Re: [tips] To Tipsters in Stockbridge,Mass

2010-11-25 Thread Serafin, John
John V. Serafin, Ph.D., 58, of Ligonier, died Sunday evening, Nov. 21, 2010,
at his home. He was born Oct. 22, 1952, in Garden City, Mich., a son of the
late John J. and Lillian Bach Serafin. John earned his Ph.D. from the
University of Michigan. He was a highly respected professor of psychology
and statistics at St. Vincent College for more than 30 years. While at St.
Vincent, he twice served as department chairperson and served twice as
president of the Faculty Senate. He was a member of Holy Trinity Catholic
Church. He is survived by his loving wife of 36 years, Carol A. (Brand)
Serafin; two daughters, Janet (Talmadge) Dowling, of Pittsburgh, and Laura
J. Serafin, of Philadelphia; a brother, Raymond (Ann) Serafin, of Ferndale,
Mich.; half brother, Bill (Sandra) Serafin, of Navarre, Fla.; a niece and a
nephew. Also surviving are his wife's family, with whom he was very close:
his mother-in-law, Merlene Brand, and brothers-in-law, Thomas (Judy), Paul
(Jeanne), James (Dawn) and David (Patricia) Brand. John's friends and family
will gather together from 2 to 4 and 6 to 8 p.m. Tuesday at the J. PAUL
McCRACKEN FUNERAL CHAPEL AND CREMATORY INC., 144 E. Main St., Ligonier. A
blessing service will be held at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the funeral chapel,
followed by the funeral Mass at 11 a.m. in Holy Trinity Catholic Church with
Archabbot Douglas Nowicki, OSB, Monsignor William G. Charnoki, PA, and the
Rev. Vernon Holtz, OSB, concelebrating. A vigil for the deceased will be
held at 7 p.m. Tuesday in the funeral chapel. Contributions may be made in
John's memory to Partners In Progress, c/o 329 N. Fairfield St., Ligonier,
PA 15658. To sign the online guest book or to send condolences to the
family, please visit www.jpaulmccrackenfuneralchapel.com
http://www.jpaulmccrackenfuneralchapel.com .
-- 
John Serafin
Psychology Department
Saint Vincent College
Latrobe, PA 15650
john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu



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 Subject: [tips] To Tipsters in Stockbridge,Mass
 
  
 
  
  
 Happy Thanksgiving! And do not forget that you can get anything you want at
 Alice's restaurant.
  
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Re: [tips] Condolences to the Family of John Serafin

2010-11-25 Thread Serafin, John
This information about John Serafin's death was submitted by me, Carol
Serafin - John's wife. I am sorry if it caused confusion, but I am not
familiar with this group but since there were so many posts to John on
various subjects, I wanted to let you know about his very sudden and
unexpected passing. At some point soon, I will remove his name from the
list, but right now I am a little overwhelmed with everything that the last
few days have brought. John was a wonderful man, husband, and father as well
as a thoughtful and dedicated teacher. His students have been expressing how
much he will be missed, so I wanted to make sure that others who knew him,
in whatever capacity, knew of his passing. I guess it was strange to get
this news from his own e-mail address, but it allowed me to do a reply all
to a random message and know that everyone who is on the list would receive
the message.
Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving.
Carol A. Serafin

 
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John Serafin
Psychology Department
Saint Vincent College
Latrobe, PA 15650
john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu



 From: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu
 Reply-To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:54:48 -0500
 To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Cc: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu
 Subject: [tips] Condolences to the Family of John Serafin
 
 Earlier today the message below was sent to Tips using John Serafin's
 email account to the Stockbridge thread.  It was an odd post to make
 given the nature of that thread but it appears that Tipster Serafin has
 in fact died as confirmed by this public obituary:
 http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/obituaries/?mode=viewobit_id=1
 99575
 
 John's last post to TiPS was made on November 19, 2010, about
 two days before his death.  I don't know who submitted the post below
 nor did I know John outside of TiPS but I thought that a more fitting
 acknowledge of his passing was necessary.
 
