Re: Fwd: A favor

2003-10-07 Thread Donald McBurney


First, on the after images: I don't know why green and orange were
chosen, because they are not opponents. (orange is opposite purple-ish
blue) If the student looked at orange and then green, the green should
have been shifted toward blue. If the adapting patch
was smaller than the test patch, then it would have stood out.
If they were the same size, it could have been missed. Then looking
at white would have given red. Looking at three patches in a row introduces
complications, because the effects of adapting to the orange add/subtract
to the effects of adapting to green, depending on time. Stick to
red--white, green--white.
Concerning the taste experiment: If PTC was the only bitter substance
tested, then he is probably PTC blind--not at all unusual. (And probably
not the trigger of a migraine.) If so, he would be less sensitive
to other bitters (coffee, etc) but not insensitive. Oil of almond
may be bitter, but it is also a strong olfactory stimulus. You should
use something like quinine.
Why do the taste map? This is a caraciture of actual differences
in taste senstivity over the tongue as has been discussed several times
on this list. Differences in threshold are small--only on the order
of 2 or 3 to 1 from place to place (except the center of the tongue, which
is insensitive to taste.) They would probably be missed in any small
study. Differences in suprathreshold magnitudes would also be difficult
to measure accurately in such a demonstration.
don
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>From: "Jodi Gabert"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: A favor
>Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:41:16 -0400
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>Hi Jim,
>For some reason, TIPS is not working for me, can't even access the
home site. Anyhow, could you post a question for me?
>
>Recently, my hs intro psychology class finished a sensory lab (taste
map, two point threshold, etc). One of my students came to me and appologized
because he could not see an afterimage when asked to focus on an orange
and then a green strip of paper then look at a white sheet of paper.
>He isn't color blind,we checked that out. But what specifically would
cause the inability not to see an afterimage?
>Also, same kid, different question. When we did a supertaster lab
(used PTC paper), he recorded no sense of bitter, the next day he asked
if there could be a delayed reaction to PTC paper because three hours later
he had a migrane. I told him to not do the bitter (oil of almond) taste
map in the lab because of my concerns it could trigger a migrane. He did
and had no aftereffect.
>Can any Tipsters help me out?
>
>Jodi Gabert
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>Thanks Jim, hopefully I'll be able to access TIPS all by myself soon.
But you didn't answer my last question..
>Where do you get the Freud Bobbleheads???


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visualizing goals

2003-10-07 Thread Herb Coleman

Subject: Need Help
From: Annette Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi everyone:

I need help again.

My son's hockey coach has asked me to put together a little program to
give to the players--14 to 16 years old--about the use of visualization to
help with their performance. I think he wants a presentation and handout.
(He thinks because I teach psychology I KNOW these things!)
 

Ok I'm going out on a limb here (catch me Shirley McClain).  However I 
remember hearing in the early 1980's how the Dallas Cowboys used 
visualization with a Samahdi flotation tank.  It apparently started with 
the kicker, Rafael Septien.  While floating in the tank he was shown 
highlight films of himself kicking perfect field goals and extra points. 
During this time he had 3 seasons where he made 100% of his point after 
kicks.  H scored in the 90's the other seasons.  He also made between 60 
and 80% of his field goals.  According to announcers of the day, the 
Cowboys also used this techniques with Tony Dorsett and other players to 
help them visualize themselves making perfect runs or perfect tackles.

http://www.cadt.de/reading/Floater.htm

Ok, so you don't have $1700-$10,000 for a tank.  It seems to me that if 
you simply recorded the players games and practices.  Edit the tape down 
to their most perfect performances and have them watch these tapes in a 
relaxed state, you should get the same effect.  

Anyone want to apply to the INSTITUTE NOETIC SCIENCES for a grant?

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Zimbardo: A World Transformed, indeed by the son of a gun

2003-10-07 Thread Patrick O. Dolan
Can anybody confirm that this came from Zimbardo, and that the quote
is accurate?

