Re: cleaning up old folders; .TBB .TBI files

2007-07-09 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Achdut18,

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 00:54:17 -0500GMT (9-7-2007, 7:54 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

A Hi, everyone, I am in the process of cleaning up old mail files,

Yep, sometimes that's necessary.

A and in some cases I have deleted a folder and all of its contents
A within the TB mail client; however, in Windows Explorer, I can
A still see the folder as a subdirectory within The Bat! file
A directory. Those folders contain messages.tbi and messages.tbb.

When deleting a folder TB gives you three choices what to do with the
messages inside it: Move to trash, Wipe or Leave message base files
intact.
When you go for the third option, TB will leave the matching directory
on your harddisk including the messages.tbb and .tbi files. Those
files are TB's message base. Every folder has them

A If so, is it possible to safely delete these files and the
A parent folder without causing the program to choke or be stuck?

It's safe.

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Re: Installation problems with Vista

2007-07-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Chris-

Sunday, July 8, 2007, 1:34:26 PM, you wrote:

 (You may have to confirm some of these actions.)
  1) Log in as an administrator.

...and better yet, enable the Administrator account:

open a command prompt box and type

net user Administrator /Active:yes

Of course, my preference would be to go with your original inclination
and throw it against the wall, then go back to XP. I've got a Vista
system at work that I fire up when I absolutely need to, and won't
touch it any other time.

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Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Kitty
For years, I've archived mail by placing mail in common folders that I
simply named as Archive folders.  I now have well over 700,000 emails
archived most of which I never need to look at but I don't want to
totally get rid of.  What are my options for archiving outside of TB,
but where I could easily look at the emails?

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Urban
Monday, July 9, 2007, Kitty wrote:

 What are my options for archiving outside of TB, but where I could
 easily look at the emails?

Mailbag Assistant comes to mind
http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.php

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Kitty,

on  Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:33:44 -0500GMT (09.07.2007, 17:33 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

K For years, I've archived mail by placing mail in common folders that I
K simply named as Archive folders.  I now have well over 700,000 emails
K archived most of which I never need to look at but I don't want to
K totally get rid of.  What are my options for archiving outside of TB,
K but where I could easily look at the emails?

An addition to Urban's proposal: you can even have your archive within
TB! without the need to load the extra 700,000 mails every time TB!
starts: create a new account for your archive and password-protect it.
Then the mails will only be loaded when you open that account.

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Marten Gallagher
 Monday, July 9, 2007, Kitty wrote:

 What are my options for archiving outside of TB, but where I could
 easily look at the emails?

 Mailbag Assistant comes to mind
 http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.php

Hmmm I had a look at that as a result of your reply but it doesn't seem to
do the archiving - it just looks at the emails. If I wanted to stoe them
outside TB how would I go about that?

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Re: cleaning up old folders; .TBB .TBI files

2007-07-09 Thread Chris W .

Roelof Otten @ 2007-7-09 4:55:37 AM
cleaning up old folders; .TBB  .TBI files mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If so, is it possible to safely delete these files and the parent
 folder without causing the program to choke or be stuck?
 It's safe.

But only for the folder you have already deleted. Deleting these files
in live folders will get rid of mail that you probably want to keep.

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Marten Gallagher
 Monday, July 9, 2007, Kitty wrote:

 What are my options for archiving outside of TB, but where I could
 easily look at the emails?

 Mailbag Assistant comes to mind
 http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.php

 Hmmm I had a look at that as a result of your reply but it doesn't seem to
 do the archiving - it just looks at the emails. If I wanted to stoe them
 outside TB how would I go about that?

OK - I've answered my own question:

I have a common filter set up that is manually asctivated (ALT-Z) to save
the highlighted email as an EML type file in a  directory outside TB.

I then delete ht email from TB.

