Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
Thursday, October 6, 2022, 2:30:19 PM, you wrote: Sunday, July 3, 2022, 3:32:45 PM, you wrote: Hi Chris, I finally got around to doing this and I am happy to report a successful outcome. All these older messages are now combined in subfolders under Archive XXX and having this Account stored on a separate drive, does indeed reduce the size used for my main OS and any twice-weekly backups. The size for the TBK complete backup file has reduced from 16.2 gb to 5.8 gb. The benefit of the password protection of the account compared to my original idea of just moving the actual folders somewhere else is that I can now still open the archive easily and check on something if necessary. Based on my experience that the minute you clear out something, you will need it, this is quite a nice benefit. The only drawback I found was that moving messages was a bit more involved than using cut/paste of some folders. Thanks Chris and Thomas for the suggestion. Cheers Tom- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP just an update - since I archived my emails I had to check on something archived and it worked fine. However today I am unable to find the "account" that his now holding these emails? The database is still in its location on my external drive but the easy way to check an email is not possible if I cannot find the account. Any idea why this is now hidden and how to look for it - any trick to "unhide this" without having to create a new account and then link the storage to the archive I previously created? and one more update - not sure why but after restarting TB the Account Archive is shown again and I am able to open my emails with password again. I would normally assume it was there all the time and I was not looking properly but I did check several times very slowly and in particular at the bottom of my Accounts tree. That's where I "parked" this account and it was not showing earlier today. -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on Win 10 64 bit Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
Sunday, July 3, 2022, 3:32:45 PM, you wrote: Hi Chris, I finally got around to doing this and I am happy to report a successful outcome. All these older messages are now combined in subfolders under Archive XXX and having this Account stored on a separate drive, does indeed reduce the size used for my main OS and any twice-weekly backups. The size for the TBK complete backup file has reduced from 16.2 gb to 5.8 gb. The benefit of the password protection of the account compared to my original idea of just moving the actual folders somewhere else is that I can now still open the archive easily and check on something if necessary. Based on my experience that the minute you clear out something, you will need it, this is quite a nice benefit. The only drawback I found was that moving messages was a bit more involved than using cut/paste of some folders. Thanks Chris and Thomas for the suggestion. Cheers Tom- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP just an update - since I archived my emails I had to check on something archived and it worked fine. However today I am unable to find the "account" that his now holding these emails? The database is still in its location on my external drive but the easy way to check an email is not possible if I cannot find the account. Any idea why this is now hidden and how to look for it - any trick to "unhide this" without having to create a new account and then link the storage to the archive I previously created? -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
T>> So, you guys never felt the need for this ? With 152 gb I would expect TB to be quite slow to open and having proper backups to be a pain? > I am getting old and forgetful. It suddenly occurred to me that I > had once asked a similar question here, and as I have kept all > messages from starting to use TB! I found it for you. See below, > Thomas Fernandez answered and although based on an earlier TB! > version his response should still be applicable, I would have thought. > @@@ > On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 15:20:04 +0100 GMT (27-Apr-19, 20:50 +0700 GMT), > Chris Wilson wrote: >> I am happily running a legacy version of TB! but my message base is >> now huge. I was wondering if it is possible to somehow split the >> message base based on date so I keep say the last two year's messages >> in TB!' directory structure, and store older stuff elsewhere, perhaps >> on tape or DVD? Thanks > What I do is I "archive" old messages to other folders. For example, I > name a subfolder "2016" and then move all messages from that year into > that subfolder. This keep each folder with a manageable size. (Make > sure you compact the folders in which the messages were stored > previously.) > If you want to store those messages somewhere else, you create a dummy > account called "Archive". Under Account / Properties / Files & > Directories, you to an external drive or a drive in the cloud (nobody > uses tape or DVD any more). This way, you don't need to keep them on > your computer's hard disk. > -- > Cheers, > Thomas. > @ Hi Chris, I finally got around to doing this and I am happy to report a successful outcome. All these older messages are now combined in subfolders under Archive XXX and having this Account stored on a separate drive, does indeed reduce the size used for my main OS and any twice-weekly backups. The size for the TBK complete backup file has reduced from 16.2 gb to 5.8 gb. The benefit of the password protection of the account compared to my original idea of just moving the actual folders somewhere else is that I can now still open the archive easily and check on something if necessary. Based on my experience that the minute you clear out something, you will need it, this is quite a nice benefit. The only drawback I found was that moving messages was a bit more involved than using cut/paste of some folders. Thanks Chris and Thomas for the suggestion. Cheers Tom -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
On Saturday, June 25, 2022, 14:07:36, Tom wrote: > So, you guys never felt the need for this ? With 152 gb I would expect TB to > be quite slow to open and having proper backups to be a pain? Used to be that TB was a bit slow (=5 seconds) to open folders with more than ~9000 messages, but this hasn't been the case in a while (despite me keeping the message base on spinning rust, not SSD). As for why I keep all of it? Because it's less work than not keeping it. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys. -- Van Roy's Law Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
Saturday, June 25, 2022, 6:33:05 PM, you wrote: > On Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:25:45, Chris Wilson wrote: >> Watching with interest 40 + GB of mail and attachments here, which stored in >> the current database is ridiculous > 152 GB here… So, you guys never felt the need for this ? With 152 gb I would expect TB to be quite slow to open and having proper backups to be a pain? -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
On Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:25:45, Chris Wilson wrote: > Watching with interest 40 + GB of mail and attachments here, which stored in > the current database is ridiculous 152 GB here… -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Any fool can make a rule, and every fool will mind it. -- Thoreau's Rule Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
Hello Tom, On Saturday, June 25, 2022, you wrote: T> Hello Everyone, T> my TB has grown over the years and the backup files are now more than T> gb in size. T> I would like to tidy up a bit without messing up everything. T> My idea is to create new Archive folders and then moving older emails into these archive folders. T> Can I then remove these completely to a different harddrive/backup storage in case I ever need them again? T> Currently my mail directory is at on my OS drive at %APPDATA%\The Bat!\ Watching with interest 40 + GB of mail and attachments here, which stored in the current database is ridiculous -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v10.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
