Re: External cookie file
On Friday, November 8, 2013, 5:48:08 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: You can make your own. They are delimited with a carriage return and line breaks are made with the\n combination Create a TXT file with a few that you want to use. Put it somewhere and create a path to it with the cookie macro. %COOKIE=C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt Thank you for this help. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello Chris, I see the same, which is not really telling me how a message was routed to that folder. I was expecting something that showed the filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there. Have you ever taken a look at the Account's log? If not, please do. 'Account/View log', or 'Shift+Ctrl+A' or click on bottom status bar. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.8 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: External cookie file
On Saturday, November 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: I've found that the \n for line breaks does not work across plain text and HTML, so had to stop using them. I am not quite sure what you mean by this. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello Chris, I see the same, which is not really telling me how a message was routed to that folder. I was expecting something that showed the filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there. Have you ever taken a look at the Account's log? If not, please do. 'Account/View log', or 'Shift+Ctrl+A' or click on bottom status bar. 09 November 2013 That works OK, thanks for the tip. I have looked at the log but failed to see the additional usage it could be put to. Maybe if something as elegant as Fortes implementation isn't forthcoming a mention in the help as to how the log might be used for looking at filters could be added? thanks MAU -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hi On Friday 8 November 2013 at 5:30:39 PM, in mid:1098350051.20131108113...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Hmmm. If I follow the above instructions and right-click on your message (running a later version of TB! than yours), then click Test Filters this is what I get: http://clip2net.com/s/68hktS Mine is just the seven tick-boxes and the OK, Help, Cancel buttons. And if I click OK, this is what I get: http://clip2net.com/s/68hlX5 I do have a filter that routes all incoming TB! messages to my TB! folder. Am I just not understanding what you said? Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button? In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes. The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List) That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are Close and Help buttons. For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Greater than being great is being grateful. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hi On Friday 8 November 2013 at 10:33:31 PM, in mid:1936778188.20131108223...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote: I was expecting something that showed the filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there. I maintain this would be a very useful feature, hope I haven't misunderstood the Test Filters option, but I believe it does what it's supposed to do, but I would like to see something showing the history of the copy / move in future releases That feature has existed in every TB! version I have used, from whatever v2.x I started with in 2004 up to the v4.0.38 I use now. Maybe they deliberately or accidentally removed it on a newer version. If nobody here knows, perhaps somebody on TBBeta can tell you. Or maybe RITlabs themselves. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Was time invented by an Irishman named O'Clock? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReBuild Index
Hi On Friday 8 November 2013 at 3:23:38 PM, in mid:39759703.20131108102...@newmangroup.com, Richard Newman wrote: I did that originally and it didn't work. I just tried it again and it did work. You must be my lucky charm. Thanks! Repeating the same actions and expecting different results is supposed to be a sign of madness. But when using computers, it is not at all unusual for repeated actions to sometimes throw in different outcomes. Usually when you are in a hurry and don't have time to troubleshoot or re-boot. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Don't learn safety rules by accident... Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: External cookie file
Hi On Friday 8 November 2013 at 10:10:44 PM, in mid:474869003.20131108171...@gmail.com, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: Does TheBat navigate the external cookie file sequentially or randomly? Randomly. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Nothing a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster won't cure! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: External cookie file
Hi On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 12:47:32 PM, in mid:1597983277.20131109234...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote: If memory serves me right, it was if I was using HTML format for the message, the \n would display, whereas if using plain text, the line break would show correctly. For me, always using plaintext, the \n for a line break works correctly. So I'm guessing memory serves you correctly. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com What's another word for synonym? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReBuild Index
Hello MFPA, Saturday, November 9, 2013, 9:12:55 AM, you wrote: M Repeating the same actions and expecting different results is supposed M to be a sign of madness. But when using computers, it is not at all M unusual for repeated actions to sometimes throw in different outcomes. M Usually when you are in a hurry and don't have time to troubleshoot or M re-boot. And so sad a wise man. Thank you! -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com === Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows 7 6 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello MFPA, On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote: M Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button? M In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected M messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL M folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes. Ticking the boxes as you stated: http://clip2net.com/s/68Djzd Then clicking OK gets me this: http://clip2net.com/s/68DoYt M The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed M by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the M folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also M has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the M second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for M TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List) M That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages M processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are M Close and Help buttons. As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ. The box within the box contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this message as follows: Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\TBUDL), URL: msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears M to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do M not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file M somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one. Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results. I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity. I've never used the right-click test filters option anyway. I usually use the FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old one. Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it worked. I can see however how such information might help in determining why a new or modified folder failed to work. I'll try it next time. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hi On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 4:36:25 PM, in mid:659732828.20131109103...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ. The box within the box contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this message as follows: Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\TBUDL), URL: msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL That's good, it's still there. (-; But an odd design decision to make you scroll across to see it. M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering M results box appears to make no difference. The M results of the Test Filters function do not appear M in the account log. Maybe they are written to another M file somewhere, but I have never felt the need to M look for one. Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results. It is on the screenshot you shared showing which boxes you ticked. I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity. I've never used the right-click test filters option anyway. I usually use the FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old one. Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it worked. I can see however how such information might help in determining why a new or modified folder failed to work. I'll try it next time. I find it useful if a message turns up in an unexpected folder. If the Test Filter results indicate it shouldn't have, I just re-filter. Otherwise I just move it manually, and consider whether a filter needs editing. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com No matter where you go, there you are. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Previously selected message indicator color
Hello TBUD Listers, I currently use the VIEW + WINDOW SPLIT MODE + FULL-WIDTH PREVIEW PANE display. A selected message in the upper-right panel displays in a blue color. However when I click in the bottom half panel displaying the complete message, the color of the selected message in the upper-right panel changes to a barely visible blue or gray (it's too faint to tell). Does anybody know where those colors can be changed? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello MFPA, On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote: M Hi M On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 4:36:25 PM, in M mid:659732828.20131109103...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ. The box within the box contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this message as follows: Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\TBUDL), URL: msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL M That's good, it's still there. (-; M But an odd design decision to make you scroll across to see it. Agreed, however, there may be a setting somewhere within the bowels of TB! which govern that. M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering M results box appears to make no difference. The M results of the Test Filters function do not appear M in the account log. Maybe they are written to another M file somewhere, but I have never felt the need to M look for one. Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results. M It is on the screenshot you shared showing which boxes you ticked. Ah! Grayed out therefore ignored by my visual cortex. Since you were able to actually tick or un-tick that box, yours must not be grayed out. No combination of ticked and un-ticked boxes would un-gray that option for me. I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity. I've never used the right-click test filters option anyway. I usually use the FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old one. Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it worked. I can see however how such information might help in determining why a new or modified folder failed to work. I'll try it next time. M I find it useful if a message turns up in an unexpected folder. If the M Test Filter results indicate it shouldn't have, I just re-filter. M Otherwise I just move it manually, and consider whether a filter needs M editing. The only times I can recall having a message land in the wrong folder is when the sender changed something, which had been static, upon which I had been filtering. An examination of the filter and the errant message usually reveals the problem. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello MFPA, On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote: M Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button? M In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected M messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL M folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes. Ticking the boxes as you stated: http://clip2net.com/s/68Djzd Then clicking OK gets me this: http://clip2net.com/s/68DoYt M The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed M by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the M folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also M has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the M second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for M TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List) M That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages M processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are M Close and Help buttons. As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ. The box within the box contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this message as follows: Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\TBUDL), URL: msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears M to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do M not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file M somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one. Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results. I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity. I've never used the right-click test filters option anyway. I usually use the FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old one. Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it worked. I can see however how such information might help in determining why a new or modified folder failed to work. I'll try it next time. 09 November 2013 I wasn't aware of the window behind the first one. The second window is there and does indeed do what I was hoping for, thanks for pointing out where I was going wrong. -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Previously selected message indicator color
