port number at runtime

2004-07-20 Thread saugata ghosh
It will be very usefull if the port number on which
the SSL and Http non-ssl ports are running, is
available runtime. (Ex:- 8080 and 8443).
Is it possible?

The int getPort() method of the CoyoteConnector
class returns the port number but its not accessible
at runtime. If there is a sendRedirect() method in
some jsp, where one wants to redirect from http to say
https, then the port number must be known in advance.
So there is a need for such an API.

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Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie

2004-07-20 Thread Bill Barker

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Subject: Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie


 On Jul 19, 2004, at 8:43 AM, Henri Gomez wrote:
  And since I couldn't delay the release to long, we need a quick reply,
  so thanks to take a look at it.

 We've setup a current CVS checkout of mod_jk at
 http://sp27en1.nerdc.ufl.edu/login.do which is load balancing to our
 webmail cluster. If you constantly reload the page you'll see it's
 setting a new JSESSIONID cookie on every request.


Yup.  Sending the cookie almost always fails to stick.  Sending the
jsessionid via URL-rewriting always sticks.  So it does look like there is a
bug with the lb cookie parsing.  I can't see by looking at the code what it
is however :(.  I can probably find a machine that I can hook up with the
HEAD code and lb to see what is going wrong, but I can't promise when.  If
you feel like putting more work into this, adding 'fprintf(stderr,...)'
statements should go to the Apache error_log.

 For comparison https://webmail.ufl.edu/login.do is using mod_jk 1.2.5
 load balancing to the same webmail cluster.


Yup.  This one will always stick with the cookie.

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RE: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Mladen Turk
 

Costin Manolache wrote
 
 I can understand the jk2 object oriented C is considered 
 too complex. 

True.

 But I certainly can't agree on a design that is not modular 
 and doesn't support this basic requirement. We already have 
 mod_jserv and mod_webapp
   - and a long history of rewrite from scratch to make it simpler 
 turning into far more complex code.
 

But we don't wish to write something modular and unlimitedly extendable.
Just the load-balancing-ajp13+ over tcp/ip connector, for Apache2.
Having that in mind, we have APR, and 'almost' a finite set of requirements,
without the need to 'think modular' or 'think cross-webserver'.
Lot of the code would be reusable, but it would mean that making a mod_jni
connector would mean to make a completely different project without some
common directory holding shareable code.
  
Also making any additional 'features' to the connector (like 'discovery'
etc.) would have to be made as such, and enabled during compile time, so
that the basic functionality remains as is. This means that we don't compile
everything and then use the config to either enable or disable features, but
rather make something like 'mpm concept' selectable at compile time. 

 Seriously - if you take away the JMX and support for other 
 servers - why not just use mod_jserv ?

No one prevents you of making mod_jmx that will allow entire Apache2 to be
maintainable trough JMX console, not only our module :). 
Regarding other servers you meant IIS (other are less then couple of
percent) probably (apache13 users can use jk). I would like to make the
'real' IIS6 filter that will go in the NT kernel's http.sys, have dynamic
thread pool and MMC snap-in, but that is something completely different. Few
things like config tree, ajp protocol and transport can be reused cause now
we have the APR that generalizes the OS layer. 
If you wish to write a good Apache2 module or IIS filter, they have to be
different projects. Also being usable from admins point of view requires
that the apache module is configurable trough httpd.conf, and IIS trough
GUI. None of them uses JMX to configure the webserver thought.

I have on my dash-board for a long time a project that will make a TC as a
main web server, having Apache as a 'slave' for additional PHP and Perl
support, but that also is something completely different and questionably
usable.

 After all mod_jk and 
 jk2 got complex because of additional requirements and 
 features that we wanted to implement - if we drop them then 
 we can just go back and use mod_jserv.
 

Think that the main problem is that we don't understand the JK2 code any
more, and that the modularity combined with crosswebserver became an
obstacle rather then a feature.


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Re: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Costin Manolache wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
You must keep in mind that tomcat5 is no longer server.xml centric !
It can use separate config files in different directories, if it is 
embedded it can use the embedor's config, etc.

And httpd.conf is static - you can't modify it. We support using 
httpd.conf for performance-versus-flexibility or for native auth - if 
you want to use the apache mapper and auth instead of jk mapper and 
tomcat auth.

Well httpd.conf is static but nothing prevent from doing :
Location /examples
AjpWorker myworker
/Location
= All /examples goes to myworker, which could be a simple tomcat
or a cluster. but the idea behind is to make updates to this 'myworker'
from the behind, JMX or AJP13++/AJP14 link.

And what if /examples context is removed ?
Well = 404
Since myworker didn't have examples webapp, the resource is missing
and unless you're in a cluster configuration, you should return a 404 error.
Or a new context is dynamically added ?
If a new context is added, you couldn't know it at httpd.conf edit time.
Many cases here :
- You didn't map it.
- You map it to the worker but in such case you have to triple URI 
mapping, one in Apache 2, another in mod_ajp, and of course a third in 
tomcat, and using 3 mapping was something you asked us to avoid yesterday ;)

What about /examples/protected/ which may need to be authenticated - if 
we really want to support play nice with other apache modules, then we 
need to support authentication using apache modules. Then what if the 
webapp is reloaded with a different protected uri ?
/examples/protected/ should use the Apache auth as any other 'native' 
Apache URL isn't it ? In such case we should exclude it from direct
mod_ajp processing, it should case later in the hooks process.

That's the main problem with jk/jk2 today, since we can be part of the 
various modules chain with JkMount for example :(

So IMO any jk config MUST be JMX-like.

May be.

Of course we should have somewhere in the new module the 
configuration tree in whatever native format we could imagine, 
apr_map maybe or apr_xml_tree if existing.


File format is not important - dynamic changes and updates are the 
important issue.




- the configuration should be in Apache's config file, rather 
than some complex properties file


+1


See above.
Apache config file is clearly better than any arbitrary static 
jk-specific config file. And it does provide close integration - 
including auth* using any of apache modules, and anything you can 
dream of in terms of apache modules.

However - it is very static, and I doubt this will change soon. Even 
with apache2, if you change the config ( add a webapp ) you need to 
restart apache ( which may be interesting if multithreaded and some 
module is using sessions).

Not necessary. Nothing prevent us from doing something like this :
Location /*.jsp
AjpWorker myworker
/Location
Location /servlet/*
AjpWorker myworker
/Location
And if the mod_xxx is able to discover the webapp attached to myworker,
you got them redirected to the correct worker.

And you lose the real integration into apache - which is the ability to 
use other modules.
It was a simple example, and today the real integration with apache is 
pretty bad in jk/jk2, that's why I'd like to use something as simple as 
EnvVars to determine if an URL should be mapped by mod_ajp.
There is way too many hooks handled by jk/jk2 today, more than complex
modules like proxy or rewrite and it could be a reason why jk/jk2 didn't
works well with Location/Directory/Alias and others Apache 2 directive...

My point is that we have 2 use cases, one is strong integration, where 
you want to use apache modules, and the other is dynamic, where you 
want to deal with a server where apps are often deployed or changed.
Well we could do the both :
- strong integration using hard-coded settings in httpd.conf
- dynamic integration using a sort of AjpMount Dynamic Worker1 but
  in such case you have to handle a specific URI mapping in mod_ajp.
You just can't support both use cases with the same solution - if you 
try, it's a lose-lose situation.
I agree, that's why we should first work on strong integration, at least 
for URL to worker part. Nothing prevent us for instance to be able to
update worker (direct or cluster) caracteristics dynamically, put 
mapping is hardcoded.

The real important feature in jk2 is the JMX emulation - I know 
almost nobody uses it :-).

Well the code is too complex in jk2, and that's also why we need some 
cleanups.

I agree.
However starting from scratch without having a flexible design that 
takes into account the dynamicity of tomcat is bound to result in 
another chunk of complex code ( after some time ), or something 
inflexible ( mod_webapp ? ).
mod_webapp was a good idea, which came too soon (APR mandatory before
Apache 2 release)...

Without having a common codebase and API that can be used outside 
Apache2?


I like apache2, but keeping the options open is 

Re: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Costin Manolache wrote:
Remy Maucherat wrote:
I think you're mixing the Java side with the native side. I think the 
Java side should obviously use JMX to monitor what's going on with 
Tomcat. However, the native side will just recieve proprietary messages.
We have to keep the native side as small and simple as possible to 
get into the HTTPD codebase.

No, I'm only talking about the C side. Let's call it C-JMX.
Instead of yet-another small and simple connector that grows out of 
control, it may be better to learn a lesson from java and apply it in C.
Jk and Jk2 ( and mod_jserv ) all started small and simple, then got 
more and more features and fixes.

If we start with just add custom proprietary messages for every 
feature we want to implement - the code will soon become very 
complex. Most of the messages are not in the critical path, so using a 
JMX model of get/set/event is reasonable.

Monitoring and controlling the native code from java is IMO quite 
usefull and important by itself. Even Apache supports limited 
monitoring ( SNMP, mod_status, etc ).

Ok. We'll see if I'm more convinced when you show your code ;) For now, 
I'm siding with Henri and his proposed solution.
I'd like to heard some Apache 2 specialists here, may be some core HTTPD
developpers since after all we're discussing an Apache 2.x module.
I'll send an invitation to them in httpd-dev...

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Re: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Mladen Turk wrote:
 

Costin Manolache wrote
I can understand the jk2 object oriented C is considered 
too complex. 

True.

But I certainly can't agree on a design that is not modular 
and doesn't support this basic requirement. We already have 
mod_jserv and mod_webapp
 - and a long history of rewrite from scratch to make it simpler 
turning into far more complex code.


But we don't wish to write something modular and unlimitedly extendable.
Just the load-balancing-ajp13+ over tcp/ip connector, for Apache2.
Having that in mind, we have APR, and 'almost' a finite set of requirements,
without the need to 'think modular' or 'think cross-webserver'.
Lot of the code would be reusable, but it would mean that making a mod_jni
connector would mean to make a completely different project without some
common directory holding shareable code.
  
Also making any additional 'features' to the connector (like 'discovery'
etc.) would have to be made as such, and enabled during compile time, so
that the basic functionality remains as is. This means that we don't compile
everything and then use the config to either enable or disable features, but
rather make something like 'mpm concept' selectable at compile time. 


Seriously - if you take away the JMX and support for other 
servers - why not just use mod_jserv ?

No one prevents you of making mod_jmx that will allow entire Apache2 to be
maintainable trough JMX console, not only our module :). 
A great idea, but probably something which should be a whole new module,
mod_jmx or mod_cmx (C Management Extension). I'm sure the HTTPD team 
will be more than pleased to discuss this.

Regarding other servers you meant IIS (other are less then couple of
percent) probably (apache13 users can use jk). I would like to make the
'real' IIS6 filter that will go in the NT kernel's http.sys, have dynamic
thread pool and MMC snap-in, but that is something completely different. Few
things like config tree, ajp protocol and transport can be reused cause now
we have the APR that generalizes the OS layer. 
If you wish to write a good Apache2 module or IIS filter, they have to be
different projects. Also being usable from admins point of view requires
that the apache module is configurable trough httpd.conf, and IIS trough
GUI. None of them uses JMX to configure the webserver thought.

I have on my dash-board for a long time a project that will make a TC as a
main web server, having Apache as a 'slave' for additional PHP and Perl
support, but that also is something completely different and questionably
usable.

After all mod_jk and 
jk2 got complex because of additional requirements and 
features that we wanted to implement - if we drop them then 
we can just go back and use mod_jserv.


Think that the main problem is that we don't understand the JK2 code any
more, and that the modularity combined with crosswebserver became an
obstacle rather then a feature.
Yes, that's a perfect resume of the current situation.
I don't have problem with writing clean C to make something 
JMX/CMXizable but it appears to add some complexity.

Just take a look at the actual code in jk2 :(
...
int JK_METHOD jk2_channel_setAttribute(jk_env_t *env,
   jk_bean_t *mbean,
   char *name, void *valueP)
{
jk_channel_t *ch = (jk_channel_t *)mbean-object;
char *value = valueP;
if (strcmp(debug, name) == 0) {
ch-mbean-debug = atoi(value);
}
else if (strcmp(disabled, name) == 0) {
ch-mbean-disabled = atoi(value);
if (ch-worker != NULL)
ch-worker-mbean-disabled = ch-mbean-disabled;
}
else {
if (ch-worker != NULL) {
return ch-worker-mbean-setAttribute(env, ch-worker-mbean,
   name, valueP);
}
return JK_ERR;
}
return JK_OK;
}
...
The problem with C is there is no introspection helper so we have
to do many things by hand and it tend to 'offuscate' the real code.
I'd rather like simple C way:
int ajp_channel_setDebug(jk_channel_t * channel, int debuglevel);
int ajp_channel_setState(jk_channel_t * channel, int state);
int ajp_channel_open(jk_channel_t * channel);
int ajp_channel_close(jk_channel_t * channel);
int ajp_channel_read(jk_channel_t * channel, apr_pool_t * buf);
int ajp_channel_write(jk_channel_t * channel, apr_pool_t * buf);
int ajp_channel_hasInput(jk_channel_t * channel);
That's one of the reason I suggested a specific Apache 2.x module,
to follow the HTTPD dev team habbits which are still plain C.
May be a pre-requisite to go farther will be to discuss with them
what should be a CBean ?