Patrick

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:16:09 -0700
From: Phil Zimbardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: A World Transformed, indeed by the son of a gun


10 6 03

YOU MIGHT FIND THIS STATEMENT BY GEORGE BUSH SENIOR IN HIS MEMOIRS, 
WORLD  TRANSFORMED NTERESTING ABOUT WHY HE DECIDED NOT TO TRY TO
ELIMINATE  SADDAM  HUSSEIN WHEN U. S. FORCES COULD HAVE DONE SO AFTER
THE GULF WAR.

In his memoirs,  written five years ago, George Bush, Senior, wrote
the following to explain why he didn't go after Saddam  Hussein at the
end of the Gulf War.  Trying to eliminate Saddam...would have
incurred incalculable human and political costs.  Apprehending him was
probably impossible  We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad
and, in effect, rule Iraq  there was no viable exit strategy we
could see, violating another of our  principles.  Furthermore, we had
been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression
in the post-Cold War world.  Going in and occupying Iraq, thus
unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have
destroyed the  precedent of international response to aggression that
we hoped to establish.  Had we gone the invasion route, the United
States could conceivably  still be an occupying power in a bitterly
hostile land.

[If only his son had read his father's memoirs, or some say if only
his son could read.]

Phil Zimbardo


Cordially,
Philip Zimbardo, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305
(650) 723 7498
home fax: (415) 673-2294
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Re: I need help finding photos (non-teaching related)

2003-10-07 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Hi Rod:

You might try the news service archives; there were some very dramatic 
pictorial collections publishes online shortly after we went into Iraq that 
were extremely dramatic.

Annette

Quoting Hetzel, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Hey folks.  I'm putting together a powerpoint file for a talk I'm giving
 soon on emotions and coping.  I need to find real life photos with real
 life people going through real life difficult times.  I'm not looking
 for anything staged or posed like you might see in some advertisements.
 Anyone know of any websites that has this kind of stuff?  I'm finding
 some stuff at images.google.com, but it is pretty much hit and miss.
 Thanks in advance for this non-teaching request!  Rod  
 
 
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RE: I need help finding photos (non-teaching related)

2003-10-07 Thread Hetzel, Rod
Thanks Annette...And this is a dumb question, but how do I find these
news service archives?  I've tried looking at places like www.cnn.com or
www.time.com but it's still pretty hit or miss in terms of finding
decent photos.  Rod 

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 -Original Message-
 From: Annette Taylor, Ph. D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:32 AM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
 Subject: Re: I need help finding photos (non-teaching related)
 
 
 Hi Rod:
 
 You might try the news service archives; there were some very 
 dramatic 
 pictorial collections publishes online shortly after we went 
 into Iraq that 
 were extremely dramatic.
 
 Annette
 
 Quoting Hetzel, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
  Hey folks.  I'm putting together a powerpoint file for a talk I'm 
  giving soon on emotions and coping.  I need to find real 
 life photos 
  with real life people going through real life difficult times.  I'm 
  not looking for anything staged or posed like you might see in some 
  advertisements. Anyone know of any websites that has this kind of 
  stuff?  I'm finding some stuff at images.google.com, but it 
 is pretty 
  much hit and miss. Thanks in advance for this non-teaching 
 request!  Rod
  
  
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  Department of Psychology
  LeTourneau University
  Post Office Box 7001
  2100 South Mobberly Avenue
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Re: Zimbardo: A World Transformed, indeed by the son of a gun

2003-10-07 Thread pkspiegel


H'mm. Interesting. I have received this same message, forwarded by friends, at least twice. But, it was unattributed. We should just ask Phil.
Patricia Keith-Spiegel
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick O. Dolan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2003 7:43 am
Subject: Zimbardo: A World Transformed, indeed by the son of a gun