 -Mike Palij
 New York University
 m...@nyu.edu
 
 On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 05:18:05 -0800, Someone on behalf of John Serafin wrote:
 John V. Serafin, Ph.D., 58, of Ligonier, died Sunday evening, Nov. 21, 2010,
 at his home. He was born Oct. 22, 1952, in Garden City, Mich., a son of the
 late John J. and Lillian Bach Serafin. John earned his Ph.D. from the
 University of Michigan. He was a highly respected professor of psychology
 and statistics at St. Vincent College for more than 30 years. While at St.
 Vincent, he twice served as department chairperson and served twice as
 president of the Faculty Senate. He was a member of Holy Trinity Catholic
 Church. He is survived by his loving wife of 36 years, Carol A. (Brand)
 Serafin; two daughters, Janet (Talmadge) Dowling, of Pittsburgh, and Laura
 J. Serafin, of Philadelphia; a brother, Raymond (Ann) Serafin, of Ferndale,
 Mich.; half brother, Bill (Sandra) Serafin, of Navarre, Fla.; a niece and a
 nephew. Also surviving are his wife's family, with whom he was very close:
 his mother-in-law, Merlene Brand, and brothers-in-law, Thomas (Judy), Paul
 (Jeanne), James (Dawn) and David (Patricia) Brand. John's friends and family
 will gather together from 2 to 4 and 6 to 8 p.m. Tuesday at the J. PAUL
 McCRACKEN FUNERAL CHAPEL AND CREMATORY INC., 144 E. Main St.,
 Ligonier. A blessing service will be held at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the
 funeral chapel,
 followed by the funeral Mass at 11 a.m. in Holy Trinity Catholic Church with
 Archabbot Douglas Nowicki, OSB, Monsignor William G. Charnoki, PA, and the
 Rev. Vernon Holtz, OSB, concelebrating. A vigil for the deceased will be
 held at 7 p.m. Tuesday in the funeral chapel. Contributions may be made in
 John's memory to Partners In Progress, c/o 329 N. Fairfield St., Ligonier,
 PA 15658. To sign the online guest book or to send condolences to the
 family, please visit www.jpaulmccrackenfuneralchapel.com
  http://www.jpaulmccrackenfuneralchapel.com  .
 --
 John Serafin
 Psychology Department
 Saint Vincent College
 Latrobe, PA 15650
 
 
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Re: [tips] NYU Faculty First In Backward Looking Technology!

2010-11-18 Thread Serafin, John
Hmmm...I'm not sure why the camera needs to be surgically implanted, so
maybe there's more behind this than is indicated in the story. He's not
feeding these images into any bigger database, is he?

Also, I'm not sure about Fred Ritchin's response that Obviously you donĀ¹t
want students to be under the burden of constant surveillance. Well, ok,
maybe Bilal ought to turn the camera off when he goes to the rest room. And
not visit dorm rooms or other private areas with the camera on. But if we
think about all of the surveillance cameras out there in public places, this
just does not seem to me to be a big deal.

John
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Psychology Department
Saint Vincent College
Latrobe, PA 15650
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 From: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu
 Reply-To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:45:56 -0500
 To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Cc: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu
 Subject: [tips] NYU Faculty First In Backward Looking Technology!
 
 I can tell you from personal experience that NYU has some
 eccentric people on the faculty but this really beats them all:
 http://www.torontosun.com/news/world/2010/11/18/16202696.html
 
 For those who choose not to link-through (it is, after all, to
 the Toronto Sun newspaper website), here is a summary:
 
 A professor of photography at NYU's Tisch's School of the
 Arts (where all the creative-artistic-corporate folks are) is
 having a camera installed into the back of his head which
 will wireless tranmit images.
 
 There is some discussion about how students will feel when the
 professor is writing on the whiteboard.
 
 I kid you not.
 
 -Mike Palij
 New York University (yeah, *that* NYU)
 m...@nyu.edu


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Re: [tips] Who's on first?

2010-10-26 Thread Serafin, John
Michael,

Your memory about the monkeys  potatoes is pretty good. I don't remember
the original authors, but the monkeys under study were a colony of Japanese
macaqques on one of the Japanese islands. To support the colony, the humans
would dump food (e.g., potatoes) on the beach. The researchers observed that
the animals learned to wash the sand off before eating. One of the
interesting reports by the researchers was that this behavior began among
the younger, adolescent animals, but then spread to the older adults.
Whether this is evidence of higher cognitive function, I'll leave to others
to debate. It could potentially be explained via conditioning.

As for chimps eating ants, what do you suppose they're doing when they groom
each other? They're picking bugs off. No sense letting that protein go to
waste, so why not eat them?

-- 
John Serafin
Psychology Department
Saint Vincent College
Latrobe, PA 15650
john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu



 From: michael sylvester msylves...@copper.net
 Reply-To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:18:37 -0400
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Conversation: [tips] Who's  on first?
 Subject: Fw: [tips] Who's  on first?
 
