Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)
In message 20108215412.679...@orchid7-pc, Joe Geller writes: I think that advocates are reading more into Bilski than is actually there. Well, so are corporate patent laywers then: There is near panic in several of the big patent pools, because they also read Bilski along the lines I laid out. The Bilski ruling is indeed narrow, but there are more junk patents in that a narrow corridor than you probably imagine. One unofficial estimate, from an insider, is that IBM alone lost at least 1000, possibly 2000 patents to Bilski. The only reason you have not heard the full roar on this, is that lawyers treasure their vacation. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)
On 03/08/2010, Joe Geller joegel...@roadrunner.com wrote: but again there is no distinct yes or no test. This in itself should tell us that all software patents are an anathema and should be scrapped completely. Business should compete on its merit, not on it's ability to own patents. Patents as a whole stifle competition and the development of new and better things, they are just a way for businesses to get fat and lazy. I know what your going to say but I ask you to think very carefully before you reply to this point and consider the history before the patent system became so restrictive. Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)
Hi That or they are quietly selling off the shares in the pool to the next fool. It will be several years before enough cases are tried to really know what it does or does not mean. Bob On Aug 3, 2010, at 2:23 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 20108215412.679...@orchid7-pc, Joe Geller writes: I think that advocates are reading more into Bilski than is actually there. Well, so are corporate patent laywers then: There is near panic in several of the big patent pools, because they also read Bilski along the lines I laid out. The Bilski ruling is indeed narrow, but there are more junk patents in that a narrow corridor than you probably imagine. One unofficial estimate, from an insider, is that IBM alone lost at least 1000, possibly 2000 patents to Bilski. The only reason you have not heard the full roar on this, is that lawyers treasure their vacation. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 74AC175PC
I would do the same .. -pete Please count me in for $10 plus shipping for qty 2, if anybody's counting. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Heathkid heath...@heathkid.com wrote: Stanley, Would you be willing to do another group buy? Â I'll send you enough $ for 10 of them via PayPal before you buy and I know others are already willing to buy more. Â I just can't logistically do a group buy myself right now but would be willing to help pay for your time and efforts. Â I know what they are in quantities of 50. Â I'll pay $2 each. Â That should make it worth while... Â with fees, etc... I'll send you $25 for 10 of them. Will you do this? 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 74AC175PC I have had good luck with Quest they are showing stock. www.questcomp.com They do have a $25 min. Stanley - Original Message From: Bob Camp li...@rtty.us To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 4:20:44 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 74AC175PC Hi At least at this point the surplus dealer has been checked out by others buying the parts from him. You might find there's enough interest to make another buy worthwhile. Bob On Aug 1, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Heathkid wrote: Hello. Does anyone have any of these left? I've checked with a couple of the guys that did a group buy but they are out of them. I'd prefer not to do SMT and don't really want to buy 50+ from an unknown surplus seller. I need six (6) - or at least one or whatever someone has to get me started. Thanks! 73 Brice KA8MAV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] What's the latest correct PICTIC II Mouser project?
I believe there is at least more than one Mouser project covering the PICTIC II, can someone point me to the best version with pots that are correctly orientated, etc, please? I'm not worried about the 74AC175PC as I have a couple of them in my grubby little hands so I would delete them from my order anyway. Thanks, Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] What's the latest correct PICTIC II Mouser project?
Hi The one I put up didn't get updated for the op amps going out of stock. Bob On Aug 3, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Steve Rooke wrote: I believe there is at least more than one Mouser project covering the PICTIC II, can someone point me to the best version with pots that are correctly orientated, etc, please? I'm not worried about the 74AC175PC as I have a couple of them in my grubby little hands so I would delete them from my order anyway. Thanks, Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)
I received the Prologix GPIB-USB controller today as well as my HP 5335A. I haven't unpacked the counter yet but I'll try out the Prologix tomorrow at work with the 5335A we have there. Any suggestions on getting it to control it as well as simply log output? Honestly, I haven't installed any of the software yet so I don't know what I'm in getting myself into. I've tried searching the archives but haven't had any luck. Does anyone have a 5335A and the Prologix interface that can give me a head start? Here's the links I have: KE5FX -- http://www.thegleam.com/ke5fx/ (Thanks John!) EZGPIB -- http://ulrich-bangert.de/html/downloads.html Is there anything else I need? 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: John Miles jmi...@pop.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB) Depends on what he wants to do. If he wants to write his own apps for the counter (or use mine) the Prologix controller will work fine. You talk to it with generic COM port code rather than a proprietary API. If he wants to run existing commercial software like Labview he is likely better off buying a used National Instruments adapter on eBay, though. It will not necessarily be any cheaper than a new Prologix adapter... probably close to the same price in fact, unless he makes the mistake of buying an ancient ISA-bus or RS-232 adapter. -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:36 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB) Hi I think I'd haunt the e-place for a much cheaper alternative. Bob On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Heathkid wrote: I just purchased a HP 5335A and would like to know the group's opinion on the following: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=549 73 Brice KA8MAV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)
