Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
On 2014-03-06 Thu 15:42 PM |, Stuart Henderson wrote: Personally I'd keep them for releases (which also gives people a base to speed up updates to -current) but probably drop them for snapshots.. Sensible logic;- reducing workload, network electricity costs!
missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
Hi tech, is there a reason, why there is no ports.tar.gz in the latest snapshot folder? fritjof
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
is there a reason, why there is no ports.tar.gz in the latest snapshot folder? At present, it is not being built in the ftp area any more. I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it.
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014, at 08:56 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: is there a reason, why there is no ports.tar.gz in the latest snapshot folder? At present, it is not being built in the ftp area any more. I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. I don't use the ports tree at all anymore. That said, I would trust the empirical evidence (FTP logs) more than any on-list answers you might get. -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
Quoting Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: is there a reason, why there is no ports.tar.gz in the latest snapshot folder? At present, it is not being built in the ftp area any more. I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. Hi Theo, Sometimes, when a dependency package is missing in snapshots or when the package itself does not work; I have used ports.tar.gz to build the package and test it. This has helped me with testing openldap. qemu, and horde. I suppose this could also be done with cvsync etc., so this is not a request to have ports.tar.gz; but it has been useful. Thanks, Vijay Vijay Sankar, M.Eng., P.Eng. ForeTell Technologies Limited vsan...@foretell.ca - This message was sent using ForeTell-POST 4.9
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
On Mar 6, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Vijay Sankar vsan...@foretell.ca wrote: Quoting Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: is there a reason, why there is no ports.tar.gz in the latest snapshot folder? At present, it is not being built in the ftp area any more. I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. Are all the ports in the packages in snapshots? I seem to remember needing to build some of the things I use to test, but maybe that has changed. I use snapshots when I have time to test, so whatever direction you want to give as far as testing goes, just let us know. devin
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
Quoting Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: is there a reason, why there is no ports.tar.gz in the latest snapshot folder? At present, it is not being built in the ftp area any more. I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. I thought the packages are being build from the ports tree or am I wrong? Hi Theo, Sometimes, when a dependency package is missing in snapshots or when the package itself does not work; I have used ports.tar.gz to build the package and test it. This has helped me with testing openldap. qemu, and horde. I suppose this could also be done with cvsync etc., so this is not a request to have ports.tar.gz; but it has been useful. Thanks, Vijay Vijay Sankar, M.Eng., P.Eng. ForeTell Technologies Limited vsan...@foretell.ca - This message was sent using ForeTell-POST 4.9
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:18:38PM +, Devin Ceartas wrote: On Mar 6, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Vijay Sankar vsan...@foretell.ca wrote: Quoting Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: is there a reason, why there is no ports.tar.gz in the latest snapshot folder? At present, it is not being built in the ftp area any more. I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. Are all the ports in the packages in snapshots? I seem to remember needing to build some of the things I use to test, but maybe that has changed. I use snapshots when I have time to test, so whatever direction you want to give as far as testing goes, just let us know. devin No, not all ports can be distributed as packages due to license restrictions. -- James Turner
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. I thought the packages are being build from the ports tree or am I wrong? Sigh. So I can make a tar file available. At a particular moment in time. But the package builts are not done in an instant; far from that, especially on slower machines. So read what I said again. They're not in sync.
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
Are all the ports in the packages in snapshots? The best way to get source code from our project is not in tar files, but using the repository-access methods described on the web site and in the FAQ. Then it is easier to move your tree forward in time, rather than downloading files this big, every time. -rw-r--r-- 1 deraadt wheel 21.8M Mar 5 13:14 ports.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 deraadt wheel 160M Mar 5 09:46 src.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 deraadt wheel 110M Mar 5 09:46 xenocara.tar.gz
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
On Mar 6, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: Are all the ports in the packages in snapshots? The best way to get source code from our project is not in tar files, but using the repository-access methods described on the web site and in the FAQ. Then it is easier to move your tree forward in time, rather than downloading files this big, every time. -rw-r--r-- 1 deraadt wheel 21.8M Mar 5 13:14 ports.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 deraadt wheel 160M Mar 5 09:46 src.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 deraadt wheel 110M Mar 5 09:46 xenocara.tar.gz OK, sure, cvs update the ports tree. That works for me. Now that I think about it, I'm sure that's what I've done at least some of the time. No problem.
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. I thought the packages are being build from the ports tree or am I wrong? Sigh. So I can make a tar file available. At a particular moment in time. But the package builts are not done in an instant; far from that, especially on slower machines. So read what I said again. They're not in sync. Ahh, I see. Thank you for the explanation.
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
On 2014/03/06 08:32, Theo de Raadt wrote: I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. I thought the packages are being build from the ports tree or am I wrong? Sigh. So I can make a tar file available. At a particular moment in time. But the package builts are not done in an instant; far from that, especially on slower machines. So read what I said again. They're not in sync. I think the main use for the tar files is for people who are behind a restrictive firewall that they can't ssh through to use anoncvs (though there are anoncvs servers which run on alternative ports which is often good enough to get around this). They might also be a bit quicker to fetch in bulk than a cvs checkout, which doesn't stream particularly well over slow net for lots of small files. Personally I'd keep them for releases (which also gives people a base to speed up updates to -current) but probably drop them for snapshots..
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
Personally I'd keep them for releases (which also gives people a base to speed up updates to -current) but probably drop them for snapshots.. In the next few hours, the file will be there. (Can one of you select yourself to help care watch this file, and talk just to me about it? I'm changing some stuff as to how it gets updated)
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:18:38PM +, Devin Ceartas wrote: Are all the ports in the packages in snapshots? I seem to remember needing to build some of the things I use to test, but maybe that has changed. There are a few ports not in snapshots, stuff that is not authorized for ftp redistribution. Accidents happen. Sometimes, stuff does not build. That's more frequent on less used architectures. Most builds on amd64 give 100%. All packages referenced in the ports tree that should be on amd64 do build.
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, Theo de Raadt wrote: I'd like to ask. Does anyone find it useful? It is not in sync with the packages beside it. I thought the packages are being build from the ports tree or am I wrong? Sigh. So I can make a tar file available. At a particular moment in time. But the package builts are not done in an instant; far from that, especially on slower machines. So read what I said again. They're not in sync. But they are in sync for a release. Or the ports.tar.gz file won't be a part of a release anymore? Regards, David
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
So read what I said again. They're not in sync. But they are in sync for a release. Or the ports.tar.gz file won't be a part of a release anymore? Yes, they are in sync for a release. But the Subject says snapshot.
Re: missing ports.tar.gz in snapshot
previously on this list Shawn K. Quinn contributed: Makes very little difference to me. I don't use the ports tree at all anymore. That said, I would trust the empirical evidence (FTP logs) more than any on-list answers you might get. Is there a pkg* tools equivalent to print-run-depends? -- ___ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd ___
