Re: Lost draft
On 11/20/2013 you wrote: Right you are. I just tested a couple of POP accounts, and they do save there. IMAP strikes again ... and just when I thought it was finally working! lol! So is it a general IMAP issue, or just an IMAP issue with TB!? I don't know - as much as I hate to say it, ThunderBird seems to handle IMAP correctly, I just don't find TB usable. Load it up and go and have lunch or something; it'll take that long to dl POP, and IMAP takes much longer. Yes, I dl it all. TB!'s IMAP module has always been a bit cranky, and my plan on reverting to WinDoze and upgrading toTB! 5.8x was to convert that IMAP account to POP. I was pleasantly surprised to find it seemed to be working fast and smoothly, delighted, in fact, until the whole mailer seemed to blow up. If I thought the IMAP account was the cause of the problem, I'd figure out how to convert it, but the problems seem to span all the accounts and I hadn't thought of it in those terms. I'm open to suggestions, thoughts, ideas ... the prospect of chasing another mailer is not attractive to me; I've been using TB! since v 1.3 ..? Yeah, pretty sure it was an upgrade to 1.6, which I ran for quite a while. I've used most of the other available clients at one time or another, and have not been impressed. There are no usable email clients for Linux at all ... I ran TB! in WinE for the three years I ran Linux. I nearly sold you to my brother, a mainframer who remains unimpressed with desktop systems; his vice would be Amiga, if there was better support. It seems Amiga has a useful email client, but I've not been able yet to get him to port it to WinDoze! lol! Well, one day at a time. Will keep at it for a bit, but it's looking bad. I'm losing correspondence, I'm pretty sure, and all my correspondence isn't getting out. Very discouraging. Cheers! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
On 11/20/2013 you wrote: I have TB! automatically compact most folders on exit. It had not occurred to me that *moving( a message from one folder to another was effectively a copy and a delete (unlike moving files in Windows from one folder to another, which is just a re-mapping of the info already stored on disk to a new filesystem location). I had never thought about it. I do that too ... but maybe we need to turn that off, til either the behaviour reverts to the expected, or new functional behaviour is instituted. Some lost mails are worse than a nuisance :-( Cheers! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
Hello TheLimit,
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 you wrote:
T On 11/20/2013 you wrote:
T I do that too ... but maybe we need to turn that off, til either
T the behaviour reverts to the expected, or new functional
T behaviour is instituted.
T Some lost mails are worse than a nuisance :-(
T Cheers!
Lynn,
I'm pretty sure I remember seeing some time ago a discussion
regarding your Rogue photo not displaying. I don't remember
what the suggestions were then but mine works as it should
and it's because (I think) I have this line in my TB *NEW*
and *REPLY* templates: %SetHeader('X-Rogue',':Deuxdad:')%-.
Having your handle (:Hawthorne:) in your sig I don't think
will work. You would of course replace :Deuxdad: with
:Hawthorne:. Worth a shot.
My apologies if this is no longer an issue with you.
--
Best Regards,
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama
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Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hello Rick, On Thursday, November 21, 2013 you wrote: R I think Roguemoticons are dead for all practical purposes. I wouldn't blame R Ritlabs if they removed it - no sense in releasing a program with a program R feature that CANNOT be fixed. I don't know that it CANNOT be fixed unless it's the Obamacare website. In my case key folders got relocated without my knowledge. Thanks to Miguel and MFPA I knew *what* to look for and where they were supposed to be. Once I found them (elsewhere in the TB *program* folder) and put them back where they belonged, everything worked again. I remember when this happened to me last time it was solved because I finally realized that my Rogue's folder was buried in the *parent* Rogues folder. The Bat didn't know to look any deeper than the parent Rogue's folder for the images. R They could easily take pictures out of the address book and put them in the R same place (which it does but I am getting black spaces in v6) Surely you don't have every Rogue's address and picture in your address book. I've never tried that and so can't imagine why you're getting black spaces where the photo should be. I can only assume that to give TB the versatility that it has then it has to be as convoluted as it is unfortunately. Speaking of convoluted, I just noticed that if I save a draft or save the final message, if I re-open it to continue editing, it has defaulted to HTML instead of the Plain Text in which it was originally written. If I don't catch it, the message never gets sent to the list because it's HTML. Most annoying. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi Rick On Thursday 21 November 2013 at 6:54:26 PM, you wrote: I think Roguemoticons are dead for all practical purposes. They certainly have a limited and not-increasing userbase (of about 150). But that is partly down to not being publicised, as well as being unsupported by any other mailer or newsreader (as far as I know). I wouldn't blame Ritlabs if they removed it Supporting something like the Face header [1][2] would perhaps make more sense, as it is not limited to one piece of software that supports it. - no sense in releasing a program with a program feature that CANNOT be fixed. Rogues probably could be fixed, if the feature was broken. But I've not heard anybody claim it was. They could easily take pictures out of the address book and put them in the same place (which it does but I am getting black spaces in v6) If you mean display the photo from the addressbook entry (if present) in the same place as the rogue photo, I'm fairly sure that worked when I started using TB! at v2 - and you can select which takes precedence. I would also like the option to display there the photo from an OpenPGP key (if the incoming message was signed using an OpenPGP key that contains a photo). [1] http://quimby.gnus.org/circus/face/ [2] http://www.manitou-mail.org/blog/2009/10/face-header-support/ -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Look, it's a hat! It's not going to hurt you. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost draft
Hi
On Thursday 21 November 2013 at 11:17:15 PM, in
mid:1358074437.20131121171...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:
mine works as it should and it's because (I think) I
have this line in my TB *NEW* and *REPLY* templates:
%SetHeader('X-Rogue',':Deuxdad:')%-.
