Re: [Telepathy] SIP Session without Account

2010-10-29 Thread Kai Vehmanen

Hi,

On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Olivier CrĂȘte wrote:

On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:45 +0200, Esben Stien wrote:

Empathy won't let me start a conversation without any accounts.

[...]

Telepathy-SofiaSIP doesn't support P2P SIP, it sends all messages
through the SIP proxy. If you really want to do P2P SIP, your best bet


btw, I think what Esben is after is making calls without registering. This 
is standard SIP stuff, but not really used in practical deployments (but 
useful for testing - no need for any servers to do pure client-to-client 
testing). Sofia-sip can do it, but telepathy-sofiasip not at least yet 
(but as Mikhail already pointed out, patches are welcome).


There's actually real P2P-SIP as well (i.e. peer to peer that could be 
deployed for real world use), as well, but that's quite a different thing 
and certainly not covered by base SIP specs:

  http://www.p2psip.org/
  http://tools.ietf.org/wg/p2psip/

And as it happens, one P2PSIP prototype has been done on top of sofia-sip:
  http://sipdht.sourceforge.net/sipdht2/index.html

But yeah, the specs are still work in progress.

Br,
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Re: [Telepathy] SIP Session without Account

2010-10-28 Thread mikhail.zabaluev
Hi,

 -Original Message-
 From: telepathy-
 bounces+mikhail.zabaluev=nokia@lists.freedesktop.org
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 bounces+mikhail.zabaluev=nokia@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of
 ext Olivier CrĂȘte
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:50 PM
 To: telepathy@lists.freedesktop.org
 Subject: Re: [Telepathy] SIP Session without Account
 
 On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:45 +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
  Empathy won't let me start a conversation without any accounts.
 
  SIP does not require that you have an account on a server to be able
 to
  dial it.
 
 Telepathy-SofiaSIP doesn't support P2P SIP, it sends all messages
 through the SIP proxy. If you really want to do P2P SIP, your best bet
 is probably Ekiga right now. That said, I really haven't seen anyone
 use
 P2P SIP in real life.

... But if somebody does, I'd be happy to review a patch to telepathy-sofiasip.
The sofia-sip stack permits proxy-less operation. Some modifications are needed 
to support the p2p mode in telepathy-sofiasip. A good start is a parameter to 
make it omit the proxy parameter when constructing the NUA stack instance. The 
default IP socket binding is to INADDR_ANY on the default SIP port, so the 
stack should automatically become a usable UAS. It can resolve destinations for 
outbound requests too (one caveat here is that sofia-sip uses only DNS and 
ignores other host name lookup methods). There might be some issues with 
interpreting the request URI or the To URI as addressed to the local user; all 
incoming requests are currently handled as if addressed to our local user 
without checking.

Hope this helps,
  Mikhail
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[Telepathy] SIP Session without Account

2010-10-14 Thread Esben Stien
Empathy won't let me start a conversation without any accounts. 

SIP does not require that you have an account on a server to be able to
dial it. 

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