Re: [Tn5250j-general] [ tn5250j-Bugs-1161363 ] Slovenian (SVN) support for TN5250j

2005-06-07 Thread Marko Daris
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 17:54 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
 Marko
 
 No problem.  I am leaving soon and we can pick it back up tomorrow.
Busy day today - need to wait for system to become available. 

 
 Now that is going to be interesting to see what the characters are for both 
 ways
 of doing the mapping.
 
 Tomorrow then.
 
 Regards
 
 Kenneth
 
 Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 17:24 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
   Marko
   
   You will need to unzip the file and use the jt400.jar file from the zip
  archive.
   
   java -classpath .:..:path_to_jt400.jar tn5250j.jar
   
   That should do it.
   
   If you received the new .jar file I sent you we may not have to do that
  right
   now.  If it works that is :-)
  With the new version I get both the cp852 AND the Java Toolbox checkbox
  (without using CLASSPATH and jtopen)... I tested both: see attachments.
  All the characters are trash (I can't login either) because in the
  meantime we changed the logon language from Slovenian to English... 
  
  So I need to change the default language back to Slovenian. I'll have to
  ask our IBM guy to help me with that. Please be patient (or if you know
  how to change it...).
  
  Marko
  
   
   Use the new .jar and see if the option shows up.  That might not be there
  in the
   version from the site.  Can not remember as it has been to long.
   
   Kenneth
   
   Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 16:51 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
 Marko
 
 Are you also using the jt400 toolbox?  If you are we can test the 
 cp852
  by
using
 that option.
Will need help with this: I just downloaded jtopen_4_7-1.zip from IBM. 
How do I install this? Where must this be installed on Linux or on
AS400? I followed the instructions but had no luck (using CLASSPATH)...


 
 On the properties page you can select the AS/400 Toolbox checkbox and
  it
will
Properties where? The ones from the main tn5250j menu?

 load the code pages from the jt400 packages instead.  At least that
  will
help us
 do a test.
 
 Forgot all about that.
 
 Regards
 
 Kenneth
 
 
 Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 16:29 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
   Marko
   
   Crap. 
   
Recoding is too complex for a mere table
   
   That is a message that is obtained with the newer versions of
  recode. 
I
  had to
   downgrade to 3.5 to generate the tables.  I am assuming you have
  3.6
or
  higher.
Wow now what to do.
  Will try to downgrade recode to 3.5.
  I checked some old machines that SHOULD have old versions - but
  Murphy's
  law is in action...
  
   
   No you can not select those others because I do not have them in
  the
  emulator
   yet.  If you could have sent me a text file from recode then we
  could
have
  put
   it in.
   
   The version you will be testing with will be the one I send you. 
  Will
have
  to
   change the code to implement it, recompile and then send you a new
binary
  to
   test with.
   
   Huu  what to do now?
  Just wait that I get an old version of recode and build it...
  
   
   Anybody else have any success with this?
   
   Regards
   
   Kenneth
   
   Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:25 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
 Hummm will have to think about this one.  Am pretty sure if I
  put
the
  1250
in
 there it will not work or will have to do a recode of 852.  No
linux
machine
 right now either.
 
 Marko can you do a recode and place the mappings in a text 
 file
  for
me.
  
For
 example:
 
 recode -v -h  cp852  ebcdic852.txt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h  cp852
Request: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
Shrunk to: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..CHAR
Recoding is too complex for a mere table

 
 you can get a list of these by doing a 'recode -l'.
 
I guess we need: 
IBM852/CR-LF 852/CR-LF CP852/CR-LF pcl2 pclatin2
ISO-8859-2 912/CR-LF CP912/CR-LF csISOLatin2 IBM912/CR-LF
  ISO8859-2
iso-
ir-101 ISO_8859-2 ISO_8859-2:1987 l2 latin2


[EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h IBM852
Request: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
Shrunk to: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..CHAR
Recoding is too complex for a mere table

[EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h ISO-8859-2
Request: ISO-8859-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
Shrunk to: ISO-8859-2..CHAR
Recoding is too complex for a mere 

Re: [Tn5250j-general] [ tn5250j-Bugs-1161363 ] Slovenian (SVN) support for TN5250j

2005-06-06 Thread Kenneth Pouncey
Welcome to the project Marko

Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Kenneth,
 
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 regarding Slovenian support for tn5250j:
 please let me know how to proceed. 
 