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Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
We're discussing on tomcat-dev about a new Apache to Tomcat
Apache 2.x module.
We'd like to see some of the core HTTPD developpers joins
the discussion about the post JK/JK2 module.
The goal of this new module :
- 100% Apache 2.x module
- Easy integration with existing Apache 2.x modules
  and directives, Location, Alias, Directory, Files, SetEnvIf...
- Configuration done ONLY in httpd.conf to follow the usual
  Apache 2.x habbits.
Well we need your precious expertise in this discussion.
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Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Bill Barker wrote:
- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie


On Jul 19, 2004, at 8:43 AM, Henri Gomez wrote:
And since I couldn't delay the release to long, we need a quick reply,
so thanks to take a look at it.
We've setup a current CVS checkout of mod_jk at
http://sp27en1.nerdc.ufl.edu/login.do which is load balancing to our
webmail cluster. If you constantly reload the page you'll see it's
setting a new JSESSIONID cookie on every request.
Could you send us you workers.properties ?
Yup.  Sending the cookie almost always fails to stick.  Sending the
jsessionid via URL-rewriting always sticks.  So it does look like there is a
bug with the lb cookie parsing.  I can't see by looking at the code what it
is however :(.  I can probably find a machine that I can hook up with the
HEAD code and lb to see what is going wrong, but I can't promise when.  If
you feel like putting more work into this, adding 'fprintf(stderr,...)'
statements should go to the Apache error_log.
I've got such settings here, with 2 TC 3.3.2.
Where did you want me put fprint ?
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Re: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Henri Gomez wrote:
Mladen Turk wrote:

The AJP13 protocol will have to be enhanced (or better enabled) to use 
the
'Service channel' and 'Data Filter'. It is not necessary to define all
Service channel modes like server topology, or server readiness, 
neither to
define all the Data Filter modes like cryptography or compression. I was
thinking of something like 'extensions' to the protocol, meaning that one
can extend the protocol to some desired level. 

Yes.
My initial idea for AJP/1.4 wass to mix on the same wire request 
forwaring which is the core functionnality of AJP/1.3 with system 
messaging.

- Service channel is a channel to send/received update between Apache
  and Tomcats :
  - Negociation between Apache and Tomcat.
* Should we use an authentification scheme between Apache and
  Tomcat (ajp1.3 make that Tomcat trust any Web server
  caming via AJP13).
* Should we compress the requests/replies
* Should we crypt the requests/replies.
  - Web Applications state updates :
* a Web Application is added
* a Web Application is removed
  - Updates in cluster configurations :
* worker1 was handling 25% of total load, now it could handle
  35%.
* worker2 in cluster is down for maintenance
* Apache 2 could use worker3 for this cluster, it could reach it
  at IP/PORT
Ideally since we could have a cluster of Apache WebServer linked to a 
cluster of Tomcat ServletEngines, and that member could enter or exit
these 2 clusters we should have something using Multicast (ideally a 
native JavaGroups) for both side.

With such the configuration in both Web and Tomcat clusters will be
to enter a Service Channel where all members will get all the services 
messages and handle them accordingly ?

What about multicast support in APR ?



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RE: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Mladen Turk
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Henri Gomez
 
 Ideally since we could have a cluster of Apache WebServer 
 linked to a cluster of Tomcat ServletEngines, and that member 
 could enter or exit these 2 clusters we should have something 
 using Multicast (ideally a native JavaGroups) for both side.
 

Wow, you've push it to the limit :)

 With such the configuration in both Web and Tomcat clusters 
 will be to enter a Service Channel where all members will get 
 all the services messages and handle them accordingly ?
 
 What about multicast support in APR ?


Each node would need both server and client listeners, so they can exchange
service messages.

But I'm not sure that I wish to see that in the core itself. It brings an
extra complexity that is needed in 'not-an-everyday usage'.
Something like should either be a different project or at least manageable
at compile time.


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Re: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Mladen Turk wrote:
 


-Original Message-
From: Henri Gomez
Ideally since we could have a cluster of Apache WebServer 
linked to a cluster of Tomcat ServletEngines, and that member 
could enter or exit these 2 clusters we should have something 
using Multicast (ideally a native JavaGroups) for both side.


Wow, you've push it to the limit :)

With such the configuration in both Web and Tomcat clusters 
will be to enter a Service Channel where all members will get 
all the services messages and handle them accordingly ?

What about multicast support in APR ?

Each node would need both server and client listeners, so they can exchange
service messages.
But I'm not sure that I wish to see that in the core itself. It brings an
extra complexity that is needed in 'not-an-everyday usage'.
Something like should either be a different project or at least manageable
at compile time.
No this settings will be for mod_ajp 2.x :)
We should focus now on mod_ajp 1.0 

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Nick Kew wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Henri Gomez wrote:

We're discussing on tomcat-dev about a new Apache to Tomcat
Apache 2.x module.
We'd like to see some of the core HTTPD developpers joins
the discussion about the post JK/JK2 module.

As a startingpoint, how about telling us what tomcat needs that
mod_proxy and friends don't provide?
In mod_jk/jk2, there is support for load-balancing and fault-tolerance
and it's a key feature.
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Re: Some JK2 ideas

2004-07-20 Thread Günter Knauf
Hi,
 A good number desparately want NTLM-based authentication.  [They like
 the single-sign on for Windows clients, but they love the notion of
 better security than clear-text name/password, etc, without having to
 buy a server certificate or use HTTPS on their intranet.]  If Apache 2
 had a stable module for this (whether or not it was from the ASF
 itself), I would think this would be a good step to get these folk to
 shift to Apache.
then shift them - this module is available since first Apache2 days:
http://www.gknw.net/development/apache/httpd-2.0/win32/modules/mod_auth_sspi-1.0.1-2.0.49.zip
and also for Apache 2.1:
http://www.gknw.net/development/apache/httpd-2.1-dev/win32/modules/mod_auth_sspi-1.0.1-2.1-dev.zip

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Re: port number at runtime

2004-07-20 Thread Günter Knauf
Hi,
 It will be very usefull if the port number on which
 the SSL and Http non-ssl ports are running, is
 available runtime. (Ex:- 8080 and 8443).
 Is it possible?

 The int getPort() method of the CoyoteConnector
 class returns the port number but its not accessible
 at runtime. If there is a sendRedirect() method in
 some jsp, where one wants to redirect from http to say
 https, then the port number must be known in advance.
 So there is a need for such an API.
request.getServerPort()

see the jsp snoop example.

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Nick Kew wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Henri Gomez wrote:
[ chopped tomcat-dev because that bounces my mail ]

As a startingpoint, how about telling us what tomcat needs that
mod_proxy and friends don't provide?
In mod_jk/jk2, there is support for load-balancing and fault-tolerance
and it's a key feature.

Good start.
I'm guessing you're ahead of me here, and your reason for posting to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is that you can see that implementing these capabilities
will be of general interest to more than just tomcat users?
Back to tomcat-dev + httpd-dev.
Well this kind of features will be usefull for more than just
Tomcat users of course.
Our main interest in inviting httpd-dev members to tomcat-dev list
is to see if common interest could be shared and of course take
recommandations for the jk/jk2 successor.
My gut feeling would be to keep this properly modular.  Let mod_proxy
be the core of it, and implement load-balancing and fault-tolerance
in additional modules.  As a matter of fact, one of my wishlist-projects
is a connection-pooling module for backend HTTP connections in a proxy.
That might actually be the same as your project.
And what about using AJP/1.3 instead of HTTP for connection to tomcat ?)
In fact mod_proxy could be a good starting point for learning how
relying request from Apache 2.x to Tomcat for what we called
actually mod_ajp, to avoid confusion with jk/jk2.
But :
- If you add load-balancing/fault-tolerance and AJP 1.3 support in
  mod_proxy you'll have about 99% of the current functionalities of
  jk 1.2.x.
We discussed also the need for some dynamic mapping and topology 
discovery/update (between Apache and Tomcats Clusters).

And in fine, we like to have some JMX like functionnalities in Apache 2,
in our case CMX for C Management Extension, a way to update Apache 2.x
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 30206] New: - Unexpected bug when use phone browser request redirect page

2004-07-20 Thread bugzilla
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http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30206

Unexpected bug when use phone browser request redirect page

   Summary: Unexpected bug when use phone browser request redirect
page
   Product: Tomcat 5
   Version: 5.0.25
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: Other
Status: NEW
  Severity: Normal
  Priority: Other
 Component: Servlet  JSP API
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Dear all,

I'm not sure is this bug? but If we use phone browser browse redirect page by 
some mobile browser it isn't work:


File: index.jsp

%
response.sendRedirect(../login.jsp);
%


I check by use telnet to my server and write HTTP request to see the response 
below:


GET /wap/index.jsp HTTP/1.0
HOST: myserver:8080

HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
Set-Cookie: JSESSIONID=F2CCA24F97C6990CB96354EE4DC398BD; Path=/wap
Location: http://myserver:8080/wap/../login.jsp
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 0
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:48:20 GMT
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Connection: close


I think that phone browser doesn't support this Location url : 
http://myserver:8080/wap/../login.jsp, but on Tomcat 4.x this file will generate 
header in absolute url like this below and it work:

HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
Location: http://myserver:8080/wap/login.jsp
Content-Length: 0
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:08:37 GMT
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Connection: close


Could you advise which Tomcat 5.x can resolve this unexpected problem. I know 
that Tomcat 5.x have performance optimization and more efficiently features.

Thank you.

Kumphol Rattanachanchai

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Workers2.properties.sample

2004-07-20 Thread George Sexton
Using the isapi_redirector2.dll file, and this this workers2.properties, the
URI for /calendar doesn't work if I Uncomment the group= line. This leads me
to believe the group= line should contain lb:lb and not lb as shown in the
/examples URI in the referenced file. If this is indeed the case, someone
should update the sample file.


[shm]
info=Scoreboard. Requried for reconfiguration and status with multiprocess
servers.
file=anon

# Defines a load balancer named lb. Use even if you only have one machine.
[lb:lb]


# Example socket channel, override port and host.
[channel.socket:localhost:8009]
port=8009
host=127.0.0.1

# define the worker
[ajp13:localhost:8009]
channel=channel.socket:localhost:8009
group=lb

[status:]
info=Status worker, displays runtime information

[uri:/calendar/*]
info=Connect Daily Web calendar
#group=lb

#[uri:/jkstatus/*]
#info=The Tomcat /jkstatus handler
#group=status:





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RE: SPAM on the list - candidates for unsubscribe

2004-07-20 Thread Benson Margulies
From what lands in my mailbox, this list has a strange propensity of
subscriptions from bizarre auto-responders. Generally, they aren't in
English, and appear to be the customer support departments of various
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Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie

2004-07-20 Thread Sandy McArthur
On Jul 20, 2004, at 5:27 AM, Henri Gomez wrote:
Could you send us you workers.properties ?
attached.


workers.properties
Description: Binary data

If
you feel like putting more work into this, adding 
'fprintf(stderr,...)'
statements should go to the Apache error_log.
Where did you want me put fprint ?
Let us know where you want them and we'll test that code too.
Sandy McArthur

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Graham Leggett
Henri Gomez wrote:
And what about using AJP/1.3 instead of HTTP for connection to tomcat ?)
In all my deployments of tomcat I have never seen the point of a custom 
protocol that did exactly what HTTP does, so all my tomcat deployments 
are all HTTP, with a simple mod_proxy frontend.

Even the get Apache to server static content feature wasn't enough of 
a drawcard, as proper HTTP cache handling and a suitable cache solved 
this problem. It was far more important for me to arrange the web 
application as a self contained unit - I would rather be more tidy with 
an install at the expense of a slightly higher load, than sacrifice a 
clean install to save some cycles.

- If you add load-balancing/fault-tolerance and AJP 1.3 support in
  mod_proxy you'll have about 99% of the current functionalities of
  jk 1.2.x.
We discussed also the need for some dynamic mapping and topology 
discovery/update (between Apache and Tomcats Clusters).
Proxy has a placeholder in it that says put the code to make decision 
about load balancing etc here - all that is needed is a hook and a 
module proxy_loadbalancing.c to make it happen.

And in fine, we like to have some JMX like functionnalities in Apache 2,
in our case CMX for C Management Extension, a way to update Apache 2.x
configuration while the server is running...
This is possibly a whole separate project in itself.
I have been meaning to work on a get-apache-config-out-of-ldap extension 
for a while, what it really should be is get apache config out of 
wherever, but this should be an Apache wide thing, not limited to a 
single module or technology.

Regards,
Graham
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Re: Some JK2 ideas

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
I actually built this yesterday upon rediscovering it -- and it seems to 
work fine.

Unfortunately:
  1. The licensing is unclear.
  2. There appears to be no active maintenance or support of this module.
I'm thus more than a little reluctant to put too many eggs in this basket.
--
Jess Holle
Günter Knauf wrote:
Hi,
 

A good number desparately want NTLM-based authentication.  [They like
the single-sign on for Windows clients, but they love the notion of
better security than clear-text name/password, etc, without having to
buy a server certificate or use HTTPS on their intranet.]  If Apache 2
had a stable module for this (whether or not it was from the ASF
itself), I would think this would be a good step to get these folk to
shift to Apache.
   

then shift them - this module is available since first Apache2 days:
http://www.gknw.net/development/apache/httpd-2.0/win32/modules/mod_auth_sspi-1.0.1-2.0.49.zip
and also for Apache 2.1:
http://www.gknw.net/development/apache/httpd-2.1-dev/win32/modules/mod_auth_sspi-1.0.1-2.1-dev.zip
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Graham Leggett wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
And what about using AJP/1.3 instead of HTTP for connection to tomcat ?)

