RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Stuart, have you ever noticed that the more radical liberals and
conservatives are, the more than look, act, and think alike.  As a
historian, Rick is right the labeling is grossly over-simplified that defy
shadings, especially since the definition of the terms changes over time
and from place to place.  That is, a liberal of yesteryear is a
conservative today as it a liberal.  Moreover, the terms are used so
selectively from issue to issue.  And then, a person can be conservative
on one issue and liberal on another.  And beyond that, they are terms
whose definition are relative to each other.  Were people to be that
uncomplicated.


Make it a good day.

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Re: The prevention of dissemination of scientific knowledge

2003-08-14 Thread Joel S. Freund
There is a fourth course, which is what many faculty in our department do.
I make a single copy of the article, and place it in folder in a central
location for the class. Each member of the class can then take that copy
and make his or her own copy. (The work of copying is usually shared.
That is, one class member makes copies for all class members and is
reimbursed the costs. This task then rotates across class members.)
Hope this helps.

Joel



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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Wallace E. Dixon, Jr. wrote:

:-) Now I am confronted with three courses of action: 1) not
:-)share the articles with my students, 2) break the copyright law and
:-)distribute the articles anyway, or 3) find some loophole that will
:-)allow my students to get copies of these articles without any of us
:-)breaking the law.

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RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Kelly Amberville
Pathologizing Conservatism:

Why Cal Thomas Is Right to Censure Psychological Researchers, APA

http://www.fireflysun.com/book/leftwingauthoritarian.php

K.


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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:46:15 -0400

Louis_Schmier wrote:
Any of you tipsters read George Will in the Washington Post this morning?
I suggest you do.  I won't tell you what he says.  I've got my take on it.
I'd like to hear yours.
PAUL K. BRANDON wrote…
The Psych Bull article that Will is referring to is a meta-analysis, with
all the limitations of its breed. Since it's based on a wide variety of
verbal reports of what individuals apparently mostly politicians) say that
they would do or say in a specified situation, it is of limited value.
And Will of course has selectively abstracted parts of the report that
suit his politics.
All in all, I'm more disappointed in Psych Bull in publishing the article
in the first place.
Aubyn writes…
Aside from sharing his staunch conservative opposition to the Designated
Hitter (a position all right thinking baseball fans adopt) I long ago
stopped taking Mr. Will seriously, but I don’t begrudge him responding to,
and even being a little insulted by, the thesis put forward by Jost and
others (including Frank Sulloway) that political conservatives are more
likely to be rigid than liberals. Will is essentially an entertainer these
days, so I also don’t really expect him to give a fair reading of the
article.
If one were to take Will seriously, I think the main dispute I would have
with him is his distortion of Jost’s position on the psychological
determinants of all beliefs. Will fills much of his column with assertions
like the following: “Professors have reasons for their beliefs.  Other
people, particularly conservatives, have social and psychological
explanations for their beliefs” and “ The professors have ideas; the rest
of us have emanations of our psychological needs and neuroses” and “…the
professors, who do not say that their judgments arise from social
situations or emotional needs rather than reason”. While Jost et. al. do
argue that conservatives are more likely to be rigid and uncomfortable
with ambiguity, they specifically are not arguing what Will attributes to
them repeatedly, that only conservative beliefs are motivated by
non-rational processes.  Note this passage, only partially quoted by Will:
“Our first assumption, too, is that conservative ideologies—like virtually
all other belief systems—are adopted in part because they satisfy some
psychological needs. This does not mean that conservatism is pathological
or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false, irrational, or
unprincipled.” Will chops the quote up, and exaggerates the emphasis on
the phrase “necessarily false” to make it [inaccurately] seem that Jost is
really exempting liberal beliefs from non-rational motivation.
I don’t understand Dr. Brandon’s disappointment with Psych Bull for
publishing the article – unless he is disappointed with all published
reports of meta-analysis (which would make him one disappointed
psychologist indeed). There is a long and broad literature on the
psychology of political ideology, and it seems appropriate for Psych Bull
to publish a review of this literature from time to time. Jost and company
state up front that whether or not conservative ideology is uniquely
linked to the set of psychological needs and motives they suggest is an
empirical question, and they use acceptable empirical methods to support
their answer. Psych Bull also published a response to Jost et. al. that
argues in the alternative – that the rigid avoidance of ambiguity is not
uniquely associated with conservatives, but is an attribute of ideological
extremists of all kinds. Jost then replies with their explanation of why
they think this is not true, and that conservatives really are uniquely
rigid. I don’t know that these articles will be the last word on this
topic, and it is certainly possible to disagree with elements of both, but
from what I can tell they seem to be of a type and quality that is
consistent with the scope and mission of Psych Bull. Maybe next time they
will publish a review of research on the motivations of liberal ideology.
What would really be disappointing is if Psych Bull were to allow
political and popular pressures and criticisms discourage them from
publishing potentially controversial articles.
Here are the full citations for anyone interested in reading the articles
for themselves:
Political conservatism as motivated social cognition. By Jost, John T.;
Glaser, Jack; Kruglanski, Arie W.; Sulloway, Frank J. Psychological
Bulletin. 2003 May Vol 129(3) 339-375
Psychological and political orientation--The left, the right, and the
rigid: Comment on Jost et al. (2003). By Greenberg, Jeff; Jonas, 

wormy advice

2003-08-14 Thread Beth Benoit
Advice from a sadder but wiser TIPSter:

I've just spent hours and hours - since Monday night - getting rid of the
newest computer worm, blaster, and have advice for anyone who hasn't
gotten it yet.  (This unlovely worm shuts your computer down on its own,
then reboots it.  It's a terrible nuisance, and the hardest is that it stays
on for shorter and shorter periods of time, so while you're trying to find
how to rid your computer of it, it closes Windows and shuts down.)  I had
Norton Anti-virus, updated, but while it found I was infected with the worm,
it had no solution.

If you haven't gotten it, RACE your fingers to the microsoft.com website and
download the patch which was developed last week.  (If you have a Macintosh,
count your blessings.  You can ignore all this panic.)

And IF you already have this problem (you can usually read emails for a few
minutes before it shuts down), go to symantec.com, grab the Fix Blast
program (it's prominently displayed) and SAVE it.  It gives you instructions
about how to install your firewall (from your control panel) while you load
the de-worming program.  Then turn off your modem, since that seems to slow
the system shutdown.  After you've dewormed your computer (takes about half
an hour or more) be sure to go to microsoft.com and install the patch so you
don't get reinfected.

Hope this saves some of you the nuisance I've been through.  Even the
newspaper story about it this morning didn't give the solution I finally
found after my computer shut itself down at least a hundred times while I
searched for an answer.  (And I'm buying stock in Symantec.)

Beth Benoit
University System of New Hampshire






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Re: The prevention of dissemination of scientific knowledge

2003-08-14 Thread Christopher D. Green
Wallace E. Dixon, Jr. wrote:

 I must be daft, but I would've thought since the major
 Kinko's lawsuit several years ago, publishers of scientific journals
 would've placed a greater value on the dissemination of scientific
 knowledge than on revenue enhancement, and would've adjusted their
 copyright policies accordingly.  Maybe some publishers do, but not
 the APA.  I will  need to be edified about the underlying rationale
 for why scientific journals find it useful to place obstacles in the
 free and unfettered dissemination of scientific knowledge, because I
 can't see it.  Anyone who can straighten me out, please do.
 So here's the deal.  As you may remember from my last
 request, I am trying to gather provocative and exciting articles
 published in the scientific literature to accompany a textbook for my
 graduate research methods class.  I found at least two dozen very
 cool articles in the American Psychologist.  Being rule-minded as I
 am, I checked their copyright policy.  I did this pro-forma because I
 had assumed that APA would be at the cutting-edge about publication
 policy for the distribution of their copyrighted articles for use in
 academic courses.

On the contrary, APA is two-to-five years behind the curve of even the more 
conservative
academic publishers outside of psychology. Of course, in high-energy physics, vritually
everything has been on-line *FOR FREE* at http://www.arXiv.org/ for more than a decade 
now.
The journals, which are still owned by scholarly societies rather than by major 
commercial
publishers, hardly made a peep. You might think that APA, as a scholarly society 
would have
followed suit, but the fact is that APA is so dependent on publication income for its 
various
expensive projects that it has effectively become a commercial publisher. Since then, 
the APA
has dragged its feet on virtually every electronic publishing inititative. First it 
wouldn't
publish electronically. Then it created a single eletronic journal and disingenuously
declared it to be no cheaper to produce and distribute than print journals (because 
they
included the capital costs of commissioning complicated and unnecessary software to 
assist
editors in routing manuscripts to reviewers, etc.  Meanwhile Stevan Harnad  -- who ran 
both
_Behavioral and Brain Sciences_ and the electronic _Psycoloquy_ for a number of years 
--
estimated the savings at about 70%).  Then they started posting HTML copies of their 
journals
on the web, but did such a bad job (no page numbers for citation, images rarely 
appeared
properly) that few would purchase it. Then they started converting to .pdf but they 
charge
libraries nearly as much for the electronic version as for the paper versions, so most
libraries have to *choose* which they want. APA sent out a card to their authors a 
couple
years ago telling them that anything posted to the web would be regarded as having been
previously published and rejected by their journals automatically. They have 
gradually
relaxed that policy to saying that authors can post a copy on their personal websites, 
but
not on third party sites (like Harnard's CogPrints and my own History  Theory of 
Psycholgy
Eprint Archive -- http://htprints.yorku.ca/ ).

By contrast, _Science_ and _Nature_, both of whom were highly resistant to electronic
publication early on, have begun making their articles available on-line *FOR FREE* 
6-12 mos.
after their initial publication. Elsevier, who was demonized for their attitutde toward
electronic publication early on, is now offering electronic versions for a much 
reduced rate
to print subscribers.  In addition, there is a whole movement of electronic-only 
journals in
biomedicine that are competing head to head with traditional print journals (Biomed 
Central).

For more information, see Stevan Harnad's personal website, where he has many, many 
articles
on the topic available for free on-line.

Regards,
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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 But you know what happens when you assume!  Not
 only am I not allowed to copy and distribute more than a single APA
 article to my students freely, but I have to pay 35 cents per page
 per student.  This figure came from the Copyright Clearance Center.
 Now I am confronted with three courses of action: 1) not
 share the articles with my students, 2) break the copyright law and
 distribute the articles anyway, or 3) find some loophole that will
 allow my students to get copies of these articles without any of us
 breaking the law.
 I am writing to TIPS to follow up on the third option.  Have
 any of you found ways of accomplishing this objective without
 becoming a criminal?

 Wally Dixon

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Teaching Conference on the Intro Course

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Hill
Taking Off: Best Practices in Teaching Introductory Psychology
Atlanta (GA) Marriott Northwest
September 26-27, 2003

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RE: Tips on Tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Keefer, Robert P.

To add one more twist, I am lucky enough to have spent the spring
semester in London.  In England, tipping is often frowned upon!  One
magazine article I read while there bemoaned the practice of tipping,
blaming the influx of American tourists and American ideas about paying
servers.  Wait staff in the UK have apparently not been paid with tips
'figured in' as they are here, and the article complained that that was
all changing.  A tip for great service in London was 10%, with some
leaving less or even nothing, depending the restaurant (here I always
tip 20%, as I spent 6 summers during high school and college working in
a restaurant).

bob k.

Robert Keefer
Psychology Department
Mount St. Mary's College
Emmitsburg, MD  21727
[speaking for myself]



 -Original Message-
 From: Scott C. Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:54 AM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
 Subject: RE: Tips on Tipping
 
 Patrick O. Dolan pondered:
 
  Huh. Interesting topic!  When I lived in an area where tax was
~7-8%,
  people used the heuristic of doubling the tax and adjusting from
  there.  I calculate 10%, double it, and go from there.  As an aside,
  my experience over the past ~5 years is that 15% is a minimum and
  closer to 20% is more typical.  Is that just the 25-35 set I spend
  time with?
 
 Interestingly, I've not come across any data on tipping by demographic
 group (my mother is generally aghast at the 20% I generally put down).
 What I've seen in the literature is that the relationship between
 wait-staff performance and tip size (as proportion of bill) is a bit
 blurry. For instance, while Lynn and Latane (1984) found tipping
 unrelated to service quality (based on customer interviews), Bennett
 (1983) found that accurate memory of cocktail waitresses (a measure of
 performance, no?) led to higher customer satisfaction and tipping.
 
 In teaching large intro psychology, I often preface my discussion of
 tipping by asking who has worked or currently works in a food service
 industry; there are always plenty of student who have (or do). It
turns
 out that for people who work in the industry there ARE heuristics
(word
 choice?) for which customers tip and which don't: age is perceived to
be
 a big factor, as is size of the party (as these go up, tips go down).
I
 always end up asking the class what other factors they think could
 possibly lead to differences: sex? ethnicity? language? dress?
 
 I have no data, but I've used this to introduce social-psych in my
 intro-psych classes for some time and it ALWAYS generates good
 discussion and allows me to pin useful material back to the examples
 (stereotyping, prejudice, conformity (as resisted by Professor
 Coleman!), social facilitation/interference, social norms, even group
 polarization/groupthink and, if considered from the perspective of the
 wait-staff, self-fulfilling prophecy).
 
 It hadn't occurred to me that this as useful (pedagogically) as it is:
I
 always just 'did it.' Does anybody think that this, as an exercise, is
 worthy of a Journal Teaching of Psych submission? Would anybody like
to
 implement it, collect some data, and pursue this as a
 project/publication? Let me know.
 
 Scott
 
  Lynn, M. and Latane, B. (1984). The psychology of restaurant
 tipping. Journal of Applied Social Psychology, 14(6), Nov-Dec 1984.
pp.
 549-561.
 
  Bennett, H. L. (1983). Remembering drink orders: The memory
skills
 of cocktail waitresses. Human Learning: Journal of Practical Research

 Applications, 2(2), Apr-Jun 1983. pp. 157-169.
 
 
 
 Scott C. Bates, Ph.D.
 Assistant Professor
 Department of Psychology
 Utah State University
 (435) 797 - 2975
 
 
 
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Re: Tips on Tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Patrick O. Dolan
Huh. Interesting topic!  When I lived in an area where tax was ~7-8%,
people used the heuristic of doubling the tax and adjusting from
there.  I calculate 10%, double it, and go from there.  As an aside,
my experience over the past ~5 years is that 15% is a minimum and
closer to 20% is more typical.  Is that just the 25-35 set I spend
time with?

Patrick

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- Original Message -
From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: Tips on Tipping


 As I think the original request was for common behaviors that can be
related
 to psychological topics, I think the question of how one figures a
standard
 tip is also interesting. I see people using little tip tables that
give
 15% of various amounts in table form, but without such a table, how
one
 represents the problem can make a big difference in problem
difficulty.
 We're taught to figure things like this by multiplying the total
bill by
 .15, and we're taught to do problems like that using a complicated
 algorithm* that amounts to manipulation of symbols. That algorithm
is too
 complicated for most of us to do mentally, without at least writing
down
 intermediate answers, something which is often not possible when
figuring a
 tip (due to lack of pencil and paper).

 But there are other ways to figure 15% besides that kind of symbol
 manipulation. I usually figure 10% (simply by moving over the
decimal point
 mentally), and then figure (again, mentally) half of that number
(which is
 then 5% of the total), and then (yet again mentally) add the two.
 Alternatively, one could figure 10%, and then 20% (simply by
doubling the
 10%) and then figure the halfway mark between those two numbers (I
haven't
 used that method, and I don't know if it would be too taxing for
me).

 I'll bet there are other ways that people use besides these, and I'd
think
 they might lead to an interesting discussion of the role of mental
 representation in mathematical problem solving. Most Introductory
texts have
 a chapter on Language, Thinking, and Problem Solving where the
relevant
 material would be found. I suspect that most of the people who still
try to
 use the symbol manipulation algorithm in the tipping context also
believe
 that symbol manipulation method they've been taught IS
multiplication, and
 don't realize that it's just one of many devices for finding the
answer to
 multiplication problems.

 * Okay, class, remember, start by multiplying the ones column, and
write
 your answer below the ones column, carrying any tens you get up to
the top
 of the tens column. Then take the tens column from the first
multiplicand
 times the ones column from the second...

 Paul Smith
 Alverno College
 Milwaukee


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RE: A Scary Non- Realization

2003-08-14 Thread Gary Klatsky
Louis

Based on your private responses to me, and I am told to many others as
well, you seem to take all criticisms off - line. Your posts are to a public
forum and Herb has made a public response to your public post. Given the
responses you tend to generate, I for one would like to see these
discussions continue on-line.  If you don't want to participate in a public
discussion of your random thoughts maybe you should post them to a website
and not to a public forum. That way you can limit the exposure of any
comments you receive.


Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.