The filter is:

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [CBEF8150.01C74D4D.60B628FB.7C94FEEE]
Name: Save\20as\20EML
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`\0D\0A}
ExportMessage Kludges IncrementExist FmtRFC822 filename 
C:\5CDocuments\20and\20Settings\5CMarten\5CMy\20Documents\5CLTAdmin\5CEmailArchives\5C%ODATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22-%ACCOUNTNAME-%SUBJECT.eml
 filenamerelative 
%USERPROFILE%\5CMy\20Documents\5CLTAdmin\5CEmailArchives\5C%ODATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22-%ACCOUNTNAME-%SUBJECT.eml
 template 
Archived:\20%DATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22\0D\0AFolder:\20%ACCOUNTNAME-%FOLDERNAME\0D\0ACreated:\20%ODATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22\20(%ODOW)\20%TIME\3D\22hh:nn\22\0D\0AReceived:\20%ORCVDATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22\20(%ORCVDOW)\20%ORCVTIME\3D\22hh:nn\22\0D\0AFrom:\20%OFROMADDR\20(Reply\20To:\20%OREPLYADDR)\0D\0ATo:\20%OTOADDR\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0AFrom:\20%OFROMNAME\0D\0ATo:\20%OTONAME\0D\0A\0D\0ASubject:\20%OSUBJECT\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0A%OTEXT\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0AATTACHMENTS:\0D\0A%OATTACHMENTS\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0AAll\20Original\20TO\20addressees:\0D\0A%OTOLIST\0D\0A\0D\0AAll\20Original\20CC\20Addressees:\0D\0A%OCCLIST\0D\0A\0D\0AAll\20Original\20BCC\20Addressees:\0D\0A%OBCCLIST\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0A
IsManual
IsActive
IsHotkey
IsHotkeyOnly
Ignore
endFilter

Then I use the aforementioned MessgaeBag to access and play with that
directory of old emails.

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Marten,

Monday, July 9, 2007, 6:39:45 PM, you wrote:

MG Hmmm I had a look at that as a result of your reply but it doesn't seem to
MG do the archiving - it just looks at the emails.

Oh dear! And I thought all the mail I wanted to preserve resides in Mailbag
archives. Not only the the messages received in TB! but also in Poco, OE a.o.

:-)

Seems you did not take a good look, or your definition of archiving differs
from mine...

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread ETM

 Oh dear! And I thought all the mail I wanted to
 preserve resides in Mailbag
 archives. Not only the the messages received in
 TB! but also in Poco, OE a.o.

What does that mean, does it or doesn't it work as
an archiver?



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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Mark Partous

Hello ETM,

Monday, July 9, 2007, 10:51:47 PM, you wrote:

E What does that mean, does it or doesn't it work as
E an archiver?

,--/ from the website: \
|  If you're buried alive in e-mail, let Mailbag Assistant come to the rescue
|  with tools to search, organize, analyze and archive your mountain of messages
|  ­- tools that are probably inadequate or unavailable in your mail program.
`-8---

In Mailbag Assistant, you open your TB! files, choose which messages you want
to archive, then copy them to a Mailbag (archive) file.

I think it is clear I was not using the word archiving as in compression
tools such as PK/Win/7-zip, Winrar e tutti quanti... :-)

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread ETM

 I think it is clear I was not using the word
 archiving as in compression
 tools such as PK/Win/7-zip, Winrar e tutti quanti... :-)


Can you move that archive away from TB! and use
Mailbag to open it, say, on an external hard
drive?

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Mark Partous

Hello ETM,

Monday, July 9, 2007, 11:30:42 PM, you wrote:

E Can you move that archive away from TB! and use
E Mailbag to open it, say, on an external hard
E drive?

Yes.

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread ETM

E Can you move that archive away from TB! and use
E Mailbag to open it, say, on an external hard
E drive?

 Yes.

Thanks, I will most likely buy Mailbag.  I am
awaiting delivery of a laptop with Vista, will
upgrade to current TB! on the laptop.  I am using
an older version of TB! on my PC.  I am making an
effort to be ready for the unknown when I start
moving data and moving the old very large (around
2GB) accumulation of mail to the active mail
program is not appealing.  But I still would like
to be able to easily access that old mail.

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