In all my deployments of tomcat I have never seen the point of a custom 
protocol that did exactly what HTTP does, so all my tomcat deployments 
are all HTTP, with a simple mod_proxy frontend.
Well AJP/1.3 save cycle in tomcat avoiding it to re-decode headers for 
examples. It forward also the SSL infos if needed. And AJP/1.3 use 
persistant connections so it safe cycle also.

jk was designed a long time ago so may be mod_proxy allready support
persistant connections.
Even the get Apache to server static content feature wasn't enough of 
a drawcard, as proper HTTP cache handling and a suitable cache solved 
this problem. It was far more important for me to arrange the web 
application as a self contained unit - I would rather be more tidy with 
an install at the expense of a slightly higher load, than sacrifice a 
clean install to save some cycles.

- If you add load-balancing/fault-tolerance and AJP 1.3 support in
  mod_proxy you'll have about 99% of the current functionalities of
  jk 1.2.x.
We discussed also the need for some dynamic mapping and topology 
discovery/update (between Apache and Tomcats Clusters).

Proxy has a placeholder in it that says put the code to make decision 
about load balancing etc here - all that is needed is a hook and a 
module proxy_loadbalancing.c to make it happen.
Great. And if you handle in the proxy_loadbalancing.c
the JSESSION_ID, (sticky session) to map next requests
to the tomcat who set it, you'll have everything needed.
Of course you should also handle some mixed cases, like full
round-robin, and sticky round-robin.
The idea is interesting.
And in fine, we like to have some JMX like functionnalities in Apache 2,
in our case CMX for C Management Extension, a way to update Apache 2.x
configuration while the server is running...

This is possibly a whole separate project in itself.
I have been meaning to work on a get-apache-config-out-of-ldap extension 
for a while, what it really should be is get apache config out of 
wherever, but this should be an Apache wide thing, not limited to a 
single module or technology.
Well LDAP could be use for configuration outside a file. JMX/CMX goes a
bit farther since it let you update some characteristics at runtime.
But I agree that providing a JMX/CMX facade to Apache 2.x modules will
be a good starting point. Costin will certainly clarify this point with
you.
In fine the discussed mod_ajp module should detect topology change in a
second phase to learn for example that a tomcat in a cluster 
started/stopped a web application, so next requests could be redirected
to another tomcat in the cluster. Also you should be able to update the
load factor for each tomcat, may be having a load factor by Webapplication.


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Re: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
Mladen Turk wrote:
But we don't wish to write something modular and unlimitedly extendable.
Just the load-balancing-ajp13+ over tcp/ip connector, for Apache2.
Having that in mind, we have APR, and 'almost' a finite set of requirements,
without the need to 'think modular' or 'think cross-webserver'.
I understand this, and it is a good idea. I'm ok to drop multi server 
and multiple protocols or extensible and jni.

The only point I strongly disagree is droping the monitoring and 
runtime re-configuration. Tomcat is a dynamic server, people are using 
it to deploy and modify webapps all the time - editing httpd.conf and 
restarting the server on each change is not the right solution.


Also making any additional 'features' to the connector (like 'discovery'
etc.) would have to be made as such, and enabled during compile time, so
that the basic functionality remains as is. This means that we don't compile
everything and then use the config to either enable or disable features, but
rather make something like 'mpm concept' selectable at compile time. 
Well, I also disagree with this :-), enabling/disabling discovery or 
other features should be done at runtime. I don't like too many 
./configure options.


Seriously - if you take away the JMX and support for other 
servers - why not just use mod_jserv ?

No one prevents you of making mod_jmx that will allow entire Apache2 to be
maintainable trough JMX console, not only our module :). 
Unfortunately - adding monitoring and runtime reconfiguration requires a 
certain design. Some parts of apache can be monitored, but not much ( 
certainly not the modules - unless you hack something and look in their 
private data structures ). Reconfiguration is even harder without having 
it in the design.

As I said, what you describe - basic protocol only and only apache - is 
already available in mod_jserv, it just needs porting to apache2. Why 
would you want to write another module doing the same thing ?


If you wish to write a good Apache2 module or IIS filter, they have to be
different projects. Also being usable from admins point of view requires
that the apache module is configurable trough httpd.conf, and IIS trough
GUI. None of them uses JMX to configure the webserver thought.
None of the web servers support the dynamic webapp adding or clustering 
and all the feture that tomcat supports. I think monitoring and 
reconfiguration is a must feature for a servlet container, and that also 
means the web server connector should have basic support for it.


Think that the main problem is that we don't understand the JK2 code any
more, and that the modularity combined with crosswebserver became an
obstacle rather then a feature.
No problem, drop both ( and multiple protocol as well ). But don't drop 
features that actually matter.

Costin
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Manni Wood wrote:
I very rarely post to this list, but I've been building web sites for
over eight years, and want to chime in.
In my experience building web sites for Fortune 500 companies (some of
them Fortune 50 companies), the get Apache to serve static content
while Tomcat only takes care of servlets and JSPs feature is a *huge*
draw.
But do you know what the biggest draws of all would be to any Apache 2
module that connects to tomcat?
1. Fantastic documentation. I cannot stress this enough. Hell, I'd even
volunteer for this part. The module iteself could be poorly implemented,
problematic to compile, and have truly silly defaults, but if it was
incredibly well and clearly documented, I'd use it over mod_jk2 starting
tomorrow.
The documentation is bad, we all agree on this and when I take a
look at any Apache module the doc is way better. But the lack of
documentation is also due to the complexity put in jk/jk2 after
years of features additions without re-factory. Also jk and jk2
inherited this, was designed to work with Apache 1.3, 2.0, IIS, iPlanet
it supports also Domino and this cross compat stuff made it a very
different Apache module.
2. Barring my comments in 1, a module that really and truly works, and
has useful out-of-the-box (or freshly-compiled) defaults. (Maybe even,
by defalt, *only* passes servelt/JSP requests to tomcat, and lets Apache
handle the rest automatically.)
Well documentation and good default are also requested by tomcat-dev
main commiters.
It's now time to refactor and redesign it with Apache 2.x (APR/AP) in
mind to follow Apache 2.x admins habbits and try to make something
simpler.
We came on httpd-dev for advice from experts, and may be an
extended mod_proxy could be the solution. But we also want to keep
the AJP/1.3 and AJP/1.4 protocols since it works well and so a pure
HTTP proxy is only part of the game.
- Could mod_proxy be open to support AJP/1.x as tomcat connections ?
- Should we learn from mod_proxy to redesign something using AJP ?
Many questions which need experts answers...

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cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/native/common jk_lb_worker.c

2004-07-20 Thread hgomez
hgomez  2004/07/20 07:56:40

  Modified:jk/native/common jk_lb_worker.c
  Log:
  More debug infos around LB.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.21  +8 -1  jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/native/common/jk_lb_worker.c
  
  Index: jk_lb_worker.c
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/native/common/jk_lb_worker.c,v
  retrieving revision 1.20
  retrieving revision 1.21
  diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
  --- jk_lb_worker.c15 Jul 2004 07:04:15 -  1.20
  +++ jk_lb_worker.c20 Jul 2004 14:56:40 -  1.21
  @@ -296,6 +296,9 @@
   jk_b_set_buffer_size(s-reco_buf, DEF_BUFFER_SZ);
   jk_b_reset(s-reco_buf);
   s-reco_status = RECO_INITED;   
 
  +jk_log(l, JK_LOG_DEBUG, Into jk_endpoint_t::service sticky_session=%d\n, 
  +   p-worker-sticky_session);
  +
   while(1) {
   worker_record_t *rec = get_most_suitable_worker(p-worker, s, 
attempt++);
   int rc;
  @@ -306,6 +309,10 @@
   s-jvm_route = jk_pool_strdup(s-pool,  rec-name);
   
   rc = rec-w-get_endpoint(rec-w, end, l);
  +
  +jk_log(l, JK_LOG_DEBUG, Into jk_endpoint_t::service worker=%s 
jvm_route=%s rc=%d\n, 
  +   rec-name, s-jvm_route, rc);
  +
   if(rc  end) {
   int src = end-service(end, s, l, is_recoverable);
   end-done(end, l);
  
  
  

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Re: Hi

2004-07-20 Thread ccain
Your file is attached.

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Re: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
Henri Gomez wrote:
The AJP13 protocol will have to be enhanced (or better enabled) to use 
the
'Service channel' and 'Data Filter'. It is not necessary to define all
Service channel modes like server topology, or server readiness, 
neither to
define all the Data Filter modes like cryptography or compression. I was
thinking of something like 'extensions' to the protocol, meaning that one
can extend the protocol to some desired level. 

Yes.
My initial idea for AJP/1.4 wass to mix on the same wire request 
forwaring which is the core functionnality of AJP/1.3 with system 
messaging.

- Service channel is a channel to send/received update between Apache
  and Tomcats :
  - Negociation between Apache and Tomcat.
* Should we use an authentification scheme between Apache and
  Tomcat (ajp1.3 make that Tomcat trust any Web server
  caming via AJP13).
* Should we compress the requests/replies
* Should we crypt the requests/replies.
  - Web Applications state updates :
* a Web Application is added
* a Web Application is removed
  - Updates in cluster configurations :
* worker1 was handling 25% of total load, now it could handle
  35%.
* worker2 in cluster is down for maintenance
* Apache 2 could use worker3 for this cluster, it could reach it
  at IP/PORT

This sound like a lot of features. I'm sure others will be added to the 
list by other people. That is my concern - it seems the assumption is 
this will be a very simple module, so there is no need for modularity or 
 a flexible design. On the other side, just like in all other it's 
going to be very simple cases, features will keep piling.

It's one thing to have just apache2 module and ajp13 ( and nothing 
more), another thing to have all the above.

The real problem is:
1. figuring the list of features.
- I agree multiple protocols ( incl jni) and multiple servers should be 
droped.
- We seem to agree on having cluster reconfiguration feature.
- I'm not sure if we agree or not on dynamic add/remove of webapps.
- It seems I'm alone in wanting monitoring and finer reconfiguration.
- we agree on strong integration with the server
- I'm not sure about about the add/remove of webapps versus strong 
integration - I haven't seen any answer on how they can work togheter, 
it seems Mladen solves this by removing add remove webapps, which IMO 
is bad. I just don't know how you can have both at the same time - the 
only solution I found so far is to have 2 operating modes.

2. design. It seems a lot of people believe this will stay simple and 
there is no need for a flexible design  (i.e. components, etc ). If it 
is a clear understanding that the feature list will be frozen - i.e. if 
you want more features, you'll need to write a new module from scratch 
and not reuse anything from this - then it may work, but I never seen 
this happening in open source.

If C-Mbeans are too complicated - then maybe we can use GObject ( from 
gnome ) or XPCom components ( from mozilla ) ( or some subset of it). 
But please, don't start another simple project that in a year will 
have to be rewritten. Object oriented programming does have some value:-)

Costin

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Re: Some JK2 ideas v.3

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
Henri Gomez wrote:
The AJP13 protocol will have to be enhanced (or better enabled) to use 
the
'Service channel' and 'Data Filter'. It is not necessary to define all
Service channel modes like server topology, or server readiness, 
neither to
define all the Data Filter modes like cryptography or compression. I was
thinking of something like 'extensions' to the protocol, meaning that one
can extend the protocol to some desired level. 

Yes.
My initial idea for AJP/1.4 wass to mix on the same wire request 
forwaring which is the core functionnality of AJP/1.3 with system 
messaging.

- Service channel is a channel to send/received update between Apache
  and Tomcats :
  - Negociation between Apache and Tomcat.
* Should we use an authentification scheme between Apache and
  Tomcat (ajp1.3 make that Tomcat trust any Web server
  caming via AJP13).
* Should we compress the requests/replies
* Should we crypt the requests/replies.
  - Web Applications state updates :
* a Web Application is added
* a Web Application is removed
  - Updates in cluster configurations :
* worker1 was handling 25% of total load, now it could handle
  35%.
* worker2 in cluster is down for maintenance
* Apache 2 could use worker3 for this cluster, it could reach it
  at IP/PORT

This sound like a lot of features. I'm sure others will be added to the 
list by other people. That is my concern - it seems the assumption is 
this will be a very simple module, so there is no need for modularity or 
 a flexible design. On the other side, just like in all other it's 
going to be very simple cases, features will keep piling.

It's one thing to have just apache2 module and ajp13 ( and nothing 
more), another thing to have all the above.

The real problem is:
1. figuring the list of features.
- I agree multiple protocols ( incl jni) and multiple servers should be 
droped.
- We seem to agree on having cluster reconfiguration feature.
- I'm not sure if we agree or not on dynamic add/remove of webapps.
- It seems I'm alone in wanting monitoring and finer reconfiguration.
- we agree on strong integration with the server
- I'm not sure about about the add/remove of webapps versus strong 
integration - I haven't seen any answer on how they can work togheter, 
it seems Mladen solves this by removing add remove webapps, which IMO 
is bad. I just don't know how you can have both at the same time - the 
only solution I found so far is to have 2 operating modes.

2. design. It seems a lot of people believe this will stay simple and 
there is no need for a flexible design  (i.e. components, etc ). If it 
is a clear understanding that the feature list will be frozen - i.e. if 
you want more features, you'll need to write a new module from scratch 
and not reuse anything from this - then it may work, but I never seen 
this happening in open source.

If C-Mbeans are too complicated - then maybe we can use GObject ( from 
gnome ) or XPCom components ( from mozilla ) ( or some subset of it). 
But please, don't start another simple project that in a year will 
have to be rewritten. Object oriented programming does have some value:-)

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Graham Leggett
Henri Gomez wrote:
jk was designed a long time ago so may be mod_proxy allready support
persistant connections.
Persistence will happen on the backend on the condition there was 
persistence on the frontend. Generally the networks between backend and 
frontend are fast enough that connection setup is not a problem - a 
bigger problem is having expensive backend processes hanging around 
attached to a persistent connection that is not being used (assuming 
these connections are held by a tomcat thread of course, which may or 
may not be the case, not sure how tomcat is built internally).

