Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Accessible Services For All; Or Not?

2017-11-09 Thread Joshua Gregory 
Serious question. How do you guys do it? That's... damn.

On 11/9/17, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> I think you’re looking at this from the sole perspective of the US consumer.
> Believe it or not, there is intelligent life beyond the Atlantic and Pacific
> Ocean base. ;-)
>
> In other countries, such agencies simply don’t exist. Blind and other
> disabled people over here, for instance, can only get aid if they require it
> for their professional lives. The rest are left to either come up with the
> dosh themselves, or do without! And that is a strong argument in favour of
> main stream technologies.
>
> After all, as Dane quite rightly points out, one can simply pay something
> like $50.00 U.S, and there you are with a more than usable device. Even with
> the smallest Google Home or Amazon Echo Dot, you can get hundreds of hours
> of pleasure from listening to audio content both locally and on the
> Internet.
>
> 
>
> My compliments and kindest regards
> Gordon Smith:
> 
> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist..
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> On 9 Nov 2017, at 02:20, The wolf  wrote:
>
> as long as the voc rehab agencies continue too purchase these devices there
> are going to be priced really high
>
> pritty much 99.9 percent of blind people don't even make a income to
> aford these high end devices myself included
>
> 700.00 a month is my total income 581 of that money pays the rent
>
> the rest has to cover everything utilities food for my guide dog the basic
> needs
>
> thank god fore food stamps.
>
> so the voc rehab agencies are getting them fore the clients
> when all the funding dries up from the agencies it is going to  be really
> interesting to see what companies end up by going out of business.
> I understand that this is a nitch market
> but these AT companies can only do this fore so long
> On 11/8/2017 7:11 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Its tipical Humanware though really isn't it? Late to the party yet
>> again.
>>
>> There is a segment of the population that can't access an IOS or Android
>> device so perhaps Humanware's device may be useful for those people.
>>
>> What's the betting too that this device is using out of date hardware?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/2017 5:47 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>>> Hello everybody
>>>
>>> Sadly, HumanWare has put their device beyond the reach of many, yet
>>> again. And not only that, but they’ve made it an untenable product, in my
>>> view. Everything it does, you can do via iOS and Android. That includes
>>> playing talking books and, I’m pretty sure, DAISY content.
>>>
>>> Given that the main stream devices have so much more to offer than simply
>>> being a book player and a GPS navigator, I don’t really think they’re on
>>> to a winner this time.
>>>
>>> Sure, the functionality is easy to use, and accessible. But then again,
>>> most people would find it just as easy to use a smart phone with GPS, and
>>> something to the tune of the Seeing Eye, (RNIB) Navigator.
>>>
>>> But make up your own minds. I’m just expressing my humble opinion as
>>> somebody who is looking to start advising clients on this sort of ting
>>> professionally. My take on this is, sadly, it won’t last long.
>>>
 http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
 

>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> My compliments and kindest regards
>>> Gordon Smith:
>>> 
>>> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist..
>>>
>>> This Message Was Created Using 100% Recycled Electrons. If you can avoid
>>> printing it, please do so. Think of the environment, save a tree!
>>>
>>>Contact:
>>>
>>> • UK Free Phone:
>>> 0800 8620538
>>> • UK Geographic / Global:
>>> +44(0) 1642 688095
>>> • UK Mobile/SMS:
>>> +44 (0)7804 983849
>>> • Vic. Australia:
>>> +61 38 82059300
>>> • US/Canada:
>>> +1 646 9151493
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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[Techno-Chat]: Re: Accessible Services For All; Or Not?

2017-11-09 Thread Gordon Smith 
I think you’re looking at this from the sole perspective of the US consumer. 
Believe it or not, there is intelligent life beyond the Atlantic and Pacific 
Ocean base. ;-)

In other countries, such agencies simply don’t exist. Blind and other disabled 
people over here, for instance, can only get aid if they require it for their 
professional lives. The rest are left to either come up with the dosh 
themselves, or do without! And that is a strong argument in favour of main 
stream technologies.

After all, as Dane quite rightly points out, one can simply pay something like 
$50.00 U.S, and there you are with a more than usable device. Even with the 
smallest Google Home or Amazon Echo Dot, you can get hundreds of hours of 
pleasure from listening to audio content both locally and on the Internet.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:

Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist..

This Message Was Created Using 100% Recycled Electrons. If you can avoid 
printing it, please do so. Think of the environment, save a tree!

  Contact:

• UK Free Phone:
0800 8620538
• UK Geographic / Global:
+44(0) 1642 688095
• UK Mobile/SMS:
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• Vic. Australia:
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• US/Canada:
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On 9 Nov 2017, at 02:20, The wolf  wrote:

as long as the voc rehab agencies continue too purchase these devices there are 
going to be priced really high

pritty much 99.9 percent of blind people don't even make a income to aford 
these high end devices myself included

700.00 a month is my total income 581 of that money pays the rent

the rest has to cover everything utilities food for my guide dog the basic needs

thank god fore food stamps.

so the voc rehab agencies are getting them fore the clients
when all the funding dries up from the agencies it is going to  be really 
interesting to see what companies end up by going out of business.
I understand that this is a nitch market
but these AT companies can only do this fore so long
On 11/8/2017 7:11 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Its tipical Humanware though really isn't it? Late to the party yet again.
> 
> There is a segment of the population that can't access an IOS or Android 
> device so perhaps Humanware's device may be useful for those people.
> 
> What's the betting too that this device is using out of date hardware?
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/9/2017 5:47 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> Sadly, HumanWare has put their device beyond the reach of many, yet again. 
>> And not only that, but they’ve made it an untenable product, in my view. 
>> Everything it does, you can do via iOS and Android. That includes playing 
>> talking books and, I’m pretty sure, DAISY content.
>> 
>> Given that the main stream devices have so much more to offer than simply 
>> being a book player and a GPS navigator, I don’t really think they’re on to 
>> a winner this time.
>> 
>> Sure, the functionality is easy to use, and accessible. But then again, most 
>> people would find it just as easy to use a smart phone with GPS, and 
>> something to the tune of the Seeing Eye, (RNIB) Navigator.
>> 
>> But make up your own minds. I’m just expressing my humble opinion as 
>> somebody who is looking to start advising clients on this sort of ting 
>> professionally. My take on this is, sadly, it won’t last long.
>> 
>>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My compliments and kindest regards
>> Gordon Smith:
>> 
>> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist..
>> 
>> This Message Was Created Using 100% Recycled Electrons. If you can avoid 
>> printing it, please do so. Think of the environment, save a tree!
>> 
>>Contact:
>> 
>> • UK Free Phone:
>> 0800 8620538
>> • UK Geographic / Global:
>> +44(0) 1642 688095
>> • UK Mobile/SMS:
>> +44 (0)7804 983849
>> • Vic. Australia:
>> +61 38 82059300
>> • US/Canada:
>> +1 646 9151493
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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