 Can anybody confirm that this came from Zimbardo, and that the quote  is accurate?   Patrick   **  Patrick O. Dolan, Ph.D.  Assistant Professor  Department of Psychology  Drew University  Madison, NJ 07940  973-408-3558  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  **   -- Forwarded message --  Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:16:09 -0700  From: Phil Zimbardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: Fwd: A World Transformed, indeed by the son of a gun10 6 03   YOU MIGHT FIND THIS STATEMENT BY GEORGE BUSH SENIOR IN HIS  MEMOIRS, "  WORLD TRANSFORMED" NTERESTING ABOUT WHY HE DECIDED NOT TO TRY TO  ELIMINATE SADDAM HUSSEIN WHEN U. S. FORCES COULD HAVE DONE SO AFTER  THE GULF WAR.  
 In his memoirs, " written five years ago, George Bush, Senior, wrote  the following to explain why he didn't go after Saddam Hussein at the  end of the Gulf War. "Trying to eliminate Saddam...would have  incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was  probably impossible We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad  and, in effect, rule Iraq there was no viable "exit strategy" we  could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had  been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression  in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus  unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have  destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that  we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United  States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly 
 hostile land."   [If only his son had read his father's memoirs, or some say if only  his son could read.]   Phil ZimbardoCordially,  Philip Zimbardo, Ph.D.  Professor of Psychology  Stanford University  Stanford, CA 94305  (650) 723 7498  home fax: (415) 673-2294  -  www.zimbardo.com  www.prisonexp.org  www.shyness.com  www.psychologymatters.org---  You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-tips-  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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this time want opinions

2003-10-07 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
I call on tipsters collective wisdom again.

This weekend is Borders 25% off sale (I think it's a nationwide event) for 
educators--usually they exclude college faculty but this one includes us.

I have a long wishlist on my Amazon cite that I am copying in below and would 
like it if any of you have a strong feeling one way or another about any of 
these books if you could speak up. I don't need a long discussion, just a yay 
or a nay is pretty good from most of you who reply regularly. I trust you. But 
my list has gotten overwhelming and I'll be lucky if I can afford 3 or 4 books--
if they can get them in stock by then!

Thanks

Annette

Working: People Talk About What They Do All Day and How They Feel About What 
They Do by Studs Terkel 

Star Trek on the Brain: Alien Minds, Human Minds by Robert Sekuler, et al 

The Skeptic's Dictionary: A Collection of Strange Beliefs, Amusing Deceptions, 
and Dangerous Delusions by Robert Todd Carroll (Author), Robert T. Carroll 

Hemispheric Asymmetry: What's Right and What's Left by Joseph B. Hellige 
Usually ships in 24 hours

Blaming the Brain : The Truth About Drugs and Mental Health by Elliot 
Valenstein (Author) 

Punished By Rewards: The Trouble with Gold Stars, Incentive Plans, A's, Praise, 
and Other Bribes by Alfie Kohn (Author) 

Encounters With the Paranormal: Science, Knowledge, and Belief by Kendrick 
Frazier (Editor)

Rocks of Ages: Science and Religion in the Fullness of Life by Stephen Jay 
Gould 

Your God Is Too Small by J. B. Phillips 

Psychology Through the Eyes of Faith by David Myers (Author) 


What's Right With Feminism by Elaine Storkey 


Madness and Civilization: A History of Insanity in the Age of Reason by Michel 
Foucault 

Remembering Trauma by Richard J. McNally 

Seductive Mirage: An Exploration of the Work of Sigmund Freud by Allen Esterson 

Unauthorized Freud: Doubters Confront a Legend by Frederick Crews (Editor) 

Dumbing Down Our Kids: Why American Children Feel Good About Themselves but 
Can't Read, Write, or Add by Charles J. Sykes 

The Feel-Good Curriculum: The Dumbing Down of America's Kids in the Name of 
Self-Esteem by Maureen, Ph.D. Stout, Ph.D., Maureen Stout 

Science and Pseudoscience in Clinical Psychology by Scott O. Lilienfeld 
(Editor), et al 

Everyday Statistical Reasoning: Possibilities and Pitfalls (College Version) by 
Timothy J. Lawson 



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RE: agenesis of corpus callosum

2003-10-07 Thread Duncan Blackman
Hi
This topic caught my interest and since I am somewhat of a tangential
thinker, I thought that I'd pass along a somewhat relevant tidbit of
information.