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All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and
justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and
honest good will exert upon events in the political field.
Albert Einstein

 -Original Message-
From:   Louis_Schmier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:06 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject:Re:A Scary Non- Realization

Herb, I'm going to reply off-list as I have been doing with others and not
take up time and space of others.


Make it a good day.

   --Louis--


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Re: Tips on Tipping: gender difference?

2003-08-14 Thread J L Edwards
Any literature on who leaves bigger tips? I've heard women do, but have no
data to support this assertion. Any data on age? Race? etc.?

Jean Edwards



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re:Re: UGGGGHHH random thoughts

2003-08-14 Thread Charles Fox
Thank You Rick  Paul I am asking that:

 It makes a lot of sense to trim the quotations (as I did in this
 message, above), but eliminating them completely makes the response 
rather
 hard to follow for those who don't use the digest format, and thus 
don't
 have the original message available to them to refer to. Common 
practice
 is to quote back only the amount of text necessary to:

	1. Indicate clearly what is being responded to.

	2. Insure that the *intent* of the author, instead of just his or
 her words, is carried forward (e.g., no attempt should be made to
 selectively edit the quotes).

It seems to me that people are quoting the entire message and when I 
receive the digest form I am wading though volumes of text (e.g., one 
of the 'random thoughts')  to get to the responses.

Also - another comment on the 'random thought' posting - I do not know 
Louis or his history here, nor for that matter the history of this list 
(I'm new here) - but one of his posts referenced a website and the 
website had lots of random thought postings as well as an advertisement 
for his 2 books. Interestingly, the web page states that he is a 
professor of history not psychology. Should we be asking  ourselves and 
whomever moderates the listserv if his postings actually serve the 
purpose of the group? We should ask the question do they rather serve 
as advertisement for his website and books. If the answer is yes, then 
perhaps the individuals of this list serve would be better served by 
going to his website and reading his books rather than having him post 
his 'random thoughts' here.

Just my 'random thought'.



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Re: website suggestions

2003-08-14 Thread Retta Poe


Hetzel, Rod wrote:


 Does anyone know of any good websites for helping college students improve 
 relationships?  I'm giving a presentation on developing and deepening relationships 
 and am looking for some practical, skills-based suggestions for students who will be 
 in attendance.  Thanks!


Rod -
Take a look at this site maintained at the University of Chicago: 
http://counseling.uchicago.edu/vpc/virtulets.html

Retta
--
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Associate Dean for Academic Programs
   College of Education and Behavioral Sciences
Professor of Psychology
Western Kentucky University
1 Big Red Way
Bowling Green, Ky. 42101

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Re: wormy advice

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Beth, if anyone is running 98, they're safe from the worm.  Think of the
upside.  You can always use the worm to go fishing.


Make it a good day.

   --Louis--


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Tips

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Black
From that website that Cheri  Budzynski recently recommended about 
tipping at www.people.cornell.edu/pages/wml3/tipping_information.htm 
(from a Canadian CBC TV programme about tipping)

What's the difference between a Canadian and a canoe?



Answer: a canoe tips.


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Re: Tips on Tipping: gender difference?

2003-08-14 Thread J L Edwards
Well, Herb, let's start with restaurants. No cafeterias, fast food, street
vendors, buffets, etc. And it's sunny weather. Who tips more: male diners or
female diners.

Jean


- Original Message - 
From: Herb Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: Tips on Tipping: gender difference?


 
 
 Subject: Re: Tips on Tipping: gender difference?
 From: J L Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:55:30 -0500
 X-Message-Number: 8
 
 Any literature on who leaves bigger tips? I've heard women do, but have
no
 data to support this assertion. Any data on age? Race? etc.?
 
 Jean Edwards
 

 Well , Jean,  as my dissertation chair is fond of saying, you need to
 narrow your question.  There are many different tipping situations and
 scenarios.  For example I recall years ago on Oprah (ok, so now you
 know) they mentioned how much people tipped hair dressers.  I'd never
 heard of this (I guess that's because I'm testosterone enhanced--read
 folliclely challenged--and have not been to a barber since my undergrad
 days).  I previously mentioned the various baggage handlers, then there
 are doormen (do women ever do this job?), baby-sitters, food and other
 delivery people, and let's not for those who receive the most and
 biggest tips, dancers and escorts.

 So, before we can gather accurate data on who leaves bigger tips we
 need to confine the tipping arena an then determine if the dependent
 variable is the raw amount or a proportion of the basic cost of the
service.

 Just my thoughts (I didn't want to say my $0.02 because I was told that
 was an insult as a tip).

 -- 

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 IT Manager, Rio Grande Campus
 Adjunct Psychology Professor
 Austin Community College
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Re: involvement in student's lives

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
When I'm invited to a party, be it a private one or a sorority/fraternity,
like Paul, even if other faculty and administrators are also invited and
attending I'm hesitant to accept.  One major reason is that I don't feel I
can be at a party where some of the students who are consuming alcohol are
probably going to be underage.  When I invite students to my house, not
knowing their ages, it is strictly non-alcoholic.  Similarly, when I take
them out for a pizza--has to do with one of the projects--the drinks are
strictly non-alcoholic.  I feel that wherever I go, my position as an
agent of the University and State of Georgia goes with me.


Make it a good day.

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RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Aubyn Fulton
Paul wrote…
(SNIP) You are correct that I have problems with meta-analyses in general.
In the medical field, there have been a number of cases where meta 
analyses based on large numbers of small studies have reached  different
conclusions from later rigorous large studies. Much is dependent on the
choices made by the authors in setting  selection criteria and
categorizing the individual studies. (SNIP)

BTW-- a literature review is not the same as a meta analysis.

Aubyn writes…
It seems fair to say that there are good and bad meta-analyses. We like
the good ones, and the bad ones, not so much. We sometimes disagree about
which are good and bad, which is one reason most of us have jobs.

A literature review is not the same as a meta-analysis, but many
meta-analyses are literature reviews. Psych Bull publishes reviews of the
psychological literature, and many of these use meta-analysis. I don’t
find that particularly disappointing, unless they publish bad
meta-analyses. You mentioned that you were disappointed that Psych Bull
published the meta-analytic review of the literature on the psychology of
political ideology, but I am still not clear what disappoints you about
it. Do you think that it is a particularly bad meta-analysis, or do you
think that all meta-analyses are bad, or do you think that political
ideology is not an appropriate subject for psychological study? Sulloway
has published some interesting and controversial meta-analyses in the past
of course, and perhaps you note something in his approach that is not up
to snuff? I am about as far from a statistical guru as there is likely to
be on this list, so I may well have missed the weaknesses in this
particular attempt at meta-analysis.

Rick wrote…
I am not a political scientist but I have friends who are political
scientists and I just wonder if anyone else has had the not-so-brilliant
thought that the whole left-wing/right-wing dichotomy in political science
is way too oversimplified (SNIP). There are many problems with a simple
left/right dichotomy and I can't believe political scientists haven't
figured this out yet. If they have, they are keeping it a secret from the
rest of us (including the psychologists who study political motivations).

Aubyn writes…
I think most political scientists are well aware that the left/right
dichotomy is an oversimplification. Several earlier posters on this thread
have noted that this has been well understood by political psychologists
at least as far back as Eysenck (and I think even Adorno and Allport and
friends would have recognized the same insight). The Psych Bull article
that Will commented on in his Sunday column, and that sparked this thread,
spent substantial time operationalizing their definition of conservative,
and the response in the same edition pushed the definitional issues
further. I did not read anything in the article that implied that all
conservatives believe, and are motivated, by one set of things, and all
liberals believe, and are motivated, by a different set. In fact the
authors several times explicitly note the plurality of motivations for all
beliefs. They do argue that at the heart of conservativism is a resistance
to change and an acceptance of inequality – this may or may not be true
(which is part of why the exchange in Psych Bull was of interest) but
seems worthy of discussion and empirical and theoretical review.

It would be an oversimplification to say that there are only two kinds of
humans – male and female, and that men are from Mars and women from Venus.
But it would not be true to say that the dizzying complexity of human
nature precludes any useful study of possible differences between men and
women. Likewise, it seems that it would be a gross oversimplification to
say that there are only two kinds of political thought – liberal or
conservative. But it seems equally unhelpful to deny a priori that there
are any valid distinctions that can be made between liberals and
conservatives



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Professor of Psychology
Chair, Behavioral Science Department
Pacific Union College
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Re: school psych programs in ny

2003-08-14 Thread Miguel Roig

I don't know how accurate or up to date this list is, but go to
http://www.education.umd.edu/EDCP/programs/CDSPP/program.html
for a listing by state.
Miguel

At 03:30 PM 8/13/2003 -0400, you wrote:
I have been working with a former student on doctoral applications for next year. Does anyone have information on school psych programs in New York State.

Laura Talamo
Great Neck North High School


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RE: school psych programs in ny

2003-08-14 Thread Gary Klatsky
Thanks for the words of support. Although the school psych program at Oswego
is very good, it is only a Master's.  A quick look at SUNY showed Buffalo
and Albany as the only campuses that offer a Ph D in School Psych.  If you
search make sure you look at counseling and education programs, not
psychology.

Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.

Department of Psychology[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and
justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and
honest good will exert upon events in the political field.
Albert Einstein

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Subject:Re: school psych programs in ny

S.U.N.Y., College at Oswego has a good program (and it's a nice place to

spend a few years... i.e., on the shores of Lake Ontario... GREAT

sunsets!... but LOTS of snow)



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Re: wormy advice

2003-08-14 Thread Beth Benoit
Yes, as I said, Macintosh (Apple) users need not panic.  And further
research, after Louis' response, I found that the following Windows users
are vulnerable:
Windows XP,Windows NT, Windows ME/2000, Windows 2003

Beth Benoit
University System of New Hampshire

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Subject: Re: wormy advice


 But note:  this only directly affects Windows machines.

 Advice from a sadder but wiser TIPSter:
 
 I've just spent hours and hours - since Monday night - getting rid of the
 newest computer worm, blaster, and have advice for anyone who hasn't
 gotten it yet.  (And I'm buying stock in Symantec.)

 Or Apple?

 Beth Benoit
 University System of New Hampshire

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Re: Tips on Tipping: gender difference?

2003-08-14 Thread Herb Coleman


Subject: Re: Tips on Tipping: gender difference?
From: J L Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:55:30 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8
Any literature on who leaves bigger tips? I've heard women do, but have no
data to support this assertion. Any data on age? Race? etc.?
Jean Edwards

Well , Jean,  as my dissertation chair is fond of saying, you need to 
narrow your question.  There are many different tipping situations and 
scenarios.  For example I recall years ago on Oprah (ok, so now you 
know) they mentioned how much people tipped hair dressers.  I'd never 
heard of this (I guess that's because I'm testosterone enhanced--read 
folliclely challenged--and have not been to a barber since my undergrad 
days).  I previously mentioned the various baggage handlers, then there 
are doormen (do women ever do this job?), baby-sitters, food and other 
delivery people, and let's not for those who receive the most and 
biggest tips, dancers and escorts.  

So, before we can gather accurate data on who leaves bigger tips we 
need to confine the tipping arena an then determine if the dependent 
variable is the raw amount or a proportion of the basic cost of the service.

Just my thoughts (I didn't want to say my $0.02 because I was told that 
was an insult as a tip).

--

Herb Coleman
IT Manager, Rio Grande Campus
Adjunct Psychology Professor
Austin Community College
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Not Sure What to Call This Message

2003-08-14 Thread Gary Klatsky
Louis

If your reread my post, I did not say you should stop participating in this
list. What I said was that if you were unwilling to have a public dialog
about our criticisms of your posts then you probably should not post to a
public list.

The assumption I make when asking a question, responding to another or
engaging in a discussion on this list is that everyone participating in TIPS
are knowledgeable and concerned educators and (with one known exception) are
educated in psychology.  I also realize that each of us, at least those who
have been teaching for a while, has a pedagogy that we have found successful
or we are searching to improve our teaching style.  What works for one
educator may not work for another. I participate on the list to see how
others approach the same problems I may have.   Just because I may not see
the merits of a particular approach is not justification to conclude that
that method is not effective.  The fact that we are members of this list is
an indication that we all take pride in our struggle to be better teachers.

I made the point about the members of the list being educated in psychology
because that education plays a very important part in how we (psychologists)
view the world.  Although some may have a different perspective, the
majority of us have been educated in traditional psychology programs that
provide a framework for how we acquire knowledge about the world.  This
differentiates us from historians.  We are scientists (not social
scientists), and there are specific methods we use that allow us to draw
conclusions and make predictions.  A single case study may be interesting,
may provide the basis for additional research, and may be a reflection of a
generalizable human behavior.  But, in and of itself it will not allow us
(psychologists) to draw a generalizable conclusion.  That is why many
participants of this list bristle when you make broad brushed conclusions
based on a conversation you have had with a former, or current student.
Again, I am not saying those conclusions are incorrect, they are premature.
The foundation to our approach to understanding of the world will not allow
us to draw those conclusions.  And that is what we use as the basis for our
pedagogy.  We can't separate out the content of what we teach from our
teaching.  This isn't nitpicking. This is psychology.

From my perspective, and I think I am approaching this objectively, there
appears to be the proverbial breakdown in communication between you and a
significant number of others on this list.  You keep telling us that we are
misreading you unable to reflect on ourselves).  When a single student
complains that an exam was too difficult I assume that it was most likely a
function of the student' level of understanding. When many students complain
then I take a step backwards and look at what I am doing. Despite the
numerous statements from list members that we find many of your posts
degrading you deflect those comments back at us and say we can't take the
criticism or are misreading you.  I do not see them as displacing our own
shortcomings.Louis, I am not the only one pointing this out, in fact I
have rarely responded to your posts.  For example when I responded to the
request for how to deal with the visually disabled student by pointing out
the law was for reasonable accommodation, your response was that people use
reasonable accommodation as a way of wiggling out of their responsibility.
You didn't indicate that it was your experience at your school or we should
be careful because there is a potential. You made a general pronouncement.
I found that offensive because I have adhered to that approach and have
provided very effective accommodations to my students. I am not wiggling out
of my responsibility to them.  If you step back and look at the
generalizations you are making you might understand why we are responding to
your posts this way. We are big boys and girls and have thick skin as well.
I can take criticism. I don't however like being criticized for something
you assume about me. This isn't nitpicking.  One of the problems with email
is the fact that we become too spontaneous.  There are advantages as well as
disadvantages. Maybe you should spend some time rereading what you are
posting.

Some of the responses to you have been personal attacks and I find that
regrettable. However, from my perspective, those attacks come from a
frustration with your inability to take our criticisms seriously.  Again,
there is no place for personal attacks in this public forum.  Hopefully we
will all learn from this exchange.

Gary




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RE: something odd about human behavior

2003-08-14 Thread Kelly Amberville
dreaming
attraction
spirituality
intuition
feelings
thinking
phobias
fetishes
personality
small group dynamics
attitudes
From: Mark Kunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: something odd about human behavior
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:21:25 -0400

Hi, Jean.  Don't know where Stephen is, and I'm not him, but some examples 
I
use in my Intro classes are:

the myth of crack babies (a good one because they have strong feelings
about this issue, and because internet
  searches readily reveal problems with this construct)
Kissing behavior and various explanations (including the ethological one
about the residue of dogs licking the face to encourage
  regurgitation of the last meal...gets many of them where they live)
helping behavior (small reinforcements like t-shirts work much better than
larger ones like $20 for blood-giving...why?)
Numerous other examples (I sometimes try to tell one from each of the intro
book chapter topics...)
The first day of class I usually tell the story from William Least Heat
Moon's wonderful _Blue Highways_ book about the little boys dangling from
the railroad trestle in pitch darkness, listening to the water rushing 
below
and fearing for their lives, until someone comes along and shines the
flashlight on the ground, a short distance below.
Psychology can be a light shining on that over which we are dangling, so as
to see it new and comforting (and sometimes new and distressing).

Hope that helps,

Mark Kunkel
U West Georgia
Carrollton, GA
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  From: J L Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:05 PM
  To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
  Subject: something odd about human behavior
  Hi again:

  Please don't forget about my earlier request. I'd like to pose students
with a question about human behavior; something commonplace but odd;
something most of us do but we give little thought to; something they might
answer one way, though research findings are the exact opposite.
  I really thought Stephen would come through...where are you Stephen 
Black?

  Jean Edwards
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Tipping on TIPS ;-}

2003-08-14 Thread Herb Coleman


Subject: Re: tipping behavior
From: Gail Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:13:07 -0400
X-Message-Number: 10
Coffee shop employees are not paid a salary and work only for tips.  On the
other hand, fast food employees, as well as other stores whose employees
have a tip container on the counter, work for an hourly wage and have, in
the past, never expected to be tipped.  As a former server, I don't feel the
need to tip employees who earn an hourly wage or who do not offer table side
service -- big difference!
 

