[time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.

2010-06-28 Thread Luis Cupido

I'm quite sure someone has went down this road...
so I better ask first.

Phase noise wise what would be the best OCXO's that
we could find around, taken from equipments, or ebay
etc.
I have in mind essentially the HP ones. the PIEZZO
ISOTEMP, CMAK, Vecton(harder to find) and some of the small
wenzels, BLIBEY, OACs and a few more.

Not necessarily just 10MHz... other freqs
are of interest too.

Any generic heading info/help?
Many Thanks.


Luis Cupido.
ct1dmk.



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Re: [time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.

2010-06-28 Thread John Miles
Wenzel ULN-grade parts and Valpey-Fisher's VFOV110 line come to mind.
There's also a vendor in the UK whose name escapes me who has been
advertising ULN-class OCXOs lately (I think someone from there is actually
on the list.)

The term ultra low noise is common in the XO business, but only a few
vendors are serious about competing in that sector.

-- john, KE5FX

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 Subject: [time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.


 I'm quite sure someone has went down this road...
 so I better ask first.

 Phase noise wise what would be the best OCXO's that
 we could find around, taken from equipments, or ebay
 etc.
 I have in mind essentially the HP ones. the PIEZZO
 ISOTEMP, CMAK, Vecton(harder to find) and some of the small
 wenzels, BLIBEY, OACs and a few more.

 Not necessarily just 10MHz... other freqs
 are of interest too.

 Any generic heading info/help?
 Many Thanks.


 Luis Cupido.
 ct1dmk.






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Re: [time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.

2010-06-28 Thread David C. Partridge
And the price will make your eyes water!! 

Dave P.


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Of John Miles
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.

Wenzel ULN-grade parts and Valpey-Fisher's VFOV110 line come to mind.
There's also a vendor in the UK whose name escapes me who has been advertising 
ULN-class OCXOs lately (I think someone from there is actually on the list.)

The term ultra low noise is common in the XO business, but only a few vendors 
are serious about competing in that sector.

-- john, KE5FX

 -Original Message-
 From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on
 Behalf Of Luis Cupido
 Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:02 AM
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
 Subject: [time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.


 I'm quite sure someone has went down this road...
 so I better ask first.

 Phase noise wise what would be the best OCXO's that we could find 
 around, taken from equipments, or ebay etc.
 I have in mind essentially the HP ones. the PIEZZO ISOTEMP, CMAK, 
 Vecton(harder to find) and some of the small wenzels, BLIBEY, OACs and 
 a few more.

 Not necessarily just 10MHz... other freqs are of interest too.

 Any generic heading info/help?
 Many Thanks.


 Luis Cupido.
 ct1dmk.






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Re: [time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.

2010-06-28 Thread EWKehren
I do not think I can answer that question the way you present it. It  
depends to a large degree on what you want to use it for. If you want to  
multiply to microwave frequency there are 100 MHz units out there with 
excellent  
low phase noise in the $ 400 to $1400 price range, if it is Allan Variance  I 
have seen HP10811's for around $100 and from there up with the sky  
(Oscilloquatz) the limit.
Bert Kehren
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2010 10:02:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
cup...@mail.ua.pt writes:

I'm  quite sure someone has went down this road...
so I better ask  first.

Phase noise wise what would be the best OCXO's that
we could  find around, taken from equipments, or ebay
etc.
I have in mind  essentially the HP ones. the PIEZZO
ISOTEMP, CMAK, Vecton(harder to find)  and some of the small
wenzels, BLIBEY, OACs and a few more.

Not  necessarily just 10MHz... other freqs
are of interest too.

Any  generic heading info/help?
Many Thanks.


Luis  Cupido.
ct1dmk.



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Re: [time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.

2010-06-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Output frequency matters quite a bit. What is good phase noise at 100 MHz 
isn't going to be very impressive at 10 MHz. Frequency offset also matters. 
Optimizing for -192 dbc / Hz at 100 KHz offset is a very different thing than 
trying for -155 dbc / Hz at 10 Hz offset.  You are unlikely to find an OCXO 
that is real good both at 10 Hz and at 100KHz. 

All that said, the OCXO in the Thunderbolt isn't all that bad for phase noise. 
Since TBolts are easy to find, so are the OCXO's.

Bob


On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Luis Cupido wrote:

 I'm quite sure someone has went down this road...
 so I better ask first.
 
 Phase noise wise what would be the best OCXO's that
 we could find around, taken from equipments, or ebay
 etc.
 I have in mind essentially the HP ones. the PIEZZO
 ISOTEMP, CMAK, Vecton(harder to find) and some of the small
 wenzels, BLIBEY, OACs and a few more.
 
 Not necessarily just 10MHz... other freqs
 are of interest too.
 
 Any generic heading info/help?
 Many Thanks.
 
 
 Luis Cupido.
 ct1dmk.
 
 
 
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