An article on the original Rain Man conveys details of the neurological
damage of the person who inspired the story.

 Kim Peek was born on November 11, 1951. He had an enlarged head, with an
encephalocele, according to his doctors. An MRI shows, again according to
his doctors, an absent corpus callosum--the connecting tissue between the
left and right hemispheres; no anterior commissure and damage to the
cerebellum. Only a thin layer of skull covers the area of the previous
encephalocele.  (Source:
http://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.org/savant/kimpeek.cfm)

I'd recommend this site for all students of neuropsychology.  It's
certainly a great example of how a person can adapt to major structural
damage.

More reading on savants can be found at
http://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.org/savant/topics.cfm .

-Duncan
Duncan H. Blackman, M.A., Registered Psychologist
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self harm

2003-10-07 Thread alexia elliott
Dear Tipsters,

In regards to self harm,

If someone has for many years placed a  boiling  hot water bottle upon their
stomach (with no cover) with the intention  to self harm, which it did
initally,  but now after many years, doing it  daily, it causes no pain.

 would it still be considered self harm? although it doesnt cause the person
any pain now, only comfort.

Alexia


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Re: visualizing goals

2003-10-07 Thread Donald McBurney
I have been watching this thread, but I can't help noting that sports teams
are famous for following pseudoscientific fads.  When Sid Thrift was general
manager (?) of the Pittsburgh Pirates, he made the underside of the bill of
their caps green because that was a calming color, had players do eye movement
exercises, etc.  I don't recall just when this was, but their record didn't
imrove.
When Johnny Majors was coach of the Pittsburgh Panthers (the second
time--he won the national championship the first time, as I recall) he was not
having much success.   One of his people approached me because Coach was
considering hiring Silva Mind Control to help motivate the players.  (SMC was
started by a kingergarten dropout and involves lots of new age techniques.)  I
recommended against it, but have no idea whether they hired them. They
lost, in any case.(and Majors was eventually fired).
I am sure this is the corner of the tip of a very large iceberg.
don
Donald McBurney


Herb Coleman wrote:

 Subject: Need Help
 From: Annette Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
 X-Message-Number: 3
 
 
 Hi everyone:
 
 I need help again.
 
 My son's hockey coach has asked me to put together a little program to
 give to the players--14 to 16 years old--about the use of visualization to
 help with their performance. I think he wants a presentation and handout.
 
 (He thinks because I teach psychology I KNOW these things!)
 
 
 Ok I'm going out on a limb here (catch me Shirley McClain).  However I
 remember hearing in the early 1980's how the Dallas Cowboys used
 visualization with a Samahdi flotation tank.  It apparently started with
 the kicker, Rafael Septien.  While floating in the tank he was shown
 highlight films of himself kicking perfect field goals and extra points.
  During this time he had 3 seasons where he made 100% of his point after
 kicks.  H scored in the 90's the other seasons.  He also made between 60
 and 80% of his field goals.  According to announcers of the day, the
 Cowboys also used this techniques with Tony Dorsett and other players to
 help them visualize themselves making perfect runs or perfect tackles.

 http://www.cadt.de/reading/Floater.htm

 Ok, so you don't have $1700-$10,000 for a tank.  It seems to me that if
 you simply recorded the players games and practices.  Edit the tape down
 to their most perfect performances and have them watch these tapes in a
 relaxed state, you should get the same effect.

 Anyone want to apply to the INSTITUTE NOETIC SCIENCES for a grant?