Correct.
Having your handle
(:Hawthorne:) in your sig I don't think will work.
Correct again.
--
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MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com
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Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hello MFPA, On Thursday, November 21, 2013 you wrote: M Hi M On Wednesday 20 November 2013 at 1:20:38 AM, in M mid:93269535.20131119192...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: So, once again my profound thanks to you and Miguel for all the help. Nice to see you both again. M Glad to help. M Did you ever follow up on updating your Rogues photo, which you M mentioned in May last year? I had another Someone new has joined or M updated their image on Roguemoticons email today (which makes five in M 18 months) saying you had joined or updated, but the zip file still M contains the same photo of you. Exactly. It still doesn't work. I emailed Leif back in May and he replied thusly: I'll take a look at it. I wrote that code eons ago and its been static through numerous server upgrades and migrations. I copied that same email from Leif and emailed it to him yesterday and he replied again: I'll look at it. It's been through a couple server moves and I probably missed a dependency with it. So, I dunno. Have to wait and see I guess. I too have notifications of new rogue photos ticked and I can't remember the last time I got one except for my own yesterday. Have they fallen out of favor I wonder? I also sent Mary Bull a gif of the Alabama state flag for approval and I'm waiting to hear from her. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
M Did you ever follow up on updating your Rogues photo, which you M mentioned in May last year? I had another Someone new has joined or M updated their image on Roguemoticons email today (which makes five in M 18 months) saying you had joined or updated, but the zip file still M contains the same photo of you. I think Roguemoticons are dead for all practical purposes. I wouldn't blame Ritlabs if they removed it - no sense in releasing a program with a program feature that CANNOT be fixed. They could easily take pictures out of the address book and put them in the same place (which it does but I am getting black spaces in v6) -- Rick Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration Abraham Lincoln - 1st Inaugural Address v6.0.4.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam spider
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013, 10:12:21 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Antispam SNIPER? If that is the case open it up from the toolbar, go to options and clear the database and let it start learning again So I did that. Two new e-mail messages from the same list about which I wrote earlier, appeared today in junk. Maybe that is an improvement grin, but it is unnecessary and annoying. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
On 11/19/2013 you wrote: Neither the text file pcwsmileys.msl nor the folder pcwimages exist anywhere on my computer. CANCEL RED ALERT! File/folder found! I have a program called SEARCH EVERYTHING (http://www.voidtools.com/) which will find anything you type in it's search bar (I thought). Using that program showed me that the two files above didn't exist, but of course, they did. I don't know why the program failed to find them but they were buried where they shouldn't have been within The Bat! AHA! You may have provided a key to my troubles. I ran these searches just now - I don't have your utility, but I didfind a club big enough to force WinDoze to search subfolders. No joy. WinDoze is quite certain those files don't exist anywhere in the file structure. I'm not altogether convinced, but I'm not sure how much more time I can give this thing. Now I'm wondering whether the fact that TB! is installed to my work drive, not to c:\windows\programfilesx86 might be the problem. I've been running it off the work partition for at least several releases, so it didn't occur to me that that could be causing issues. If so, I'm thinking it might be better to reinstall to the conventional folder. Otherwise, it looks like I'm going to have to abandon TB!, because it really has become unusable here, with no filters and no view pane. I have to load every mail just to id it - lots of list mail, and it takes as long to load a 'me too' message as an informative one. It's also decided not to bother with sig files, except in this isp account. Not mission critical, but more time wasted pasting them in manually. Or, I might load Voyager to a 16G thumb drive ... I do have the dl, but I haven't found the list messages very encouraging, so I haven't done anything with it. Getting pretty desperate ... but I'm not willing to give up the computer yet. But you know ... email is key! Cheers! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 1 IMAP, 7 POP accounts Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi On Thursday 21 November 2013 at 5:37:04 PM, in mid:1325241372.20131121113...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I too have notifications of new rogue photos ticked and I can't remember the last time I got one except for my own yesterday. Yours on 18/05/2013, 05/06/2012, 28/05/2012, 27/05/2012 Rick Grunwald on 27/05/2012 Jens Franik on 16/12/2010 Dierk Haasis on 16/12/2010 Patrick Linskey on 21/07/2010 Spike Jones on 29/04/2010 Spike's and Dierk's photos are present in the rogues.zip download and their handles are present in the rogues.msl file. Jen's handle is in the .msl file but no photo present. Patrick and Rick absent on both counts. Have they fallen out of favor I wonder? When was the last time you saw anybody promote them? I also sent Mary Bull a gif of the Alabama state flag for approval and I'm waiting to hear from her. I've not seen any postings from Mary in a long time. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com The problem is not that we're paranoid; it's that we're not paranoid enough. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