 Not referring to an Abbot and Costello flick, but I saw a program on Jane
 Goodall where she saw chimps use sticks to fetch ants from an ant hill.She was
 fascinated by their tool utilization and alerted the scientific community who
 initially remained skeptical. However ,when I was at Wichita  State in the
 early 1970s,I knew a prof at WSU
 by he name of Neil Pronko who published a text of articles in a work titled
 PANORAMA
 OF PSYCHOLOGY where he had a piece on monkeys on a Pacific island
 that washed potatoes before eating them.
 For monkeys to wash potatoes before eating them certainly implies higher
 cognitive function. I  do not remember the time line for the both of those
 animal observations.
 Anyway why were Goodall's chimps  eating ants? Ain't those Bozo types
 vegetarian?
  


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Re: [tips] Who's on first?

2010-10-26 Thread Serafin, John
Mike P:

You are apparently picking a nit with something I said in a previous post
(reference the following quote). No doubt, grooming behavior in these
animals has an important social characteristic. But I'm pretty sure that
they are picking out parasites and other debris in the process, and in the
process eat them.

Apply your own criteria for evaluating the voice over on the National
Geographic show. It's not JUST physical contact that is involved. There are
other functions fulfilled by the behavior.

John
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Psychology Department
Saint Vincent College
Latrobe, PA 15650
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 From: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu
 Reply-To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:55:15 -0400
 To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Cc: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu
 Subject: re: [tips] Who's on first?
 
 By the way, according to the voice over on the
 NatGeo program, when chimps groom each other, it is not pick
 out bugs or nits or whatever -- they do it just for the physical
 contact.


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Re: [tips] Grandfathered in?

2010-10-15 Thread Serafin, John
Michael,

We've had 2 situation of this type relating to tenure. One was just as you
describe--masters required at time of hiring, later the requirement went up
to PhD. They were grandfathered in, but all of them have since retired, so
it's not a current issue.

The other situation, you might find more interesting given your background.
Until the mid-80s here, the Benedictine monks who taught in the college were
never tenured. After that time the monks went through the same tenure
process as lay faculty. In 1984, I believe it was, all monks who had a
certain number of years work in the college were grandfathered in (i.e.,
granted tenure). Several of them are still around, including one of my
favorite colleagues in the psych dept.

John
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Psychology Department
Saint Vincent College
Latrobe, PA 15650
john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu



 From: michael sylvester msylves...@copper.net
 Reply-To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:12:34 -0400
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Conversation: [tips] Grandfathered in?
 Subject: [tips] Grandfathered in?
 
 The grandfather clause is practiced in many businesses,real estate, and other
 professional areas.
 Simply,if one is grandfathered in,one still falls under the old rules that
 were in existence at the time one  originally contracted.I know of some cases
 where the grandfather  clause in the past has been upheld.For example,if a
 terminal masters was all that was required for tenure track at the time of
 appointment then, a change in  the requirements  in the future years, may not
 apply to the previous faculty who can claim to be grandfathered in. It is my
 understanding that tenure has little to do with one's credentials although
 credentials could affect one's salary.Just curious if some tipsters have known
 faculty without a PhD who have been grandfathered in and have higher ranks and
 status.
 What ya think about the grandfather clause in academia? Btw,is there a
 grandmother clause?
 Anyone on Tips who was grandfathered or grandmothered in? Any librarian,MFA or
 ED.D making higher salary than you?
 Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
 Daytona Beach,Florida


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Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?

2010-09-14 Thread Serafin, John
Hey, wait a minute here. Why is that Italian, Galileo, getting credit (or
blame, depending on your perspective) for all of this business about a
heliocentric universe? I thought that my Polish ancestor, Copernicus, was
the one responsible for all of this rabble-rousing.

If they're going to go off on a witch hunt or defamatory exploration, they
should at least get the right victim.

Geez!

John
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Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?

2010-09-14 Thread Serafin, John
Ha! One of the things I have to love about TIPS is that even when I post
something completely tongue-in-cheek, I can count on interesting and
informative replies. Thanks, John K! I'll just add that Brahe  Kepler did
their thing after Copernicus, so I'll still attribute the idea to
Copernicus.

Personal aside...ignore if not interested. My grandparents all emigrated
from Poland to the US. They all ended up in an area just west of Detroit. My
dad's parents lived on a street that happened to go by the name of Kopernik.
As a kid, I had no idea the significance of that name, but I eventually
figured it out.

John
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Psychology Department
Saint Vincent College
Latrobe, PA 15650
john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu



 From: John Kulig ku...@mail.plymouth.edu
 Reply-To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:44:16 -0400
 To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Subject: Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?
 