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Re: visualizing goals

2003-10-07 Thread Stephen Black
On 7 Oct 2003, Donald McBurney wrote:

 I have been watching this thread, but I can't help noting that
 sports teams are famous for following pseudoscientific fads.
snip
 I am sure this is the corner of the tip of a very large iceberg.
   

Another tip of the iceberg to the prohibition against having sex 
before a game (supposedly drains your strength or something). I 
recall someone pointing out that the problem wasn't the sex itself 
but what you had to do in order to get it that impaired your athletic 
performance.

Stephen
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RE: self harm

2003-10-07 Thread Rick Froman
It depends on whether you are looking at the behavior (hot water bottle on
the stomach) or at the objective results (tissue destruction). We know the
behavior has been reinforced from the beginning simply because it recurred.
Nothing has changed now that less tissue damage is being done. It may not
look like your idea of fun but all we have to go by is the recurrence of the
behavior to see that it is being reinforced. 

Pain is simply a signal being sent to our brain to tell us that one of our
members is in danger of being damaged. It may be that the pain sensors have
been disabled by the repeated burning so that they can't send their message.
That doesn't mean that damage is not still being done. In fact, a part of
the body that is insensitive to pain is likely to suffer more harm than a
part that is sensitive to pain. 

So, in answer to the question, is it still self-harm?, I would say that it
is self-harm if there is tissue damage even if the person feels no pain.

Rick

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John Brown University
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-Original Message-
From: alexia elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: self harm

Dear Tipsters,

In regards to self harm,

If someone has for many years placed a  boiling  hot water bottle upon their
stomach (with no cover) with the intention  to self harm, which it did
initally,  but now after many years, doing it  daily, it causes no pain.

 would it still be considered self harm? although it doesnt cause the person
any pain now, only comfort.

Alexia


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Re: visualizing goals

2003-10-07 Thread Donald McBurney


Stephen Black wrote:

 On 7 Oct 2003, Donald McBurney wrote:

  I have been watching this thread, but I can't help noting that
  sports teams are famous for following pseudoscientific fads.
 snip
  I am sure this is the corner of the tip of a very large iceberg.
 

 Another tip of the iceberg to the prohibition against having sex
 before a game (supposedly drains your strength or something). I
 recall someone pointing out that the problem wasn't the sex itself
 but what you had to do in order to get it that impaired your athletic
 performance.


I am trying hard to visualize what you mean.  :-)
don


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Re: self harm

2003-10-07 Thread alexia elliott
Dear Rick,

Thankyou very much,
 Makes perfect sense, you have been a great help
 Regards Alexia
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It depends on whether you are looking at the behavior (hot water bottle on
the stomach) or at the objective results (tissue destruction). We know the
behavior has been reinforced from the beginning simply because it recurred.
Nothing has changed now that less tissue damage is being done. It may not
look like your idea of fun but all we have to go by is the recurrence of the
behavior to see that it is being reinforced.

Pain is simply a signal being sent to our brain to tell us that one of our
members is in danger of being damaged. It may be that the pain sensors have
been disabled by the repeated burning so that they can't send their message.
That doesn't mean that damage is not still being done. In fact, a part of
the body that is insensitive to pain is likely to suffer more harm than a
part that is sensitive to pain.

So, in answer to the question, is it still self-harm?, I would say that it
is self-harm if there is tissue damage even if the person feels no pain.

Rick

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Associate Professor of Psychology
John Brown University
Siloam Springs, AR 72761
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-Original Message-
From: alexia elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: self harm

Dear Tipsters,

In regards to self harm,

If someone has for many years placed a  boiling  hot water bottle upon their
stomach (with no cover) with the intention  to self harm, which it did
initally,  but now after many years, doing it  daily, it causes no pain.

 would it still be considered self harm? although it doesnt cause the person
any pain now, only comfort.