Hello Jack, On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 11:50:07 -0600 GMT (10-Nov-13, 00:50 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I currently use the VIEW + WINDOW SPLIT MODE + FULL-WIDTH PREVIEW PANE display. A selected message in the upper-right panel displays in a blue color. However when I click in the bottom half panel displaying the complete message, the color of the selected message in the upper-right panel changes to a barely visible blue or gray (it's too faint to tell). Does anybody know where those colors can be changed? Actually, the colour shouldn't change. As long as the message is unread, it is on bold face, and that changes to normal once it is opened. I haven't played with colours in v5 yet, but will test it soon. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8.8 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: External cookie file
For me, always using plaintext, the \n for a line break works correctly. So I'm guessing memory serves you correctly. Same here - never had a problem with it. although I HAVE use /n and had unexpected but correct results :))) Make sure you are using notepad to create the text file. If you are using something else you might want to see what code page it is saving in. I don't know that it matters with the cookie file, but with BATCH files if you save them in UTF-8 they will not run, they must be saved as DOS text. I use a notepad replacement where that can be an issue -- Rick Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. President Dwight D. Eisenhower April 16, 1953 v5.8.8 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Previously selected message indicator color
Hello Thomas, On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote: TF Hello Jack, TF On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 11:50:07 -0600 GMT (10-Nov-13, 00:50 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I currently use the VIEW + WINDOW SPLIT MODE + FULL-WIDTH PREVIEW PANE display. A selected message in the upper-right panel displays in a blue color. However when I click in the bottom half panel displaying the complete message, the color of the selected message in the upper-right panel changes to a barely visible blue or gray (it's too faint to tell). Does anybody know where those colors can be changed? TF Actually, the colour shouldn't change. As long as the message is TF unread, it is on bold face, and that changes to normal once it is TF opened. TF I haven't played with colours in v5 yet, but will test it soon. The selected message in the upper right pane consists only of SUBJECT, FROM, TO, RECEIVED etc., not the entire message and it's not the actual text color to which I'm referring (which is black, bold if unread) but the transparent background color shading the entire line. Sorry for the confusion. I was prompted to try and find it myself and it seems I was successful. It's in OPTIONS + PREFERENCES + MESSAGE LIST + COLOR GROUPS. Duh! Since I've never created a color group of my own, the only one available for me to EDIT is GENERIC GROUP. It's not particularly easy to understand because of the names chosen to represent different things in your display but if you play around with it, eventually you'll get something usable. Which I did. Don't overlook the tabs in the middle of the EDIT COLOR GROUP box. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Previously selected message indicator color
Hello Jack, On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 14:29:27 -0600 GMT (10-Nov-13, 03:29 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: TF Actually, the colour shouldn't change. As long as the message is TF unread, it is on bold face, and that changes to normal once it is TF opened. The selected message in the upper right pane consists only of SUBJECT, FROM, TO, RECEIVED etc., not the entire message and it's not the actual text color to which I'm referring (which is black, bold if unread) but the transparent background color shading the entire line. Sorry for the confusion. No worries: I understood you correctly and was referring to the same line in the message list. I was prompted to try and find it myself and it seems I was successful. It's in OPTIONS + PREFERENCES + MESSAGE LIST + COLOR GROUPS. Duh! Since I've never created a color group of my own, the only one available for me to EDIT is GENERIC GROUP. It's not particularly easy to understand because of the names chosen to represent different things in your display but if you play around with it, eventually you'll get something usable. Which I did. Don't overlook the tabs in the middle of the EDIT COLOR GROUP box. You are right! I handn't checked before sending my mail and last time I used colour groups, there weren't so many options IIRC. Personally, I don't think I need all these options as I am perfectly happy with the bold/unbold toggle for unread/read, but other people might like it. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8.8 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Previously selected message indicator color
Does anybody know where those colors can be changed? Isn't that controlled by the Windows colors for selected and unselected text in Control Panel? (And not from a The Bat setting.) Right click on the Desktop, select Properties or Personalize (etc., depending on your Windows version, look for Colors (etc.)... Fred Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: External cookie file
On Saturday, November 9, 2013, 7:47:32 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: If memory serves me right, it was if I was using HTML format for the message, the \n would display, whereas if using plain text, the line break would show correctly. OK. I get it. It would not be my problem as I do not use HTML. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: External cookie file
On Saturday, November 9, 2013, 9:21:13 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Does TheBat navigate the external cookie file sequentially or randomly? Randomly. Thanks, Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Previously selected message indicator color
Hello Fred, On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote: Does anybody know where those colors can be changed? F Isn't that controlled by the Windows colors for selected and unselected F text in Control Panel? (And not from a The Bat setting.) Right click on the F Desktop, select Properties or Personalize (etc., depending on your F Windows version, look for Colors (etc.)... I don't think so but I've never tried that. I was able to change the colors I wanted to change from within TB as described in a previous post. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
