RE: Over-aged Newbie needs some help
-Original Message- From: Michele Emmi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help But if he is an over-aged newbie he might prefer book over reading off a computer screengod knows this cough over-aged newbie does! I am reading: Apache Jarkart-Tomcat by Goodwill Sun one programming by Mogha and Bhargava I have been reading Core Servlets which is a free book online (I download and print the PDFs) at http://pdf.coreservlets.com/. It's a pretty good book. There is another book that I was considering taking a look at and I wonder if anyone could share their thoughts on it -- a New Riders book called Java for the Web with Servlets, JSP, and EJB: A Developer's Guide to J2EE Solutions by Budi Kurniawan http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/073571195X/qid=1038241284. It looks good, and more up to date than Core Servlets. The reviews say there are code errors, but since I feel somewhat comfortable with JSP/servlets I hope that this won't be too much of an obstacle Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Over-aged Newbie needs some help
Have a look for this book (bought it from Amazon, 65 or $60): Professional JSP, 2nd Edition (Simon Brown others), Wrox Press, August 2002 ISBN 1-861004-95-8 Of course it's a little bit huge with 1200 pages, but definitely the last book you'll buy about JSP and servlets... Until next JSP and servlet specs, I guess ;-) mech -Original Message- From: Steve R Burrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sonntag, 24. November 2002 01:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Over-aged Newbie needs some help Hi, I need some degree of help/assistance from someone re. just how exactly you go about starting to build or create JSP's or Servlets in the Tomcat container!!! Do you first establish a context or something??! And, then if that's the case, where do you go from there anyway? Incidentally, I am still basking in the afterglow of just being able to install Tomcat!!! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help
mech writes: Have a look for this book (bought it from Amazon, 65 or $60): Professional JSP, 2nd Edition (Simon Brown others), Wrox Press, August 2002 ISBN 1-861004-95-8 Of course it's a little bit huge with 1200 pages, but definitely the last book you'll buy about JSP and servlets... Until next JSP and servlet specs, I guess ;-) mech -Original Message- From: Steve R Burrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sonntag, 24. November 2002 01:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Over-aged Newbie needs some help Hi, I need some degree of help/assistance from someone re. just how exactly you go about starting to build or create JSP's or Servlets in the Tomcat container!!! Do you first establish a context or something??! And, then if that's the case, where do you go from there anyway? Incidentally, I am still basking in the afterglow of just being able to install Tomcat!!! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, jsp and servlet books 4 fine but if u r a newbie as u say here u need to: 1) begin to supply better info. on some ml's you'll get yelled at for this transgresssion. example: a) TOMCAT VERSION b) JDK VERSION c) OS, TYPE and VERSION d) ENVIRONMENT e) PLATFORM (hardware etc.) f) NETWORK (routable, non-routable, public, private, firewall's, proxies, etc.) 2) if u downloaded the jakarta-tomacat-x.y.z-src then when u unzip or unjar u will find all the docs and example demos u can handle 4 some time to come. 3) run the http://localhost:8080 first b4 u try to do more. use the accompanied ant builds w/ the demos. if u don't know ant, go back to apache.org and get it... read the docs... learn how to use it. don't expect the ml's to answer all the questions. most of the people that know ur situation probably won't answer ur question(s). hope this helps, david. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help
hi Michele, this is the over-aged Newbie!!! I like the way that you put things, incidentally! I was just wondering if anyone could sort of start to point me in the right/correct direction when it comes to creating JSP's and Servlets in the Tomcat container!! That's all that I am asking for, frankly!! Do I possibly have to create some kind of a context or just what exactly do I have to do?? And also, I might throw in this pertinent question: How do I see a JSP/Servlet using the Visual Cafe application ? * On Sat 11/23, Michele Emmi wrote:From: Michele Emmi [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:26:58 -0500Subject: Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some helpBut if he is an over-aged newbie he might prefer book over reading off a computer screengod knows this over-aged newbie does! I am reading: Apache Jarkart-Tomcat by Goodwill Sun one programming by Mogha and Bhargava Michele From: Craig R. McClanahan Reply-To: Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:20:05 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Steve R Burrus wrote: Hi, I need some degree of help/assistance from someone re. just how exactly you go about starting to build or create JSP's or Servlets in the Tomcat container!!! Do you first establish a context or something??! And, then if that's the case, where do you go from there anyway? Incidentally, I am still basking in the afterglow of just being able to install Tomcat!!! One useful starting point is packaged with Tomcat itself -- the Application Developer's Guide. If you've installed a default Tomcat, it will be available at: http://localhost:8080/tomcat-docs/appdev/ or online at: http://jakarta.apache.org:8080/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/ For more background on servlet and JSP concepts and development, I recommend the Java Web Services Tutorial, which has many chapters on the web technologies that Tomcat implements: http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.0/tutorial/index.html Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help