Alexia


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Re: Zimbardo: A World Transformed, indeed by the son of a gun

2003-10-07 Thread Jim Matiya

Hi Tipsters,
Iwrote to Dr Zimbardo and asked if he wrote the message that Pat Dolan posted this afternoon. He told that yes he did. 
Jim
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From: "Patrick O. Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Zimbardo: A World Transformed, indeed by the son of a gun 
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:43:42 -0400 
 
Can anybody confirm that this came from Zimbardo, and that the quote 
is accurate? 
 
Patrick 
 
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:16:09 -0700 
From: Phil Zimbardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Fwd: A World Transformed, indeed by the son of a gun 
 
 
10 6 03 
 
YOU MIGHT FIND THIS STATEMENT BY GEORGE BUSH SENIOR IN HIS MEMOIRS, " 
WORLD TRANSFORMED" NTERESTING ABOUT WHY HE DECIDED NOT TO TRY TO 
ELIMINATE SADDAM HUSSEIN WHEN U. S. FORCES COULD HAVE DONE SO AFTER 
THE GULF WAR. 
 
In his memoirs, " written five years ago, George Bush, Senior, wrote 
the following to explain why he didn't go after Saddam Hussein at the 
end of the Gulf War. "Trying to eliminate Saddam...would have 
incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was 
probably impossible We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad 
and, in effect, rule Iraq there was no viable "exit strategy" we 
could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had 
been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression 
in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus 
unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have 
destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that 
we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United 
States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly 
hostile land." 
 
[If only his son had read his father's memoirs, or some say if only 
his son could read.] 
 
Phil Zimbardo 
 
 
Cordially, 
Philip Zimbardo, Ph.D. 
Professor of Psychology 
Stanford University 
Stanford, CA 94305 
(650) 723 7498 
home fax: (415) 673-2294 
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www.zimbardo.com 
www.prisonexp.org 
www.shyness.com 
www.psychologymatters.org 
 
 
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Re: moving circles illusion

2003-10-07 Thread Jim Matiya

Hi Natalie,
For whatever reasons, i seem to know that Baingio Pinna is credited with this illusion. From Discover magazine"Vision researchers Baingio Pinna and Gavin Brelstaff theorize that illusory rotation arises from the brain's strategy of making certain neurons responsible for detecting both the orientation and the direction of movement of visual lines and curves. 
Neurons in the visual cortex of the brain are organized into subgroups, each of which responds best to lines oriented at a specific angle. Neurons that "prefer" the particular angle of an object viewed at any given moment are more active than those preferring other orientations. A subgroup of visual neurons gets most excited when a line with a preferred orientation is in motion and the direction of that motion is at a right angle to the line's orientation. 
Just as the brain determines the orientation of objects by "looking" at which groups of orientation-selective neurons are active, it also assesses the direction of motion of objects by the activity of those same nerve cells. This doubling up of orientation and motion detection works great if a line is moving at right angles to its orientation, but if the line is moving in any other direction, the brain gets confused."
jim

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From: "Nathalie Cote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: moving circles illusion 
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:11:45 -0400 
 
http://www.optillusions.com/dp/1-26.htm 
 
Hi, TIPS, 
 
I understand most of the perceptual illusions, and maybe I'm just having 
a brain lapse, but I just can't seem to come up with the explanation of 
the illusion at the link above. There are two concentric circles made of 
small diamond shapes, with light and dark shadows on one edge of the 
diamonds in the inner circle and on the opposite edge of the diamonds 
making the outer circle. When you move your head back and forth, the 
circles appear to move in opposite directions. I've looked through past 
TIPS emails but I don't see anything other than Jim Matiya mentioning a 
similar illusion to Ron Blue. I'd look it up in PsycInfo but I don't 
know what to call it. Could you please explain it or point me to an 
explanation? Thanks. 
 
Nathalie 
 
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Belmont Abbey College 
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Belmont, NC 28012 
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