I do find this phenomenon interesting.  From a behavioral standpoint, if 
tips means to insure prompt service then that could explain the 
difference in service and service attitude between coffee houses and 
fast food restaurants.  It seems that some on this list have a very 
humanistic approach with concern for how the worker is paid.  I guess I 
tend to operate from a cognitive stand point.  I am not responsible for 
the remuneration arrangements made between the worker and employer.  If 
the situation calls for it (that is I believe I've received excellent 
not just expected service) then I tip.  I try not to let convention or 
others expectations determine if I should tip.  However, I will admit 
that baggage handlers (in hotels, airports and shuttle services) in 
particular seem to be rather coercive in this area.  I find it hard not 
to capitulate.  

I have tipped a a couple of fast food establishments.  Sonic Drive ins 
where the server brings the food to your car and Thunder Cloud Subs 
where they have a tip jar on the counter are tow examples.  I find it 
interesting that Subway offers a similar service to Thunder Clouds but 
there is no tip jar so I've never tipped there.  So from a psychology 
standpoint it may be that the cues of a person bringing food to you or 
the presence of a tip jar are the primary stimuli that result in 
tipping.  I think I hear a study developing .

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Re: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Christopher D. Green
Having scanned the image I mentioned (http://www.yorku.ca/christo/eysenck.gif) I
noticed a couple of things I had forgotten. First, 0-point should be replaced by
mean or midpoint in every instance in my original post (below). Eysenck's scale
didn't set the mean to 0.

Second, and much more interesting, Fascists are (were) actually LESS conservative
than Conservatives, but significantly more tough-minded.

Regards,
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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Christopher D. Green wrote:

 Rick Froman wrote:

  I am not a political scientist but I have friends who are political
  scientists and I just wonder if anyone else has had the not-so-brilliant
  thought that the whole left-wing/right-wing dichotomy in political science
  is way too oversimplified?

 Even within psychology, this thought dates back at least to Hans Eysenck in the
 who published in _Sense and Nonsense in Psychology_ (1958, p. 281) a scale that
 measured political positions in terms of two dimensions: radical-conservative
 and toughminded-tenderminded (borrowing and realigning -- or misusing, depending
 on your point of view -- a couple of terms from William James). Socialists and
 conservatives are both at about the 0-point in the t-t scale but, as one would
 expect, are somwehat (though not extremely) on the radical and conservative
 sides of the r-c dimension, respectively. Traditional liberals (not to be
 confused with the pejorative way that term is used in U.S. political dicourse)
 are at about the 0-point on r-c, but somwhat more tenderminded than either
 socialist or conservatives. Communists and fascists are, as would be expected,
 toward the ends of the r-c scale, respectively, but both are highly toughminded,
 making them as close to each other in political space as they are to any of
 the other positions. (Indeed, as I recall, Eysneck suggests that this is where
 the action is in French politics, at least of the 1950s, which is supposed to
 explain why fascists are more likely to convert to communism, and vice versa,
 than sliding along the obvious dimension of fascism to conservatism to
 liberalism to socialism to communism.)

 I'll scan the plot he gives and post it at
 http://www.yorku.ca/christo/eysenck.gif in a few of minutes.

 No doubt there has been a great deal of development of this kind of
 multidimensional modeling of politica space since then.

 Regards,
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 York University
 Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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  I just had such a thought today when I read
  someone referring to privacy as a liberal issue. It may be but there are a
  lot of right-wing groups that don't want the government involved in their
  business either.
 
  There are many problems with a simple left/right dichotomy and I can't
  believe political scientists haven't figured this out yet. If they have,
  they are keeping it a secret from the rest of us (including the
  psychologists who study political motivations). To start with, there are, of
  course, economic conservatives and liberals and social conservatives and
  liberals so, at least, there are two axes with four quadrants: the two
  well-known ones, Libertarians (who are basically social liberals and
  economic conservatives) and a fourth group of social conservatives and
  economic liberals (which, if they actually exist, seem to be about as
  numerous as Kohlberg's Stage 6 reasoners). To consider fascists or
  communists to be either extremely to the left or to the right of the
  American political spectrum is ludicrous. They seem to be pretty closely
  related (at least in their real life manifestations) to one another. I think
  there may be almost as many dimensions to political thought as there are
  political issues. To tie in another thread, I think such a one-dimensional
  dichotomy is even less likely to shine light on a person's motivations than
  the gender dichotomy or racial distinctions.
 
  Rick
 
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  Subject: RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.
 
  Louis_Schmier wrote:
  Any of you tipsters read George Will in the Washington Post this morning?
  I suggest you do.  I won't tell you what he says.  I've got my take on it.
  I'd like to hear yours.
 
  PAUL K. BRANDON wrote.
  The Psych Bull article that Will is referring to is a 

Arnold and Konrad Lorenz

2003-08-14 Thread sylvestm
 I am beginning to see parallels between Konrad Lorenz and Arnol;d.
They were both born in Austria.THey have an imprinted following:
Lorenz- ducks and Arnold-kids in the inner city.
They both demonstrate the principle of transfer of learning from
a lower order to a global vision.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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Random Thought: Sports In Education

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Not only is the academic season about to begin, so is the sports
season.  Talking about the sports season, I've had something stuck in my
craw for a while that I just have to cough up and spit out.  In these
stringent, cost-cutting economic times when everyone is tightening their
budgetary belt and when everyone is talking about leaving no child
behind, the local high school bragged that it has just constructed a
brand new $100,000 weight room.  Our teachers are not getting a raise, but
the high school boosters raised $100,000 for a first class weight room.
Our teachers have to buy classroom materials out of their own pocket, but
local townspeople paid for a brand spanking new $100,000 weight room out
their own pocket.  The educational budget is being pared down by the Board
of Education, but we have a Class A, $100,000 weight room.  No one is
screaming publically that we don't have a first class educational system,
but everyone is loudly applauding that our $100,000 weight room will give
us a first class football team.  That hit a raw nerve.

On the high school and collegiate levels, coaches violate rule
after rule after rule.  Fans rationalize away, if they don't ignore, minor
and serious infractions.  Coaches and ADs lie on their resumes.  School
administrators turn their heads the other way, if they aren't active
conspirators.  Coaches saddle up to co-eds privately or at riotous
parties.  Faculty offer special considerations to athletes.  Advisers
and tutors wink at or participate in academic irregularities.  Coaches
cut corners to recruit players.  Admission officers bend or suspend
entrance requirements for sought after athletes.  Overzealous boosters
don't know what a rule is when it comes to recruiting and under-the-table
payments to athletes.  Too many others on and off campus seem satisfied or
scared into silently going along to get along.  Too many care more for
their own careers and their own institutional take, and are careless with
the lives of the athletes.  And athletes think they are not subject to the
normal rules of legal, moral, and ethical behavior, and become menaces to
both themselves and others.  What's going on?

Then, I heard the tail end a quick commentary on this subject on
the car radio the other week that got me thinking.  I wrote a letter to
the local newspaper.  In it I said that the answer to my question may be
the rampant adulation of playing a good game rather than the deep
admiration for living a good life, that getting that score on the field is
often more important than getting that score on a test, that making the
grade on the team is more important than getting that grade in class.
There's more concern with what kind of players the athletes are on the
field than with what kind of people they are off the field.  Coaches are
paid big bucks, very big bucks, to win and bring in the big bucks, often
at whatever cost.  They are not paid to develop the character of their
players if it interferes with their players playing.  They are paid to
hone physical skills and talents.  They are not paid to cultivate virtuous
people.  Oh sure, we all know that sports build character.  Lately, I'm
beginning to think sports creates and perpetuates more characters with
weakened if any character than it builds character.  The character traits
the coaches and most everyone else emphasize are usually limited to those
on-the-field no pain, no gain  aspects needed to bring in the roaring
crowds, bring home the championship trophies, and rake in the big bucks:
perseverance, endurance, self-discipline, self-confidence, self-reliance,
dedication, commitment, pursuit of excellence, resilence.

Coaches and their ardent supporters claim that sport enhances
life.  That may be true as far as it goes.  They don't seem concerned with
preparing athletes for life, especially life after sports.  After all, who
is demanding that these on-field character values be taken off-field?
Far too many, coaches seem rarely inclined to value other character values
that make for a good person, a good citizen, a good spouse, a good parent,
a good worker, a good business person, a good government official, a good
friend:  trustworthiness, respect, responsibility, fairness, caring,
honesty, integrity, authenticity, compassion, respectfulness, and
fairness.

Understand that I am not anti-athletics.  To the contrary, in my
collegiate youth I was a student-athlete.  I honestly believe sports have
a role to play in our schools no less than theater or music or art, a
balanced role.  I'll repeat that, a balanced role.  And, I admit that
maybe, probably, I'm stepping into the realm of hyperbole and
overgeneralization.  After all, there's Dean Smith, John Thompson, Coach
K, John Wooden, Joe Paterno, Roy Williams and some others who believe they
must prepare people for life as much as or perhaps more than merely
coaching athletes to win games.  Then, I ask myself, Are they the
exceptions to 

Re: Pastoral Behavioral Engineering

2003-08-14 Thread David Likely


Stephen Black wrote about Skinner's report of Ben Franklin's report on
pastoral behavioral engineering, but Skinner gave no source
-- a search for the words zealous Presbyterian minister Mr.
Beatty turns up:

The Autobiography of Benjamin
Franklin

http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/hst/biography/TheAutobiographyofBenjaminFranklin/chap58.html

-David

An obscure early American (someone named
Benjamin 
Franklin) reported:

We had for our chaplain a zealous Presbyterian minister, Mr.
Beatty, 
who complained to me that the men did not generally attend his 
prayers and exhortations. When they enlisted, they were promised...a

gill of rum a day...
Skinner (shame on him!) never said where this passage appears in 
Franklin's writings.

Reference

Franklin, Benjamin (1969). Operant reinforcement of prayer.
Journal 
 of Applied Behavior Analysis, 2, 247.

Stephen
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RE: something odd about human behavior

2003-08-14 Thread Scott C. Bates
Jean,

Jean Edwards Wrote:
 
 Please don't forget about my earlier request. I'd like to 
 pose students with a question about human behavior; something 
 commonplace but odd; something most of us do but we give 
 little thought to; something they might answer one way, 
 though research findings are the exact opposite.
 
I use tipping behavior (at restaurants) for just such a purpose. I find
it useful for a few reasons. First, there are a variety of interesting
and counter-intuitive findings (smiley-face on a check = higher tip;
crouching down = higher tip; touching = higher tip (plus a predictable
(and entertaining) interaction with sex)). Second, it's something that,
as you say, we do but give little thought to (with the exception of
doing some math). Finally, because it demonstrates a few different
social-psych principles that are easy to grasp and attach to the
behavior (e.g. the reciprocity norm).

Here are a few references:

Crusco, A. H.,  Wetzel, C. G. (1984). The Midas touch: The
effect of interpersonal touch on restaurant tipping. Personality and
Social Psychology Bulletin, 10, 512-517.
Garrity, K.,  Degelmann, D. (1990). Effect of server
introduction on restaurant tipping. Journal of Applied Social
Psychology, 20, 168-172.
Lynn, M.,  Mynier, K. (1993). Effects of server posture on
restaurant tipping.; Journal of Applied Social Psychology, 23, 678-685.
Stephen, R.,  Zweigenhaft, R. L. (1985). The effect on tipping
of a waitress touching male and female customers. The Journal of Social
Psychology, 126, 141-142. 

Also, Cialdini's book Influence: Science and Practice contains a
variety of good ideas for just this sort of thing.

Hope this helps!

Scott



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Re: Pastoral Behavioral Engineering

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Black
On 6 Aug 2003, sylvestm wrote:

  did you hear about the black minister in Louisiana
  who will give $5 and $10 to each white person who attends 
   his church on Sundays and Thursdays?
  Could this be the bridge between Religion and Psychology
  we have been looking for?

It's been done. An obscure early American (someone named Benjamin 
Franklin) reported:

We had for our chaplain a zealous Presbyterian minister, Mr. Beatty, 
who complained to me that the men did not generally attend his 
prayers and exhortations. When they enlisted, they were promised...a 
gill of rum a day...I said to Mr. Beatty: It is, perhaps, below the 
dignity of your profession to act as steward of the rum, but if you 
were to deal it out and only just after prayers, you would have them 
all about you. He liked the tho't, undertook the office and, with 
the help of a few hands to measure out the liquor, executed it to 
satisfaction, and never were prayers more generally and more 
punctually attended...

There are a few curious things about this story. As Franklin died in 
1790, it appears there was a rather lengthy publication delay before 
it appeared in print in 1969. Second, its publication seems to have 
been arranged by another obscure American named B.F. Skinner. But 
Skinner (shame on him!) never said where this passage appears in 
Franklin's writings.

Reference

Franklin, Benjamin (1969). Operant reinforcement of prayer. Journal   
  of Applied Behavior Analysis, 2, 247.

Stephen
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RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Brandon, Paul K
At 1:24 PM -0400 8/10/03, Louis_Schmier wrote:
Any of you tipsters read George Will in the Washington Post this morning?
I suggest you do.  I won't tell you what he says.  I've got my take on it.
I'd like to hear yours.

The Psych Bull article that Will is referring to is a meta-analysis, with all the 
limitations of its breed.
Since it's based on a wide variety of verbal reports of what individuals (apparently 
mostly politicians) say that they would do or say in a specified situation, it is of 
limited value.

And Will of course has selectively abstracted parts of the report that suit his 
politics.

All in all, I'm more disappointed in Psych Bull in publishing the article in the first 
place.

BTW, Louis--
Are you reacting to Will, or to the article he discusses?
Have you read it?

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Re: Very strange email

2003-08-14 Thread Rick Stevens
I received the message from Hong Kong some time ago.  It isn't clear 
just what they want someone to do.  It sounds like they are requesting 
someone to make major structrural changes in their educational system. 
I can't imagine an American, or several Americans, going to China and 
causing major social changes.  However, if they pay $25,000 a month for 
teachers this might be something to look into.

Nina Tarner wrote:

I received the below email and was wondering if anyone on the list
received the same email?  I found it very odd and am not really sure
what they are looking for.
 

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RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Stuart Mckelvie
Dear Louis,

I can't say that I have noticed more homogeneity with more 
radicalism, but it may exist. I do agree, however, that the labels are 
convenient pigeonholes that simplify reality. The harsh reality comes 
when people make a choice at the polling booth. If they vote on the 
basis of party, they are putting themselves in a category ny 
defintition.

Stuart

Date sent:  Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:48:06 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject:RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.
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 Stuart, have you ever noticed that the more radical liberals and
 conservatives are, the more than look, act, and think alike.  As a
 historian, Rick is right the labeling is grossly over-simplified that defy
 shadings, especially since the definition of the terms changes over time
 and from place to place.  That is, a liberal of yesteryear is a
 conservative today as it a liberal.  Moreover, the terms are used so
 selectively from issue to issue.  And then, a person can be conservative
 on one issue and liberal on another.  And beyond that, they are terms
 whose definition are relative to each other.  Were people to be that
 uncomplicated.
 
 
 Make it a good day.
 
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RE: Tips on Tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Scott C. Bates
Patrick O. Dolan pondered:

 Huh. Interesting topic!  When I lived in an area where tax was ~7-8%,
 people used the heuristic of doubling the tax and adjusting from
 there.  I calculate 10%, double it, and go from there.  As an aside,
 my experience over the past ~5 years is that 15% is a minimum and
 closer to 20% is more typical.  Is that just the 25-35 set I spend
 time with?

Interestingly, I've not come across any data on tipping by demographic
group (my mother is generally aghast at the 20% I generally put down).
What I've seen in the literature is that the relationship between
wait-staff performance and tip size (as proportion of bill) is a bit
blurry. For instance, while Lynn and Latane (1984) found tipping
unrelated to service quality (based on customer interviews), Bennett
(1983) found that accurate memory of cocktail waitresses (a measure of
performance, no?) led to higher customer satisfaction and tipping.

In teaching large intro psychology, I often preface my discussion of
tipping by asking who has worked or currently works in a food service
industry; there are always plenty of student who have (or do). It turns
out that for people who work in the industry there ARE heuristics (word
choice?) for which customers tip and which don't: age is perceived to be
a big factor, as is size of the party (as these go up, tips go down). I
always end up asking the class what other factors they think could
possibly lead to differences: sex? ethnicity? language? dress?

I have no data, but I've used this to introduce social-psych in my
intro-psych classes for some time and it ALWAYS generates good
discussion and allows me to pin useful material back to the examples
(stereotyping, prejudice, conformity (as resisted by Professor
Coleman!), social facilitation/interference, social norms, even group
polarization/groupthink and, if considered from the perspective of the
wait-staff, self-fulfilling prophecy).

