Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[dsimons]

Wonder of wonders, the 6 files now appear to be publicly accessible. Somehow, 
the two tabs (“Scores” and “Parts”) have now been combined into one (“Scores 
and Parts”). And the first main header under that one tab is misleading: it 
says “Complete” while all it contains is harpsichord parts (in facsimile). I 
suppose it is a complete set of harpsichord parts, but still… 

 

To be safe, I’ll try to wait a day or 2 before announcing the upload to all of 
my flute- and harpsichord-playing friends. I do feel pretty good about making 
these unusual pieces available.

 

--Don

 

From: TeX-Music  On Behalf Of 
dsim...@roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:13 AM
To: rdtenn...@gmail.com; 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?

 

Thanks again to Jean-Pierre, Christian, and especially Bob for your attention 
to this. I did manage to associate my name with my Donsimons category page per 
instructions from the message I got from IMSLP about the deletion. I then 
resubmitted the 6 files (as Donsimons) and have my fingers very firmly crossed.

 

The reason for my having two different login names is mired in ancient history, 
but evidently one of them was originally for the forums and the other for file 
submissions.

 

--Don 

 

From: TeX-Music mailto:tex-music-bounces+dsimons=roadrunner@tug.org> > On Behalf Of Bob 
Tennent
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:02 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive mailto:tex-music@tug.org> >
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?

 

Don: Looking through the "history" of the Work page, your original submissions 
were as user Dsimons and your new submissions were as  
[[User:Donsimons|Donsimons]].  The latter seemed to be unknown so I changed the 
User field to Dsimons and that must have provoked the (possibly automatic) 
deletions.   Sigh.  

 

Bob

 

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:15 PM Bob Tennent mailto:rdtenn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Don:  When I complained to the administrator about the deletion of your files, 
his response was

 

Is his category page associated with his account and name linked in the editor 
field to category page? That should be automated in the upload process, do not 
touch this. Otherwise immediate deletion.

 

I don't know what this jargon means.  Is it possible you logged in differently 
from before and IMSLP thinks you're not the same user so that my "fix" was 
referring to the original user rather than the "new" user?  

 

Bob

 

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM mailto:dsim...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click on
the number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page with
title "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not use
this form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link 'Add
a file to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
upload a replacement file for the score.

--Don

> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music   >
> On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive mailto:tex-music@tug.org> 
> >
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com   
> wrote:
> 
> > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
> > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's 6
> > "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
> > this
> > page:
> >
> >
> https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
> > pp)
> >
> > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
> > editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
> >
> > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
> > slightly different names
> 
> Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded by #
> and search Upload a new version of this file
> 
> You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
> 
> Bye
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[dsimons]

Thanks again to Jean-Pierre, Christian, and especially Bob for your attention 
to this. I did manage to associate my name with my Donsimons category page per 
instructions from the message I got from IMSLP about the deletion. I then 
resubmitted the 6 files (as Donsimons) and have my fingers very firmly crossed.

 

The reason for my having two different login names is mired in ancient history, 
but evidently one of them was originally for the forums and the other for file 
submissions.

 

--Don 

 

From: TeX-Music  On Behalf Of 
Bob Tennent
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:02 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?

 

Don: Looking through the "history" of the Work page, your original submissions 
were as user Dsimons and your new submissions were as  
[[User:Donsimons|Donsimons]].  The latter seemed to be unknown so I changed the 
User field to Dsimons and that must have provoked the (possibly automatic) 
deletions.   Sigh.  

 

Bob

 

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:15 PM Bob Tennent mailto:rdtenn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Don:  When I complained to the administrator about the deletion of your files, 
his response was

 

Is his category page associated with his account and name linked in the editor 
field to category page? That should be automated in the upload process, do not 
touch this. Otherwise immediate deletion.

 

I don't know what this jargon means.  Is it possible you logged in differently 
from before and IMSLP thinks you're not the same user so that my "fix" was 
referring to the original user rather than the "new" user?  