Great. And if you handle in the proxy_loadbalancing.c
the JSESSION_ID, (sticky session) to map next requests
to the tomcat who set it, you'll have everything needed.
Sticky sessions has been on my list of things to support for ages - 
perhaps a proxy_sticky.c module could take a single parameter (the 
name of the parameter and/or cookie) and keep track of which server 
served it.

If you had redundant frontends you might have a mechanism to keep track 
of which server is handling which session stored in a shared mechanism.

A separate module might keep track of which tomcat servers are up or 
down, removing a server from the list of available servers on certain 
events (connection refused, error 4xx, 5xx, whatever).

Well LDAP could be use for configuration outside a file. JMX/CMX goes a
bit farther since it let you update some characteristics at runtime.
But I agree that providing a JMX/CMX facade to Apache 2.x modules will
be a good starting point. Costin will certainly clarify this point with
you.
In fine the discussed mod_ajp module should detect topology change in a
second phase to learn for example that a tomcat in a cluster 
started/stopped a web application, so next requests could be redirected
to another tomcat in the cluster. Also you should be able to update the
load factor for each tomcat, may be having a load factor by Webapplication.
In theory this kind of thing should not be limited to tomcat only, but 
to web applications (whether PHP, whatever) in general.

Perhaps a mechanism that allows the backend to connect to the frontend 
and say status has changed, I am offering webapp XXX now, so count me 
into the pool. Or a mechanism for the frontend to poll the 
characteristics of the backend so that it can autolearn what webapp can 
be found where (has the advantage of not requiring a special backend 
module, apart from a magic URL on the backend giving relevant the 
information)

This opens up some interesting possiblities for virtual mappings. 
Something like this:

ProxyPass /myWebapp virtual://myWebbapp (or something)
Where proxy can hand out the request to a backend that has recently said 
hi proxy, I serve myWebapp, feel free to contact me to fulfil a request.

Regards,
Graham
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Remy Maucherat
Graham Leggett wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
And what about using AJP/1.3 instead of HTTP for connection to tomcat ?)
In all my deployments of tomcat I have never seen the point of a custom 
protocol that did exactly what HTTP does, so all my tomcat deployments 
are all HTTP, with a simple mod_proxy frontend.

Even the get Apache to server static content feature wasn't enough of 
a drawcard, as proper HTTP cache handling and a suitable cache solved 
this problem. It was far more important for me to arrange the web 
application as a self contained unit - I would rather be more tidy with 
an install at the expense of a slightly higher load, than sacrifice a 
clean install to save some cycles.

- If you add load-balancing/fault-tolerance and AJP 1.3 support in
  mod_proxy you'll have about 99% of the current functionalities of
  jk 1.2.x.
We discussed also the need for some dynamic mapping and topology 
discovery/update (between Apache and Tomcats Clusters).
Proxy has a placeholder in it that says put the code to make decision 
about load balancing etc here - all that is needed is a hook and a 
module proxy_loadbalancing.c to make it happen.

And in fine, we like to have some JMX like functionnalities in Apache 2,
in our case CMX for C Management Extension, a way to update Apache 2.x
configuration while the server is running...
This is possibly a whole separate project in itself.
I have been meaning to work on a get-apache-config-out-of-ldap extension 
for a while, what it really should be is get apache config out of 
wherever, but this should be an Apache wide thing, not limited to a 
single module or technology.
I think using mod_proxy is acceptable for our most important needs, as 
the Tomcat HTTP/1.1 connnector has acceptable performance.

We would need:
- JSESSIONID stickiness
- persistent connections support
- (and of course) load balancing (with a static worker list) with failover
- bonus points for auto retry (if the request allows it) to another node 
when recieving a 503 status

SSL client-cert support (which I have no idea how to implement with 
mod_proxy, or maybe I missed something) and more generally, support for 
doing auth on the native webserver doesn't seem to be there, which is a 
problem.

For ease of use, we need this Tomcat policy (actually, it's not Tomcat 
specific, obviously) to be included in the Apache source distribution, 
and ready to enable.

I would like a more custom solution better, but if that's the only 
acceptable solution for you (and you accept the module into the Apache 
;) ), then I'm ok with it.

In this case, we would need another, more complex connector for the 
advanced use cases, but we would have addressed the needs of the 
majority of users.

Rémy
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WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
In Tomcat 4.1.x, I discovered that RMI calls from Tomcat failed when the 
any of the full file paths of the web app jars contained a space (' ') 
character.

At the time, I was told this would be fixed in Tomcat 5 and to work 
around it in Tomcat 4.1.x, which I did.

Unfortunately, now that I've moved to Tomcat 5, I discover that the bug 
is still quite present.  There is now a nice getURI() method along with 
the previous getURL() method.  Unfortunately, getURLs() does not use 
getURI( file ).toURL() or any such as it would need to for the RMI 
runtime's sake (as it calls getURLs()).

I can clearly patch WebappClassLoader.getURLs() to make such calls 
myself, but:

  1. I'm left wondering about the broader implications of doing just this.
 * In Tomcat 4.1.x, I changed getURL() to do
   canonicalFile.toURI().toURL() under Java 1.4 and a hand
   coded equivalent in previous JVMs.
 * This works quite robustly in my experience, but I'm left
   wondering what the overall best, safest, and most performant
   fix is.
  2. I don't want to keep having to maintain my own fix.  An overall
 optimal fix should be integrated into Tomcat 5 so that this issue
 ceases to be an issue for everyone using Tomcat.
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
Well, the mod_proxy + enhancements for sticky session + enhancements for 
passing auth info sounds reasonable - and if nobody wants the JMX 
support, then maybe we won't need to write a new connector anyway :-)

Remy will be happy - we'll only use the http connector.
Costin
Graham Leggett wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
jk was designed a long time ago so may be mod_proxy allready support
persistant connections.

Persistence will happen on the backend on the condition there was 
persistence on the frontend. Generally the networks between backend and 
frontend are fast enough that connection setup is not a problem - a 
bigger problem is having expensive backend processes hanging around 
attached to a persistent connection that is not being used (assuming 
these connections are held by a tomcat thread of course, which may or 
may not be the case, not sure how tomcat is built internally).

Great. And if you handle in the proxy_loadbalancing.c
the JSESSION_ID, (sticky session) to map next requests
to the tomcat who set it, you'll have everything needed.

Sticky sessions has been on my list of things to support for ages - 
perhaps a proxy_sticky.c module could take a single parameter (the 
name of the parameter and/or cookie) and keep track of which server 
served it.

If you had redundant frontends you might have a mechanism to keep track 
of which server is handling which session stored in a shared mechanism.

A separate module might keep track of which tomcat servers are up or 
down, removing a server from the list of available servers on certain 
events (connection refused, error 4xx, 5xx, whatever).

Well LDAP could be use for configuration outside a file. JMX/CMX goes a
bit farther since it let you update some characteristics at runtime.
But I agree that providing a JMX/CMX facade to Apache 2.x modules will
be a good starting point. Costin will certainly clarify this point with
you.
In fine the discussed mod_ajp module should detect topology change in a
second phase to learn for example that a tomcat in a cluster 
started/stopped a web application, so next requests could be redirected
to another tomcat in the cluster. Also you should be able to update the
load factor for each tomcat, may be having a load factor by 
Webapplication.

In theory this kind of thing should not be limited to tomcat only, but 
to web applications (whether PHP, whatever) in general.

Perhaps a mechanism that allows the backend to connect to the frontend 
and say status has changed, I am offering webapp XXX now, so count me 
into the pool. Or a mechanism for the frontend to poll the 
characteristics of the backend so that it can autolearn what webapp can 
be found where (has the advantage of not requiring a special backend 
module, apart from a magic URL on the backend giving relevant the 
information)

This opens up some interesting possiblities for virtual mappings. 
Something like this:

ProxyPass /myWebapp virtual://myWebbapp (or something)
Where proxy can hand out the request to a backend that has recently said 
hi proxy, I serve myWebapp, feel free to contact me to fulfil a request.

Regards,
Graham
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Graham Leggett
Henri Gomez wrote:
It's now time to refactor and redesign it with Apache 2.x (APR/AP) in
mind to follow Apache 2.x admins habbits and try to make something
simpler.
We came on httpd-dev for advice from experts, and may be an
extended mod_proxy could be the solution. But we also want to keep
the AJP/1.3 and AJP/1.4 protocols since it works well and so a pure
HTTP proxy is only part of the game.
I think any module that speaks ajp/1.X should be called mod_ajp, keeps 
things simple and clean.

- Could mod_proxy be open to support AJP/1.x as tomcat connections ?
I don't think mod_proxy should support ajp, rather a dedicated ajp 
module should.

But I'm still not convinced a separate protocol is needed when HTTP 
exists and is supported already.

The httpd serves the static content feature can be implemented through 
extending ProxyPass to support regular expressions, for example:

ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp http://tomcat/myWebapp/
I'm not sure if persistent connections over and above HTTP/1.1 
keepalives is that useful.

Regards,
Graham
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RE: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,

Unfortunately, now that I've moved to Tomcat 5, I discover that the bug
is still quite present.  There is now a nice getURI() method along with
the previous getURL() method.  Unfortunately, getURLs() does not use
getURI( file ).toURL() or any such as it would need to for the RMI
runtime's sake (as it calls getURLs()).

The getURI method returns a URL object, not a URI object, as the latter
is JDK 1.4-only and we still officially support building and running on
JDK 1.3.

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
Graham Leggett wrote:
In all my deployments of tomcat I have never seen the point of a custom 
protocol that did exactly what HTTP does, so all my tomcat deployments 
are all HTTP, with a simple mod_proxy frontend.

Even the get Apache to server static content feature wasn't enough of 
a drawcard, as proper HTTP cache handling and a suitable cache solved 
this problem. It was far more important for me to arrange the web 
application as a self contained unit - I would rather be more tidy with 
an install at the expense of a slightly higher load, than sacrifice a 
clean install to save some cycles.
There is a bit more - we want to be able to have Apache authenticate and 
pass this info to tomcat for example. I don't know if this can be done 
with mod_proxy ( maybe have it add an extra header - but that may have 
security problems ).


And in fine, we like to have some JMX like functionnalities in Apache 2,
in our case MX for C Management Extension, a way to update Apache 2.x
configuration while the server is running...

This is possibly a whole separate project in itself.
I have been meaning to work on a get-apache-config-out-of-ldap extension 
for a while, what it really should be is get apache config out of 
wherever, but this should be an Apache wide thing, not limited to a 
single module or technology.
The actual problem is how to push config changes without restarting the 
server. Some changes obviously require restart, but chaning mappings for 
example should be dynamic.

In MPM multithreaded mode some modules may cache session information - 
frequent restarts are going to be more difficult than with single 
threaded server.

Costin
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Wayne Frazee wrote:
Please pardon me for attempting to marshall the obvious however what is
the advantage of AJP/1.x over HTTP?  
- Persistant connections, mod_jk use a pool of socket connections
  to avoid reopening connections between Apache and Tomcats.
  You could set socket timeout to make these sockets more or less
  persistant. Also socket keep alive could be specified to avoid
  firewall cut connexions without activity.
- AJP/1.3 reuse Apache headers decoding to avoid duplicate works in
  both Apache 2 and Tomcat, these headers are sent binary serialized.
- AJP/1.4 (AJP/1.3 successor), add negociation support :
  - Apache and tomcat could be used in a secure mode, ie they should
share the same secret word.
  - Possible add-on is to provide compression and/or crypt of datas
between Apache and Tomcat.
   - AJP/1.4 should add a 'service layer' which should be used to warn
 about topology update.

Why is it worth the development time of apache volunteers?  
Well development is allready here, we only need to extract all AJP stuff
in a separate library (discussed in tomcat-dev).
And why is AJP so advantageous over HTTP/1.1 that we should redesign
existing modules to use it?
The initial invitation was Apache 2.x module expert advices to design
at the best the jk/jk2 possible successor. We didn't ask any httpd
member to work on it (even if there is some people involved in 
tomcat-dev/jk/jk2 allready involved in APR and Apache 2, ie 
Jean-Frederic Clere).

I do apologize but I am not really familiar with the inner workings of
tomcat as no webhost I have worked for to date has really pushed it.  I
think the answers to these questions would be useful for all of us who
are more-or-less pure apache users/devs...
Yes.
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Re: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Remy Maucherat
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
Unfortunately, now that I've moved to Tomcat 5, I discover that the bug
is still quite present.  There is now a nice getURI() method along with
the previous getURL() method.  Unfortunately, getURLs() does not use
getURI( file ).toURL() or any such as it would need to for the RMI
runtime's sake (as it calls getURLs()).
The getURI method returns a URL object, not a URI object, as the latter
is JDK 1.4-only and we still officially support building and running on
JDK 1.3.
I agree: you really should be complaining about Sun (who wrote the bad 
URL handling in the first place).

Rémy
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Remy Maucherat
Costin Manolache wrote:
Well, the mod_proxy + enhancements for sticky session + enhancements for 
passing auth info sounds reasonable - and if nobody wants the JMX 
support, then maybe we won't need to write a new connector anyway :-)

Remy will be happy - we'll only use the http connector.
I think AJP has advantages, but if the HTTPd folks only accept a simple 
solution based on mod_proxy, then so be it, it'll be our entry level 
connector.

Rémy
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Graham Leggett wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
It's now time to refactor and redesign it with Apache 2.x (APR/AP) in
mind to follow Apache 2.x admins habbits and try to make something
simpler.
We came on httpd-dev for advice from experts, and may be an
extended mod_proxy could be the solution. But we also want to keep
the AJP/1.3 and AJP/1.4 protocols since it works well and so a pure
HTTP proxy is only part of the game.