I received the Prologix GPIB-USB controller today as well as my HP 5335A. I haven't unpacked the counter yet but I'll try out the Prologix tomorrow at work with the 5335A we have there. Any suggestions on getting it to control it as well as simply log output? Honestly, I haven't installed any of the software yet so I don't know what I'm in getting myself into. I've tried searching the archives but haven't had any luck. Does anyone have a 5335A and the Prologix interface that can give me a head start? Quick and dirty instructions for basic frequency measurements with my TI app (lacking any other documentation): - Install the adapter and its drivers - Install http://www.ke5fx.com/gpib/setup.exe (5 MB, requires Win2K or later) - Set your counter to talk-only mode and set up a measurement that will generate frequency or TI readings at something less than the counter's full rate. I recommend starting with frequency readings at one per second to keep things simple while debugging the connection. - Run the Prologix configurator in my package and select the virtual COM port for your adapter. At this point you should see the counter readings scrolling by in the TTY window. - Hit 'Update CONNECT.INI' and exit the Prologix configurator - Run the time-interval analysis app - Select Acquire-Acquire from GPIB counter in talk-only mode You should see the same readings in the 'Incoming Data' window that you saw earlier. - Assuming you're looking at frequency readings, select 'Frequency (Hz)' and enter any necessary values in the 'Numeric Field #' and multiplier fields to scale your counter's readings to Hz units. - Hit 'Start Measurement'. It should begin plotting frequency, phase, and ADEV, etc. readings. Initially, you should hit the 'f' key (Measurement-Frequency difference) and make sure the values being plotted make sense. In 'f' mode, the 1-second row in the frequency chart should match the counter's display exactly, apart from any floating-point rounding error in the LSDs. Once you get to this point, you are up and running. I've never used a 5335A with the program, but the talk-only acquisition option should work with almost any model counter. If you try it and have problems getting these steps to work, let me know (offline so as not to clutter up the list) and we'll figure it out! -- john, KE5FX ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Garmin 255W GPS units
I have access to a large number of these units (~600). We are in the process of scanning them for functional units. They are 4 dashtop type car or boat units. I have played with a functional one, and accessed some info with free software, and would of course like to get to the actual live position. I am open to any ideas from anyone who would like the units which are not working for parts. It appears that the units which have functional internals, but no display may be as many as 100 total. Hopefully no more than 50% will be dead, and parts only, but it may go as high as 75%. These units appear to have spent time submerged as far as the damage sustained. They are purchased from an insurance salvage situation. I have managed to dismantle them down to a housing set, battery, processor board, display assembly, and misc. hardware. Please contact me at jwsmobile [at] g[m] ail.com (removing special characters). Thanks Jim ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)
Thanks John! I'll give it a try in the morning and let you know the results. 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: John Miles jmi...@pop.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB) I received the Prologix GPIB-USB controller today as well as my HP 5335A. I haven't unpacked the counter yet but I'll try out the Prologix tomorrow at work with the 5335A we have there. Any suggestions on getting it to control it as well as simply log output? Honestly, I haven't installed any of the software yet so I don't know what I'm in getting myself into. I've tried searching the archives but haven't had any luck. Does anyone have a 5335A and the Prologix interface that can give me a head start? Quick and dirty instructions for basic frequency measurements with my TI app (lacking any other documentation): - Install the adapter and its drivers - Install http://www.ke5fx.com/gpib/setup.exe (5 MB, requires Win2K or later) - Set your counter to talk-only mode and set up a measurement that will generate frequency or TI readings at something less than the counter's full rate. I recommend starting with frequency readings at one per second to keep things simple while debugging the connection. - Run the Prologix configurator in my package and select the virtual COM port for your adapter. At this point you should see the counter readings scrolling by in the TTY window. - Hit 'Update CONNECT.INI' and exit the Prologix configurator - Run the time-interval analysis app - Select Acquire-Acquire from GPIB counter in talk-only mode You should see the same readings in the 'Incoming Data' window that you saw earlier. - Assuming you're looking at frequency readings, select 'Frequency (Hz)' and enter any necessary values in the 'Numeric Field #' and multiplier fields to scale your counter's readings to Hz units. - Hit 'Start Measurement'. It should begin plotting frequency, phase, and ADEV, etc. readings. Initially, you should hit the 'f' key (Measurement-Frequency difference) and make sure the values being plotted make sense. In 'f' mode, the 1-second row in the frequency chart should match the counter's display exactly, apart from any floating-point rounding error in the LSDs. Once you get to this point, you are up and running. I've never used a 5335A with the program, but the talk-only acquisition option should work with almost any model counter. If you try it and have problems getting these steps to work, let me know (offline so as not to clutter up the list) and we'll figure it out! -- john, KE5FX ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