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RE: [Tn5250j-general] [ tn5250j-Bugs-1161363 ] Slovenian (SVN) support for TN5250j

2005-06-06 Thread Patrick Bielen
Hi Marko,
 
 Welcome to the project Marko

Wecome to the tn5250j-community.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best Regards,
 
Patrick Bielen
 
System-Administrator Stafa Holland BV
Microsoft Certified Professional
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Re: [Tn5250j-general] [ tn5250j-Bugs-1161363 ] Slovenian (SVN) support for TN5250j

2005-06-06 Thread Marko Daris
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:37 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
 Also as for the font names, the one that is defined in the fonts list will be
 the one selected on linux.  So if that is the only lucidabrigh-xxx font
 defined in the system fonts then that one will be loaded.
The fonts on Linux are separated by encoding. For example: 
-bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
-bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
-bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-4
-bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-5
-bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-7
-bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-9

So only the font name is not enough.. I mean I don't know how you get
the list of fonts in Setting-Fonts. If you specify somewhere (some API)
that is it iso8859-2 than those fonts should be ok.

 
 I know a long while back there was a problem with the JDK and loading the
 correct font but that should have been fixed a long time ago for 1.3 
 versions.  
I'm using: 
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin/java -jar /usr/local/tn5250j/tn5250j.jar

[EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin/java -version
java version 1.4.2_05
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_05-b04)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_05-b04, mixed mode)

 
 Make sure you are using the international versions of the JRE or JDK as well 
 or
 you will not get the correct font displayed either.  That has been on the 
 list a
 number of times and I always forget about it when someone reports a display
 problem for code pages.
Can you tell from -version above if this is the international one?

Marko


 
 Regards
 
 Kenneth
 
 Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 13:49 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
   Marko
   
   Could you tell me what codepage to use.  The character set as well for
  windows
   would be good as well.
  
  Here's a link from M$: 
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/nlsweb/default.asp?submitted=424
  
  The codepage (ANSI) is 1250 (Win). OEM is 852 / LCID 424 (DOS). I don't
  know which value you need - I guess the ANSI is the correct one for
  Windows.
  
  Font (Linux):
  http://nl.ijs.si/gnusl/cee/iso8859-2.html
  
  Should be iso8859-2. Note: is the Right-Click menu Settings / Fonts
  there is no way to select iso8859-2 - only the font name can be
  selected. 
  
  xlsfonts | grep iso9959-2
  
  -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
  -bh-lucidabright-demibold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
  -bh-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
  -bh-lucidabright-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
  ...
  
  Here's another link (look for: Slovenian) that summarizes the different
  codepages per OS: 
  http://www.slovo.info/eurocp.htm
  
  Marko
  
  
   
   Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
Kenneth,

registered with tn5250j-general like you requested... 

regarding Slovenian support for tn5250j:
please let me know how to proceed. 

Marko



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Re: [Tn5250j-general] [ tn5250j-Bugs-1161363 ] Slovenian (SVN) support for TN5250j

2005-06-06 Thread Kenneth Pouncey

Marko

Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:37 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
  Also as for the font names, the one that is defined in the fonts list will
 be
  the one selected on linux.  So if that is the only lucidabrigh-xxx
 font
  defined in the system fonts then that one will be loaded.
 The fonts on Linux are separated by encoding. For example: 
 -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
 -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
 -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-4
 -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-5
 -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-7
 -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-9

Can not remember how that is handled.  I think I remember reading that the
correct is loaded depending on the system and there is a way to select the
default to be loaded.  Anyway it is not realy important right now as we need to
get the code page loaded and then we can take a look at this.

 
 So only the font name is not enough.. I mean I don't know how you get
 the list of fonts in Setting-Fonts. If you specify somewhere (some API)
 that is it iso8859-2 than those fonts should be ok.
 
  
  I know a long while back there was a problem with the JDK and loading the
  correct font but that should have been fixed a long time ago for 1.3
 versions.  
 I'm using: 
 /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin/java -jar /usr/local/tn5250j/tn5250j.jar
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin/java -version
 java version 1.4.2_05
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_05-b04)
 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_05-b04, mixed mode)
 

Sorry I was just making a comment and you should not have a problem with the
newer versions.

  
  Make sure you are using the international versions of the JRE or JDK as
 well or
  you will not get the correct font displayed either.  That has been on the
 list a
  number of times and I always forget about it when someone reports a
 display
  problem for code pages.
 Can you tell from -version above if this is the international one?

I do not think so.  It would have been selected when you downloaded the jdk. 
Still not a problem right now as we need the recode of 852 done and put in
before we go any further.

Kenneth

 
 Marko
 
 
  
  Regards
  
  Kenneth
  
  Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 13:49 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
Marko

Could you tell me what codepage to use.  The character set as well for
   windows
would be good as well.
   