It hadn't occurred to me that this as useful (pedagogically) as it is: I
always just 'did it.' Does anybody think that this, as an exercise, is
worthy of a Journal Teaching of Psych submission? Would anybody like to
implement it, collect some data, and pursue this as a
project/publication? Let me know.

Scott

 Lynn, M. and Latane, B. (1984). The psychology of restaurant
tipping. Journal of Applied Social Psychology, 14(6), Nov-Dec 1984. pp.
549-561.

 Bennett, H. L. (1983). Remembering drink orders: The memory skills
of cocktail waitresses. Human Learning: Journal of Practical Research 
Applications, 2(2), Apr-Jun 1983. pp. 157-169.



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Re: wormy advice

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Hey, wormy apples are not new. :-))


Make it a good day.

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RE: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Hetzel, Rod
Gotta love California politics...

The Terminator
Gallagher
Gary Coleman
Larry Flynt

Sounds like Clinton's cabinet!

Happy voting to all you Californians!

Rod


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 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
 Subject: Re: calling all California tipsters
 
 
 sylvestm wrote:
 
   Vote for Arnold
 
 ...and regret it at your leisure. :-)
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RE: Not Sure What to Call This Message

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Gary, I can truly appreciate that you all are psychologists with a
scientific training and that I am a historian with a social science and
humanity training (that was only after I blew my pre-med program one
semester with four F's and an A), I am, however, well versed in the
sciences having had a minor in the history and philosophy of science.
And that is not cut and dry as I recollect there was a discussion, a
vigorous discussion, a while back about whether psychology was a hard
science or a social  science.  It's a discussion that traces itself back
to the Enlightenment of the 18th century when the discipline was truly
born.  And heck, on my campus, the Pysch department is in the School of
Education almost as a service department because of political decisions
made decades ago that took it out of A  S.

Anyway, there is a misunderstanding.  I have been in this
business of education virtually all my life.  Since I went to
kindergarten way back in 1946, I have been in school in one capacity or
another without a break.  I wholeheartedly agree, as that Yiddish saying
goes, a for instance  is not proof.  When, however, I relate a story of
a particular student or a particular colleague or describe a particular
event or talk of myself, or discuss a priciple of teaching method or share
an aspect of my educational philosophy, do not think I am not taking an
uninformed, frivolous, inexperienced, vaccuous, dreamy, and isolated
inductive leap.  Whether I explicate or infer, I see in that person and/or
incident an incapsulation, evidence of, a conclusion about, a raising of a
question about, an issue drawn from years of observations and experiences
and reflections drawn, in turn, from endless reading of student journals,
endless observation, endless reflection and contemplation, endless
listening, countless small talks, endless inter-actions with colleagues
and students on my campus, on the internet, at conferences, etc.

But, even if it was otherwise, a story serves, as Marcus Aurelius
observed, a very important purpose.  Even a single event is something of
that proverbial step which is a critical part of a thousand mile journey.
It reveals the human condition with which both of our disciplines are
concerned and reminds each of us of possibilities and potentials of
viewing ourselves and others in different and deeper ways.  Stories are a
way of sharing and teaching and learning.

So, maybe being an active participant on this list, I, at least,
serve the valuable purpose of demonstrating that there are indeed
alternative and legitimate ways of looking at other people, oneself,
surroundings in both a personal and professional context.


 Make it a good day.

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RE: undergraduate practicum

2003-08-14 Thread Hetzel, Rod
Thanks for the response Annette.  We currently have an Independent Study
that some students use for research projects.  We also have a Practicum
class, primarily for our students interested in some type of career or
graduate school in the helping professions.  But, currently our
practicum class is offered on an as-needed basis and as a result is
taught more as an independent study than a regular course.  This ends up
meaning that usually we have one student taking it each semester.  This
system allows students more flexibility in arranging their schedules,
but it also means that faculty don't receive any credit and students
also don't have any chance for group supervision or instruction.  I'm
wondering if it would make more sense for us to schedule this class to
be taught at regular times.  This would mean less flexibility for
students, but faculty would then get credit for it and students would
have the opportunity to process their experiences as a group (which is
very helpful for practicum experiences).

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 From: Annette Taylor, Ph. D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:18 AM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
 Subject: Re: undergraduate practicum
 
 
 Hi Rod:
 
 Are you referring to a practicum as an internship or 
 something else? Can you 
 clarify for me, please?
 
 We have in our department (although I have never been and 
 don't ever anticipate 
 being involved in it) two levels of hands-on courses, 
 primarily for clinically- oriented students. We have a field 
 experience which is lower level and we offer 
 20 spots per semester. We have an internship with only 10 
 spots and it is 
 higher level with more intense weekly meetings. Both of these count 
 as 'classes' for the prof who organizes, places and monitors 
 the students. (Some of the non-clinicians have a bit of a 
 hard time with that given that the 
 same placements have been used for the past 20 years so it is 
 just a matter of 
 weekly meetings for one hour per week with the field 
 experience and three for 
 the internship, but there are no assigned readings or 
 'teaching' in some 
 organized syllabus format.)
 
 We also have a course titled Research Experience in which 
 students can enroll 
 but faculty get no credit for 'teaching' in which we can 
 mentor individual 
 students on a 1:1 basis for research they carry out, and an 
 Independent Study 
 which can be research or other things that are appropriate 
 and again the 
 students enroll for units ( and pay for units) but we do not 
 get compensated. I 
 would say that most of us carry an average of 1-2 students 
 per semester in 
 these categories of class.
 
 Does this help?
 
 Annette
 
 
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  How do you structure undergraduate practicum experiences in your 
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  do you offer it on an as-needed basis?
  
  Rod
  
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Re: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Larry is what California needs.  Only way to get a handle on the budget
is to have a governor who is a skin Flynt.


Make it a good day.

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Paul Smith wrote:

 Paul Brandon wrote:

  You mean the Green Acres pig?

 He's probably running - have you checked?

 I will laugh until there are tears running down my cheeks if the
 California angry mob politics results in Governor Larry Flynt.

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Re: Administrivia: Reading Messages, NoMail, etc

2003-08-14 Thread Jean-Marc Perreault




Hi Tipsters,
  Here's a pop quiz question for those of you who like APA formatting
challenges:

I will be teaching a course called Environmental Psychology. I adopted the
book Environmental Psychology: Principles and Practice, by Robert
Gifford, from University of Victoria. Teaching in Canada myself, it's a bonus
that it was witten by a Canadian.

Here's the question: Wanting to write the book reference, I could not find
the city where it was published. In the book, it only says it was printed
in Canada. Nothing more. On the book website http://www.optimalenvironments.com/optimalbooks.htm
it says that Optimal Books (the publishers) is in Colville, WA. But inside
the book, it does not mention that. Again, it only says it was printed in
Canada.

So here's what I did, after consulting with our librarian... Please let me
know what you think.

Gifford, R. (2002). Environmental psychology: Principles and practice
(3rd ed). [Coleville, WA]: Optimal Books.

The brackets are there to point to the fact that the information was found
elsewhere...

Looking forward to reading your comments...

Jean-Marc


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Re: school psych programs in ny

2003-08-14 Thread Steven Specht
S.U.N.Y., College at Oswego has a good program (and it's a nice place to

spend a few years... i.e., on the shores of Lake Ontario... GREAT

sunsets!... but LOTS of snow)



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Re: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Christopher D. Green
Rick Froman wrote:

 I am not a political scientist but I have friends who are political
 scientists and I just wonder if anyone else has had the not-so-brilliant
 thought that the whole left-wing/right-wing dichotomy in political science
 is way too oversimplified?

Even within psychology, this thought dates back at least to Hans Eysenck in the
who published in _Sense and Nonsense in Psychology_ (1958, p. 281) a scale that
measured political positions in terms of two dimensions: radical-conservative
and toughminded-tenderminded (borrowing and realigning -- or misusing, depending
on your point of view -- a couple of terms from William James). Socialists and
conservatives are both at about the 0-point in the t-t scale but, as one would
expect, are somwehat (though not extremely) on the radical and conservative
sides of the r-c dimension, respectively. Traditional liberals (not to be
confused with the pejorative way that term is used in U.S. political dicourse)
are at about the 0-point on r-c, but somwhat more tenderminded than either
socialist or conservatives. Communists and fascists are, as would be expected,
toward the ends of the r-c scale, respectively, but both are highly toughminded,
making them as close to each other in political space as they are to any of
the other positions. (Indeed, as I recall, Eysneck suggests that this is where
the action is in French politics, at least of the 1950s, which is supposed to
explain why fascists are more likely to convert to communism, and vice versa,
than sliding along the obvious dimension of fascism to conservatism to
liberalism to socialism to communism.)

I'll scan the plot he gives and post it at
http://www.yorku.ca/christo/eysenck.gif in a few of minutes.

No doubt there has been a great deal of development of this kind of
multidimensional modeling of politica space since then.

Regards,
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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=

 I just had such a thought today when I read
 someone referring to privacy as a liberal issue. It may be but there are a
 lot of right-wing groups that don't want the government involved in their
 business either.

 There are many problems with a simple left/right dichotomy and I can't
 believe political scientists haven't figured this out yet. If they have,
 they are keeping it a secret from the rest of us (including the
 psychologists who study political motivations). To start with, there are, of
 course, economic conservatives and liberals and social conservatives and
 liberals so, at least, there are two axes with four quadrants: the two
 well-known ones, Libertarians (who are basically social liberals and
 economic conservatives) and a fourth group of social conservatives and
 economic liberals (which, if they actually exist, seem to be about as
 numerous as Kohlberg's Stage 6 reasoners). To consider fascists or
 communists to be either extremely to the left or to the right of the
 American political spectrum is ludicrous. They seem to be pretty closely
 related (at least in their real life manifestations) to one another. I think
 there may be almost as many dimensions to political thought as there are
 political issues. To tie in another thread, I think such a one-dimensional
 dichotomy is even less likely to shine light on a person's motivations than
 the gender dichotomy or racial distinctions.

 Rick

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 John Brown University
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 -Original Message-
 From: Aubyn Fulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:46 PM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
 Subject: RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

 Louis_Schmier wrote:
 Any of you tipsters read George Will in the Washington Post this morning?
 I suggest you do.  I won't tell you what he says.  I've got my take on it.
 I'd like to hear yours.

 PAUL K. BRANDON wrote.
 The Psych Bull article that Will is referring to is a meta-analysis, with
 all the limitations of its breed. Since it's based on a wide variety of
 verbal reports of what individuals apparently mostly politicians) say that
 they would do or say in a specified situation, it is of limited value.

 And Will of course has selectively abstracted parts of the report that
 suit his politics.

 All in all, I'm more disappointed in Psych Bull in publishing the article
 in the first place.

 Aubyn writes.
 Aside from sharing his staunch conservative opposition to the Designated
 Hitter (a position all right thinking baseball fans adopt) I long ago
 stopped taking Mr. Will seriously, but I don't begrudge him responding to,
 and even being a little insulted by, the thesis put forward by Jost and
 others (including Frank Sulloway) 

RE: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Quoting Hetzel, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Gotta love California politics...
 
 The Terminator
 Gallagher
 Gary Coleman
 Larry Flynt
 
 Happy voting to all you Californians!
 

Well, we have the option of voting to keep Davis, or we also have the seasoned 
politicians, none of whom were able to defeat Davis in a straight head-to-head 
election..gee, was that less than a year ago

Arnold has not done well on talk shows at all when directly asked about policy 
questions. He just says over and over that he will clean things up. Well, DUH!


Annette




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Re: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Brandon
At 3:23 PM -0400 8/11/03, Christopher D. Green wrote:
I find it somewhat odd that George Will would object to the characterization
of (particularly *his*) conservatism as being driven by emotional need. After
all, he confessed in Ken Burns' _Baseball_ series that he was driven to
conservatism by the childhood disappointment engendered by being a lifelong
Cubs fan, and that his boyhood friends, who were all Cardinals fans, became
what he himself called happy liberals. :-)
Ah, but that was George Will the baseball writer, who is not to be 
taken seriously, as opposed to George Will the political commentator, 
who is ;-)

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RE: Graduate Research Methods Readings

2003-08-14 Thread Hetzel, Rod
Annette, Wally, and others:

Here are some references that I would recommend for a graduate level
research methods or statistics course.  The majority of these articles
are from one of my former professors, so I should proably acknowledge my
bias up front.  The articles on score reliability (in particular,
reliability generalization) are very timely and informative.  Hope these
help.  

Rod Hetzel


GENERAL STATISTICS

Thompson, B. (2000). Canonical correlation analysis. In L. Grimm  P.
Yarnold (Eds), Reading and understanding more multivariate statistics
(pp. 285-316). Washington, DC: American Psychological Association. 
 
Courville, T.,  Thompson, B. (2001). Use of structure coefficients in
published multiple regression articles: beta is not enough. Educational
and Psychological Measurement, 61, 229-248. 


SCORE RELIABILITY

Thompson, B. (Ed.). (2002). Score reliability: Contemporary thinking on
reliability issues. Newbury Park, CA: Sage. (International Standard Book
Number: 0-7619-2626-7)

Henson, R.K.,  Thompson, B. (2002). Characterizing measurement error in
scores across studies: Some recommendations for conducting Reliability
Generalization (RG) studies.  Measurement and Evaluation in Counseling
and Development, 35, 113-127. 

Vacha-Haase, T., Kogan, L.R.,  Thompson, B. (2000). Sample compositions
and variabilities in published studies versus those in test manuals:
Validity of score reliability inductions.  Educational and Psychological
Measurement, 60(4), 509-522. 

Fan, X.,  Thompson, B. (2001). Confidence intervals about score
reliability coefficients, please:  An EPM guidelines editorial.
Educational and Psychological Measurement, 61, 517-531. 
 
Thompson, B.,  Vacha-Haase, T. (2000). Psychometrics is datametrics:
The test is not reliable. Educational and Psychological Measurement, 60,
174-195.

Thompson, B.,  Snyder, P.A. (1998). Statistical significance and
reliability analyses in recent JCD research articles. Journal of
Counseling and Development, 76, 436-441. 


EFFECT SIZES 

Thompson, B. (2002). What future quantitative social science research
could look like: Confidence intervals for effect sizes. Educational
Researcher, 31(3), 24-31. 

Thompson, B. (2002). Statistical, practical, and clinical: How
many kinds of significance do counselors need to consider? Journal of
Counseling and Development, 80, 64-71. 

Baugh, F.,  Thompson, B. (2001). Using effect sizes in social science
research:  New APA and journal mandates for improved methodology
practices. Journal of Research in Education, 11(1), 120-129. 

Fidler, F.,  Thompson, B. (2001). Computing correct confidence
intervals for ANOVA fixed- and random-effects effect sizes. Educational
and Psychological Measurement, 61, 575-604.

Thompson, B. (2001). Significance, effect sizes, stepwise methods, and
other issues:  Strong arguments move the field. Journal of Experimental
Education, 70, 80-93. 

Mittag, K.C.,  Thompson, B. (2000). A national survey of AERA members'
perceptions of statistical significance tests and other statistical
issues. Educational Researcher, 29(4), 14-20. [For an article precis, go
to article.] 


STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE 

Vacha-Haase, T., Nilsson, J.E., Reetz, D.R., Lance, T.S.,  Thompson, B.
(2000).  Reporting practices and APA editorial policies regarding
statistical significance and effect size.  Theory  Psychology, 10,
413-425. 

Thompson, B. (1998, April). Five methodology errors in educational
research: The pantheon of statistical significance and other faux pas.
Invited address presented at the annual meeting of the American
Educational Research Association, San Diego. (ERIC Document Reproduction
Service No. ED 419 023) 

Thompson, B. (1999). Journal editorial policies regarding statistical
significance tests: Heat is to fire as p is to importance. Educational
Psychology Review, 11, 157-169. 

Thompson, B. (1994). The concept of statistical significance testing.
Measurement Update, 4(1), 5-6. (ERIC Document Reproduction Service No.
ED 366 654) 

Thompson, B. (1999). Statistical significance tests, effect size
reporting, and the vain pursuit of pseudo-objectivity. Theory 
Psychology, 9(2), 191-196. 

Thompson, B.,  Snyder, P.A. (1997). Statistical significance testing
practices in the Journal of Experimental Education. Journal of
Experimental Education, 66, 75-83. 

Thompson, B. (1998). Review of What if there were no significance
tests?. Educational and Psychological Measurement, 58, 332-344. 

Thompson, B. (1997). Editorial policies regarding statistical
significance tests: Further comments.  Educational Researcher, 26(5),
29-32. 

Thompson, B. (1996). AERA editorial policies regarding statistical
significance testing: Three suggested reforms. Educational Researcher,
25(2), 26-30. 