 
 
 Yeah, I agree! (sort of, but ...) My understanding (haven't read the original)
 is that Copernicus (Latinized from the Polish name Kopernik) was theoretically
 embedded in the medieval way of thinking which was to try to fit the available
 data into pre-existing medieval-style thinking. I believe he showed that
 either a geo or helio-centered universe could be made consistent with existing
 data. Galileo deserves a tremendous amount of credit for pushing science
 forward, but look to Kepler's three laws of planetary motion (1609/1619) for a
 real data-driven science (Tycho Brahe's data though), moving from the perfect
 circles of medieval thinking to elliptical orbits. But in empirically derived
 laws, he saw a different sort of perfection, mathematically, such as the
 relationship between distance from the sun and time to orbit (3rd law I
 believe) ... 
 
 ==
 John W. Kulig
 Professor of Psychology
 Plymouth State University
 Plymouth NH 03264
 
 GALILEO GALILEI:
 I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us with
 sense, reasons, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Serafin john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:24:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?
 
 Hey, wait a minute here. Why is that Italian, Galileo, getting credit (or
 blame, depending on your perspective) for all of this business about a
 heliocentric universe? I thought that my Polish ancestor, Copernicus, was
 the one responsible for all of this rabble-rousing.
 
 If they're going to go off on a witch hunt or defamatory exploration, they
 should at least get the right victim.
 
 Geez!
 
 John
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 Psychology Department
 Saint Vincent College
 Latrobe, PA 15650
 john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu
 
 
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[tips] magic/perception issue

2010-08-29 Thread Serafin, John
Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here. First of all, I admit to being a
huge fan of magicians (illusionists, if you prefer that term). I am not a
huge fan of the show, America's Got Talent. But

That show has a couple of pretty good magicians this year. Relationship to
psychology? This relates to perception.

Watch this trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIXqO_jcVXAp=D8D9DC4B4A148D20playnext=1ind
ex=10

Psychologists are generally pretty good at figuring out what's going on.
I've got some thoughts about this one, but I'm curious whether others have
ideas as well.

Now, we're not on stage to watch this...but what do you think?

And then there's this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiUDdRA-v2o

Theoretically, all of this is being done on live TV.

I think we need Randi to explain all of this.

John
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Re: [tips] magic/perception issue

2010-08-29 Thread Serafin, John
Thank you to both Don and Gary for the comments on these clips. Yeah, I had
assumed that the tiger act involved prisms or some such to mask his original
appearance. I will say, however, that I'm still a bit puzzled by the other
one! Where the devil did that second gal come from?

In any case...good stuff. Don, if you're serious, I'd love to have you send
me whatever you can about the easy ones.

John
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Re: [tips] belated response to critique of Susan Clancy book

2010-04-29 Thread Serafin, John
Thank you, Scott. That's another great example. I love using data like these
in stats. We get to talk a little bit about the underlying psychological
issues, but also can discuss the statistical issues.

So...as in a previous discussion...what's best to summarize these data?
Mean, median, or mode? Or to put in another way, is there any good way to
summarize these data from a central tendency point of view? (A graph would
be my personal preference.)

John
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 From: Lilienfeld, Scott O slil...@emory.edu
 Reply-To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:21:13 -0400
 To: TIPS posts tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Subject: RE: [tips] belated response to critique of Susan Clancy book
 
 For those TIPSters, like John Serafin, desiring more data (I assume he means
 bigger sample sizes), here's another one from Amazon.com for the very book to
 which Joan Warmbold is referring (I assume), Paul Offit's (excellent, in my
 view), Autism's False Prophets (funny - I initially typed Profits, which I
 quickly realized may be a Freudian parapraxis):
 
 104 Reviews
 5 star:(70)
 4 star:(6)
 3 star:(0)
 2 star:(2)
 1 star:(26)
 
And following up further on Joan's comments, here is the Amazon.com
 distribution for Loftus and Ketcham's Myth of Repressed Memory:
 
 18 Reviews
 5 star:(8)
 4 star:(5)
 3 star:(0)
 2 star:(0)
 1 star:(5)
 
   Of course, I haven't presented any data from the control condition
 (noncontroversial books), so take these data for what they're worth.  Still,
 in the Reichenbach context of discovery, they're certainly good reason to
 further explore this hypothesis, I'd think.
 
 ...Scott
 
 
 Scott O. Lilienfeld, Ph.D.
 Professor
 Editor, Scientific Review of Mental Health Practice
 Department of Psychology, Room 473 Psychology and Interdisciplinary Sciences
 (PAIS)
 Emory University
 36 Eagle Row
 Atlanta, Georgia 30322
 slil...@emory.edu
 (404) 727-1125
 
 Psychology Today Blog:
 http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-skeptical-psychologist
 
 50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology:
 http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-140513111X.html
 
 Scientific American Mind: Facts and Fictions in Mental Health Column:
 http://www.scientificamerican.com/sciammind/
 
 The Master in the Art of Living makes little distinction between his work and
 his play,
 his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his
 recreation,
 his love and his intellectual passions.  He hardly knows which is which.
 He simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does,
 leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing.
 To him - he is always doing both.
 