 

Bob

 

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM mailto:dsim...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click on
the number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page with
title "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not use
this form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link 'Add
a file to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
upload a replacement file for the score.

--Don

> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music   >
> On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive mailto:tex-music@tug.org> 
> >
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com   
> wrote:
> 
> > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
> > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's 6
> > "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
> > this
> > page:
> >
> >
> https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
> > pp)
> >
> > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
> > editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
> >
> > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
> > slightly different names
> 
> Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded by #
> and search Upload a new version of this file
> 
> You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
> 
> Bye
> 
> 
> 
> --
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Don: Looking through the "history" of the Work page, your original
submissions were as user Dsimons and your new submissions were as
[[User:Donsimons|Donsimons]].  The latter seemed to be unknown so I changed
the User field to Dsimons and that must have provoked the (possibly
automatic) deletions.   Sigh.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:15 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:

> Don:  When I complained to the administrator about the deletion of your
> files, his response was
>
> Is his category page associated with his account and name linked in the
>> editor field to category page? That should be automated in the upload
>> process, do not touch this. Otherwise immediate deletion.
>
>
> I don't know what this jargon means.  Is it possible you logged in
> differently from before and IMSLP thinks you're not the same user so that
> my "fix" was referring to the original user rather than the "new" user?
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click on
>> the number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page
>> with
>> title "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not
>> use
>> this form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link
>> 'Add
>> a file to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
>> upload a replacement file for the score.
>>
>> --Don
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: TeX-Music 
>> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
>> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
>> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
>> >
>> > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
>> > > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's 6
>> > > "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
>> > > this
>> > > page:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
>> > > pp)
>> > >
>> > > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
>> > > editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
>> > >
>> > > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
>> > > slightly different names
>> >
>> > Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded
>> by #
>> > and search Upload a new version of this file
>> >
>> > You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
>> >
>> > Bye
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jean-Pierre Coulon
>> > ---
>> > TeX-music@tug.org mailing list
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Jean-Pierre Coulon]

Once done with the process I say, go to the work page and click on the 
Editor link. This will create the editor page if not yet done.


Edit it, add your birth date if you wish and say |IMSLP Contributor= the 
name of your imslp account.


see e.g. https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Coulon,_Jean-Pierre
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Jean-Pierre Coulon]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, Bob Tennent wrote:


I don't know what this jargon means.  Is it possible you logged in
differently from before and IMSLP thinks you're not the same user so that
my "fix" was referring to the original user rather than the "new" user?


Edit the page. Once a score is uploaded there should be a line equivalent 
to |Editor={{LinkEd|Jean-Pierre|Coulon}} in the batch of lines between {{ 
and }}. Otherwise insert it with your name.


Edit e.g. 
https://imslp.org/index.php?title=Air_%C3%A9cossais_vari%C3%A9,_Op.5_(Onslow,_George)=edit



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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Don:  When I complained to the administrator about the deletion of your
files, his response was

Is his category page associated with his account and name linked in the
> editor field to category page? That should be automated in the upload
> process, do not touch this. Otherwise immediate deletion.


I don't know what this jargon means.  Is it possible you logged in
differently from before and IMSLP thinks you're not the same user so that
my "fix" was referring to the original user rather than the "new" user?

Bob

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM  wrote:

> Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click on
> the number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page
> with
> title "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not use
> this form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link
> 'Add
> a file to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
> upload a replacement file for the score.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> >
> > > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
> > > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's 6
> > > "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
> > > this
> > > page:
> > >
> > >
> > https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
> > > pp)
> > >
> > > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
> > > editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
> > >
> > > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
> > > slightly different names
> >
> > Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded by
> #
> > and search Upload a new version of this file
> >
> > You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
> >
> > Bye
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > ---
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Don:  Un-doing the edit didn't work because the files have been deleted.
You'll have to re-submit. The IMSLP admins are really sensitive to
mistakes, even when their interface is so misleading.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:47 AM Bob Tennent  wrote:

> It seems an IMSLP admin has deleted Don's Concerts submissions.  I've
> complained to him.  It's likely because Don had submitted two versions of
> three of the concerts (instead of new versions of the existing files).
>
> Don:  You may have to re-submit your scores :+( but I'll try un-doing his
> edit.
>
> Bob
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:16 AM Christian Mondrup <
> c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:
>
>> Den 20.01.2022 kl. 03.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
>> > The warning is to not upload /new/ scores.  The section for uploading a
>> > new version is half-way down on that page
>> >
>> > I fixed the page.
>> >
>>
>> I admit that the IMSLP editing facilities are not particularly user
>> friendly. However, IMSLP was the only qualified alternative when I,
>> around 2010, realized that I'd never manage to establish a sustainable
>> editorial community around WIMA. I had ideas then to a database driven,
>> and maybe a bit more intuitive user interface.
>>
>> That's history. And I've accustomed myself to IMSLP's Wikipedian
>> interface. So Don, if/when you encounter new problems I'll be happy to
>> be there with a helping hand like Bob and Jean-Pierre.
>>
>> All the best
>> --
>> Christian Mondrup
>> WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
>> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
>>
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

It seems an IMSLP admin has deleted Don's Concerts submissions.  I've
complained to him.  It's likely because Don had submitted two versions of
three of the concerts (instead of new versions of the existing files).

Don:  You may have to re-submit your scores :+( but I'll try un-doing his
edit.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:16 AM Christian Mondrup <
c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:

> Den 20.01.2022 kl. 03.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > The warning is to not upload /new/ scores.  The section for uploading a
> > new version is half-way down on that page
> >
> > I fixed the page.
> >
>
> I admit that the IMSLP editing facilities are not particularly user
> friendly. However, IMSLP was the only qualified alternative when I,
> around 2010, realized that I'd never manage to establish a sustainable
> editorial community around WIMA. I had ideas then to a database driven,
> and maybe a bit more intuitive user interface.
>
> That's history. And I've accustomed myself to IMSLP's Wikipedian
> interface. So Don, if/when you encounter new problems I'll be happy to
> be there with a helping hand like Bob and Jean-Pierre.
>
> All the best
> --
> Christian Mondrup
> WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Christian: Perhaps you could suggest to the IMSLP admins that the page you
get when you click on "Upload a new version of this file" could be improved.
The warning "Please do NOT use this form to upload music scores!" should
read "Please do NOT use this form to upload *new* music scores!"  and
there should be a heading for the section that *is* to be used for new file
versions,  comparable to the "Upload Picture" heading.  I could fix Don's
work page but I can't fix the new-version template.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:16 AM Christian Mondrup <
c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:

> Den 20.01.2022 kl. 03.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > The warning is to not upload /new/ scores.  The section for uploading a
> > new version is half-way down on that page
> >
> > I fixed the page.
> >
>
> I admit that the IMSLP editing facilities are not particularly user
> friendly. However, IMSLP was the only qualified alternative when I,
> around 2010, realized that I'd never manage to establish a sustainable
> editorial community around WIMA. I had ideas then to a database driven,
> and maybe a bit more intuitive user interface.
>
> That's history. And I've accustomed myself to IMSLP's Wikipedian
> interface. So Don, if/when you encounter new problems I'll be happy to
> be there with a helping hand like Bob and Jean-Pierre.
>
> All the best
> --
> Christian Mondrup
> WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Christian Mondrup]

Den 20.01.2022 kl. 03.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
The warning is to not upload /new/ scores.  The section for uploading a 
new version is half-way down on that page


I fixed the page.



I admit that the IMSLP editing facilities are not particularly user 
friendly. However, IMSLP was the only qualified alternative when I, 
around 2010, realized that I'd never manage to establish a sustainable 
editorial community around WIMA. I had ideas then to a database driven, 
and maybe a bit more intuitive user interface.


That's history. And I've accustomed myself to IMSLP's Wikipedian 
interface. So Don, if/when you encounter new problems I'll be happy to 
be there with a helping hand like Bob and Jean-Pierre.


All the best
--
Christian Mondrup
WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files

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