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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 16:47, J. Forster j...@quik.com wrote: Hi Jim, Yes, it would be a lot of work to write Wiki style articles on all list topics. The point of wikis is that people write what they know, if they have the will to write about it, and when they have the time. Another option would be an archive of all Group posts, searchable via Google. There is apparently a Google app that does that. I've seen options on web pages where there is a Google search button, that has options of: ( ) Search the site ( ) Search the web No app needed! This is done using the site: keyword to google searchs, for example, this query will report only results on febo.com: http://www.google.it/search?q=unobtanium+site%3Afebo.com or put manually in the google form: unobtanium site:febo.com (I think this is my first post here, so greetings to all) Cheers P. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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without regard to setting up the bboard or not, I'd recommend creating an archive of time-nuts at Nabble. Nabble is more easily searchable than the standard mailman type archives, and it has a bboard format, and people can use accounts there and post back to the list. It's all transparent to the list owners; they just need to approve the account that receives the mail, and of course, agree with the whole thing in principle. I've done this for other mailing lists where there was a sizable minority who preferred to use a bboard. It keeps the information from being split, yet still provides both reading and writing formats. Leigh. Personal Preference, Restrictions with the mail list format, would like a better way to search content. Stanley - Original Message From: Brian Kirby kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:36:24 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Whats the reason and motive for this ? On 8/24/2010 8:50 PM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Well, if you can't use nuts, try flakes. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: erniepe...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:43 AM Stanley, how about the TIME-GURU name? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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You can use www.timenuts.com to reach my forum, I can be reached here or there and several other places, all are welcome. Stanley - Original Message From: Steve Rooke sar10...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 12:53:56 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum On 25 August 2010 17:43, erniepe...@aol.com wrote: Stanley, how about the TIME-GURU name? Or how about:- time-sane time-slow time-not-so-nuts time-nuts-beginners time-nuts-non-exclusive time-nuts-not-bruce time-for-a-change time-stupid-questions or even:- time-nuts-excluded We are in danger of ending up with a TekScopes2 group here and do we really want to fork the group. Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Time to escape to the bunker. Steve On 25 August 2010 18:30, Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com wrote: You can use www.timenuts.com to reach my forum, I can be reached here or there and several other places, all are welcome. Stanley - Original Message From: Steve Rooke sar10...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 12:53:56 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum On 25 August 2010 17:43, erniepe...@aol.com wrote: Stanley, how about the TIME-GURU name? Or how about:- time-sane time-slow time-not-so-nuts time-nuts-beginners time-nuts-non-exclusive time-nuts-not-bruce time-for-a-change time-stupid-questions or even:- time-nuts-excluded We are in danger of ending up with a TekScopes2 group here and do we really want to fork the group. Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Le 25 août 2010 à 09:42, Steve Rooke a écrit : Time to escape to the bunker. :) Steve On 25 August 2010 18:30, Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com wrote: You can use www.timenuts.com to reach my forum, I can be reached here or there and several other places, all are welcome. Stanley - Original Message From: Steve Rooke sar10...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 12:53:56 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum On 25 August 2010 17:43, erniepe...@aol.com wrote: Stanley, how about the TIME-GURU name? Or how about:- time-sane time-slow time-not-so-nuts time-nuts-beginners time-nuts-non-exclusive time-nuts-not-bruce time-for-a-change time-stupid-questions or even:- time-nuts-excluded We are in danger of ending up with a TekScopes2 group here and do we really want to fork the group. Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Why? Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Reynolds Sent: 25 August 2010 2:51 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Time after time Time and again Time Gentlemen Please Time Bolts and Thunder Nuts Nuts and reasons Spacetime: A waste of both. C :) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rooke Sent: 25 August 2010 06:54 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum On 25 August 2010 17:43, erniepe...@aol.com wrote: Stanley, how about the TIME-GURU name? Or how about:- time-sane time-slow time-not-so-nuts time-nuts-beginners time-nuts-non-exclusive time-nuts-not-bruce time-for-a-change time-stupid-questions or even:- time-nuts-excluded We are in danger of ending up with a TekScopes2 group here and do we really want to fork the group. Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time- nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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For me it's getting too time-consuming to watch every small 'alternative' forum. Most of the time there is near zero traffic and that keeps them from growing. For successfully starting a new communication platform, there should be a unique idea, strong motivation, and sufficient demand. So, it boils down to the one question: What is your motivation to start a new board? Adrian Stanley Reynolds schrieb: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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If your objective is to make a Wiki for Time-Nuts topics, why not do just that. There are Wiki Builder packages out there and IMO an easily searchable archive of Group posts would be a good thing. It's unclear to me how many will have time to read both emails and a forum. I certainly don't. FWIW, -John = No, all my idea, I have not asked anyone's permission. I meant no disrespect. Stanley - Original Message From: Heathkid heath...@heathkid.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 11:26:21 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, I was under the impression you already had the permission of the *founders* to use the time-nuts name to start up this new forum. Was I mistaken? 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, It seems to me that we already have/had one somewhere [ ? ] or it was proposed and started but did not get off the ground [ ? ] However, I could be wrong or seriously confused. The nature of the timenuts list was supposed to be a low key - low noise list, not a beginners QA service and project workout. If you do get started and flying, perhaps your forum could handle that beginners QA service and the, sometimes, large load of the project traffic. I agree with Brian Kirby concerning respecting the Timenuts title and so forth. John Ackermann has put a lot of time and effort into the basis of the Timenuts list, not to mention the expense of hosting and maintaining the list and its archives. The Timenuts moniker, while recognized and respected internationally, is a form of prior art and may well constitute a form of copyright. I would suggest that not only is it proper to ask him his feelings but may require his permission for use of his list moniker. BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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I remember talk of a wiki a year ago or so. I'm happy to host such a beast but won't have time to be the sole admin. I co-lo with johncompanies.com(tripple redundant OC-48 lines in a peering center -fast). -Bob On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:48 AM, J. Forster j...@quik.com wrote: If your objective is to make a Wiki for Time-Nuts topics, why not do just that. There are Wiki Builder packages out there and IMO an easily searchable archive of Group posts would be a good thing. It's unclear to me how many will have time to read both emails and a forum. I certainly don't. FWIW, -John = No, all my idea, I have not asked anyone's permission. I meant no disrespect. Stanley - Original Message From: Heathkid heath...@heathkid.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 11:26:21 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, I was under the impression you already had the permission of the *founders* to use the time-nuts name to start up this new forum. Was I mistaken? 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, It seems to me that we already have/had one somewhere [ ? ] or it was proposed and started but did not get off the ground [ ? ] However, I could be wrong or seriously confused. The nature of the timenuts list was supposed to be a low key - low noise list, not a beginners QA service and project workout. If you do get started and flying, perhaps your forum could handle that beginners QA service and the, sometimes, large load of the project traffic. I agree with Brian Kirby concerning respecting the Timenuts title and so forth. John Ackermann has put a lot of time and effort into the basis of the Timenuts list, not to mention the expense of hosting and maintaining the list and its archives. The Timenuts moniker, while recognized and respected internationally, is a form of prior art and may well constitute a form of copyright. I would suggest that not only is it proper to ask him his feelings but may require his permission for use of his list moniker. BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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J. Forster wrote: If your objective is to make a Wiki for Time-Nuts topics, why not do just that. There are Wiki Builder packages out there and IMO an easily searchable archive of Group posts would be a good thing. It's unclear to me how many will have time to read both emails and a forum. I certainly don't. It would be a benefit to society if someone were to take all the posts on various schemes and circuits and edit them into a document/wiki/FAQ.. however, having done that in other circumstances, I know that it is a HUGE task, and one that is continuing. I've been involved in several mailing lists over the years (and years) and some (like this) have a fairly high signal to noise ratio. ALL of them occasionally have noise bursts (for lack of a better term).. often when the list traffic is otherwise slow and/or people are busy doing something they're not yet ready to talk about or need to have questions answered. to paraphrase mailing lists abhor a vacuum, and rather than is the list still alive posts, technically oriented lists wind up with a certain amount of topic drift, but it's temporary, and as soon as some thing interesting in the real core area pops up, it snaps back into line (often aided by the skilled hand of a moderator) I am aware of one successful fork and that's from the Tesla Coil Mailing List (TCML) at http://www.pupman.com, which spawned a 4hv forum, because the TCML tries to stay Tesla coil focused, but there is a lot of interest in non Tesla Coil HV stuff. A lot of overlap between members, and both are active, and both are also high SNR. Sometimes, too, there are personality clashes