 - Zen Buddhist text
   (slightly modified)
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joan Warmbold [mailto:jwarm...@oakton.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 Subject: Re: [tips] belated response to critique of Susan Clancy book
 
 Polarization is almost inevitable when a person/author takes a
 controversial stand.  I recall when the author of a book that  provided
 overwhelming evidence /against/ the cause-effect relationship between
 vaccines and autism, he decided to cancel his book tour due to death
 threats.  Another analogy is with Elizabeth Loftus's controversial
 findings on false memories.  As terrific as her contributions have been
 to our understanding of prone to error we can be when retrieving
 memories, she also polarized the public as well as the psychological
 community.  Taking such stands as these three have takes great courage
 of conviction.
 
 Joan
 jwarm...@oakton.edu
 
 sbl...@ubishops.ca wrote:
 BTW, 38 customer reviews were
 posted to Amazon. 39% of them gave her book 5 stars
 (outstanding); 42%, 1 star (stinks). Reveals a bit of polarization,
 no?
 
 
 
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Re: [tips] Are parachutes effective?

2010-03-16 Thread Serafin, John
I imagine that, in contrast to some of the other research recently discussed
here, the placebo effect might not be getting stronger in this field of
research?

John
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 tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:46:34 -0400
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 Conversation: [tips] Are parachutes effective?
 Subject: [tips] Are parachutes effective?
 
 Smith and Pell report the results of a review and meta-analysis
 of randomized controlled trials of parachute use.
 
 From the Discussion:
 
 It is a truth universally acknowledged that a medical
 intervention justified by observational data must be in want of
 verification through a randomized controlled trial.
 
 See:
 
 http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/327/7429/1459#responses
 
 Smith, C.,  Pell, J. (2003). Hazardous journey: Parachute use
 to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational
 challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials.
 BMJ  2003;327:1459-1461.
 


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Re: [tips] Great Question about REM

2010-02-23 Thread Serafin, John
Good set of responses to the original question about REM  motor inhibition  
eye movements. Just want to correct one response. Eye movements are not 
controlled by autonomic systems. The poster may have been thinking about 
functions like pupil dilation/contraction, which are, in fact, controlled by 
parasympathetic system. But movements of the eye are under separate control.

Also, I'll just add that describing the effect as motor paralysis is probably 
an overstatement. Brainstem areas, during REM, inhibit motor neurons in the 
spinal cord. That does not necessarily imply total paralysis.

And while I'm at it, I'll add my own question to this topic, which I've never 
come up with a good answer to. Some species sleep standing up. Why don't they 
flop over and fall down when they enter REM?

John

Besides eye movements  are functionally under the ANS

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Re: [tips] Prep for Psych stats?

2010-01-29 Thread Serafin, John
For us, students who are required to take the remedial math course must pass
that remedial course before taking psych stats. The others, we assume they
have the basic math skills necessary. However, during advising, most are
encouraged to take a college-level math course before stats. Not because
they need higher math skills, but to refresh skills that may have gone
stagnant. This approach has worked pretty well for us.

John
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 Conversation: [tips] Prep for Psych stats?
 Subject: [tips] Prep for Psych stats?
 
 We had a discussion at a dept. meeting regarding our requirement of a Math
 class (involves intermediate algebra) for our Psych Statistics class.  This
 Math class is college level and not remedial, and some of our stats
 instructors feel the math class is at a level above what should be required
 for our stats class.  All of our students have basic math skills and we
 initially thought this math class should be required to insure basic
 arithmetical operations.  The class now appears to be at a higher level than
 some think is necessary.  I was wondering if other TIPS folks have a Math
 pre-req for the Psych Stats class and whether it you feel it functions well as
 a pre-req.  My own view is that students should have basic math skills but do
 not need a higher level college math class before our Stats class.  We have an
 advanced Stat class where students can sharpen their stats thinking and, of
 course, those going on to grad work in psych (approx 19%) will have further
 opportunities to develop understanding of more advanced statistical
 techniques.  Thanks for any input/thoughts.
 
 
 
 
 
 Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D.
 Professor, Department of Psychology
 Saginaw Valley State University
 University Center, MI 48710
 989-964-4491
 peter...@svsu.edu
 
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