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Department of Psychology
LeTourneau University
Post Office Box 7001
2100 South Mobberly Avenue
Longview, Texas  75607-7001
 
Office:   Education Center 218

RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Rick Froman
I am not a political scientist but I have friends who are political
scientists and I just wonder if anyone else has had the not-so-brilliant
thought that the whole left-wing/right-wing dichotomy in political science
is way too oversimplified? I just had such a thought today when I read
someone referring to privacy as a liberal issue. It may be but there are a
lot of right-wing groups that don't want the government involved in their
business either. 

There are many problems with a simple left/right dichotomy and I can't
believe political scientists haven't figured this out yet. If they have,
they are keeping it a secret from the rest of us (including the
psychologists who study political motivations). To start with, there are, of
course, economic conservatives and liberals and social conservatives and
liberals so, at least, there are two axes with four quadrants: the two
well-known ones, Libertarians (who are basically social liberals and
economic conservatives) and a fourth group of social conservatives and
economic liberals (which, if they actually exist, seem to be about as
numerous as Kohlberg's Stage 6 reasoners). To consider fascists or
communists to be either extremely to the left or to the right of the
American political spectrum is ludicrous. They seem to be pretty closely
related (at least in their real life manifestations) to one another. I think
there may be almost as many dimensions to political thought as there are
political issues. To tie in another thread, I think such a one-dimensional
dichotomy is even less likely to shine light on a person's motivations than
the gender dichotomy or racial distinctions. 

Rick

Dr. Rick Froman
Associate Professor of Psychology
John Brown University
Siloam Springs, AR 72761
(479) 524-7295
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.jbu.edu/academics/sbs/rfroman.asp

-Original Message-
From: Aubyn Fulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

Louis_Schmier wrote:
Any of you tipsters read George Will in the Washington Post this morning?
I suggest you do.  I won't tell you what he says.  I've got my take on it.
I'd like to hear yours.

PAUL K. BRANDON wrote. 
The Psych Bull article that Will is referring to is a meta-analysis, with
all the limitations of its breed. Since it's based on a wide variety of
verbal reports of what individuals apparently mostly politicians) say that
they would do or say in a specified situation, it is of limited value.

And Will of course has selectively abstracted parts of the report that
suit his politics.

All in all, I'm more disappointed in Psych Bull in publishing the article
in the first place.

Aubyn writes.
Aside from sharing his staunch conservative opposition to the Designated
Hitter (a position all right thinking baseball fans adopt) I long ago
stopped taking Mr. Will seriously, but I don't begrudge him responding to,
and even being a little insulted by, the thesis put forward by Jost and
others (including Frank Sulloway) that political conservatives are more
likely to be rigid than liberals. Will is essentially an entertainer these
days, so I also don't really expect him to give a fair reading of the
article.

If one were to take Will seriously, I think the main dispute I would have
with him is his distortion of Jost's position on the psychological
determinants of all beliefs. Will fills much of his column with assertions
like the following: Professors have reasons for their beliefs.  Other
people, particularly conservatives, have social and psychological
explanations for their beliefs and  The professors have ideas; the rest
of us have emanations of our psychological needs and neuroses and .the
professors, who do not say that their judgments arise from social
situations or emotional needs rather than reason. While Jost et. al. do
argue that conservatives are more likely to be rigid and uncomfortable
with ambiguity, they specifically are not arguing what Will attributes to
them repeatedly, that only conservative beliefs are motivated by
non-rational processes.  Note this passage, only partially quoted by Will:
Our first assumption, too, is that conservative ideologies-like virtually
all other belief systems-are adopted in part because they satisfy some
psychological needs. This does not mean that conservatism is pathological
or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false, irrational, or
unprincipled. Will chops the quote up, and exaggerates the emphasis on
the phrase necessarily false to make it [inaccurately] seem that Jost is
really exempting liberal beliefs from non-rational motivation.

I don't understand Dr. Brandon's disappointment with Psych Bull for
publishing the article - unless he is disappointed with all published
reports of meta-analysis (which would make him one disappointed
psychologist indeed). There is a long and broad literature on the
psychology of 

Re: wormy advice

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Aha, Bill.  The worm has turned. :-))


Make it a good day.

   --Louis--


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Department of Historywww.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html
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RE: The prevention of dissemination of scientific knowledge

2003-08-14 Thread Peterson, Douglas
After checking a couple of library policies on reserves you MIGHT be able to
do the following.

Assign the required reading and have the issues of American Psychologist (or
even copies of the articles) placed on reserve at the library.  If you have
full-text assess to the American Psychologist this could be an e-reserve. 

Here is the tricky part.  You can't have one reserve with all of the
articles because that would be a collection of anthology and requires
copyright permission, however some (not ALL) libraries that I checked allow
multiple reserves per class.  If each individual student does the copying it
is personal fair-use and part of the reason the libraries get charged a
fortune for journals (if you haven't seen your library's journal budget for
psychology ask - we had one quarterly journal charging our library over
$1000 per year).

Not the most creative solution (by the way you probably could have been free
to distribute copies for one semester under the spontaneity clause however I
suspect TIPS record of your e-mail would be rather damming evidence in
court).   

Doug

Doug Peterson
Assistant Professor of Psychology
The University of South Dakota
Vermillion SD 57069
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-Original Message-
From: Wallace E. Dixon, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:49 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: The prevention of dissemination of scientific knowledge

I must be daft, but I would've thought since the major 
Kinko's lawsuit several years ago, publishers of scientific journals 
would've placed a greater value on the dissemination of scientific 
knowledge than on revenue enhancement, and would've adjusted their 
copyright policies accordingly.  Maybe some publishers do, but not 
the APA.  I will  need to be edified about the underlying rationale 
for why scientific journals find it useful to place obstacles in the 
free and unfettered dissemination of scientific knowledge, because I 
can't see it.  Anyone who can straighten me out, please do.
So here's the deal.  As you may remember from my last 
request, I am trying to gather provocative and exciting articles 
published in the scientific literature to accompany a textbook for my 
graduate research methods class.  I found at least two dozen very 
cool articles in the American Psychologist.  Being rule-minded as I 
am, I checked their copyright policy.  I did this pro-forma because I 
had assumed that APA would be at the cutting-edge about publication 
policy for the distribution of their copyrighted articles for use in 
academic courses.  But you know what happens when you assume!  Not 
only am I not allowed to copy and distribute more than a single APA 
article to my students freely, but I have to pay 35 cents per page 
per student.  This figure came from the Copyright Clearance Center.
Now I am confronted with three courses of action: 1) not 
share the articles with my students, 2) break the copyright law and 
distribute the articles anyway, or 3) find some loophole that will 
allow my students to get copies of these articles without any of us 
breaking the law.
I am writing to TIPS to follow up on the third option.  Have 
any of you found ways of accomplishing this objective without 
becoming a criminal?

Wally Dixon

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The prevention of dissemination of scientific knowledge

2003-08-14 Thread Wallace E. Dixon, Jr.
	I must be daft, but I would've thought since the major 
Kinko's lawsuit several years ago, publishers of scientific journals 
would've placed a greater value on the dissemination of scientific 
knowledge than on revenue enhancement, and would've adjusted their 
copyright policies accordingly.  Maybe some publishers do, but not 
the APA.  I will  need to be edified about the underlying rationale 
for why scientific journals find it useful to place obstacles in the 
free and unfettered dissemination of scientific knowledge, because I 
can't see it.  Anyone who can straighten me out, please do.
	So here's the deal.  As you may remember from my last 
request, I am trying to gather provocative and exciting articles 
published in the scientific literature to accompany a textbook for my 
graduate research methods class.  I found at least two dozen very 
cool articles in the American Psychologist.  Being rule-minded as I 
am, I checked their copyright policy.  I did this pro-forma because I 
had assumed that APA would be at the cutting-edge about publication 
policy for the distribution of their copyrighted articles for use in 
academic courses.  But you know what happens when you assume!  Not 
only am I not allowed to copy and distribute more than a single APA 
article to my students freely, but I have to pay 35 cents per page 
per student.  This figure came from the Copyright Clearance Center.
	Now I am confronted with three courses of action: 1) not 
share the articles with my students, 2) break the copyright law and 
distribute the articles anyway, or 3) find some loophole that will 
allow my students to get copies of these articles without any of us 
breaking the law.
	I am writing to TIPS to follow up on the third option.  Have 
any of you found ways of accomplishing this objective without 
becoming a criminal?

Wally Dixon

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  of Psychology | compared to understanding
Department of Psychology| child's play
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Re: wormy advice

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Brandon
But note:  this only directly affects Windows machines.

Advice from a sadder but wiser TIPSter:

I've just spent hours and hours - since Monday night - getting rid of the
newest computer worm, blaster, and have advice for anyone who hasn't
gotten it yet.  (And I'm buying stock in Symantec.)
Or Apple?

Beth Benoit
University System of New Hampshire
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Very strange email

2003-08-14 Thread Nina Tarner
I received the below email and was wondering if anyone on the list
received the same email?  I found it very odd and am not really sure
what they are looking for.

Nina

Dear Madam/Sir, 
Hong Kong has no war and starvation.  However, Hong Kong has something
much more miserable and inhuman. 

If you have mental or psychological problem you will suffer lifetime. 
No matter you are poor or rich.  Many disorder can be easily treated
within 10 to 20 sessions in USA but in Hong Kong you will life time
suffer. 

Our psychiatry began 3 decades ago by Prof. K. Singer (he is an Indian)
in University of Hong Kong (retired).  Most psychiatrists are his
students.  However, their charge at least HK$500.00 per visit can higher
to HK$3,000.00 or more.  Every visit is 10 minutes or less with 1-week
medicine.  The psychiatrists always make wrong diagnosis and dosage. 
Abuse of ECT, many patients lost all their teeth but still have no
improvement.  Medical Doctors in Hong Kong only require a bachelor
degree. 

Our clinical psychology began 3 decades ago too by Prof. David Ho (he is
Chinese from USA) in University of Hong Kong (retired).  In fact he is a
social psychologist not clinical.  Most clinical psychologists are his
students.  He does not know how to treat panic disorder and say prevent
the cause and waiting time to treat it.  Most of Hong Kong clinical
psychologists only have a master degree.  Their charger at least
HK$2,000.00 per hour can higher to HK$3,000.00 or more.  They are
harming and hurting their clients not helping them. 

Chinese University of Hong Kong set up a mood disorder center by Dr. Lee
Shing.  The cheaper line (it is not cheap when compare with USA)
HK$600.00 to HK$900.00 for 45 minutes need to wait 2 years.  It is
non-sense.  Therefore he stopped the line.  The expensive line
HK$1,000.00 or more need to wait 3 months.  Both lines use the same
clinical psychologists.  They only have master degree. 

We have very few clinical psychologist and psychiatrist in Hong Kong. 
In fact some of them have very good conscience but with low competence. 
They do not have any course or workshop to improve their skill and
knowledge in Hong Kong.  Some of them will go to USA to learn. 

Some patients become bankrupt and still no any improvement even worse. 
We cannot sue a social worker or clinical psychologist.  Clients have no
protection at all. 

In fact Hong Kong government has paid huge sum of money in counseling. 
Recently Hong Kong government set up a HK$24,000,000.00 fund to do
research about compulsory gambling. 

The University of Hong Kong new principal, Dr. Tsui is a Chinese from
USA, is really crazy.  It seems he said more times HKU has international
standard it will become true.  He is only a liar.  If our universities
really have international standard why the professor children seldom
study at local universities. 

Most Hong Kong people mixed up.  HK A-level examination is the world
hardest enter university examination.  But not because our universities
are the best.  It is only because the cost of every university students
is very expensive so we need to limit the numbers.  (Every enter
universities students may have government's grant or loan even full pay
is only 10% of the cost.)  The cost of every university students is very
expensive because our professors and lecturers salaries are too high. 
Their salaries are high not because they have high competence.  It is
because few people know we pay so high and very hard to employ.  Even
today very few people in the world know we pay so high.  If more people
in the world know we can easily pay lesser and have more competence
professors.  It is really unfair to use inept professors to teach our
elite students.  Our students have beyond international standard and
they will ruin by the professors.  Many people in Hong Kong think,
University of Hong Kong is better or equal to Harvard.  Every year we
use HK$40 billion, yes 40 billion, at university education. 

We were unluckily employed inept professors with very very high salary
(basic salary HK$200,000.00 per month excluding others benefits,
medicine professor can have much more).  Hong Kong the highest income
tax rate is only 15%.  They are good at employing whom have lower
competence than them.  Therefore even they are retired the future of
Hong Kong in psychotherapy are no hope.  Our university professors
always only employ whom are inept than them. 

We really do not know how to change and improve the situation.  We know
may be you too.  We hope at least somebody know the fact!  We hope the
problem can be solved. 

Cordially Regards, 
The Hong Kong people. 

We use English to teach in our universities.  97% population in Hong
Kong speaks Cantonese a Chinese Dialect. 

US$1.00 = HK$7.80 

The followings are our universities web sites. 
http://www.cuhk.hk/en/Chinese University
of Hong Kong 
http://www.cityu.edu.hk/  City University of
Hong 

Re: school psych programs in ny

2003-08-14 Thread Rikikoenig
Ferkauf Graduate School of Yeshiva University,in NYC, has a doctoral program in school psych. I am having trouble reaching their website to confirm this, but you can try to check it out at www.yu.edu. They used to have both a certificate program (the only degree necessary for licensing as a school psychologist in NY) and a doctorate.

Riki
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intriguing question

2003-08-14 Thread J L Edwards




Hi all:

I use PowerPoint presentations and for the first day I have a 
"welcome to class" slide with very basic information on it. I would like to 
include a "snappy", intriguing question related to psychology that also relates 
to some everyday, common behaviormany don't think about.One of my 
colleagues suggested, "On which side of the aisle do you push your cart when you 
are grocery shopping and why?" (According to her, most people push their cart on 
the right hand side of the aisle because this behavior generalized 
fromtraffic laws.) I'd like to have a reference (she couldn't provide one) 
to support the answer.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for replying

Jean Edwards
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Re: Tips on Tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
One of my many job that I needed after my father went bankrupt to get
through school was waiting on tables in a restaurant.  I have a different
perspective from some of those who have made comments on this topic.  I'm
curious to see how many of Tipsters have been waiters or waitresses and
what their take is on tipping.  I suspect if customers were better
informed about the rigors of and talents required for being a waiter or
waitress, their tipping habits might change.


Make it a good day.

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something odd about human behavior

2003-08-14 Thread J L Edwards



Hi again:

Please don't forget about my earlier request. I'd like to pose students 
with a question about human behavior; something commonplace but odd; something 
most of us do but we give little thought to; something they might answer one 
way, though research findings are the exact opposite.

I really thought Stephen would come through...where are you Stephen 
Black?

Jean Edwards
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mom....dad...look at this or dad.... mom.... look at this

2003-08-14 Thread J L Edwards



My husband and I were in a large pet store and there were lots 
of kids there with their parents. I noticed when the kids saw something they 
wanted their parents to see, it was always (N = 17, limited data, I 
admit, and anecdotal evidence) "Mom, dad...look, come 
here, etc." Gender was irrelevant; during my naturalistic 
observations,"mom" was consistently named first. I'm ASSUMING the 
mothers in these families are the primary care givers and I'm wondering if the 
order of parental solicitationis related to this. 

Any data?

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Re: something odd about human behavior

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Black
On 7 Aug 2003, J L Edwards wrote:

 Hi again:
 
 Please don't forget about my earlier request. I'd like to pose
 students with a question about human behavior; something commonplace
 but odd; something most of us do but we give little thought to;
 something they might answer one way, though research findings are the
 exact opposite.
 
 I really thought Stephen would come through...where are you Stephen
 Black?
 

Well, I'm glad to hear that Mark Kunkel isn't me, because if he was, 
who would I be? But I'd like to endorse his citing of the crack 
baby misconception. We've periodically discussed it on TIPS, and 
there should be lots of references in the archives. 

I didn't respond because most of what I have to offer are old 
standards, and many of them have been discussed on TIPS. Also, 
although I think I know what the appropriate evidence-based 
conclusion is in each case, most are controversial, and not likely to 
be resolved as readily as the kinds of examples I'd guess Jean is 
hoping for.

Here's a list, unreferenced, in no particular order. In re-reading it 
before sending off, I see that very few actually conform to what Jean 
is looking for: something commonplace...something most of us do. 
The ones I've phrased as you or we or our might do. All of 
them, though, satisfy the other criterion something they [students] 
might answer one way, though research findings are the exact 
opposite.

