Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Hello MFPA, Very good, on a pade visited by people whose email service has been disrupted due to somebody else using an ill-conceived and poorly-configured anti-spam solution. That is the problem. Blacklist may use whatever criteria they wish, the problem is that some sysadmins may decide to reject email based on what one or another blacklist tell them. That is the problem with the server hosting tbudl. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.4 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Hello Thomas, Hm. Which POP client would have downloaded your message before you check your TBUDL account? None in my case. I'm just illustrating what recent stands for. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.4 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Hello Thomas, Now that I have this working, could someone now explain a little theory behind the addition of recent. Some non-English-speaking immigrant working at Gmail chose this word. It should have been own: or self:. I wish there was an option for own or self. Recent stands for recent, as you can see here: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/47948?hl=en -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.4 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Hi On Saturday 7 September 2013 at 10:28:36 AM, in mid:525587079.20130907112...@gmail.com, MAU wrote: Hel I wish there was an option for own or self. Recent stands for recent, as you can see here: If I recall correctly, Gmail only exhibits this bug if your outgoing mail goes through their server. Sending through a different SMTP server (like your ISP's, or direct from your own PC, or using one of the other free services available) makes it work properly: if Google didn't record your message-id on the way out, they can't use it to censor your message when it comes back in. I also just did a quick spot of searching on Google's self-help forum and the recurring theme is that they do not provide a setting to turn off this bug. They mention filters and labels, but I don't recall those working for their POP server, just their web interface. And even if it worked, you would get a copy of your sent message, not the incoming one via the group with the added headers. Not sure if CC or BBC to yourself would work, or whether google would censor that incoming copy as well. Or you could subscribe to the list with two different addresses, using one to send and the other to receive. On that note, any idea if the @thebat.net email joint offering by Ritlabs and google is still around? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Hello MAU, On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 11:28:36 +0200 GMT (07-Sep-13, 16:28 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Now that I have this working, could someone now explain a little theory behind the addition of recent. Some non-English-speaking immigrant working at Gmail chose this word. It should have been own: or self:. I wish there was an option for own or self. Recent stands for recent, as you can see here: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/47948?hl=en Hm. Which POP client would have downloaded your message before you check your TBUDL account? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
On Thursday, September 5, 2013, 11:41:26 AM, Thomas Fernandez (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: I hope to have shed some light. Yes, you and Jack both have. Thanks, Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
On Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 7:23:29 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Accouint / Properties / Transport / Receive Mail / User: Instead of usern...@gmail.com use recent:usern...@gmail.com Thanks, Thomas. That worked. Someone, perhaps you, suggested something like this a while back, but I did not understand where to add recent, Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
On Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 8:42:14 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Just make sure you have gone out to the web and cleared what you don't want as once you do that it ALL comes. That is from experience. When I did that a long time ago i didn't check first :)) I three caution to the winds, but only three of my own recent postings came through. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
On Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 7:23:29 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Accouint / Properties / Transport / Receive Mail / User: Instead of usern...@gmail.com use recent:usern...@gmail.com Now that I have this working, could someone now explain a little theory behind the addition of recent. In addition to the basic account in TheBat, where I receive almost all of my mail, I have a secondary account for Gmail. (I created it a while back because I was having a problem on TBUDL.) I subscribe to four lists on the main account. There is no recent in the account properties, yet I have had no problem seeing my onw postings. The only problem was in the sub-account for Gmail. I hate having things work without knowing why they work. Thanks, Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Now that I have this working, could someone now explain a little theory behind the addition of recent. Why they use that word/ Who knows, but what it does is bring back your sent messages. Google doesn't default to this since you sent it, you probably don't want to see it again. (don't shoot the messenger for that one) :)) -- Rick World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings. Denis Winston Healey, Baron Healey CH, MBE, PC, British Labour politician v5.4.2.0 (ALPHA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Hello Leonard, On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 04:44:45 -0400 GMT (05-Sep-13, 15:44 +0700 GMT), Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: On Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 7:23:29 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Accouint / Properties / Transport / Receive Mail / User: Instead of usern...@gmail.com use recent:usern...@gmail.com Thanks, Thomas. That worked. Someone, perhaps you, suggested something like this a while back, but I did not understand where to add recent, I don't think I suggested it at the time, because I learned this little trick over here. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Hello Leonard, On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 05:03:29 -0400 GMT (05-Sep-13, 16:03 +0700 GMT), Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: Accouint / Properties / Transport / Receive Mail / User: Instead of usern...@gmail.com use recent:usern...@gmail.com Now that I have this working, could someone now explain a little theory behind the addition of recent. Some non-English-speaking immigrant working at Gmail chose this word. It should have been own: or self:. The reason is that Google - as the only POP provider in the world - assumes that you don't want to receive mails that you have sent. A logic I fail to understand, but luckily, this misnomed function fixes their user friendliness. In addition to the basic account in TheBat, where I receive almost all of my mail, I have a secondary account for Gmail. (I created it a while back because I was having a problem on TBUDL.) I subscribe to four lists on the main account. There is no recent in the account properties, yet I have had no problem seeing my onw postings. The only problem was in the sub-account for Gmail. Yes, only Gmail is so user friendly that you have to scratch your head in disbelief. I hate having things work without knowing why they work. I hope to have shed some light. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see your own post (Gmail problem) (was: Unacceptable wrapping result)
Accouint / Properties / Transport / Receive Mail / User: Instead of usern...@gmail.com use recent:usern...@gmail.com Just make sure you have gone out to the web and cleared what you don't want as once you do that it ALL comes. That is from experience. When I did that a long time ago i didn't check first :)) -- Rick Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac, and The elderly are useless eaters Dr. Henry Kissinger v5.4.2.0 (ALPHA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