or people get cranked up about some issue, but those inevitably die down (or the gentle hand of moderation puts out the flames) because, under it all, the people on the list are there because the care about the subject, and caring about the subject means strong feelings, but also (eventual)tolerance of others (again, moderators can do wonders).. I am aware of several unsuccessful forks (or of limited success, anyway)... where there was an attempt to split out the newbie questions from the old hands... the problem is that the old hands want to talk old hand stuff, but are also the folks best suited to answering the newbie questions, so the reading/responding traffic hasn't really changed. And how do you get to be an old hand without starting as a newbie? There are also manufacturer sponsored lists where marketing or product support is important, and there's a desire to keep the speculative bug finding and philosophical design discussions from distracting new customers. Flex-radio/flexedge lists are in this bucket, but I don't know how well it works. There's lots of other factors at play in that particular list/forum arena. (And, of course, the biggies like Apple, Dell, HP, etc, are notorious for removing posts that are uncomfortable) Personally, I like email lists, because I am an old codger at the age of 50 and prefer a gentle push rather than having to pull from a forum. It's like reading the morning newspaper (which I did just before writing this!) The only time it's a pain is when I'm on travel for an extended period of time, because it's worse going through hundreds of emails (from all sources) at a crack than seeing them all nicely laid out. I could, I suppose, set up some rules/folders, but that leads to folders of unread list posts, and I'd rather read/delete/read/delete ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Hi Jim, Yes, it would be a lot of work to write Wiki style articles on all list topics. Another option would be an archive of all Group posts, searchable via Google. There is apparently a Google app that does that. I've seen options on web pages where there is a Google search button, that has options of: ( ) Search the site ( ) Search the web This should be pretty easy to implement and far less effort than a full Wiki. FWIW, -John J. Forster wrote: If your objective is to make a Wiki for Time-Nuts topics, why not do just that. There are Wiki Builder packages out there and IMO an easily searchable archive of Group posts would be a good thing. It's unclear to me how many will have time to read both emails and a forum. I certainly don't. It would be a benefit to society if someone were to take all the posts on various schemes and circuits and edit them into a document/wiki/FAQ.. however, having done that in other circumstances, I know that it is a HUGE task, and one that is continuing. I've been involved in several mailing lists over the years (and years) and some (like this) have a fairly high signal to noise ratio. ALL of them occasionally have noise bursts (for lack of a better term).. often when the list traffic is otherwise slow and/or people are busy doing something they're not yet ready to talk about or need to have questions answered. to paraphrase mailing lists abhor a vacuum, and rather than is the list still alive posts, technically oriented lists wind up with a certain amount of topic drift, but it's temporary, and as soon as some thing interesting in the real core area pops up, it snaps back into line (often aided by the skilled hand of a moderator) I am aware of one successful fork and that's from the Tesla Coil Mailing List (TCML) at http://www.pupman.com, which spawned a 4hv forum, because the TCML tries to stay Tesla coil focused, but there is a lot of interest in non Tesla Coil HV stuff. A lot of overlap between members, and both are active, and both are also high SNR. Sometimes, too, there are personality clashes or people get cranked up about some issue, but those inevitably die down (or the gentle hand of moderation puts out the flames) because, under it all, the people on the list are there because the care about the subject, and caring about the subject means strong feelings, but also (eventual)tolerance of others (again, moderators can do wonders).. I am aware of several unsuccessful forks (or of limited success, anyway)... where there was an attempt to split out the newbie questions from the old hands... the problem is that the old hands want to talk old hand stuff, but are also the folks best suited to answering the newbie questions, so the reading/responding traffic hasn't really changed. And how do you get to be an old hand without starting as a newbie? There are also manufacturer sponsored lists where marketing or product support is important, and there's a desire to keep the speculative bug finding and philosophical design discussions from distracting new customers. Flex-radio/flexedge lists are in this bucket, but I don't know how well it works. There's lots of other factors at play in that particular list/forum arena. (And, of course, the biggies like Apple, Dell, HP, etc, are notorious for removing posts that are uncomfortable) Personally, I like email lists, because I am an old codger at the age of 50 and prefer a gentle push rather than having to pull from a forum. It's like reading the morning newspaper (which I did just before writing this!) The only time it's a pain is when I'm on travel for an extended period of time, because it's worse going through hundreds of emails (from all sources) at a crack than seeing them all nicely laid out. I could, I suppose, set up some rules/folders, but that leads to folders of unread list posts, and I'd rather read/delete/read/delete ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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It would be a benefit to society if someone were to take all the posts on various schemes and circuits and edit them into a document/wiki/FAQ.. I have done it on occasion (selecting threads which I found were interesting and put them in my Wiki (http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/). I have not been able to do it recently because of other distractions, but my wiki is available to anyone (as Richard McCorkle demonstrated with his PICTIC project: http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:pictic) so if anyone feels like it, be my guest and wiki away!!! It does not have to be a one man job. Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: jimlux jim...@earthlink.net Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:30:34 To: j...@quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum J. Forster wrote: If your objective is to make a Wiki for Time-Nuts topics, why not do just that. There are Wiki Builder packages out there and IMO an easily searchable archive of Group posts would be a good thing. It's unclear to me how many will have time to read both emails and a forum. I certainly don't. It would be a benefit to society if someone were to take all the posts on various schemes and circuits and edit them into a document/wiki/FAQ.. however, having done that in other circumstances, I know that it is a HUGE task, and one that is continuing. I've been involved in several mailing lists over the years (and years) and some (like this) have a fairly high signal to noise ratio. ALL of them occasionally have noise bursts (for lack of a better term).. often when the list traffic is otherwise slow and/or people are busy doing something they're not yet ready to talk about or need to have questions answered. to paraphrase mailing lists abhor a vacuum, and rather than is the list still alive posts, technically oriented lists wind up with a certain amount of topic drift, but it's temporary, and as soon as some thing interesting in the real core area pops up, it snaps back into line (often aided by the skilled hand of a moderator) I am aware of one successful fork and that's from the Tesla Coil Mailing List (TCML) at http://www.pupman.com, which spawned a 4hv forum, because the TCML tries to stay Tesla coil focused, but there is a lot of interest in non Tesla Coil HV stuff. A lot of overlap between members, and both are active, and both are also high SNR. Sometimes, too, there are personality clashes or people get cranked up about some issue, but those inevitably die down (or the gentle hand of moderation puts out the flames) because, under it all, the people on the list are there because the care about the subject, and caring about the subject means strong feelings, but also (eventual)tolerance of others (again, moderators can do wonders).. I am aware of several unsuccessful forks (or of limited success, anyway)... where there was an attempt to split out the newbie questions from the old hands... the problem is that the old hands want to talk old hand stuff, but are also the folks best suited to answering the newbie questions, so the reading/responding traffic hasn't really changed. And how do you get to be an old hand without starting as a newbie? There are also manufacturer sponsored lists where marketing or product support is important, and there's a desire to keep the speculative bug finding and philosophical design discussions from distracting new customers. Flex-radio/flexedge lists are in this bucket, but I don't know how well it works. There's lots of other factors at play in that particular list/forum arena. (And, of course, the biggies like Apple, Dell, HP, etc, are notorious for removing posts that are uncomfortable) Personally, I like email lists, because I am an old codger at the age of 50 and prefer a gentle push rather than having to pull from a forum. It's like reading the morning newspaper (which I did just before writing this!) The only time it's a pain is when I'm on travel for an extended period of time, because it's worse going through hundreds of emails (from all sources) at a crack than seeing them all nicely laid out. I could, I suppose, set up some rules/folders, but that leads to folders of unread list posts, and I'd rather read/delete/read/delete ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Time nuts is well archived and easy to search via google. I been able to locate most any message I need from the archives posted on both time and volt nuts since inception, and time has the added benefit of having been archived by http://www.mail-archive.com/ Email being the most barebones is most compatible with nearly any net connect device from PCs to cellphones, and most easy to manipulate locally. The main downside of email is near absence of formatting, so its harder to write non-English texts such as, arabic, Chinese or even some characters in German etc. or post images, math equations and schematics. Best Wishes, Marv Gozum Philadelphia ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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On 08/25/2010 09:48 AM, J. Forster wrote: If your objective is to make a Wiki for Time-Nuts topics, why not do just that. There are Wiki Builder packages out there and IMO an easily searchable archive of Group posts would be a good thing. It's unclear to me how many will have time to read both emails and a forum. I certainly don't. Echo that. I hate fora with a passion. John -- John DeArmond Tellico Plains, Occupied TN http://www.neon-john.com-- email from here http://www.johndearmond.com -- Best damned Blog on the net PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Please note that Bruce Griffiths has documented many of the circuits that have been referenced in time-nuts over the last few years in his pages on my web site: www.ko4bb.com/~bruce/ and he occasionally keeps adding to it. The time-nuts (and all others) are of course welcome (and encouraged) to browse these pages and make suggestions for additions or comments, via the list, direct email or the wiki. There are plenty of options available. Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: jimlux jim...@earthlink.net Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:30:34 To: j...@quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum J. Forster wrote: If your objective is to make a Wiki for Time-Nuts topics, why not do just that. There are Wiki Builder packages out there and IMO an easily searchable archive of Group posts would be a good thing. It's unclear to me how many will have time to read both emails and a forum. I certainly don't. It would be a benefit to society if someone were to take all the posts on various schemes and circuits and edit them into a document/wiki/FAQ.. however, having done that in other circumstances, I know that it is a HUGE task, and one that is continuing. I've been involved in several mailing lists over the years (and years) and some (like this) have a fairly high signal to noise ratio. ALL of them occasionally have noise bursts (for lack of a better term).. often when the list traffic is otherwise slow and/or people are busy doing something they're not yet ready to talk about or need to have questions answered. to paraphrase mailing lists abhor a vacuum, and rather than is the list still alive posts, technically oriented lists wind up with a certain amount of topic drift, but it's temporary, and as soon as some thing interesting in the real core area pops up, it snaps back into line (often aided by the skilled hand of a moderator) I am aware of one successful fork and that's from the Tesla Coil Mailing List (TCML) at http://www.pupman.com, which spawned a 4hv forum, because the TCML tries to stay Tesla coil focused, but there is a lot of interest in non Tesla Coil HV stuff. A lot of overlap between members, and both are active, and both are also high SNR. Sometimes, too, there are personality clashes or people get cranked up about some issue, but those inevitably die down (or the gentle hand of moderation puts out the flames) because, under it all, the people on the list are there because the care about the subject, and caring about the subject means strong feelings, but also (eventual)tolerance of others (again, moderators can do wonders).. I am aware of several unsuccessful forks (or of limited success, anyway)... where there was an attempt to split out the newbie questions from the old hands... the problem is that the old hands want to talk old hand stuff, but are also the folks best suited to answering the newbie questions, so the reading/responding traffic hasn't really changed. And how do you get to be an old hand without starting as a newbie? There are also manufacturer sponsored lists where marketing or product support is important, and there's a desire to keep the speculative bug finding and philosophical design discussions from distracting new customers. Flex-radio/flexedge lists are in this bucket, but I don't know how well it works. There's lots of other factors at play in that particular list/forum arena. (And, of course, the biggies like Apple, Dell, HP, etc, are notorious for removing posts that are uncomfortable) Personally, I like email lists, because I am an old codger at the age of 50 and prefer a gentle push rather than having to pull from a forum. It's like reading the morning newspaper (which I did just before writing this!) The only time it's a pain is when I'm on travel for an extended period of time, because it's worse going through hundreds of emails (from all sources) at a crack than seeing them all nicely laid out. I could, I suppose, set up some rules/folders, but that leads to folders of unread list posts, and I'd rather read/delete/read/delete ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Stanley, On 08/25/2010 08:30 AM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: You can use www.timenuts.com to reach my forum, I can be reached here or there and several other places, all are welcome. I don't think it is a wise idea to create a forum. Don't expect me to participate. I don't think it is a wise idea to use time-nuts as name and DNS domain without John Ackermann's explicit approval. Best Regards, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Magnus Danielson wrote: Stanley, On 08/25/2010 08:30 AM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: You can use www.timenuts.com to reach my forum, I can be reached here or there and several other places, all are welcome. I don't think it is a wise idea to create a forum. Don't expect me to participate. I don't think it is a wise idea to use time-nuts as name and DNS domain without John Ackermann's explicit approval. Best Regards, Magnus Yeah, it probably isn't a good idea to poach on a lawyer's trademarks. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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On 26 August 2010 06:37, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: Stanley, On 08/25/2010 08:30 AM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: You can use www.timenuts.com to reach my forum, I can be reached here or there and several other places, all are welcome. I don't think it is a wise idea to create a forum. Don't expect me to participate. I don't think it is a wise idea to use time-nuts as name and DNS domain without John Ackermann's explicit approval. Best Regards, Magnus Yeah, it probably isn't a good idea to poach on a lawyer's trademarks. Is he trading under that name? Steve -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Steve Rooke wrote: Magnus Yeah, it probably isn't a good idea to poach on a lawyer's trademarks. Is he trading under that name? Steve Sure ! By providing an Email list service under that name. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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On 26 August 2010 07:09, WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net wrote: Steve Rooke wrote: Magnus Yeah, it probably isn't a good idea to poach on a lawyer's trademarks. Is he trading under that name? Steve Sure ! By providing an Email list service under that name. But he makes no money out of this so you could not argue that his business is impacted. American: first resort, litigation. Englishman: last resort, going to court. American: first resort, war. Englishman: last resort, show of military strength. Steve BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Steve, That is true, but money is not everything and the argument of detriment to one's good name could be made. BillWB6BNQ Steve Rooke wrote: On 26 August 2010 07:09, WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net wrote: Steve Rooke wrote: Magnus Yeah, it probably isn't a good idea to poach on a lawyer's trademarks. Is he trading under that name? Steve Sure ! By providing an Email list service under that name. But he makes no money out of this so you could not argue that his business is impacted. American: first resort, litigation. Englishman: last resort, going to court. American: first resort, war. Englishman: last resort, show of military strength. Steve BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Bill, On 26 August 2010 12:27, WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net wrote: Steve, That is true, but money is not everything and the argument of detriment to one's good name could be made. I don't see how this can be of detriment to one's good name? 73, Steve BillWB6BNQ -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Stanley, to add to what you already have, I'd recommend: Rb Standards Cs Standards Other Oscillators GPS Test Equipment and always a good one... Getting Started. 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:50 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Whats the reason and motive for this ? On 8/24/2010 8:50 PM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Personal Preference, Restrictions with the mail list format, would like a better way to search content. Stanley - Original Message From: Brian Kirby kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:36:24 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Whats the reason and motive for this ? On 8/24/2010 8:50 PM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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We'll good luck and happy trails...In respect for John Ackermann's work and the TAPR list that time-nuts originated from, you should be considerate and pick a different name. Brian Kirby - KD4FM On 8/24/2010 9:43 PM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: Personal Preference, Restrictions with the mail list format, would like a better way to search content. Stanley - Original Message From: Brian Kirbykilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:36:24 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Whats the reason and motive for this ? On 8/24/2010 8:50 PM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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I think Manuals would be a great addition; however, there are already so many places to download them and so many manuals out there... maybe a sticky list of sources would be best. Microprocessors gets a bit off topic as *everyone* has an opinion and their own favorite. That said... Time/Frequency Measurement Programming kept general could be decent as long as everyone didn't start posting thousands of lines of PIC code asking why it doesn't work. Know what I mean? - Original Message - From: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, If you could siphon off the dead horse topics like the best microprocessor, the best instrument, and phase noise measurement you would do this list a great service. Fielding the newbies questions, and requests for manuals for obscure instruments would also be great. When this list was much smaller, we talked about how the measurement of the properties of time could be extended. List members had gotten past the common topics. tvb was a regular contributor. Now the noise level is rather high, and we've gotten our first no subject query. When you wish for growth, be careful what you wish for. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Stanley Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:44 PM Personal Preference, Restrictions with the mail list format, would like a better way to search content. Stanley - Original Message From: Brian Kirby kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:36:24 PM Whats the reason and motive for this ? On 8/24/2010 8:50 PM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Stanley, It seems to me that we already have/had one somewhere [ ? ] or it was proposed and started but did not get off the ground [ ? ] However, I could be wrong or seriously confused. The nature of the timenuts list was supposed to be a low key - low noise list, not a beginners QA service and project workout. If you do get started and flying, perhaps your forum could handle that beginners QA service and the, sometimes, large load of the project traffic. I agree with Brian Kirby concerning respecting the Timenuts title and so forth. John Ackermann has put a lot of time and effort into the basis of the Timenuts list, not to mention the expense of hosting and maintaining the list and its archives. The Timenuts moniker, while recognized and respected internationally, is a form of prior art and may well constitute a form of copyright. I would suggest that not only is it proper to ask him his feelings but may require his permission for use of his list moniker. BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Stanley, I was under the impression you already had the permission of the *founders* to use the time-nuts name to start up this new forum. Was I mistaken? 