   Here's a link from M$: 
   
   http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/nlsweb/default.asp?submitted=424
   
   The codepage (ANSI) is 1250 (Win). OEM is 852 / LCID 424 (DOS). I don't
   know which value you need - I guess the ANSI is the correct one for
   Windows.
   
   Font (Linux):
   http://nl.ijs.si/gnusl/cee/iso8859-2.html
   
   Should be iso8859-2. Note: is the Right-Click menu Settings / Fonts
   there is no way to select iso8859-2 - only the font name can be
   selected. 
   
   xlsfonts | grep iso9959-2
   
   -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
   -bh-lucidabright-demibold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
   -bh-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
   -bh-lucidabright-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
   ...
   
   Here's another link (look for: Slovenian) that summarizes the different
   codepages per OS: 
   http://www.slovo.info/eurocp.htm
   
   Marko
   
   

Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Kenneth,
 
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 regarding Slovenian support for tn5250j:
 please let me know how to proceed. 
 
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Re: [Tn5250j-general] [ tn5250j-Bugs-1161363 ] Slovenian (SVN) support for TN5250j

2005-06-06 Thread Kenneth Pouncey

Cooolll  Marko will wait.

Thanks


Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 16:29 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
  Marko
  
  Crap. 
  
   Recoding is too complex for a mere table
  
  That is a message that is obtained with the newer versions of recode.  I
 had to
  downgrade to 3.5 to generate the tables.  I am assuming you have 3.6 or
 higher.
   Wow now what to do.
 Will try to downgrade recode to 3.5.
 I checked some old machines that SHOULD have old versions - but Murphy's
 law is in action...
 
  
  No you can not select those others because I do not have them in the
 emulator
  yet.  If you could have sent me a text file from recode then we could have
 put
  it in.
  
  The version you will be testing with will be the one I send you.  Will have
 to
  change the code to implement it, recompile and then send you a new binary
 to
  test with.
  
  Huu  what to do now?
 Just wait that I get an old version of recode and build it...
 
  
  Anybody else have any success with this?
  
  Regards
  
  Kenneth
  
  Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:25 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
Hummm will have to think about this one.  Am pretty sure if I put the
 1250
   in
there it will not work or will have to do a recode of 852.  No linux
   machine
right now either.

Marko can you do a recode and place the mappings in a text file for me.
 
   For
example:

recode -v -h  cp852  ebcdic852.txt
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h  cp852
   Request: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
   Shrunk to: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..CHAR
   Recoding is too complex for a mere table
   

you can get a list of these by doing a 'recode -l'.

   I guess we need: 
   IBM852/CR-LF 852/CR-LF CP852/CR-LF pcl2 pclatin2
   ISO-8859-2 912/CR-LF CP912/CR-LF csISOLatin2 IBM912/CR-LF ISO8859-2 iso-
   ir-101 ISO_8859-2 ISO_8859-2:1987 l2 latin2
   
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h IBM852
   Request: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
   Shrunk to: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..CHAR
   Recoding is too complex for a mere table
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h ISO-8859-2
   Request: ISO-8859-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
   Shrunk to: ISO-8859-2..CHAR
   Recoding is too complex for a mere table
   
   What is this Recoding is too complex.. msg? Am I missing something?
   
   FYI: in the version of tn5250j I have in the Change Session - Code Page
   I can't select 852 nor 1250 (they are not listed)...
   
   Please advise which version of JRE and TN5250j should be used for
   testing - so we can eliminte problems caused by using wrong
   versions/builds. 
   
From the list select what you think are the ones you need and put them
 in
separate .txt files and send them to me.

Let's see if this will work.

Regards

Kenneth

Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 13:49 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
  Marko
  
  Could you tell me what codepage to use.  The character set as well
 for
 windows
  would be good as well.
 
 Here's a link from M$: 
 
 http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/nlsweb/default.asp?submitted=424
 
 The codepage (ANSI) is 1250 (Win). OEM is 852 / LCID 424 (DOS). I
 don't
 know which value you need - I guess the ANSI is the correct one for
 Windows.
 
 Font (Linux):
 http://nl.ijs.si/gnusl/cee/iso8859-2.html
 
 Should be iso8859-2. Note: is the Right-Click menu Settings / Fonts
 there is no way to select iso8859-2 - only the font name can be
 selected. 
 
 xlsfonts | grep iso9959-2
 
 -bh-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
 -bh-lucidabright-demibold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
 -bh-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
 -bh-lucidabright-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2
 ...
 
 Here's another link (look for: Slovenian) that summarizes the
 different
 codepages per OS: 
 http://www.slovo.info/eurocp.htm
 
 Marko
 
 
  
  Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   Kenneth,
   
   registered with tn5250j-general like you requested... 
   
   regarding Slovenian support for tn5250j:
   please let me know how to proceed. 
   