I think any module that speaks ajp/1.X should be called mod_ajp, keeps 
things simple and clean.
We agree and I wonder if a mod_ajp could be used in conjunction with
mod_proxy ? A sort of alternative way to route requests to tomcat.
- Could mod_proxy be open to support AJP/1.x as tomcat connections ?

I don't think mod_proxy should support ajp, rather a dedicated ajp 
module should.
We agree.
But I'm still not convinced a separate protocol is needed when HTTP 
exists and is supported already.

The httpd serves the static content feature can be implemented through 
extending ProxyPass to support regular expressions, for example:

ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp http://tomcat/myWebapp/
I'm not sure if persistent connections over and above HTTP/1.1 
keepalives is that useful.
Well let see my suggestion :
ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp ajp://myajpworker/
myajpworker is not a machine but a virtual resource which could be :
- a physical Tomcat using its AJP/1.3 connector
- a cluster of physical Tomcats using their AJP/1.3 connector
And via AJP/1.4 we could make Apache 2 learn about cluster updates
in real-time.
Could we have this kind of Virtual Forward service used with mod_proxy ?
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Re: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
 

Unfortunately, now that I've moved to Tomcat 5, I discover that the bug
is still quite present.  There is now a nice getURI() method along with
the previous getURL() method.  Unfortunately, getURLs() does not use
getURI( file ).toURL() or any such as it would need to for the RMI
runtime's sake (as it calls getURLs()).
   

The getURI method returns a URL object, not a URI object, as the latter
is JDK 1.4-only and we still officially support building and running on
JDK 1.3.
 

So getURI is essentially doing a file.toURI().toURL() anyway?
If so, can we just switch getURLs() to call getURI() rather than getURL()?
Or should we switch getURL() to call getURI after attempting to get the 
canonical file object (which is all it does apart from toURL(), whose 
results are broken as far as the RMI runtime is concerned)?

If need be, I can keep either of these patches in my own distribution, 
but I always like to see a single, consistent fix for everyone.

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Re: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
Unfortunately, now that I've moved to Tomcat 5, I discover that the bug
is still quite present.  There is now a nice getURI() method along with
the previous getURL() method.  Unfortunately, getURLs() does not use
getURI( file ).toURL() or any such as it would need to for the RMI
runtime's sake (as it calls getURLs()).
The getURI method returns a URL object, not a URI object, as the latter
is JDK 1.4-only and we still officially support building and running on
JDK 1.3.
I agree: you really should be complaining about Sun (who wrote the bad 
URL handling in the first place).
Agreed -- but that won't fix the issue.
So can we fix it in 5.0.x or not?
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Costin Manolache wrote:
Well, the mod_proxy + enhancements for sticky session + enhancements 
for passing auth info sounds reasonable - and if nobody wants the JMX 
support, then maybe we won't need to write a new connector anyway :-)

Remy will be happy - we'll only use the http connector.

I think AJP has advantages, but if the HTTPd folks only accept a simple 
solution based on mod_proxy, then so be it, it'll be our entry level 
connector.
The discussion is still open :)
BTW, we could imagine that even AJP/1.4 topology update could came
from HTTP/1.1
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Costin Manolache wrote:
Well, the mod_proxy + enhancements for sticky session + enhancements 
for passing auth info sounds reasonable - and if nobody wants the JMX 
support, then maybe we won't need to write a new connector anyway :-)

Remy will be happy - we'll only use the http connector.
I think AJP has advantages, but if the HTTPd folks only accept a 
simple solution based on mod_proxy, then so be it, it'll be our entry 
level connector.
One issue here:
When Apache and Tomcat are used together via AJP13:
  1. The host, port, protocol, etc, are exactly that at the Apache
 level, i.e. one's web app sees Apache and Tomcat as 1 entity. 
 This is a very good thing overall compared to reverse proxying (if
 that's the mod_proxy proposal).
  2. The body content, query string, etc, are reported to one's web
 application precisely as sent, whereas Tomcat pre-processes them a
 bit more than picky, low-level request parsing code can accept. 
 [Yes, the picky code is *too* picky, but it isn't mine :-)]

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Costin Manolache wrote:
Graham Leggett wrote:
In all my deployments of tomcat I have never seen the point of a 
custom protocol that did exactly what HTTP does, so all my tomcat 
deployments are all HTTP, with a simple mod_proxy frontend.

Even the get Apache to server static content feature wasn't enough 
of a drawcard, as proper HTTP cache handling and a suitable cache 
solved this problem. It was far more important for me to arrange the 
web application as a self contained unit - I would rather be more 
tidy with an install at the expense of a slightly higher load, than 
sacrifice a clean install to save some cycles.
There is a bit more - we want to be able to have Apache authenticate 
and pass this info to tomcat for example. I don't know if this can be 
done with mod_proxy ( maybe have it add an extra header - but that may 
have security problems ).
That is a hard requirement for us as well.
And in fine, we like to have some JMX like functionnalities in 
Apache 2,
in our case MX for C Management Extension, a way to update Apache 2.x
configuration while the server is running...
This is possibly a whole separate project in itself.

Agreed.  It sounds like a great project, but a *separate* project and 
module.

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Graham Leggett wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
It's now time to refactor and redesign it with Apache 2.x (APR/AP) in
mind to follow Apache 2.x admins habbits and try to make something
simpler.
We came on httpd-dev for advice from experts, and may be an
extended mod_proxy could be the solution. But we also want to keep
the AJP/1.3 and AJP/1.4 protocols since it works well and so a pure
HTTP proxy is only part of the game.
I think any module that speaks ajp/1.X should be called mod_ajp, keeps 
things simple and clean.

- Could mod_proxy be open to support AJP/1.x as tomcat connections ?
I don't think mod_proxy should support ajp, rather a dedicated ajp 
module should.

But I'm still not convinced a separate protocol is needed when HTTP 
exists and is supported already.

The httpd serves the static content feature can be implemented 
through extending ProxyPass to support regular expressions, for example:
That would be a hard requirement for our usage as well.  A huge reason 
for using Apache is to serve the static content at that level.

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Henri Gomez wrote:
Wayne Frazee wrote:
Please pardon me for attempting to marshall the obvious however what is
the advantage of AJP/1.x over HTTP?  
- Persistant connections, mod_jk use a pool of socket connections
  to avoid reopening connections between Apache and Tomcats.
  You could set socket timeout to make these sockets more or less
  persistant. Also socket keep alive could be specified to avoid
  firewall cut connexions without activity.
The keep alive stuff turns out to be a hard requirement for many 
deployments.

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
I agree here, it is an excelent idea.
If we want to keep it to a minimum - no multi-protocol, no jmx, no 
multiple servers - then making enhancements to mod_proxy and using http 
is much better than a mod_ajp.

Tomcat httpd is fast enough, and all mod_proxy enhancements for load 
balancing could be used for more than tomcat.

Costin
Remy Maucherat wrote:
I think using mod_proxy is acceptable for our most important needs, as 
the Tomcat HTTP/1.1 connnector has acceptable performance.

We would need:
- JSESSIONID stickiness
- persistent connections support
- (and of course) load balancing (with a static worker list) with failover
- bonus points for auto retry (if the request allows it) to another node 
when recieving a 503 status

SSL client-cert support (which I have no idea how to implement with 
mod_proxy, or maybe I missed something) and more generally, support for 
doing auth on the native webserver doesn't seem to be there, which is a 
problem.

For ease of use, we need this Tomcat policy (actually, it's not Tomcat 
specific, obviously) to be included in the Apache source distribution, 
and ready to enable.

I would like a more custom solution better, but if that's the only 
acceptable solution for you (and you accept the module into the Apache 
;) ), then I'm ok with it.

In this case, we would need another, more complex connector for the 
advanced use cases, but we would have addressed the needs of the 
majority of users.

Rémy

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Graham Leggett
Remy Maucherat wrote:
I think AJP has advantages, but if the HTTPd folks only accept a simple 
solution based on mod_proxy, then so be it, it'll be our entry level 
connector.
We'll certainly be interested in features like load balancing, sticky 
sessions, stuff like that - but the general design philosophy is that 
the functionality should be general enough to be used as widely as possible.

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Re: Time for JkMountExclude in jk 1.2.x ?

2004-07-20 Thread Glenn Nielsen
Have you looked at using JkAutoAlias ?

On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 12:27:41PM +0200, Henri Gomez wrote:
 Hi to all,
 
 As many I'm puzzled in jk 1.2.x in some case :
 
 VirtualHost *:80
ServerName test101.mysys
DocumentRoot /www/sys101/htdocs
JkMount /* test-101
 /VirtualHost
 
 VirtualHost *:80
ServerName test102.mysys
DocumentRoot /www/sys102/htdocs
JkMount /* test-102
 /VirtualHost
 
 No imagine I want to have /home in test102.mysys mapped
 no more to tomcat but to local directory.
 
 VirtualHost *:80
ServerName test102.mysys
DocumentRoot /www/sys102/htdocs
JkMount /* test-102
 
Alias /home/ /www/sys102/home/
 
 
Directory /www/sys102/home
 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
/Directory
 
 /VirtualHost
 
 There is no way to get http://test102.mysys/home goes to 
 /www/sys102/home local directory.
 
 What about adding support for JkMountExclude :
 
 VirtualHost *:80
ServerName test102.mysys
DocumentRoot /www/sys102/htdocs
JkMount /* test-102
JkMountExclude /home/*
 
Alias /home/ /www/sys102/home/
 
 
Directory /www/sys102/home
 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
/Directory
 
 /VirtualHost
 
 
 These will prevent JkMount to forward /home/* to tomcat worker
 test-102.
 
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Peter Lin
although I'm not a commiter, I like to add 2 cents to the discussion.
I like the idea of supporting JMX and the capbility of deploying a
webapp without restarting the server. From the discussions so far, the
task isn't simple, and may not fit the majority of users.

if 80% of the users don't have this need, justifying the extra
features and possibly added complexity is debatable. Would it be
sufficient to create a hook for more advanced mods?  There are people
using tomcat's admin tool to deploy/redeploy webapps, so having the
feature in mod_proxy or whatever would make the edge cases less
painful.

using JMX would make managing a cluster of servers easier and reduce
the need to login to every single server to stop, edit conf files, and
restart.

peter


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:18:39 -0700, Costin Manolache
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 Well, the mod_proxy + enhancements for sticky session + enhancements for
 passing auth info sounds reasonable - and if nobody wants the JMX
 support, then maybe we won't need to write a new connector anyway :-)
 
 Remy will be happy - we'll only use the http connector.
 
 Costin
 
 
 
 Graham Leggett wrote:
 
  Henri Gomez wrote:
 
  jk was designed a long time ago so may be mod_proxy allready support
  persistant connections.
 
 
  Persistence will happen on the backend on the condition there was
  persistence on the frontend. Generally the networks between backend and
  frontend are fast enough that connection setup is not a problem - a
  bigger problem is having expensive backend processes hanging around
  attached to a persistent connection that is not being used (assuming
  these connections are held by a tomcat thread of course, which may or
  may not be the case, not sure how tomcat is built internally).
 
  Great. And if you handle in the proxy_loadbalancing.c
  the JSESSION_ID, (sticky session) to map next requests
  to the tomcat who set it, you'll have everything needed.
 
 
  Sticky sessions has been on my list of things to support for ages -
  perhaps a proxy_sticky.c module could take a single parameter (the
  name of the parameter and/or cookie) and keep track of which server
  served it.
 
  If you had redundant frontends you might have a mechanism to keep track
  of which server is handling which session stored in a shared mechanism.
 
  A separate module might keep track of which tomcat servers are up or
  down, removing a server from the list of available servers on certain
  events (connection refused, error 4xx, 5xx, whatever).
 
  Well LDAP could be use for configuration outside a file. JMX/CMX goes a
  bit farther since it let you update some characteristics at runtime.
 
  But I agree that providing a JMX/CMX facade to Apache 2.x modules will
  be a good starting point. Costin will certainly clarify this point with
  you.
 
  In fine the discussed mod_ajp module should detect topology change in a
  second phase to learn for example that a tomcat in a cluster
  started/stopped a web application, so next requests could be redirected
  to another tomcat in the cluster. Also you should be able to update the
  load factor for each tomcat, may be having a load factor by
  Webapplication.
 
 
  In theory this kind of thing should not be limited to tomcat only, but
  to web applications (whether PHP, whatever) in general.
 
  Perhaps a mechanism that allows the backend to connect to the frontend
  and say status has changed, I am offering webapp XXX now, so count me
  into the pool. Or a mechanism for the frontend to poll the
  characteristics of the backend so that it can autolearn what webapp can
  be found where (has the advantage of not requiring a special backend
  module, apart from a magic URL on the backend giving relevant the
  information)
 
  This opens up some interesting possiblities for virtual mappings.
  Something like this:
 
  ProxyPass /myWebapp virtual://myWebbapp (or something)
 
  Where proxy can hand out the request to a backend that has recently said
  hi proxy, I serve myWebapp, feel free to contact me to fulfil a request.
 
  Regards,
  Graham
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2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
 ---BeginMessage---
Manni Wood wrote:
One of the things I thought AJP did that HTTP proxying to Tomcat could
not (but correct me here if I'm wrong) is let the servelt container know
whether or not the connection is HTTP vs. HTTPS. This sort of
information needs to get passed back to the servlet container to satisfy
the servlet specification.
This can be easily implemented by a combination of 
mod_proxy/mod_dir/mod_ssl and a well defined set of request headers - 
this doesn't justify a whole separate protocol though.

It looks like the stuff that ajp can do over and above HTTP can be 
implemented using HTTP without much trouble.