-Do power blackouts cause babies? [no]
-Are there more admissions to mental institutions during a full moon? 
[no]
-Should we drink 8 glasses of water a day? [no] (and that belief has 
led to the deaths by hyponatremia of a number of individuals taking 
part in marathons]
-Does our brain record memories like a tape recorder? [no]
-Is treating the symptom of a behavioural problem instead of its 
underlying cause harmful? [no]
-Are memories of childhood sexual abuse repressed so that the 
individual has no knowledge of them until they are recalled years 
later with the help of a skilled therapist? [no]
-Do children who were abused always grow up to be child abusers 
themselves? [no]
-Is multiple personality (sigh! dissociative identity) disorder 
caused by child abuse? [no]
-Is sexual contact between child and adult of any kind always harmful 
to the child's later development? [no]
-Are your parents the primary cause of how you turn out later in life 
[no]
-Is childhood immunization the cause of autism? [no]
-Is secretin an effective treatment for autism?[no]
-Is psychoanalysis an effective treatment? [no]
-Do highly-qualified and experienced therapists provide more 
effective therapy than paraprofessionals with limited or no training 
[no]
-Are you more likely to sink baskets after a success than a failure 
(the hot hand phenomenon)? [no]

That's from Gilovich's How we know what isn't so, a great title for 
a great book which must have more of these kind of examples in it. 

Whew! Didn't know there were so many.

Stephen
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RE: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Hetzel, Rod
 Larry is what California needs.  Only way to get a handle on 
 the budget is to have a governor who is a skin Flynt.

He would be perfect.  We all know that all politicians are hustlers
anyways...


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RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Brandon
At 9:42 PM -0400 8/10/03, Louis_Schmier wrote:
Paul, I read Will's column very early this morning.  And, I am reacting to
Will.  I can't react to the article he cites since I haven't read it yet.
My reaction to Will's column is that it's relevant to politics, not 
Psychology, and might better be discussed on a Political Science list.
I do read Will occasionally, since he occasionally has something 
interesting to say (an instance of the matching law), but then, even 
a stopped clock is right twice a day ;-).
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Tips on Tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Smith
As I think the original request was for common behaviors that can be related
to psychological topics, I think the question of how one figures a standard
tip is also interesting. I see people using little tip tables that give
15% of various amounts in table form, but without such a table, how one
represents the problem can make a big difference in problem difficulty.
We're taught to figure things like this by multiplying the total bill by
.15, and we're taught to do problems like that using a complicated
algorithm* that amounts to manipulation of symbols. That algorithm is too
complicated for most of us to do mentally, without at least writing down
intermediate answers, something which is often not possible when figuring a
tip (due to lack of pencil and paper).

But there are other ways to figure 15% besides that kind of symbol
manipulation. I usually figure 10% (simply by moving over the decimal point
mentally), and then figure (again, mentally) half of that number (which is
then 5% of the total), and then (yet again mentally) add the two.
Alternatively, one could figure 10%, and then 20% (simply by doubling the
10%) and then figure the halfway mark between those two numbers (I haven't
used that method, and I don't know if it would be too taxing for me).

I'll bet there are other ways that people use besides these, and I'd think
they might lead to an interesting discussion of the role of mental
representation in mathematical problem solving. Most Introductory texts have
a chapter on Language, Thinking, and Problem Solving where the relevant
material would be found. I suspect that most of the people who still try to
use the symbol manipulation algorithm in the tipping context also believe
that symbol manipulation method they've been taught IS multiplication, and
don't realize that it's just one of many devices for finding the answer to
multiplication problems.

* Okay, class, remember, start by multiplying the ones column, and write
your answer below the ones column, carrying any tens you get up to the top
of the tens column. Then take the tens column from the first multiplicand
times the ones column from the second...

Paul Smith
Alverno College
Milwaukee


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Random Thought: The Most Important Word In Education

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Dare I share another one so soon?  But, gosh, lately I've been
feeling like a Texas wildcat oil well that just came in.  I'm just gushing
with stuff.  I guess my excitement about the coming semester is really
building up after a roughly three month reluctant hiatus from the
classroom.

What the heck.  There I was, basking in the hot, humid mid-day
summer sun among the front yard flower beds spraying them with a home made
natural, noxious, nicotine based bug spray made from boiling chewing
tobacco.  Coating my superheated body was an equally noxious concoction of
sweat, sunblock oil, and mosquito repellant made from being blanched in
the hot humidity.  My back was to the street.  As I whiffed away the
gnats, I heard the plodding of a runner.  I didn't look around.  I thought
it must be a fellow mad dog or Englishman.  I heard my name called out,
turned, and there was sweaty Nessie.  I waved.  She stopped, came over,
and started talking.  Parts of our conversation went something like this.

Between gasping huffs and puffs, she said, Hey, Dr. Schmier, this
is crazy.

Running in this humidity and sun?  I asked in a tone of
agreement that questioned her sanity.

No.  A bunch of us were talking about you the other day over a
pizza.  We were singing our Bruce Springsteen project songs.  It was a
hoot.  We were doing that crazy rap stuff about Reconstruction at the
table.  The people around us thought we had lost it.  Then, we got to
talking about the class and how we felt about it.  We came up with a
puzzle for you that we were going to throw at you when classes begin.
But, hey, you're here now.  We wanted to know what you think is the most
important single word for a teacher or anyone on this campus?

I turned off the hose.  Love, I shot back.

No.  We know that.  I mean if you could say only one word that
says it all, just one word, to a student when he first comes on campus,
when he first enters your classroom, when he first comes into your office,
what would it be?

One word? You gotta be kidding.  I moaned.  For a second I
facetiously thought that in the future I should only work my front yard
at night when no one would see me.

One word, she continued.  Not a phrase.  Not a sentence.  Not a
sermon.  Just one word.  That's all we're giving you.  What would that one
word be?

Now?

Now, she said with an impishness that revealed she thought she
had caught me.

I thought for a second.  You know what it is.

I do?

Sure.  It was the first word I used on the first day of class as
I greeted you at the door and gave you the letter.

She paused for a moment.  I don't remember.

Think.

'Welcome?'

You got it.  'Welcome.'

Why 'welcome?'

It's probably the most important least used word in education,
second only to 'love.' It says it all, I told her.  Love, support,
encourage, hope, worthy, faith, belief, care.  As we talked, we decided
that welcome, is a word for everyone on campus:  staff, administrators,
professors, advisers, coaches.  It's also not just a first day word.
It's a second day word, and a third day word, and a fourth day word.
It's an every time word, a each and every day word.  And, it's not just
a say to word.  It's a show it and live it word as if each and every
day is a first day.  But, you've got to mean it.  You've got to be
passionate about it.  It's got to be unconditional.  The bottom line is
that it has to be real.  You can't say 'welcome' with a snarl in your
voice and a sneer on your face.  Your voice has to sing it, your body has
to dance it, your face has to smile it...

What does all that mean? she asked in confusion.

Whenever I say welcome, I told her, I mean a bunch of things:  I
will be gracious to each of you; I will respect to each of you; my heart
is open to each and every one of you; I'm really glad each of you are
here; you're important and important to me; I'll do whatever it takes to
help you care about who you are and what you do; I want to see you grow to
your full potential.  I went to explain that welcome means an
unconditional and sincere greeting of each person without prejudice, bias,
preconception.  That includes the brash, the confident, the tattooed, the
uncooperative, the body pierced, the shy, the lonely, the loudmouth, the
goof off, the hard worker, the special, the friendly, the indifferent, the
interested, the uninterested, the easy, the challenging.  It means each
and everyone, no exceptions.

Isn't that kind of dreamy?

Well, I answered, dreams are pretty powerful stuff.  They're
the key to our choices, passion, spirit, energy, growth.  You might say
that our dreams always lead the way for each of us.  When you dream you
are saying to yourself, 'What if' and 'It could be.' You'll get and be
what you imagine because you follow what you imagine to the places you

Re: tipping behavior

2003-08-14 Thread Gail Hayes
Coffee shop employees are not paid a salary and work only for tips.  On the
other hand, fast food employees, as well as other stores whose employees
have a tip container on the counter, work for an hourly wage and have, in
the past, never expected to be tipped.  As a former server, I don't feel the
need to tip employees who earn an hourly wage or who do not offer table side
service -- big difference!

- Original Message -
From: Annette Taylor, Ph. D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: tipping behavior


 I like this response! I have always wondered how coffee shop employees
manage
 to get some fairly sizeable tips when we would not even for a moment think
 about tipping fast food employees! I think it would be a good study for
 students to carry out and explore!

 Annette

 Quoting Scott C. Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Jean,
 
  Jean Edwards Wrote:
 
   Please don't forget about my earlier request. I'd like to
   pose students with a question about human behavior; something
   commonplace but odd; something most of us do but we give
   little thought to; something they might answer one way,
   though research findings are the exact opposite.
 
  I use tipping behavior (at restaurants) for just such a purpose. I find
  it useful for a few reasons. First, there are a variety of interesting
  and counter-intuitive findings (smiley-face on a check = higher tip;
  crouching down = higher tip; touching = higher tip (plus a predictable
  (and entertaining) interaction with sex)). Second, it's something that,
  as you say, we do but give little thought to (with the exception of
  doing some math). Finally, because it demonstrates a few different
  social-psych principles that are easy to grasp and attach to the
  behavior (e.g. the reciprocity norm).
 
  Here are a few references:
 
  Crusco, A. H.,  Wetzel, C. G. (1984). The Midas touch: The
  effect of interpersonal touch on restaurant tipping. Personality and
  Social Psychology Bulletin, 10, 512-517.
  Garrity, K.,  Degelmann, D. (1990). Effect of server
  introduction on restaurant tipping. Journal of Applied Social
  Psychology, 20, 168-172.
  Lynn, M.,  Mynier, K. (1993). Effects of server posture on
  restaurant tipping.; Journal of Applied Social Psychology, 23, 678-685.
  Stephen, R.,  Zweigenhaft, R. L. (1985). The effect on tipping
  of a waitress touching male and female customers. The Journal of Social
  Psychology, 126, 141-142.
 
  Also, Cialdini's book Influence: Science and Practice contains a
  variety of good ideas for just this sort of thing.
 
  Hope this helps!
 
  Scott
 
 
  
  Scott C. Bates, Ph.D.
  Assistant Professor
  Department of Psychology
  Utah State University
  (435) 797 - 2975
  
 
 
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Re: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Brandon
 Vote for Arnold
You mean the Green Acres pig?
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calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread sylvestm
 Vote for Arnold

MJS

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Re: Graduate Research Methods Readings

2003-08-14 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
I'm at home and on half vacation mode so I don't have references handy but 
there are some good articles I even use in my capstone upper division labs that 
would be good. In particular I'm thinking of a couple of articles on APA style. 
I think one of them titled something like APA style as epistemology and was 
published in American Psychologist. The other is titled Constructing 
Psychological Knowledge in Theory  Psychology. I bet there are some others in 
this vein. I don't know if these are 'exciting and provocative' but I like 
them :-)

Annette

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 Dear Colleagues,
 A couple of weeks ago, I asked whether anyone could advise me with
 regard to choosing a graduate research methods text.  I got two
 recommendations, Whitten  Shadish, Cook,  Campbell.  These texts are ok,
 but a bit dry.  
 So now I'd like to accompany whichever one I choose with more exciting,
 provocative stuff, and I'm thinking of supplementing the text with articles
 or other book chapters.  I want to capture the essence of debate in the
 nature and philosophy of science that's going on in the field.  Some of the
 American Psychologist articles rejecting NHST come to mind, Meehl's stuff,
 but since I've never taught a graduate research methods course before, I've
 never read these things with an eye for their use as supplemental readings.
 So, here's a follow up question.  Can any of you recommend exciting,
 provocative articles or book chapters that 1st year graduate psychology
 students should read?
 Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
 
 Wally Dixon
 
 Wallace E. Dixon, Jr.
 Chair, Department of Psychology
 East Tennessee State University
 Johnson City, TN  37604
 (423) 439-6656
 
 
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Re: Meta-analysis (Was: George Will's Washinton Post Column)

2003-08-14 Thread Aubyn Fulton
Aubyn wrote…
Sulloway has published some interesting and controversial meta-analyses in
the past of course, and perhaps you note something in his approach that is
not up to snuff?

Stephen wrote…
Um, yes. People might like to take a look at the devastating analysis the
inimitable Judith Rich Harris provides of Sulloway's meta-analysis (in his
book _Born to Rebel_) of birth order effects. It's  available in the last
of her four on-line essays on birth order at
http://home.att.net/~xchar/tna/birth-order/index.htm. It suggests to me
that while Sulloway's book may be magnificent, it's not science.

One of the interesting things she says is that despite the fact that no
one can replicate his findings (and that's not for lack of trying), he
seems very reluctant to provide the basic information on  which his
conclusions are based (SNIP)

Aubyn writes…
Yes – this is the controversy about Sulloway’s past meta-analysis that I
was referring to – and is why I tried to draw attention in my first post
to the fact that Sulloway was one of the co-authors on the Jost article.

I suppose I have been too oblique in my past posts. Several posters have
seemed not to like the Jost article published in Psych Bull that was the
recent subject of a column by George Will, and I have been trying to
understand why. Some of that antipathy seems to be based on the assumption
that political ideology is an inappropriate subject for psychological
inquiry (several posts seemed to assert that political beliefs were an
inappropriate topic on this list). I disagree with that, but I suppose it
is something of an aesthetic point.  “Conservatives” may or may not differ
systematically from “Liberals”, and if they do it may or may not have
anything to do with rigidity and acceptance of inequality – but these seem
to me to be legitimate empirical questions susceptible to empirical
investigation.

Another post seemed to suggest that the antipathy was based on their
negative view of meta-analysis. Since I doubt the poster really meant that
no meta-analytic review is ever appropriate, I inferred that there must be
some flaw in the meta-analytic methodology used by Jost and colleagues. My
understanding of meta-analysis is quite limited, and I may easily have
overlooked flaws.

Judith Harris – not exactly an impartial arbiter when it comes to Sulloway
and his approach, but she knows a lot more about meta-analysis than I do -
argues that Sulloway erred in choosing the vote-counting procedure in his
Birth Order work, and then used the vote-counting procedure in sloppy and
ambiguous ways that among other things led to un-checked confirmation
bias. She also argues that he ignored a significant publication bias in
the birth order literature.

My question then is: What specific flaws have people detected in the Jost
et al. (including Sulloway) meta-analysis? It would have helped me if Jost
had gone into more detail about their method, but it seems that they did
not use vote-counting, and they do report effect sizes. I can’t recall if
or how they account for publication bias. Have other readers identified
specific errors of technique in the Jost meta-analysis, and if so, what
are they? Or has Sulloway been so discredited as a meta-analyst that any
review he is now associated with is assumed to be unworthy of publication?



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Professor of Psychology
Chair, Behavioral Science Department
Pacific Union College
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Re: wormy advice (tech note)

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth M. Steele

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:32:22 -0400 Beth Benoit 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, as I said, Macintosh (Apple) users need not panic.  And further
 research, after Louis' response, I found that the following Windows users
 are vulnerable:
 Windows XP,Windows NT, Windows ME/2000, Windows 2003
 
 Beth Benoit
 University System of New Hampshire
 

There seems to be confusion about the versions of Windows that 
are affected by this worm.

From the Symantec site:

Symantec Security Response has developed a removal tool to clean 
infections of W32.Blaster.Worm.

Also Known As: 
W32/Lovsan.worm.a [McAfee], Win32.Poza.A [CA], Lovsan 
[F-Secure],WORM_MSBLAST.A [Trend], W32/Blaster-A [Sophos], 
W32/Blaster [Panda], Worm.Win32.Lovesan [KAV]
 
Type: Worm
Infection Length: 6,176 bytes
Systems Affected:  Windows 2000, Windows XP
Systems Not Affected: Linux, Macintosh, OS/2, UNIX, Windows 95, 
Windows 98, Windows Me,Windows NT
CVE References: CAN-2003-0352
-
Ken

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Graduate Research Methods Readings

2003-08-14 Thread Wallace E. Dixon, Jr.
Dear Colleagues,
A couple of weeks ago, I asked whether anyone could advise me with
regard to choosing a graduate research methods text.  I got two
recommendations, Whitten  Shadish, Cook,  Campbell.  These texts are ok,
but a bit dry.  
So now I'd like to accompany whichever one I choose with more exciting,
provocative stuff, and I'm thinking of supplementing the text with articles
or other book chapters.  I want to capture the essence of debate in the
nature and philosophy of science that's going on in the field.  Some of the
American Psychologist articles rejecting NHST come to mind, Meehl's stuff,
but since I've never taught a graduate research methods course before, I've
never read these things with an eye for their use as supplemental readings.
So, here's a follow up question.  Can any of you recommend exciting,
provocative articles or book chapters that 1st year graduate psychology
students should read?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Wally Dixon

Wallace E. Dixon, Jr.
Chair, Department of Psychology
East Tennessee State University
Johnson City, TN  37604
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Re: Tips

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Brandon
From that website that Cheri  Budzynski recently recommended about
tipping at www.people.cornell.edu/pages/wml3/tipping_information.htm
(from a Canadian CBC TV programme about tipping)
What's the difference between a Canadian and a canoe?

