Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hallo Leonard, On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:56:36 -0400GMT (17-3-2013, 16:56 , where I live), you wrote: LB Even though I have a reply template for an addressee, TheBat seem to LB ignore it. For example, I receive a lot of e-mail from people with LB titles (Dr. Professor, etc.). Frequently their titles are part of LB their names that preced the email address. In the case of those LB people whom I know personally, I like to address them by their first LB names, and have a reply template to do exactly that. TheBat ignores LB the template and starts the replay e-mail with Dr., Proffessor, etc.) This is very basic. Personal address book templates taske precedence over address groups templates, the latter take precedence over folder templates and finally there are account templates. There are two reasons that existing address book templates aren't triggered: 1) the address occurs in multiple entries 2) the address with the temnplateisn't the first address inth To: HEADER -- Groetjes, Roelof Take a MODERATOR to lunch,(s)he's probably broke. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hello Leonard, Sunday, March 17, 2013, 3:56:36 PM, you wrote: The thread about deleting address history reminded me about a vexing problem that I have asked about previouly, with not progresss on my end. Even though I have a reply template for an addressee, TheBat seem to ignore it. For example, I receive a lot of e-mail from people with titles (Dr. Professor, etc.). Frequently their titles are part of their names that preced the email address. In the case of those people whom I know personally, I like to address them by their first names, and have a reply template to do exactly that. TheBat ignores the template and starts the replay e-mail with Dr., Proffessor, etc.) It was suggested in an earlier instance of this thread that possibly I have the addressee in more than one place, thus conhfusing TheBat. Although I do have a few of these cases like this, the improper salutation appears in all cases. It seems that, come what may, TheBat looks to the account templates and not the templates in the address book. Thanks. As I understand it, TheBat can use templates from the account, folder, address book group and address book contact. Have you tried a template at the individual contact level? I have at least one (for my wife!) working correctly. Cheers -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hello Tony, On Monday, March 18, 2013 you wrote: TH Hello Leonard, TH Sunday, March 17, 2013, 3:56:36 PM, you wrote: The thread about deleting address history reminded me about a vexing problem that I have asked about previouly, with not progresss on my end. -- SNIP - -- SNIP - It seems that, come what may, TheBat looks to the account templates and not the templates in the address book. Thanks. TH As I understand it, TheBat can use templates from the account, folder, TH address book group and address book contact. Have you tried a template TH at the individual contact level? I have at least one (for my wife!) TH working correctly. You've piqued my interest now as I too have fought with templates for years with limited success. If I may detail the templates in the order in which you list them: ACCOUNT: Select the account then right-click and select PROPERTIES. FOLDER: Select the correspondent's folder then right-click and select PROPERTIES AB Group: Select the AB Group then right-click and select PROPERTIES AB Contact: Select a specific AB Contact then right-click and select PROPERTIES And lastly you mention individual contact level. Is this last simply a reference to #4, the AB Contact or is there yet another level? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting address history
Hello Dwight, While this has never happened to me with Miguel, I have done it with others, and it can be embarrassing. Exactly :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.3.8.4 (BETA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hello Jack, You've piqued my interest now as I too have fought with templates for years with limited success. If I may detail the templates in the order in which you list them: ACCOUNT: Select the account then right-click and select PROPERTIES. FOLDER: Select the correspondent's folder then right-click and select PROPERTIES AB Group: Select the AB Group then right-click and select PROPERTIES AB Contact: Select a specific AB Contact then right-click and select PROPERTIES And lastly you mention individual contact level. Is this last simply a reference to #4, the AB Contact or is there yet another level? Yes, I mean AB Contact, your #4 Good luck. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.3.8.4 (BETA) embedded address book groups
Once upon a time when they were first implemented, there were directions for how to use embedded address books groups. I often want to mail all but a subset of of a group. Can someone tell me a good path to accomplish this? I simply didn't use this feature and have forgotten. Currently I just open the group from the TO: line, select the contents of the group and deselct the ones I wish to omit Thanks -- Rick The size of the government does not appear to matter much. What is important is the ‘quality of government’ (governments that produce hyperinflations, distortions in foreign exchange markets, extreme deficits, inefficient bureaucracies, etc., are governments that are detrimental to an economy). v 5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting address history
Hi On Saturday 16 March 2013 at 12:24:51 PM, in mid:169886679.20130316082...@mynormallife.com, Sam Brown wrote: That does work if you're in the double-arrow dropdown list, but it does not work on the dropdown menu that appears when you start typing in the field, which I think is what everyone is referring to when they are asking this question. I generally find the settings at options - preferences - messages - address history keep the address history list fairly well in check. The pop-up favourites list of address book entries is unobtrusive, and therefore dead easy to ignore. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at statistics! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hi On Sunday 17 March 2013 at 3:56:36 PM, in mid:9910055296.20130317115636@berkowitzls, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: It seems that, come what may, TheBat looks to the account templates and not the templates in the address book. I thought the hierarchy was address book entry templates first, address book group templates second, then folder templates, and finally account templates. In my experience up to v4.0.38, the two or three address book entry templates I have defined usually take precedence over my account templates, so long as the outgoing message has no additional addressees on the to line. Did you check for folder templates? Additional addressees? What happens if you (temporarily) delete the account reply template and then reply to one of those contacts? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Roses smell better than onions but don't make such good soup Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
I am combining my replies to several responses on this thread so that my replies will all be in one place On Monday, March 18, 2013, 3:09:39 AM, Roelof Otteb (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: This is very basic. Personal address book templates taske precedence over address groups templates, the latter take precedence over folder templates and finally there are account templates. There are two reasons that existing address book templates aren't triggered: 1) the address occurs in multiple entries Right now, the example I am using, exists in only one place, Pesonal Address Book 2) the address with the temnplateisn't the first address inth To: HEADER I think I understand what you mean. The adressee in the example I am using has only a single address in the Email Adresse(s) and it is identical with the From in the message to which I am replyng. On Monday, March 18, 2013, 8:25:49 AM, Tony Hoare(tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: As I understand it, TheBat can use templates from the account, folder, address book group and address book contact. Have you tried a template at the individual contact level? I have at least one (for my wife!) working correctly. Yes, that is what I am having a problem with. The %TOFNAME in the reply template for the _individual contact_ is ignored. On Monday, March 18, 2013, 7:27:00 PM, MFPA (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Did you check for folder templates? Additional addressees? What happens if you (temporarily) delete the account reply template and then reply to one of those contacts? I tried that. No change. Clearly the reply code in The Bat is looking at the adressee level reply template, becuase everything else that I have specified in that template appears. Only the %TOFNAME comes from incoming message, and not from the address book. I am using %TOFNAME. Is that the correct macro? I have tried various other macros that work correctly in that spot. They act correctly, but that is not the information I want in the salutation. I have also hard coded the correct first name in the reply template instead of the macro, and that appears in the reply. I receive a lot of mail from this individual. Sometime the From is acebl...@aol.com and sometimes it is Matt aceblad...@aol.com. In the former case, 'aceblade is in the salutation and in the latter, it is Matt [without the quotes of course. Very frustating. Thanks for your interest and your efforts. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Monday, March 18, 2013, 8:41:50 PM, you wrote: I am using %TOFNAME. Is that the correct macro? Probably not, if I understand what you want to do. TOFNAME will use the first name of the first entry of the TO field, and if one addressee has various ways of entering his address (so that your reply's TO field will not be consistent) then the result will not be consistent either. Have you tried ABTOFirstName instead? I've not used it, but according to the help file in my very old version of TB it ought to do what you're after... -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.2 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