Also, servlets (by the specification) need to be able to manipulate HTP
request headers, particularly where cookies are concerned. I was under
the impression that AJP allowed this, whereas mod_proxy did not, but
perhaps I am wrong?
mod_proxy just passes headers (excluding hop by hop headers) between 
httpd and the backend tomcat, I don't know of any reason why such 
headers can't be manipulated by a servlet container.

Regards,
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Remy Maucherat
Jess Holle wrote:
One issue here:
When Apache and Tomcat are used together via AJP13:
  1. The host, port, protocol, etc, are exactly that at the Apache
 level, i.e. one's web app sees Apache and Tomcat as 1 entity.  
This is a very good thing overall compared to reverse proxying (if
 that's the mod_proxy proposal).
I have no idea how to get around that ;) This seems a showstopper: the 
user will have to read the connector's documentation.

  2. The body content, query string, etc, are reported to one's web
 application precisely as sent, whereas Tomcat pre-processes them a
 bit more than picky, low-level request parsing code can accept. 
 [Yes, the picky code is *too* picky, but it isn't mine :-)]
I have no idea what your webapp is doing, but it's not portable. All the 
trasformations done respect the HTTP and servlet specifications.

Rémy
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Costin Manolache wrote:
Well, the mod_proxy + enhancements for sticky session + enhancements 
for passing auth info sounds reasonable - and if nobody wants the JMX 
support, then maybe we won't need to write a new connector anyway :-)

Remy will be happy - we'll only use the http connector.

I think AJP has advantages, but if the HTTPd folks only accept a simple 
solution based on mod_proxy, then so be it, it'll be our entry level 
connector.

AJP is an RPC protocol - the binary encoding of http headers doesn't 
buy us too much ( with coyote httpd ). Session stickiness is easy to add 
to mod_proxy, and I assume passing auth info is also possible.

If we only want to use ajp for forwarding - no back channel for config - 
then there is no point in using RPC and binary protocol.

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Graham Leggett
Henri Gomez wrote:
Well let see my suggestion :
ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp ajp://myajpworker/
myajpworker is not a machine but a virtual resource which could be :
- a physical Tomcat using its AJP/1.3 connector
- a cluster of physical Tomcats using their AJP/1.3 connector
And via AJP/1.4 we could make Apache 2 learn about cluster updates
in real-time.
Could we have this kind of Virtual Forward service used with mod_proxy ?
It's quite possible yes - currently mod_proxy has proxy_http and 
proxy_ftp to speak HTTP and FTP to the backend, it would make sense to 
put in proxy_ajp which could speak AJP to the backend, and would have 
the advantage of following the same config directives as the rest of proxy.

Regards,
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Re: Time for JkMountExclude in jk 1.2.x ?

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
Have you looked at using JkAutoAlias ?
What do you means ?
JkAutoAlias automatically detected Alias/Directory and excluded
them from JkMount * ?
On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 12:27:41PM +0200, Henri Gomez wrote:
Hi to all,
As many I'm puzzled in jk 1.2.x in some case :
VirtualHost *:80
  ServerName test101.mysys
  DocumentRoot /www/sys101/htdocs
  JkMount /* test-101
/VirtualHost
VirtualHost *:80
  ServerName test102.mysys
  DocumentRoot /www/sys102/htdocs
  JkMount /* test-102
/VirtualHost
No imagine I want to have /home in test102.mysys mapped
no more to tomcat but to local directory.
VirtualHost *:80
  ServerName test102.mysys
  DocumentRoot /www/sys102/htdocs
  JkMount /* test-102
  Alias /home/ /www/sys102/home/
  Directory /www/sys102/home
   Options Indexes MultiViews
   AllowOverride None
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
  /Directory
/VirtualHost
There is no way to get http://test102.mysys/home goes to 
/www/sys102/home local directory.

What about adding support for JkMountExclude :
VirtualHost *:80
  ServerName test102.mysys
  DocumentRoot /www/sys102/htdocs
  JkMount /* test-102
  JkMountExclude /home/*
  Alias /home/ /www/sys102/home/
  Directory /www/sys102/home
   Options Indexes MultiViews
   AllowOverride None
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
  /Directory
/VirtualHost
These will prevent JkMount to forward /home/* to tomcat worker
test-102.
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
Henri Gomez wrote:
Graham Leggett wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
It's now time to refactor and redesign it with Apache 2.x (APR/AP) in
mind to follow Apache 2.x admins habbits and try to make something
simpler.
We came on httpd-dev for advice from experts, and may be an
extended mod_proxy could be the solution. But we also want to keep
the AJP/1.3 and AJP/1.4 protocols since it works well and so a pure
HTTP proxy is only part of the game.

I think any module that speaks ajp/1.X should be called mod_ajp, keeps 
things simple and clean.

We agree and I wonder if a mod_ajp could be used in conjunction with
mod_proxy ? A sort of alternative way to route requests to tomcat.
Or maybe just a channel for passing config data ( but leave request 
passing to mod_proxy ) ?

I.e. the only thing that will remain in mod_ajp will be the autoconf and 
   monitoring.



- Could mod_proxy be open to support AJP/1.x as tomcat connections ?

I don't think mod_proxy should support ajp, rather a dedicated ajp 
module should.

We agree.
But I'm still not convinced a separate protocol is needed when HTTP 
exists and is supported already.

The httpd serves the static content feature can be implemented 
through extending ProxyPass to support regular expressions, for example:

ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp http://tomcat/myWebapp/
I'm not sure if persistent connections over and above HTTP/1.1 
keepalives is that useful.

Well let see my suggestion :
ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp ajp://myajpworker/
myajpworker is not a machine but a virtual resource which could be :
- a physical Tomcat using its AJP/1.3 connector
- a cluster of physical Tomcats using their AJP/1.3 connector
Can we simplify this ?
Let's drop the word worker too :-)
The request is passed to a servlet container that may consist of one or 
multiple instances.


Costin

And via AJP/1.4 we could make Apache 2 learn about cluster updates
in real-time.
Could we have this kind of Virtual Forward service used with mod_proxy ?


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Re: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Remy Maucherat
Jess Holle wrote:
Agreed -- but that won't fix the issue.
So can we fix it in 5.0.x or not?
Possibly, but it's risky.
Rémy
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 05:20:53PM +0200, Graham Leggett wrote:
The httpd serves the static content feature can be implemented through 
extending ProxyPass to support regular expressions, for example:

ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp http://tomcat/myWebapp/

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI}  ^/(.*)\.jsp$
RewriteRule (.*)http://127.0.0.1:8080$1 [P,L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI}  ^/(.*)/servlet/(.*)$
RewriteRule (.*)http://127.0.0.1:8080$1 [P,L]
.. is what I have, no need for new features :)
Well I didn't see where is load-balancing and fault-tolerance here ?)
That's one of the major feature of jk/jk2 and why many companies
used jk as frontal to Tomcat cluster farms.
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Graham Leggett wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
Well let see my suggestion :
ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp ajp://myajpworker/
myajpworker is not a machine but a virtual resource which could be :
- a physical Tomcat using its AJP/1.3 connector
- a cluster of physical Tomcats using their AJP/1.3 connector
And via AJP/1.4 we could make Apache 2 learn about cluster updates
in real-time.
Could we have this kind of Virtual Forward service used with mod_proxy ?

It's quite possible yes - currently mod_proxy has proxy_http and 
proxy_ftp to speak HTTP and FTP to the backend, it would make sense to 
put in proxy_ajp which could speak AJP to the backend, and would have 
the advantage of following the same config directives as the rest of proxy.
Well :
- mod_proxy + proxy_ajp could be one solution.
Now what about the mod_proxy load-balancing add-on ?
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Costin Manolache wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
Graham Leggett wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:
It's now time to refactor and redesign it with Apache 2.x (APR/AP) in
mind to follow Apache 2.x admins habbits and try to make something
simpler.
We came on httpd-dev for advice from experts, and may be an
extended mod_proxy could be the solution. But we also want to keep
the AJP/1.3 and AJP/1.4 protocols since it works well and so a pure
HTTP proxy is only part of the game.


I think any module that speaks ajp/1.X should be called mod_ajp, 
keeps things simple and clean.

We agree and I wonder if a mod_ajp could be used in conjunction with
mod_proxy ? A sort of alternative way to route requests to tomcat.

Or maybe just a channel for passing config data ( but leave request 
passing to mod_proxy ) ?

I.e. the only thing that will remain in mod_ajp will be the autoconf and 
   monitoring.



- Could mod_proxy be open to support AJP/1.x as tomcat connections ?


I don't think mod_proxy should support ajp, rather a dedicated ajp 
module should.

We agree.
But I'm still not convinced a separate protocol is needed when HTTP 
exists and is supported already.

The httpd serves the static content feature can be implemented 
through extending ProxyPass to support regular expressions, for example:

ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp http://tomcat/myWebapp/
I'm not sure if persistent connections over and above HTTP/1.1 
keepalives is that useful.

Well let see my suggestion :
ProxyPass /myWebapp/*.jsp ajp://myajpworker/
myajpworker is not a machine but a virtual resource which could be :
- a physical Tomcat using its AJP/1.3 connector
- a cluster of physical Tomcats using their AJP/1.3 connector

Can we simplify this ?
Let's drop the word worker too :-)
The request is passed to a servlet container that may consist of one or 
multiple instances.
Agreed, remove the old terms.
The proposal about mod_proxy + proxy_ajp could be something fine
isn't it.
And proxy_ajp could map to a dynamically updated ajp resource ?


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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez
Manni Wood wrote:
I asked you to develop your argument ;)

Ah. I'm trying my best. :-)

May be you could take a look as documentalist ?)

I would very happily volunteer my time to document this new module.
Where do I sign up? How do I gain acceptance as a documentor, and if I
am accepted, what would my next steps be? I'd love to help.
Well what about writing jk 1.2.x but following Apache 2.0 xml documentation.
You could start by merging Apache 2.0 directive, like JkMount :
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/connectors-doc/jk2/jk/aphowto.html
and workers.properties :
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/connectors-doc/jk2/jk/workershowto.html
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Costin Manolache
Henri Gomez wrote:
Can we simplify this ?
Let's drop the word worker too :-)
The request is passed to a servlet container that may consist of one 
or multiple instances.

Agreed, remove the old terms.
The proposal about mod_proxy + proxy_ajp could be something fine
isn't it.
And proxy_ajp could map to a dynamically updated ajp resource ?
Well, we could drop ajp as well from proxy-related config.
The important thing is to have the proxy know about a cluster - and 
provide hooks to allow this to be dynamically configured.

mod_ajp would deal only with the cluster ( and other ? ) configuration.
Security and extra info about request will be encoded in special headers 
( and of course, something should filter those headers from the internet 
 to prevent security issues ).

Costin
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[Fwd: Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev]

2004-07-20 Thread Henri Gomez

---BeginMessage---
Henri Gomez wrote:
- mod_proxy + proxy_ajp could be one solution.
Now what about the mod_proxy load-balancing add-on ?
Would be a completely separate module.
The way proxy works, is that it:
- obtains the IP address to connect to (currently via DNS round robin, 
but a module proxy_loadbalancer might make a more intelligent choice of 
IP address)

- opens a connection to that address (unless a connection is already 
open due to keepalive behaviour, in which case just use that)

- pass control to the backend protocol handler (proxy_http, or 
proxy_ftp, or proxy_ajp)

Load balancing would happen at step one. Such a module would need a way 
to decide load (in the simplest case, by spreading load, in a more 
complex case, by actually asking the backend servers for the loads so to 
make a more intelligent decision). Such a module need not work with 
tomcat only, but with any backend, and any protocol.

Regards,
Graham
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Graham Leggett
Henri Gomez wrote:
- mod_proxy + proxy_ajp could be one solution.
Now what about the mod_proxy load-balancing add-on ?
Would be a completely separate module.
The way proxy works, is that it:
- obtains the IP address to connect to (currently via DNS round robin, 
but a module proxy_loadbalancer might make a more intelligent choice of 
IP address)

- opens a connection to that address (unless a connection is already 
open due to keepalive behaviour, in which case just use that)

- pass control to the backend protocol handler (proxy_http, or 
proxy_ftp, or proxy_ajp)

Load balancing would happen at step one. Such a module would need a way 
to decide load (in the simplest case, by spreading load, in a more 
complex case, by actually asking the backend servers for the loads so to 
make a more intelligent decision). Such a module need not work with 
tomcat only, but with any backend, and any protocol.

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Jess Holle wrote:
One issue here:
When Apache and Tomcat are used together via AJP13:
  1. The host, port, protocol, etc, are exactly that at the Apache
 level, i.e. one's web app sees Apache and Tomcat as 1 
entity.  This is a very good thing overall compared to reverse 
proxying (if
 that's the mod_proxy proposal).
I have no idea how to get around that ;) This seems a showstopper: the 
user will have to read the connector's documentation.
Certainly things function in a reverse proxy environment and so the more 
complex situation is handled.  The issue is that individual developers 
*can* do bad things by assuming that the request protocol is that they 
should use in base tags, etc.

Overall, that would just be life, though and is insufficient reason not 
to leverage mod_proxy.

  2. The body content, query string, etc, are reported to one's web
 application precisely as sent, whereas Tomcat pre-processes them a
 bit more than picky, low-level request parsing code can accept. 
 [Yes, the picky code is *too* picky, but it isn't mine :-)]
I have no idea what your webapp is doing, but it's not portable. All 
the trasformations done respect the HTTP and servlet specifications.
Actually it is rather portable and does not break any spec to the best 
of my knowledge.  It just assumes it can get at the original content 
body stream, request string, etc, as an alternative to getParameter() 
without missing anything.  Why this is the case is a long story.  I also 
miss forget exactly where things fall down, but Apache, iPlanet (with 
embedded servlet engine), and IIS (with Tomcat) all work (except config 
issues with IIS 6...)

