[time-nuts] Good scopes under $40 was Thunderbolt, Rb,

2010-05-21 Thread Robert Atkinson


--- On Fri, 21/5/10, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote:


From: Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt, Rb,
To: warrensjmail-...@yahoo.com
Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Date: Friday, 21 May, 2010, 6:52



 Tomorrow, the school demo will be a paper scope made out of a yard  stick, a
 marker, and wall-chart paper: one student holds the oscillating  yard stick,
 a second pulls the paper steadily, and a third times it.   Afterward, they
 count peaks and divide by time.

Neat.  Scopes are fun.

The Exploratorium has a nice exhibit.  It's setup to look like a giant guitar 
so you start off with the idea of strings vibrating.  Some of the frets are 
white lines on a drum you can rotate.  It works amazingly well.
  http://exs.exploratorium.edu/exhibits/oscylinderscope/


 Next student demo is the scope made out of a laser and hard drive with a
 mirror on the voice coil.

[When was the last time they made hard drives with voice coils?]

What else do they use? Voice coils took over from steppers many years ago when 
servo head travking started. I'm not aware of any alternative.

I

From the initial message
 As part of the SF Bay Area Maker Faire this weekend, I'll be showing a
 Thunderbolt GPSDO and a FE-5680A Rubidium disciplined oscillator, both
 connected to a $25 flea-market oscilloscope. 

Can you really get a useful scope for $25?  What's it like?
 
You can in the UK. I just picked up a old Advance dual trace 20 MHz unit at a 
hamfest for £10 ($15). It was for a work mate to use at home. Works fine and 
even he adamits it will teach him a lot more than the push autoset on a 
digital.  Previous Hamfest I got an HP 1740A 100MHz, dual trace, delay TB etc 
with manual for £25 ($37) for myself (realised i did not have a good analog 
'scope). Have also won an HP 1980B oscilloscope measurement system DSO (HPIB 
contolled) with the 1965A 10 picosecond resolution counter option for £26.65 
($40) For comparison petrol (Gas) just hit $6.93 per US gallon here. it costs 
$100 to fill the wifes Ford Focus!

What's a low end A/D on a USB dongle go for?

Anything with useable software $35

Robert G8RPI.



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Re: [time-nuts] Good scopes under $40 was Thunderbolt, Rb,

2010-05-21 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU



Can you really get a useful scope for $25?  What's it like?
   


It's 30 Mhz dual-trace analog Tek scope, a bit fuzzy looking.  But it 
gets the point across that you don't need a high-end scope to do these 
measurements, just basic skills and thought.


Here's someone who made the hard-drive scope before me:

http://hackedgadgets.com/2006/06/01/making-a-hard-drive-laser-oscilloscope/

Mine has is good up to about 300 Hz.
http://www.youtube.com/user/wa5znu#p/a/u/1/m8D_6AIS7eo

Leigh/WA5ZNU


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