Answer: a canoe tips.
But does
Tyler too?
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Re: wormy advice

2003-08-14 Thread G. Marc Turner
Just an FYI on the worm... this one actually does not arrive via email. It 
connects directly to a Windows NT4 (workstation  server), Me, 2000, XP, or 
2003 server via Port #135. If it gets a response on that port it uses a 
windows vulnerability that was announced in June to copy and execute itself 
on your machine. Because it arrives in this fashion, most anti-virus 
utilities do not even notice it coming into your computer. And since it 
isn't email related, all of the advice about not opening attachments 
doesn't do any good since it doesn't arrive that way. It is similar to the 
Code Red worm that hit Windows servers several months back (last year?) 
which exploited a windows vulnerability that had been announced a few 
months earlier... The writers of these worms/viruses are exploiting the 
fact that Microsoft does not have a very good system in place for informing 
users about vulnerabilities and the patches to fix them. And if end users 
don't know the patch is there, they tend not to know until it is too late...

One thing to do to help out with this is go to the Automatic Updates 
control panel (it might be something different in WinXP). Put a check next 
to keep my computer up to date. Then choose one of the three options for 
staying up to date. My preference, because I have control issues about my 
computer, is to have it notify me before downloading and notify my before 
installing any updates. If you don't consider yourself very tech oriented, 
the automatically download and automatically install option can be a 
lifesaver since it will do everything for you... but keep in mind that if 
you don't have a high-speed connection, either of the last two options 
might slow you down as your computer connects to the internet to check and 
download the updates.

And to tie this to teaching, does anyone know of psychology research on the 
motivations of virus writers, hackers, etc.? I think it might make for an 
interesting discussion topic in one of my classes when talking about 
attribution and motivation. In fact, as I think about it, just 
brainstorming possible motivations from the perspective of different 
theories might be a fun exercise too.

Hope this helps.
- Marc




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Re: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Smith
Paul Brandon wrote:

 You mean the Green Acres pig?

He's probably running - have you checked?

I will laugh until there are tears running down my cheeks if the
California angry mob politics results in Governor Larry Flynt.

Paul Smith


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Re: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Christopher D. Green
Annette Taylor, Ph. D. wrote:

 Arnold has not done well on talk shows at all when directly asked about policy
 questions. He just says over and over that he will clean things up. Well, DUH!

And how will he do that? In hand-to-hand combat with the Enron crooks who
dirtied things up to begin with?
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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school psych programs in ny

2003-08-14 Thread Ode2Glory


I have been working with a former student on doctoral applications for next year. Does anyone have information on school psych programs in New York State.

Laura Talamo
Great Neck North High School
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RE: Administrivia: Reading Messages, NoMail, etc

2003-08-14 Thread Shearon, Tim









Jean-Marc:

Your solution seems acceptable to me.
Seems like you could have put Canada as place of publishing but, literally, that isnt
correct either (or, maybe, you guys annexed Washington!). J Seriously, I looked on
the net and found this that might get the publication place from one of the
sources: 

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Voice: (250)721-7532
FAX: (250)721-8929
Im sure Dr. Gifford might get a kick out of the problem.

Tim Shearon





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 August 14, 2003 11:59 AM
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Hi Tipsters,
  Here's a pop quiz question for those
of you who like APA formatting challenges:
[]Here's the question:
Wanting to write the book reference, I could not find the city where it was
published. In the book, it only says it was printed in Canada. Nothing more. On
the book website http://www.optimalenvironments.com/optimalbooks.htm
it says that Optimal Books (the publishers) is in Colville, WA. But
inside the book, it does not mention that. Again, it only says it was printed
in Canada.

Jean-Marc
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Timothy O. Shearon, PhD

Albertson College of Idaho

2112 Cleveland Blvd. 

Caldwell, ID 83605



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Re: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Matiya

Do you think he'll "muscle" a few votes?
Jim Matiya Carl Sandburg High School 

131st and LaGrange Road 

Orland Park, IL 60462 

Lewis University. Romeoville, IL 

Moraine Valley Comm. College. Palos Hills, IL 

Illinois Virtual High School. Cyberspace? 

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Subject: calling all California tipsters 
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:35:56 -0700 (PDT) 
 
 Vote for Arnold 
 
MJS 
 
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Re: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Christopher D. Green
Louis_Schmier wrote:

 Larry is what California needs.  Only way to get a handle on the budget is to
 have a governor who is a skin Flynt.

Actually, he's promising to solve the states problems by expanding the
gambling industry. Psychologists take note.
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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Re: calling all California tipsters

2003-08-14 Thread Christopher D. Green
sylvestm wrote:

  Vote for Arnold

...and regret it at your leisure. :-)
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Aubyn Fulton
Louis_Schmier wrote:
Any of you tipsters read George Will in the Washington Post this morning?
I suggest you do.  I won't tell you what he says.  I've got my take on it.
I'd like to hear yours.

PAUL K. BRANDON wrote… 
The Psych Bull article that Will is referring to is a meta-analysis, with
all the limitations of its breed. Since it's based on a wide variety of
verbal reports of what individuals apparently mostly politicians) say that
they would do or say in a specified situation, it is of limited value.

And Will of course has selectively abstracted parts of the report that
suit his politics.

All in all, I'm more disappointed in Psych Bull in publishing the article
in the first place.

Aubyn writes…
Aside from sharing his staunch conservative opposition to the Designated
Hitter (a position all right thinking baseball fans adopt) I long ago
stopped taking Mr. Will seriously, but I don’t begrudge him responding to,
and even being a little insulted by, the thesis put forward by Jost and
others (including Frank Sulloway) that political conservatives are more
likely to be rigid than liberals. Will is essentially an entertainer these
days, so I also don’t really expect him to give a fair reading of the
article.

If one were to take Will seriously, I think the main dispute I would have
with him is his distortion of Jost’s position on the psychological
determinants of all beliefs. Will fills much of his column with assertions
like the following: “Professors have reasons for their beliefs.  Other
people, particularly conservatives, have social and psychological
explanations for their beliefs” and “ The professors have ideas; the rest
of us have emanations of our psychological needs and neuroses” and “…the
professors, who do not say that their judgments arise from social
situations or emotional needs rather than reason”. While Jost et. al. do
argue that conservatives are more likely to be rigid and uncomfortable
with ambiguity, they specifically are not arguing what Will attributes to
them repeatedly, that only conservative beliefs are motivated by
non-rational processes.  Note this passage, only partially quoted by Will:
“Our first assumption, too, is that conservative ideologies—like virtually
all other belief systems—are adopted in part because they satisfy some
psychological needs. This does not mean that conservatism is pathological
or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false, irrational, or
unprincipled.” Will chops the quote up, and exaggerates the emphasis on
the phrase “necessarily false” to make it [inaccurately] seem that Jost is
really exempting liberal beliefs from non-rational motivation.

I don’t understand Dr. Brandon’s disappointment with Psych Bull for
publishing the article – unless he is disappointed with all published
reports of meta-analysis (which would make him one disappointed
psychologist indeed). There is a long and broad literature on the
psychology of political ideology, and it seems appropriate for Psych Bull
to publish a review of this literature from time to time. Jost and company
state up front that whether or not conservative ideology is uniquely
linked to the set of psychological needs and motives they suggest is an
empirical question, and they use acceptable empirical methods to support
their answer. Psych Bull also published a response to Jost et. al. that
argues in the alternative – that the rigid avoidance of ambiguity is not
uniquely associated with conservatives, but is an attribute of ideological
extremists of all kinds. Jost then replies with their explanation of why
they think this is not true, and that conservatives really are uniquely
rigid. I don’t know that these articles will be the last word on this
topic, and it is certainly possible to disagree with elements of both, but
from what I can tell they seem to be of a type and quality that is
consistent with the scope and mission of Psych Bull. Maybe next time they
will publish a review of research on the motivations of liberal ideology.

What would really be disappointing is if Psych Bull were to allow
political and popular pressures and criticisms discourage them from
publishing potentially controversial articles.


Here are the full citations for anyone interested in reading the articles
for themselves:

Political conservatism as motivated social cognition. By Jost, John T.;
Glaser, Jack; Kruglanski, Arie W.; Sulloway, Frank J. Psychological
Bulletin. 2003 May Vol 129(3) 339-375

Psychological and political orientation--The left, the right, and the
rigid: Comment on Jost et al. (2003). By Greenberg, Jeff; Jonas, Eva
Psychological Bulletin. 2003 May Vol 129(3) 376-382

Exceptions that prove the rule--Using a theory of motivated social
cognition to account for ideological incongruities and political
anomalies: Reply to Greenberg and Jonas (2003). By Jost, John T.; Glaser,
Jack; Kruglanski, Arie W.; Sulloway, Frank J. Psychological Bulletin. 2003
May Vol 129(3) 383-393

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Tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Cynthia Bainbridge Mullis, Ph.D.
Tipsters -
Interesting thread, and I too would be quite interested in someone (else!) 
finding out whether men or women tip better.  The lore says that men tip 
better than women, and my experience waiting tables is generally consistent 
with this.  However, I've always wondered if there is a gender interaction 
here:  maybe women tip men better and men tip women better.  Like Allen, I 
tip well unless the server gives me a really good reason not to - this is 
the result of waiting tables myself through much of my early academic 
career.  But in late years I have gone as high as 25% tips for a really 
good server.  Why?  I generally dine out with three spirited children, the 
youngest of whom is now two.  They certainly try to behave, but their motor 
skills are just not fully developed (sigh!).  I clean up after them at home 
in the interests of hygiene and because I love them, but I am fully aware 
that a twenty percent tip is not a sufficient token of appreciation for the 
person who cleans up after three adorable, yet rotten kids just so that I 
don't have to.  Do most parents feel as I do, or are they relatively poor 
tippers? Cindy M.

Cynthia Bainbridge Mullis, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Psychology
University of Wisconsin - Whitewater
800 West Main Street
Whitewater, WI  53190
(262) 472-3037  Office
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Office Hours - Spring 2003
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RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.

2003-08-14 Thread Hetzel, Rod
It is much easier to place people in in-groups and out-groups if we can
dichotomize them.  After all, how do we know who to hate if we can't
pigeon-hole them into overly-simplistic categories?  Political and
religious ideologies are great examples of complex realities that are
too often simplified into dichotomies.  It's much easier to complain
about those bleeding heart Democrats or those hateful fundamentalists
rather than considering the possibility the many shades of gray in the
ideological spectrum.  

I had a methodology professor who used to complain all the time about
researchers who take interval- or ratio-scaled data (e.g., age) and turn
them into categorical data (e.g., young versus old) for their analysis.
In the process, they end up washing-out important distinctions.  I
suppose we also wash out important distinctions when we do this with
variables such as political or religious ideologies.  Why do we do this?
Is it some variant on stereotyping?  Helping us to deal with information
overload by simplying the issues?  Any social psychologists want to
chime in on this question?

  
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Froman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:57 PM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
 Subject: RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.
 
 
 I am not a political scientist but I have friends who are 
 political scientists and I just wonder if anyone else has had 
 the not-so-brilliant thought that the whole 
 left-wing/right-wing dichotomy in political science is way 
 too oversimplified? I just had such a thought today when I 
 read someone referring to privacy as a liberal issue. It may 
 be but there are a lot of right-wing groups that don't want 
 the government involved in their business either. 
 
 There are many problems with a simple left/right dichotomy 
 and I can't believe political scientists haven't figured this 
 out yet. If they have, they are keeping it a secret from the 
 rest of us (including the psychologists who study political 
 motivations). To start with, there are, of course, economic 
 conservatives and liberals and social conservatives and 
 liberals so, at least, there are two axes with four 
 quadrants: the two well-known ones, Libertarians (who are 
 basically social liberals and economic conservatives) and a 
 fourth group of social conservatives and economic liberals 
 (which, if they actually exist, seem to be about as numerous 
 as Kohlberg's Stage 6 reasoners). To consider fascists or 
 communists to be either extremely to the left or to the right 
 of the American political spectrum is ludicrous. They seem to 
 be pretty closely related (at least in their real life 
 manifestations) to one another. I think there may be almost 
 as many dimensions to political thought as there are 
 political issues. To tie in another thread, I think such a 
 one-dimensional dichotomy is even less likely to shine light 
 on a person's motivations than the gender dichotomy or racial 
 distinctions. 
 
 Rick
 
 Dr. Rick Froman
 Associate Professor of Psychology
 John Brown University
 Siloam Springs, AR 72761
 (479) 524-7295
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 -Original Message-
 From: Aubyn Fulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:46 PM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
 Subject: RE: George Will's Washinton Post Column.
 
 Louis_Schmier wrote:
 Any of you tipsters read George Will in the Washington Post 
 this morning? I suggest you do.  I won't tell you what he 
 says.  I've got my take on it. I'd like to hear yours.
 
 PAUL K. BRANDON wrote. 
 The Psych Bull article that Will is referring to is a 
 meta-analysis, with all the limitations of its breed. Since 
 it's based on a wide variety of verbal reports of what 
 individuals apparently mostly politicians) say that they 
 would do or say in a specified situation, it is of limited value.
 
 And Will of course has selectively abstracted parts of the 
 report that suit his politics.
 
 All in all, I'm more disappointed in Psych Bull in publishing 
 the article in the first place.
 
 Aubyn writes.
 Aside from sharing his staunch conservative opposition to the 
 Designated Hitter (a position all right thinking baseball 
 fans adopt) I long ago stopped taking Mr. Will seriously, but 
 I don't begrudge him responding to, and even being a little 
 insulted by, the thesis put forward by Jost and others 
 (including Frank Sulloway) that political conservatives are 
 more likely to be rigid than liberals. Will is essentially an 
 entertainer these days, so I also don't really 

tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Cheri Budzynski



For those of you interested in tipping behavior see Micheal Lynn at Cornell 
University: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/wml3/tipping_information.htm
Cheri A. Budzynski, Ph.D.Department 
ChairAssistant Professor of PsychologyHeidelberg College310 E. 
Market Streetphone: (419) 893 - 1986 ext. 4005Tiffin, OH 
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RE: Undergraduate research contract

2003-08-14 Thread Miguel Roig

Thanks Annette and Rod for responding.  What I have in mind is some
sort of information sheet that describes some of the responsibilities
associated with doing research (e.g., responsible research conduct,
commitment to the project and to the process of scientific discovery),
and that this type of academic experience usually demands a high degree
of academic commitment in terms of time and intellect that can go beyond
a traditional academic experience (e.g., a paper). I guess my
interest in wanting to create such a contract lies, in part, in what I
perceive to be an attitude held by some students that runs something like
research is one more of those hoops that I need to jump through in
order to be sufficiently competitive and get into graduate
school. I have had one too many incidents of students who,
smack in the middle of a project, either drop out or slow their work
activity to a crawl right until the day before a conference or the end of
the semester. In other words, some students appear to treat the
carrying out of a research project like they might treat a course term
paper; something that just has to be done. Frankly, I despise that
attitude. A couple of years ago, I had to retract an accepted
submission to EPA because the student never completed a jointly authored
paper, in spite of assurances by her that she would write the
paper. 
While I accept the attitude that research experience is essential to be a
competitive applicant to graduate school, I do not want that attitude to
serve as the primary motive for those students who get involved in my own
work.
Miguel

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RE: Not Sure What to Call This Message

2003-08-14 Thread Gary Klatsky
This is my last comment on this. You have made my point too clearly. Where
in anything I have written to you or about you have I said that I think your
opinions represent an uninformed, frivolous, inexperienced, vaccuous,
dreamy, and isolated inductive leap.  And you claim we misread what you
write. Louis, there is no point in disagreeing with you.


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 -Original Message-
From:   Louis_Schmier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, August 09, 2003 4:22 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject:RE: Not Sure What to Call This Message

Gary, I can truly appreciate that you all are psychologists with a
scientific training and that I am a historian with a social science and
humanity training (that was only after I blew my pre-med program one
semester with four F's and an A), I am, however, well versed in the
sciences having had a minor in the history and philosophy of science.
And that is not cut and dry as I recollect there was a discussion, a
vigorous discussion, a while back about whether psychology was a hard
science or a social  science.  It's a discussion that traces itself back
to the Enlightenment of the 18th century when the discipline was truly
born.  And heck, on my campus, the Pysch department is in the School of
Education almost as a service department because of political decisions
made decades ago that took it out of A  S.