This appears to be far removed from most folks' experience, so I guess 
Tomcat's httpd is good enough for most.

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Re: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Jess Holle wrote:
Agreed -- but that won't fix the issue.
So can we fix it in 5.0.x or not?
Possibly, but it's risky.
So you'd recommend that I just patch my own distribution, then?
[Changing getURL() to convert to a URI first worked fine in 4.1.24...]
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RE: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi,
And wait for a 5.1 release, which may not be long in the making.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


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Remy Maucherat wrote:

 Jess Holle wrote:

 Agreed -- but that won't fix the issue.

 So can we fix it in 5.0.x or not?

 Possibly, but it's risky.

So you'd recommend that I just patch my own distribution, then?

[Changing getURL() to convert to a URI first worked fine in 4.1.24...]

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Re: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Jess Holle
Okay, I'll just change getURL() to be identical to getURI() and all 
should be well for me.

Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
And wait for a 5.1 release, which may not be long in the making.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics
 

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Jess Holle wrote:
 

Agreed -- but that won't fix the issue.
So can we fix it in 5.0.x or not?
   

Possibly, but it's risky.
 

So you'd recommend that I just patch my own distribution, then?
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Just a note:

Even though Tomcat 5.0.x's WebappClassLoader has a nice getURI() method, it does
not use it to from its getURLs() method.  This means the bug still exists in
Tomcat 5.0.x.

The Tomcat team seems loathe to rock the boat to address this, which is
*somewhat* understandable.

At this point I only care about use case this working in Java 2 v1.4 and higher
and about not destroying any other functionality under Java 2 v1.3.x via a fix
(e.g. by using a 1.4-specific class directly).

For these constraints the fix in Tomcat 5.0.27 can be as simple as:

  protected URL getURL(File file)
throws MalformedURLException
  {
return jdkCompat.getURI(file);  // same implementation as getURI()
  }

or one could just call getURI(), but I chose to limit calls to getURI() to those
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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Gomez wrote:
Now what about the mod_proxy load-balancing add-on ?
The thing I'm most happy about with the simple load balancing + sticky 
session + failover is that the development would be short (hopefully), 
be bundled with Apache quickly, and could really help people's 
experience with Tomcat :)

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread ARhermitgirl
TAKE ME OFF THIS MAILING LIST IMMEDIATELY... I DID NOT REQUEST THIS AND I DO NOT WANT 
ANOTHER EMAIL FROM JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG
 
Graham Leggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henri Gomez wrote:

 jk was designed a long time ago so may be mod_proxy allready support
 persistant connections.

Persistence will happen on the backend on the condition there was 
persistence on the frontend. Generally the networks between backend and 
frontend are fast enough that connection setup is not a problem - a 
bigger problem is having expensive backend processes hanging around 
attached to a persistent connection that is not being used (assuming 
these connections are held by a tomcat thread of course, which may or 
may not be the case, not sure how tomcat is built internally).

 Great. And if you handle in the proxy_loadbalancing.c
 the JSESSION_ID, (sticky session) to map next requests
 to the tomcat who set it, you'll have everything needed.

Sticky sessions has been on my list of things to support for ages - 
perhaps a proxy_sticky.c module could take a single parameter (the 
name of the parameter and/or cookie) and keep track of which server 
served it.

If you had redundant frontends you might have a mechanism to keep track 
of which server is handling which session stored in a shared mechanism.

A separate module might keep track of which tomcat servers are up or 
down, removing a server from the list of available servers on certain 
events (connection refused, error 4xx, 5xx, whatever).

 Well LDAP could be use for configuration outside a file. JMX/CMX goes a
 bit farther since it let you update some characteristics at runtime.
 
 But I agree that providing a JMX/CMX facade to Apache 2.x modules will
 be a good starting point. Costin will certainly clarify this point with
 you.
 
 In fine the discussed mod_ajp module should detect topology change in a
 second phase to learn for example that a tomcat in a cluster 
 started/stopped a web application, so next requests could be redirected
 to another tomcat in the cluster. Also you should be able to update the
 load factor for each tomcat, may be having a load factor by Webapplication.

In theory this kind of thing should not be limited to tomcat only, but 
to web applications (whether PHP, whatever) in general.

Perhaps a mechanism that allows the backend to connect to the frontend 
and say status has changed, I am offering webapp XXX now, so count me 
into the pool. Or a mechanism for the frontend to poll the 
characteristics of the backend so that it can autolearn what webapp can 
be found where (has the advantage of not requiring a special backend 
module, apart from a magic URL on the backend giving relevant the 
information)

This opens up some interesting possiblities for virtual mappings. 
Something like this:

ProxyPass /myWebapp virtual://myWebbapp (or something)

Where proxy can hand out the request to a backend that has recently said 
hi proxy, I serve myWebapp, feel free to contact me to fulfil a request.

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Re: Invitation to HTTPD commiters in tomcat-dev

2004-07-20 Thread Graham Leggett
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
Using OPTIONS has the advantage of being backwards compatible, if you
send OPTIONS to a plain-old HTTP receiver, the standard ACK can be
taken to mean yep, I'm here. Intelligent backends (read: modify
tomcat and co slightly) can have an X-header or whatever to go
I'm accepting this, this and this, and my current load is this.
This makes sense - you would just need to tell proxy the possible 
servers, and an intelligent load balancer might try find out the current 
status of those servers based on querying options to find out on a 
regular basis.

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Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie

2004-07-20 Thread Bill Barker
I was thinking something like attached.

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 On Jul 20, 2004, at 5:27 AM, Henri Gomez wrote:

  Could you send us you workers.properties ?

 attached.









  If
  you feel like putting more work into this, adding
  'fprintf(stderr,...)'
  statements should go to the Apache error_log.
 
  Where did you want me put fprint ?

 Let us know where you want them and we'll test that code too.

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ROOT.war does not correctly unpack if contains context.xml with a path= attribute

   Summary: ROOT.war does not correctly unpack if contains
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ROOT.war does not correctly unpack if it contains a META-INF\context.xml with a
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Jk2 strips terminating '--' from multipart mime encoded form submits

   Summary: Jk2 strips terminating '--' from multipart mime encoded
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Jk2 appears to not pass on terminating '--' from multipart mime encoded form
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Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie

2004-07-20 Thread Bill Barker
I see that attachments are still getting stripped from the list :).

The problem is yet-another-typo.  The check for a comma cookie-delimiter
ends up re-setting the returned cookie value to NULL, so the lb thinks that
no cookie was sent.  If this attachment comes through, it's the patch for
it.  I'll commit it later (PST), if nobody else wants it.

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 I was thinking something like attached.

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 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 7:04 AM
 Subject: Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie


 
  On Jul 20, 2004, at 5:27 AM, Henri Gomez wrote:
 
   Could you send us you workers.properties ?
 
  attached.
 


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   If
   you feel like putting more work into this, adding
   'fprintf(stderr,...)'
   statements should go to the Apache error_log.
  
   Where did you want me put fprint ?
 
  Let us know where you want them and we'll test that code too.
 
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--- jk_lb_worker.c  Tue Jul 20 12:09:57 2004
***
*** 139,145 
  if((id_end = strchr(id_start, ';')) != NULL) {
  *id_end = '\0';
  }
! if((id_start = strchr(id_start, ',')) != NULL) {
  *id_end = '\0';
  }
  return id_start;
--- 139,145 
  if((id_end = strchr(id_start, ';')) != NULL) {
  *id_end = '\0';
  }
! if((id_end = strchr(id_start, ',')) != NULL) {
  *id_end = '\0';
  }
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Re: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!

2004-07-20 Thread Bill Barker

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Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: WebappClassLoader.getURLs Bug!


Shapira, Yoav wrote:
 Hi,

Unfortunately, now that I've moved to Tomcat 5, I discover that the bug
is still quite present.  There is now a nice getURI() method along with
the previous getURL() method.  Unfortunately, getURLs() does not use
getURI( file ).toURL() or any such as it would need to for the RMI
runtime's sake (as it calls getURLs()).

 The getURI method returns a URL object, not a URI object, as the latter
 is JDK 1.4-only and we still officially support building and running on
 JDK 1.3.

I agree: you really should be complaining about Sun (who wrote the bad
URL handling in the first place).


I agree that Sun's implementation is brain-dead (who thought that
space-separated list of URLs was A Good Idea? :).

I looked at WACL the last time I got bit by this, but then decided that it
was easier to move the app to a directory w/o spaces than to encode the URLs
(e.g. s/ /%20/).

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When I try to restart my webapp using Manager's Stop/Start or Reload, I get 
several stack traces similar to the one listed below. The stack traces are in 
the Tomcat window but not in the log file. The issue is not a show-stopper, but 
it makes it impossible to restart my application.

Jul 20, 2004 1:47:43 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext registerJMX
INFO: Error registering wrapper with jmx StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost
[localhost].StandardContext[/salem] 
Catalina:j2eeType=WebModule,name=//localhost/s
alem,J2EEApplication=none,J2EEServer=none java.security.AccessControlException: 
Access denied (mx4j.server.MBeanTrustPermission register): MBean class org.apach
e.commons.modeler.BaseModelMBean is not trusted for registration
java.security.AccessControlException: Access denied 
(mx4j.server.MBeanTrustPermission register): MBean class 
org.apache.commons.modeler.BaseModelMBean is not trusted for registration
at 
mx4j.server.interceptor.SecurityMBeanServerInterceptor.checkTrustRegistration
(SecurityMBeanServerInterceptor.java:156)
at mx4j.server.interceptor.SecurityMBeanServerInterceptor.registration
(SecurityMBeanServerInterceptor.java:116)
at mx4j.server.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.registration
(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:113)
at mx4j.server.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.registration
(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:113)
at 
mx4j.server.interceptor.ContextClassLoaderMBeanServerInterceptor.registration
(ContextClassLoaderMBeanServerInterceptor.java:108)
at mx4j.server.MBeanServerImpl.registerImpl(MBeanServerImpl.java:1051)
at mx4j.server.MBeanServerImpl.registerMBeanImpl
(MBeanServerImpl.java:1002)
at mx4j.server.MBeanServerImpl.registerMBean(MBeanServerImpl.java:978)
at org.apache.commons.modeler.Registry.registerComponent
(Registry.java:871)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.registerJMX
(StandardContext.java:5339)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start
(StandardContext.java:4357)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.reload
(StandardContext.java:3021)
at org.apache.catalina.manager.ManagerServlet.reload
(ManagerServlet.java:1014)
at org.apache.catalina.manager.ManagerServlet.doGet
(ManagerServlet.java:330)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:697)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
at org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil$1.run
(SecurityUtil.java:241)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at javax.security.auth.Subject.doAsPrivileged(Subject.java:500)
at org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.execute
(SecurityUtil.java:268)
at org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.doAsPrivilege
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at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter
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at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.access$000
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at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke
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at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext
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at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke
(StandardPipeline.java:520)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal
(StandardContextValve.java:198)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke
(StandardContextValve.java:152)
at 

Re: mod_jk 1.2.6 release ? - session tracking cookie

2004-07-20 Thread Sandy McArthur
Bill,
Much thanks!
We've tested the fixed get_cookie back-ported to mod_jk 1.2.5 and it 
works well.

We'll deploy that version into production tonight but I don't expect 
any problems. I'll let y'all know if there is.

Sandy
On Jul 20, 2004, at 3:17 PM, Bill Barker wrote:
I see that attachments are still getting stripped from the list :).
The problem is yet-another-typo.  The check for a comma 
cookie-delimiter
ends up re-setting the returned cookie value to NULL, so the lb thinks 
that
no cookie was sent.  If this attachment comes through, it's the patch 
for
it.  I'll commit it later (PST), if nobody else wants it.