   Marko
   
   
   
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Re: [Tn5250j-general] [ tn5250j-Bugs-1161363 ] Slovenian (SVN) support for TN5250j

2005-06-06 Thread Kenneth Pouncey

Marko

You will need to unzip the file and use the jt400.jar file from the zip archive.

java -classpath .:..:path_to_jt400.jar tn5250j.jar

That should do it.

If you received the new .jar file I sent you we may not have to do that right
now.  If it works that is :-)

Use the new .jar and see if the option shows up.  That might not be there in the
version from the site.  Can not remember as it has been to long.

Kenneth

Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 16:51 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
  Marko
  
  Are you also using the jt400 toolbox?  If you are we can test the cp852 by
 using
  that option.
 Will need help with this: I just downloaded jtopen_4_7-1.zip from IBM. 
 How do I install this? Where must this be installed on Linux or on
 AS400? I followed the instructions but had no luck (using CLASSPATH)...
 
 
  
  On the properties page you can select the AS/400 Toolbox checkbox and it
 will
 Properties where? The ones from the main tn5250j menu?
 
  load the code pages from the jt400 packages instead.  At least that will
 help us
  do a test.
  
  Forgot all about that.
  
  Regards
  
  Kenneth
  
  
  Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 16:29 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
Marko

Crap. 

 Recoding is too complex for a mere table

That is a message that is obtained with the newer versions of recode. 
 I
   had to
downgrade to 3.5 to generate the tables.  I am assuming you have 3.6
 or
   higher.
 Wow now what to do.
   Will try to downgrade recode to 3.5.
   I checked some old machines that SHOULD have old versions - but Murphy's
   law is in action...
   

No you can not select those others because I do not have them in the
   emulator
yet.  If you could have sent me a text file from recode then we could
 have
   put
it in.

The version you will be testing with will be the one I send you.  Will
 have
   to
change the code to implement it, recompile and then send you a new
 binary
   to
test with.

Huu  what to do now?
   Just wait that I get an old version of recode and build it...
   

Anybody else have any success with this?

Regards

Kenneth

Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:25 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
  Hummm will have to think about this one.  Am pretty sure if I put
 the
   1250
 in
  there it will not work or will have to do a recode of 852.  No
 linux
 machine
  right now either.
  
  Marko can you do a recode and place the mappings in a text file for
 me.
   
 For
  example:
  
  recode -v -h  cp852  ebcdic852.txt
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h  cp852
 Request: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
 Shrunk to: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..CHAR
 Recoding is too complex for a mere table
 
  
  you can get a list of these by doing a 'recode -l'.
  
 I guess we need: 
 IBM852/CR-LF 852/CR-LF CP852/CR-LF pcl2 pclatin2
 ISO-8859-2 912/CR-LF CP912/CR-LF csISOLatin2 IBM912/CR-LF ISO8859-2
 iso-
 ir-101 ISO_8859-2 ISO_8859-2:1987 l2 latin2
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h IBM852
 Request: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
 Shrunk to: IBM852..ISO-10646-UCS-2..CHAR
 Recoding is too complex for a mere table
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] markod]$ recode -v -h ISO-8859-2
 Request: ISO-8859-2..:libiconv:..CHAR
 Shrunk to: ISO-8859-2..CHAR
 Recoding is too complex for a mere table
 
 What is this Recoding is too complex.. msg? Am I missing
 something?
 
 FYI: in the version of tn5250j I have in the Change Session - Code
 Page
 I can't select 852 nor 1250 (they are not listed)...
 
 Please advise which version of JRE and TN5250j should be used for
 testing - so we can eliminte problems caused by using wrong
 versions/builds. 
 
  From the list select what you think are the ones you need and put
 them
   in
  separate .txt files and send them to me.
  
  Let's see if this will work.
  
  Regards
  
  Kenneth
  
  Quoting Marko Daris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 13:49 +0200, Kenneth Pouncey wrote:
Marko

Could you tell me what codepage to use.  The character set as
 well
   for
   windows
would be good as well.
   
   Here's a link from M$: 
   
  
 http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/nlsweb/default.asp?submitted=424
   
   The codepage (ANSI) is 1250 (Win). OEM is 852 / LCID 424 (DOS).
 I
   don't
   know which value you need - I guess the ANSI is the correct one
 for
   Windows.
   
   Font (Linux):
   http://nl.ijs.si/gnusl/cee/iso8859-2.html
   
   Should be iso8859-2. Note: is the Right-Click menu Settings /
 Fonts
   there is no way to