Anyway, there is a misunderstanding.  I have been in this
business of education virtually all my life.  Since I went to
kindergarten way back in 1946, I have been in school in one capacity or
another without a break.  I wholeheartedly agree, as that Yiddish saying
goes, a for instance  is not proof.  When, however, I relate a story of
a particular student or a particular colleague or describe a particular
event or talk of myself, or discuss a priciple of teaching method or share
an aspect of my educational philosophy, do not think I am not taking an
uninformed, frivolous, inexperienced, vaccuous, dreamy, and isolated
inductive leap.  Whether I explicate or infer, I see in that person and/or
incident an incapsulation, evidence of, a conclusion about, a raising of a
question about, an issue drawn from years of observations and experiences
and reflections drawn, in turn, from endless reading of student journals,
endless observation, endless reflection and contemplation, endless
listening, countless small talks, endless inter-actions with colleagues
and students on my campus, on the internet, at conferences, etc.

But, even if it was otherwise, a story serves, as Marcus Aurelius
observed, a very important purpose.  Even a single event is something of
that proverbial step which is a critical part of a thousand mile journey.
It reveals the human condition with which both of our disciplines are
concerned and reminds each of us of possibilities and potentials of
viewing ourselves and others in different and deeper ways.  Stories are a
way of sharing and teaching and learning.

So, maybe being an active participant on this list, I, at least,
serve the valuable purpose of demonstrating that there are indeed
alternative and legitimate ways of looking at other people, oneself,
surroundings in both a personal and professional context.


 Make it a good day.

   --Louis--


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Department of Historywww.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html
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Re: Tips on Tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Gail Hayes
Depending on the amount of tax charged, another way of estimating the tip is
doubling tax.  In New York, this usually covers the customary 15% .

Gail M. Hayes

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: Tips on Tipping


 As I think the original request was for common behaviors that can be
related
 to psychological topics, I think the question of how one figures a
standard
 tip is also interesting. I see people using little tip tables that give
 15% of various amounts in table form, but without such a table, how one
 represents the problem can make a big difference in problem difficulty.
 We're taught to figure things like this by multiplying the total bill by
 .15, and we're taught to do problems like that using a complicated
 algorithm* that amounts to manipulation of symbols. That algorithm is too
 complicated for most of us to do mentally, without at least writing down
 intermediate answers, something which is often not possible when figuring
a
 tip (due to lack of pencil and paper).

 But there are other ways to figure 15% besides that kind of symbol
 manipulation. I usually figure 10% (simply by moving over the decimal
point
 mentally), and then figure (again, mentally) half of that number (which is
 then 5% of the total), and then (yet again mentally) add the two.
 Alternatively, one could figure 10%, and then 20% (simply by doubling the
 10%) and then figure the halfway mark between those two numbers (I haven't
 used that method, and I don't know if it would be too taxing for me).

 I'll bet there are other ways that people use besides these, and I'd think
 they might lead to an interesting discussion of the role of mental
 representation in mathematical problem solving. Most Introductory texts
have
 a chapter on Language, Thinking, and Problem Solving where the relevant
 material would be found. I suspect that most of the people who still try
to
 use the symbol manipulation algorithm in the tipping context also believe
 that symbol manipulation method they've been taught IS multiplication, and
 don't realize that it's just one of many devices for finding the answer to
 multiplication problems.

 * Okay, class, remember, start by multiplying the ones column, and write
 your answer below the ones column, carrying any tens you get up to the top
 of the tens column. Then take the tens column from the first multiplicand
 times the ones column from the second...

 Paul Smith
 Alverno College
 Milwaukee


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Re: Tips on Tipping

2003-08-14 Thread Allen Esterson
On Fri 8 August Robert Keefer wrote:

... In England, tipping is often frowned upon!  One magazine article I
read while there bemoaned the practice of tipping, blaming the influx of
American tourists and American ideas about paying servers.  Wait staff in
the UK have apparently not been paid with tips 'figured in' as they are
here, and the article complained that that was all changing.  A tip for
great service in London was 10%, with some leaving less or even nothing,
depending the restaurant (here I always tip 20%, as I spent 6 summers
during high school and college working in a restaurant).

I think one has to be careful about generalisations about such things (and
others!). I live in London and am no great restaurant-goer, but from my
limited experience I’d say that that 10% is regarded as the norm for
tipping. I’m not talking about more expensive restaurants in the West End
and such-like, which may be what the writer of the magazine article has in
mind, though I’d guess that the great majority of people who frequent such
places tip at least 10%. You have to keep in mind that the author of such
an article is only writing about what happens within the circle he/she
mixes with, and about their observations. My view on this is certainly no
more valid than that of the writer in question (quite possibly less), but
it does not tally with his/hers.

In the past it was always the case in England that the wage for waiting
[sic] in restaurants was pitifully low, and a good chunk of what waiters
and waitresses ended up with came from tips. To what extent that remains
the case I couldn’t say.

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
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www.human-nature.com/esterson/index.html

www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=10

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Re: The prevention of dissemination of scientific knowledge

2003-08-14 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Hi Wally

We have access via our library to more recent articles from the American 
Psychologist via PsycInfo and PsyArticles. If your institution has this, then 
your students can each log on and read the articles on their screens, or print 
them out individually if they so desire, for their own, private use. If the 
articles are more than a few years old then you could get a copy and make it 
available for them to read. At our library we have an e-reserve system where 
the articles are uploaded in PDF for reading only. Or we have the old reserve 
system where they check the article out for an hour or two to read or 
photocopy, as they desire.

Those are my suggestions which will keep your conscience clear.

Annette

Quoting Wallace E. Dixon, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   I must be daft, but I would've thought since the major 
 Kinko's lawsuit several years ago, publishers of scientific journals 
 would've placed a greater value on the dissemination of scientific 
 knowledge than on revenue enhancement, and would've adjusted their 
 copyright policies accordingly.  Maybe some publishers do, but not 
 the APA.  I will  need to be edified about the underlying rationale 
 for why scientific journals find it useful to place obstacles in the 
 free and unfettered dissemination of scientific knowledge, because I 
 can't see it.  Anyone who can straighten me out, please do.
   So here's the deal.  As you may remember from my last 
 request, I am trying to gather provocative and exciting articles 
 published in the scientific literature to accompany a textbook for my 
 graduate research methods class.  I found at least two dozen very 
 cool articles in the American Psychologist.  Being rule-minded as I 
 am, I checked their copyright policy.  I did this pro-forma because I 
 had assumed that APA would be at the cutting-edge about publication 
 policy for the distribution of their copyrighted articles for use in 
 academic courses.  But you know what happens when you assume!  Not 
 only am I not allowed to copy and distribute more than a single APA 
 article to my students freely, but I have to pay 35 cents per page 
 per student.  This figure came from the Copyright Clearance Center.
   Now I am confronted with three courses of action: 1) not 
 share the articles with my students, 2) break the copyright law and 
 distribute the articles anyway, or 3) find some loophole that will 
 allow my students to get copies of these articles without any of us 
 breaking the law.
   I am writing to TIPS to follow up on the third option.  Have 
 any of you found ways of accomplishing this objective without 
 becoming a criminal?
 
 Wally Dixon
 
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RE: Not Sure What to Call This Message

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Now wait a minute.  You're splitting semantic hairs.  Didn't you say that
the instances I share cannot be used for the purposes of making sweeping
generalizations?  That they serve no scientific purpose.  If I misread
you, I'm sorry.  I made the point that I didn't just didn't just pull my
positions out of the air and use these people and instance to make up
unfounded generalizations or used inductively to prove the validity of
assumed and preconceived truths.  I maintain that they are valid and need
consideration even though they cannot be subject to double blind studies
and statistical analysis.  They are the deductive sum of observations,
study, and serious reflections, and thereby have a great validity.  And
again, I agree your (editorially) orientation is how you described it.
On the other hand, I know some psychologists and psychiartrists who are
humanists.  I say that there are other equally valid ways of discovering
truths, especially about that complex and complicated human being.  You
may not agree or accept my approach, and this is your right.  You rightly
ask me to consider your (editorially) approach; I do and I find it
incomplete.  I reciprocate with my request to give me some credit for
arriving at my positions.  This time you do me the public injustice.

Make it a good day.

   --Louis--


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Department of Historywww.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html
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Re: Not Sure What to Call This Message

2003-08-14 Thread Judith Roberts
Louis -
Thank you for your heartfelt note.  I have appreciated what you have
shared with this list and am glad to hear that I will be able to
continue to do so.  What I appreciate most about what you have written
here is that you have given a human side of you.  Although I suspect you
have never intended it, many of your other posts have left an impression
of you that you have no doubts, fears, or exasperations in the teaching
or personal arenas.  This can have a tendency to make some others feel a
little bit more like they are hopelessly lost and not up to the task. 
(Perhaps this is part of the reason some people have flamed so much... 
Although this is no excuse)  I think my general request would be, if you
find that something you are doing in the teaching process doesn't work
out, how did you work it to make it better?  That might help some of
us...  
I really appreciate all that you have written.  And, what you have
written just now is a wonderful added dimension that makes you more
visible as a human being.
- Judith Roberts
City College of San Francisco
(mostly a lurker...  )

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/09/03 06:12 AM 
Gary, I have to admit I'm nervous about sending this response to
your request to go public with all my responses.  I guess I'm edgy that
all I will be doing is providing what some will crack into gasoline to
pour onto their fire.  Being nervous is okay; letting my nervousness
control me is not.  I tell that constantly to the students; I cannot do
otherwise.  So, you want me to go public with my comments.  Fine. Here
goes.

I freely admit that often I am saddened and often I am stunned
when well-intentioned and well-educated people make personal accusations
on my character and motives while ignoring the questions I ask and
issues
I raise that associated with pedagogy specifically and education in
general.  I know there is a diverse population on this list.  I know
each
of us is not above human fraility.  I know I cannot please everyone and
be
the person each of you may want me to be, do what you may want me to do,
say what you may want me to say.  This is a discussion list on Teaching
in
Psychology.  Many of you prefer to focus on the psychology aspect of
this
list.  Many of you, as do I, prefer to focus on the teaching aspect of
this list.  I am an accompished historian by training and achievements
and
reputation.  I take pride that I am struggling to be a teacher in every
sense of the word. I cannot hope to engage on any equal footing in any
discussion on the subject of psychology, although as any student I
reserve
the right to ask questions.  I can engage in discussions on educational
philosophy, in and out of classroom experiences, teaching methods and
techniques, student involvement in learning, and my intertwined personal
and professional self.  I know I do not know who each of you are as some
of you think you know all about me.  If anyone wants to know anything
about me, as I tell the students on the first day of class, ask
away--respectfully.  What do you want to know about me; I have nothing
to
hide.

It is a mistake to be someone other than myself, although
myself
is more of a term of on-going developing process than stasis.  It is
equally a mistake to think I can please everyone.  It is a mistake to
think everyone will agree with my views.  It is still another mistake to
think that everyone will read every word closely.  And, it is still yet
another mistake to write to each of you rather than write from myself.
It can be discouraging when decent, informed, sincere people will take
offense and be offensive by well-intentioned reflections, sharing of
experiences, celebration of student potential and achievements,
comemoration of learning, sharing of educational philosophies.  I am
willing to run that risk.  I think an on-going discussion on teaching,
learning, purpose, and philosophy are that important.

At times, I can be sloppy stylistically.  I write in a state of
spontaneity.  Sometimes, my fingers go faster than my mind.  I don't
tweek, rewrite, for fear of the presence of my lurking demon who had for
too long controlled me:  contrivance.  There are times I may
carelessly
paint too broad of a brush and inadvently omit a qualifying many or
too
few or some, leaving such modifiers to inference rather than clumsily
and awkwardly inserting them every time.  I can be too quick to hit the
send key and forgot first to hit the spell check key or omit a word or
two here and there.  I would hope after all this time many of you would
understand, but if some of you want to avoid the issue and nitpick on
style, that, too, I am willing to risk.  I am a big boy; I have a thick
skin.  After over a decade of self-reflection and transformation, I
don't
have the fragile ego as some of you assert.  If I did, I would have
retreated into the shadows of lurking long ago.

Of course, we each are accountable for what we say and do.  We
each should be respectful 

Re: The prevention of dissemination of scientific knowledge

2003-08-14 Thread Wallace E. Dixon, Jr.
Annette,
Thanks for the tips.  Unfortunately, we don't have psyarticles.  And
although we have an e-reserve system, we are apparently not permitted to
have more than a single article from a journal issue on e-reserve.  The
articles I chose were from several series of articles within individual
issues, and so would violate that restriction.  I could put articles on
reserve for students to copy, and that may be what I resort to, but that
sure is silly.  Related to this, does anyone know whether I can put articles
on reserve in my office for students to come and copy.  Or alternatively,
can I make several copies of individual articles for my own use, and then
loan them out to students who happen to be interested in reading them?

Wedj

On 8/14/03 9:53 PM, Annette Taylor, Ph. D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Wally
 
 We have access via our library to more recent articles from the American
 Psychologist via PsycInfo and PsyArticles. If your institution has this, then
 your students can each log on and read the articles on their screens, or print
 them out individually if they so desire, for their own, private use. If the
 articles are more than a few years old then you could get a copy and make it
 available for them to read. At our library we have an e-reserve system where
 the articles are uploaded in PDF for reading only. Or we have the old reserve
 system where they check the article out for an hour or two to read or
 photocopy, as they desire.
 
 Those are my suggestions which will keep your conscience clear.
 
 Annette
 
 Quoting Wallace E. Dixon, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I must be daft, but I would've thought since the major
 Kinko's lawsuit several years ago, publishers of scientific journals
 would've placed a greater value on the dissemination of scientific
 knowledge than on revenue enhancement, and would've adjusted their
 copyright policies accordingly.  Maybe some publishers do, but not
 the APA.  I will  need to be edified about the underlying rationale
 for why scientific journals find it useful to place obstacles in the
 free and unfettered dissemination of scientific knowledge, because I
 can't see it.  Anyone who can straighten me out, please do.
 So here's the deal.  As you may remember from my last
 request, I am trying to gather provocative and exciting articles
 published in the scientific literature to accompany a textbook for my
 graduate research methods class.  I found at least two dozen very
 cool articles in the American Psychologist.  Being rule-minded as I
 am, I checked their copyright policy.  I did this pro-forma because I
 had assumed that APA would be at the cutting-edge about publication
 policy for the distribution of their copyrighted articles for use in
 academic courses.  But you know what happens when you assume!  Not
 only am I not allowed to copy and distribute more than a single APA
 article to my students freely, but I have to pay 35 cents per page
 per student.  This figure came from the Copyright Clearance Center.
 Now I am confronted with three courses of action: 1) not
 share the articles with my students, 2) break the copyright law and
 distribute the articles anyway, or 3) find some loophole that will
 allow my students to get copies of these articles without any of us
 breaking the law.
 I am writing to TIPS to follow up on the third option.  Have
 any of you found ways of accomplishing this objective without
 becoming a criminal?
 
 Wally Dixon
 
 -- 
 
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 Chair and Associate Professor| Rocket science is child's play
of Psychology| compared to understanding
 Department of Psychology| child's play
 East Tennessee State University|   -unknown
 Johnson City, TN 36714|
 (423) 439-6656|
 
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RE: mom....dad...look at this or dad.... mom.... look at this

2003-08-14 Thread Maloney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Good stuff. I'll 
definitely tell my students about it. I don't know of any specific 
research, but it sure sounds like an interesting thesis 
paper!

  -Original Message-From: J L Edwards 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:36 
  AMTo: Teaching in the Psychological SciencesSubject: 
  "momdad...look at this" or "dad mom look at 
  this"
  My husband and I were in a large pet store and there were 
  lots of kids there with their parents. I noticed when the kids saw something 
  they wanted their parents to see, it was always (N = 17, limited data, 
  I admit, and anecdotal evidence) "Mom, dad...look, 
  come here, etc." Gender was irrelevant; during my naturalistic 
  observations,"mom" was consistently named first. I'm ASSUMING the 
  mothers in these families are the primary care givers and I'm wondering if the 
  order of parental solicitationis related to this. 
  
  Any data?
  
  Jean Edwards 
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Re: Random Thought: Sports In Education

2003-08-14 Thread Cheri Budzynski
We need to also be very careful about lumping all athletics together and
realize that many coaches do not get paid big bucks and they do build
character. As a female hockey player in grad school, our coaches did not get
paid and volunteered their time. We also had to pay for our own ice time and
it was always late at night. I was a late comer to sports and that
experience taught me the value of team sports. We lost to every team (except
Ohio State : ) ) but we always had a great time on the ice and I learned the
value of athletics.

Casting everyone into the same group is unfair.

Cheri

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Re:A Scary Non- Realization

2003-08-14 Thread Louis_Schmier
Herb, I'm going to reply off-list as I have been doing with others and not
take up time and space of others.


Make it a good day.

   --Louis--


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Department of Historywww.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html
Valdosta State University
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