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I should say that this relates to JK2 running with IIS, I havn't actually tried
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-07-20 20:51 ---
I actually removed the configuration regarding the mail session both in web.xml
and context.xml. here goes the web.xml, context.xml and server.xml:

web.xml:

web-app
!--  Omit other config  --
 resource-ref
descriptionDB Connection/description
res-ref-namejdbc/dsapp1/res-ref-name
res-typejavax.sql.DataSource/res-type
res-authContainer/res-auth
/resource-ref
!--resource-ref--
!--descriptionmail/description--
!--res-ref-namemail/Session_send/res-ref-name--
!--res-typejavax.mail.Session/res-type--
!--res-authContainer/res-auth--
!--/resource-ref--

!-- The tomcat role --
security-role
descriptionDefault Role for All Users/description
role-nametomcat/role-name
/security-role
/web-app

context.xml:

Context path=/dsapp1 docBase=dsapp1 debug=99 reloadable=true
Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger 
prefix=dsapp1_log. suffix=.txt timestamp=true/


!-- NOTE: If you want to use a DataSourceRealm, the Resource must be a
   global resource --
Realm className=org.apache.catalina.realm.JDBCRealm debug=99
  driverName=com.mysql.jdbc.Driver
  
connectionURL=jdbc:mysql://localhost/dsapp1?autoReconnect=trueamp;useUnicode=trueamp;characterEncoding=UTF-8
  connectionName=test connectionPassword=test
   userTable=app_user userNameCol=username userCredCol=password
   userRoleTable=user_role roleNameCol=role_name /
Resource name=jdbc/dsapp1 auth=Container type=javax.sql.DataSource/
ResourceParams name=jdbc/dsapp1
parameter
namefactory/name
valueorg.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory/value
/parameter
!-- Maximum number of dB connections in pool. Make sure you
 configure your mysqld max_connections large enough to handle
 all of your db connections. Set to 0 for no limit.
 --
parameter
namemaxActive/name
value100/value
/parameter
!-- Omit other config --
/ResourceParams
!-- This is not working --
!--Resource name=mail/Session auth=Container
type=javax.mail.Session/--
!--ResourceParams name=mail/Session--
!--parameter--
!--namemail.smtp.host/name--
!--valuelocalhost/value--
!--/parameter--
!--/ResourceParams--
/Context

server.xml:

?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?
Server
  Listener className=org.apache.catalina.mbeans.ServerLifecycleListener/
  Listener
className=org.apache.catalina.mbeans.GlobalResourcesLifecycleListener/
  GlobalNamingResources
Environment name=simpleValue type=java.lang.Integer value=30/
Resource auth=Container description=User database that can be updated
and saved name=UserDatabase type=org.apache.catalina.UserDatabase/
Resource name=mail/Session_send type=javax.mail.Session/
ResourceParams name=UserDatabase
  parameter
namefactory/name
valueorg.apache.catalina.users.MemoryUserDatabaseFactory/value
  /parameter
  parameter
namepathname/name
valueconf/tomcat-users.xml/value
  /parameter
/ResourceParams
ResourceParams name=mail/Session_send
  parameter
namemail.smtp.host/name
valuesmtp.host.net/value
  /parameter
/ResourceParams
  /GlobalNamingResources
 Service name=Catalina
Connector acceptCount=100 connectionTimeout=2
disableUploadTimeout=true port=8080 redirectPort=8443
/Connector
Connector port=8009 protocol=AJP/1.3
protocolHandlerClassName=org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler redirectPort=8443
/Connector
Engine defaultHost=localhost name=Catalina
  Host appBase=webapps name=localhost
Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
prefix=localhost_log. suffix=.txt timestamp=true/
  /Host
  Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
prefix=catalina_log. suffix=.txt timestamp=true/
  Realm className=org.apache.catalina.realm.UserDatabaseRealm/
/Engine
  /Service
/Server

thanks for your time

bill

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-07-20 21:05 ---
The original complain was the message No Java compiler was found to compile the
generated source for the JSP. was bogus, but that was not what you got here. 
What you have here is a javac error, which may and may not be correct; but I
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[PATCH] JK and load-balanced POSTs

2004-07-20 Thread Joel Dice
Attached is a patch against JK 1.2.5 to fix handling of POSTs for
load-balanced workers.

The problem it addresses occurs when an endpoint fails while mod_jk is
trying to send it a POST request.  When mod_jk gives up and attempts to
use a different endpoint, the body of the POST is lost.  Since the POST is
not part of the new endpoint's state, mod_jk tries to re-read the data
from the client, but the client has nothing more to say, so the read
returns zero bytes.  This empty post is sent on to the application server,
confusing it.

The patch fixes this problem by attaching the POST data to the request
state (of type jk_ws_service_t) instead of the endpoint state (of type
ajp_endpoint_t).

Feedback is welcome.

 - JoelIndex: jk/native/common/jk_ajp_common.c
===
--- jk/native/common/jk_ajp_common.c(revision 930)
+++ jk/native/common/jk_ajp_common.c(revision 931)
@@ -966,9 +966,9 @@
 jk_log(l, JK_LOG_DEBUG,
ajp_send_request 2: 
request body to send %d - request body to resend %d\n, 
-   ae-left_bytes_to_send, jk_b_get_len(op-reply) - AJP_HEADER_LEN);
+   ae-left_bytes_to_send, jk_b_get_len(op-post) - AJP_HEADER_LEN);
 
-/*
+/* XXX: this comment looks outdated:
  * POST recovery job is done here.
  * It's not very fine to have posted data in reply but that's the only easy
  * way to do that for now. Sharing the reply is really a bad solution but
@@ -1217,9 +1217,18 @@
 jk_b_set_buffer_size(op-reply, DEF_BUFFER_SZ);
 jk_b_reset(op-reply); 
 
-op-post = jk_b_new((p-pool));
-jk_b_set_buffer_size(op-post, DEF_BUFFER_SZ);
-jk_b_reset(op-post); 
+   if (s-post == NULL) {
+ s-post = jk_b_new(s-pool);
+ if (s-post == NULL) {
+   jk_log(l, JK_LOG_ERROR, ERROR: unable to allocate POST buffer);
+*is_recoverable_error = JK_FALSE;
+return JK_FALSE;
+ }
+ jk_b_set_buffer_size(s-post, DEF_BUFFER_SZ);
+ jk_b_reset(s-post);
+   }
+
+   op-post = s-post;
 
 op-recoverable = JK_TRUE;
 op-uploadfd = -1;  /* not yet used, later ;) */
Index: jk/native/common/jk_service.h
===
--- jk/native/common/jk_service.h   (revision 930)
+++ jk/native/common/jk_service.h   (revision 931)
@@ -72,6 +72,7 @@
 #include jk_map.h
 #include jk_global.h
 #include jk_logger.h
+#include jk_msg_buff.h
 #include jk_pool.h
 #include jk_uri_worker_map.h
 
@@ -235,8 +236,14 @@
a version that doesn't support secret - don't set the secret,
and it'll work.
  */
-char*secret;
+char*secret;
+
 /*
+ * The body of the POST, if any.
+ */
+jk_msg_buf_t *post;
+
+/*
  * Callbacks into the web server.  For each, the first argument is
  * essentially a 'this' pointer.  All return JK_TRUE on success
  * and JK_FALSE on failure.
Index: jk/native/common/jk_util.c
===
--- jk/native/common/jk_util.c  (revision 930)
+++ jk/native/common/jk_util.c  (revision 931)
@@ -926,4 +926,5 @@
 s-attributes_values= NULL;
 s-num_attributes   = 0;
 s-jvm_route= NULL;
+s-post = NULL;
 }
Index: jk/native/common/jk_msg_buff.h
===
--- jk/native/common/jk_msg_buff.h  (revision 930)
+++ jk/native/common/jk_msg_buff.h  (revision 931)
@@ -65,6 +65,7 @@
 #ifndef JK_MSG_BUF_H
 #define JK_MSG_BUF_H
 
+#include jk_pool.h
 
 #ifdef __cplusplus
 extern C {
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-07-20 21:52 ---
Problem found: form-login-config was missing from the login-config

Should Tomcat have caught this?

Remy, I'm not trying to get cross with you but your comment came across as
insulting.
I am new to J2EE development and no I did not download the Tomcat source code.
Instead I investigated as much as I could find (google searchs, mailing list
archive, posting on mailing list, etc.) before I posted a possible bug here.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-07-20 22:02 ---
Filing an issue should be a last resort move (otherwise, it's wasted time for
everyone, so I'm never happy about it). I expect you would have quickly looked
in the source, this is an obvious move to me when I get a NPE (and generally any
exception which doesn't seem wrapped).

Did you enable XML validation for your test ? By default, validation is
disabled, so there can be mandatory elements missing.

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cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/native/common jk_lb_worker.c

2004-07-20 Thread billbarker
billbarker2004/07/20 19:18:46

  Modified:jk/native/common jk_lb_worker.c
  Log:
  Fix nasty typo that was killing the cookie.
  
  Reported By: Sandy McArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.22  +2 -2  jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/native/common/jk_lb_worker.c
  
  Index: jk_lb_worker.c
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/native/common/jk_lb_worker.c,v
  retrieving revision 1.21
  retrieving revision 1.22
  diff -u -r1.21 -r1.22
  --- jk_lb_worker.c20 Jul 2004 14:56:40 -  1.21
  +++ jk_lb_worker.c21 Jul 2004 02:18:46 -  1.22
  @@ -139,7 +139,7 @@
   if((id_end = strchr(id_start, ';')) != NULL) {
   *id_end = '\0';
   }
  -if((id_start = strchr(id_start, ',')) != NULL) {
  +if((id_end = strchr(id_start, ',')) != NULL) {
   *id_end = '\0';
   }
   return id_start;
  
  
  

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Re: port number at runtime

2004-07-20 Thread saugata ghosh
request.getServerPort()
-Thanks, but this returns the port number of the
current request port.
But my problem is, say the request is for http: and I
want to redirect to https:/.../somefile.jsp. - then ?
Basically what is required is a method that will
return the port number set in the conf/server.xml
file.

-Saugata

--- Günter_Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
  It will be very usefull if the port number on
 which
  the SSL and Http non-ssl ports are running, is
  available runtime. (Ex:- 8080 and 8443).
  Is it possible?
 
  The int getPort() method of the CoyoteConnector
  class returns the port number but its not
 accessible
  at runtime. If there is a sendRedirect() method
 in
  some jsp, where one wants to redirect from http to
 say
  https, then the port number must be known in
 advance.
  So there is a need for such an API.
 request.getServerPort()
 
 see the jsp snoop example.
 
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Re: port number at runtime

2004-07-20 Thread Rick Knowles
Having this as a requirement makes an awful lot of assumptions about the 
architecture of the container, none of which are helpful in the larger 
scale. For example, what if you have 2 (or 50) http connectors and the 
same for https ? And then what about ajp13 ? Or mod_caucho's protocol (I 
think it's called hessian) ? The reason this is not in the servlet api 
spec is because it would create more problems than it would solve.

There are some cases where you just need to know what your deployment 
environment is going to be ... this is one of them.

Rick
saugata ghosh wrote:
request.getServerPort()
-Thanks, but this returns the port number of the
current request port.
But my problem is, say the request is for http: and I
want to redirect to https:/.../somefile.jsp. - then ?
Basically what is required is a method that will
return the port number set in the conf/server.xml
file.
-Saugata
 

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-07-21 04:31 ---
Created an attachment (id=12178)
The re-written patch to fix this problem in ErrorReportValve.

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Re: port number at runtime

2004-07-20 Thread saugata ghosh
Thanks. Completely agreed with the arguments for not
having the API. 

Right now we put the port numbers in our own projects
property file also, apart from server.xml. May be
thats the way to do it.

-Saugata

--- Rick Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Having this as a requirement makes an awful lot of
 assumptions about the 
 architecture of the container, none of which are
 helpful in the larger 
 scale. For example, what if you have 2 (or 50) http
 connectors and the 
 same for https ? And then what about ajp13 ? Or
 mod_caucho's protocol (I 
 think it's called hessian) ? The reason this is not
 in the servlet api 
 spec is because it would create more problems than
 it would solve.
 
 There are some cases where you just need to know
 what your deployment 
 environment is going to be ... this is one of them.
 
 Rick
 
 saugata ghosh wrote:
 
 request.getServerPort()
 -Thanks, but this returns the port number of the
 current request port.
 But my problem is, say the request is for http: and
 I
 want to redirect to https:/.../somefile.jsp. - then
 ?
 Basically what is required is a method that will
 return the port number set in the conf/server.xml
 file.
 
 -Saugata
   
 
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 Servlet v2.4 container in a single 140KB jar file ?
 Try Winstone
 (http://winstone.sourceforge.net)
 
 

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resource-ref not properly parsed

   Summary: resource-ref not properly parsed
   Product: Tomcat 4
   Version: 4.1.30
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: Windows XP
Status: NEW
  Severity: Blocker
  Priority: Other
 Component: Servlet  JSP API
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When a corresponding resource is not defined in a server.xml, the following 
web.xml segment:

web-app
  resource-ref
res-ref-namejdbc/test/res-ref-name
res-typejavax.sql.DataSource/res-type
res-authContainer/res-auth
  /resource-ref
 ...
/web-app

Generates the following SAX parser error:

Jul 20, 2004 9:58:55 PM org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol init INFO: 
Initializing Coyote HTTP/1.1 on port 8080 Starting service Tomcat-Standalone 
Apache Tomcat/4.1.30 Jul 20, 2004 9:58:57 PM 
org.apache.commons.digester.Digester error SEVERE: Parse Error at line 72 
column 11: The content of element type web-app must match (icon?,display-
name?,description?,distributable?,context-param*,filter*,filter-
mapping*,listener*,servlet*,servlet-mapping*,session-config?,mime-
mapping*,welcome-file-list?,error-page*,taglib*,resource-env-ref*,resource-
ref*,security-constraint*,login-config?,security-role*,env-entry*,ejb-ref*,ejb-
local-ref*). org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: The content of element type web-
app must match (icon?,display-name?,description?,distributable?,context-
param*,filter*,filter-mapping*,listener*,servlet*,servlet-mapping*,session-
config?,mime-mapping*,welcome-file-list?,error-page*,taglib*,resource-env-
ref*,resource-ref*,security-constraint*,login-config?,security-role*,env-
entry*,ejb-ref*,ejb-local-ref*).  at 
org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.createSAXParseException(Unknown 
Source)  at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.error(Unknown Source)  
at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown Source)  at 
org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown Source)  at 
org.apache.xerces.impl.dtd.XMLDTDValidator.handleEndElement(Unknown Source)  
at org.apache.xerces.impl.dtd.XMLDTDValidator.endElement(Unknown Source)  at 
org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLDocumentFragmentScannerImpl.scanEndElement(Unknown 
Source)  at ...

This is a blocker for the following use case: You create a .war containing a 
servlet which first attempts to locate a DataSource. If a DataSource is not 
found (null returned), then the servlet uses a jdbc URL, username, and 
password specified via servlet init parameters to attempt a default 
DriverManager connection. Because the parse fails on the last line (the /web-
app element), all the init parameters are read as null -- that is, opening 
via a default jdbc URL also fails.

This bug makes it virtually impossible to create a commercial .war that can 
run on any app server. Instead one has to eliminate the resource-ref, have 
the customer unpack the .war and edit the web.xml with appropriate URL, etc. 
for their computer.

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