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, It seems to me that we already have/had one somewhere [ ? ] or it was proposed and started but did not get off the ground [ ? ] However, I could be wrong or seriously confused. The nature of the timenuts list was supposed to be a low key - low noise list, not a beginners QA service and project workout. If you do get started and flying, perhaps your forum could handle that beginners QA service and the, sometimes, large load of the project traffic. I agree with Brian Kirby concerning respecting the Timenuts title and so forth. John Ackermann has put a lot of time and effort into the basis of the Timenuts list, not to mention the expense of hosting and maintaining the list and its archives. The Timenuts moniker, while recognized and respected internationally, is a form of prior art and may well constitute a form of copyright. I would suggest that not only is it proper to ask him his feelings but may require his permission for use of his list moniker. BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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No, all my idea, I have not asked anyone's permission. I meant no disrespect. Stanley - Original Message From: Heathkid heath...@heathkid.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 11:26:21 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, I was under the impression you already had the permission of the *founders* to use the time-nuts name to start up this new forum. Was I mistaken? 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, It seems to me that we already have/had one somewhere [ ? ] or it was proposed and started but did not get off the ground [ ? ] However, I could be wrong or seriously confused. The nature of the timenuts list was supposed to be a low key - low noise list, not a beginners QA service and project workout. If you do get started and flying, perhaps your forum could handle that beginners QA service and the, sometimes, large load of the project traffic. I agree with Brian Kirby concerning respecting the Timenuts title and so forth. John Ackermann has put a lot of time and effort into the basis of the Timenuts list, not to mention the expense of hosting and maintaining the list and its archives. The Timenuts moniker, while recognized and respected internationally, is a form of prior art and may well constitute a form of copyright. I would suggest that not only is it proper to ask him his feelings but may require his permission for use of his list moniker. BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Stanley, how about the TIME-GURU name? -Original Message- From: Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 6:44 am Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum No, all my idea, I have not asked anyone's permission. I meant no disrespect. Stanley - Original Message rom: Heathkid heath...@heathkid.com o: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com ent: Tue, August 24, 2010 11:26:21 PM ubject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, I was under the impression you already had the permission of the *founders* to se the time-nuts name to start up this new forum. Was I mistaken? 73 Brice KA8MAV - Original Message - From: WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net o: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com ent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:05 AM ubject: Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum Stanley, It seems to me that we already have/had one somewhere [ ? ] or it was proposed and started but did not get off the ground [ ? ] However, I could be wrong or seriously confused. The nature of the timenuts list was supposed to be a low key - low noise list, not a beginners QA service and project workout. If you do get started and flying, perhaps your forum could handle that beginners QA service and the, sometimes, large load of the project traffic. I agree with Brian Kirby concerning respecting the Timenuts title and so forth. John Ackermann has put a lot of time and effort into the basis of the Timenuts list, not to mention the expense of hosting and maintaining the ist and its archives. The Timenuts moniker, while recognized and respected internationally, is a form of prior art and may well constitute a form of copyright. I would suggest that not only is it proper to ask him his feelings but may require his permission for use of his list moniker. BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. __ ime-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com o unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts nd follow the instructions there. __ ime-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com o unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts nd follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com wrote: Personal Preference, Restrictions with the mail list format, would like a better way to search content. I don't think that a webforum will add any additional value that the mailinglist doesnt have already. It definitly isn't easier to search, nor is it easier to discuss anything. A mediocre mail client is better than any webforum i've ever seen (no, yahoo webmail doesn't even count as a bad mail client). If you want to have different topics collected and a one-stop reference website, i'd suggest using a wiki instead. Attila Kinali -- Why does it take years to find the answers to the questions one should have asked long ago? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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On 25 August 2010 17:43, erniepe...@aol.com wrote: Stanley, how about the TIME-GURU name? Or how about:- time-sane time-slow time-not-so-nuts time-nuts-beginners time-nuts-non-exclusive time-nuts-not-bruce time-for-a-change time-stupid-questions or even:- time-nuts-excluded We are in danger of ending up with a TekScopes2 group here and do we really want to fork the group. Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