I'm probably more over-aged and no doubt underemployed than you. 1. The best thing to read are the developer docs http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/index.html and they may also be found in your webapps. 2. The ANT script will with a little bit of work automagicly compile and copy your apps in the appropriate format. Any overage newbie who could figure out a SysAbend S 0c1, code in assembler, or work a keypunch, will be able to read these most Excellent docs and produce an app. 3. A couple of tricky areas that I encountered: a. In tomcat 4.1.12 they changed the defaults associated with servlets for security reasons. See the last para of the readme for the gory stuff. b. If you copy a WAR file which is sortof a WebApplication Jar file into webapps dir, when tomcat starts up it will unpack the war and create your appdir and deploy it. Before installing a new war, you should delete the appdir associated with the war. so for newbie.war make sure there is not a webapp/newbie when you start tomcat. c. you can also take build a webapp/newbie app with the appropriate structure and avoid the war. 4. Now this is a quickie for an oldie. The serious student will pick up copies of Hunter, Java Servlet Programming(O'Reilly), Hall,MoreServlets(Addison-Wesley) , Bergsten, JSPs(Oreilly) after he has read the docs aforementioned. Those docs will get you your Helloworld without having to complain that Tomcat is messing with your mind. Enjoy. It's a lot more fun than COBOL. At 01:53 PM 11/24/02, you wrote: hi Michele, this is the over-aged Newbie!!! I like the way that you put things, incidentally! I was just wondering if anyone could sort of start to point me in the right/correct direction when it comes to creating JSP's and Servlets in the Tomcat container!! That's all that I am asking for, frankly!! Do I possibly have to create some kind of a context or just what exactly do I have to do?? And also, I might throw in this pertinent question: How do I see a JSP/Servlet using the Visual Cafe application ? * On Sat 11/23, Michele Emmi wrote:From: Michele Emmi [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:26:58 -0500Subject: Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some helpBut if he is an over-aged newbie he might prefer book over reading off a computer screengod knows this over-aged newbie does! I am reading: Apache Jarkart-Tomcat by Goodwill Sun one programming by Mogha and Bhargava Michele From: Craig R. McClanahan Reply-To: Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:20:05 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Steve R Burrus wrote: Hi, I need some degree of help/assistance from someone re. just how exactly you go about starting to build or create JSP's or Servlets in the Tomcat container!!! Do you first establish a context or something??! And, then if that's the case, where do you go from there anyway? Incidentally, I am still basking in the afterglow of just being able to install Tomcat!!! One useful starting point is packaged with Tomcat itself -- the Application Developer's Guide. If you've installed a default Tomcat, it will be available at: http://localhost:8080/tomcat-docs/appdev/ or online at: http://jakarta.apache.org:8080/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/ For more background on servlet and JSP concepts and development, I recommend the Java Web Services Tutorial, which has many chapters on the web technologies that Tomcat implements: http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.0/tutorial/index.html Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help
Hi paul. I am most interested in the part of the whole process that dictates that a WAR file be deployed!!! Now, would u please tell me just how exactly I package up this WAR, and then when I am thru with doing that to which folder/directory do I deploy it to?! Agh!!! Too damned many questions, and too few answers, so far!! :) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Over-aged Newbie needs some help
Mate, Read some books/tutorials all your answers are in there. You see you've asked your questions but you haven't acted on any of the answers provided, if you had, you wouldn't be asking the below questions. Now help your-self before we decide to ignore you. Somone who asks and asks but never helps themselves will be ignored, period, fact of life. Nicholas Orr -Original Message- From: Steve R Burrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 3:19 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help Hi paul. I am most interested in the part of the whole process that dictates that a WAR file be deployed!!! Now, would u please tell me just how exactly I package up this WAR, and then when I am thru with doing that to which folder/directory do I deploy it to?! Agh!!! Too damned many questions, and too few answers, so far!! :) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Try working through some of the tutorials at java.sun.com. Here's a link to the main tutorials page: http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/ and a link to the Java Web Services tutorial specifically: http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.0/tutorial/index.html Jason -Original Message- From: Steve R Burrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Over-aged Newbie needs some help Hi, I need some degree of help/assistance from someone re. just how exactly you go about starting to build or create JSP's or Servlets in the Tomcat container!!! snipped -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Steve R Burrus wrote: Hi, I need some degree of help/assistance from someone re. just how exactly you go about starting to build or create JSP's or Servlets in the Tomcat container!!! Do you first establish a context or something??! And, then if that's the case, where do you go from there anyway? Incidentally, I am still basking in the afterglow of just being able to install Tomcat!!! One useful starting point is packaged with Tomcat itself -- the Application Developer's Guide. If you've installed a default Tomcat, it will be available at: http://localhost:8080/tomcat-docs/appdev/ or online at: http://jakarta.apache.org:8080/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/ For more background on servlet and JSP concepts and development, I recommend the Java Web Services Tutorial, which has many chapters on the web technologies that Tomcat implements: http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.0/tutorial/index.html Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But if he is an over-aged newbie he might prefer book over reading off a computer screengod knows this cough over-aged newbie does! I am reading: Apache Jarkart-Tomcat by Goodwill Sun one programming by Mogha and Bhargava Michele From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Over-aged Newbie needs some help Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:20:05 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Steve R Burrus wrote: Hi, I need some degree of help/assistance from someone re. just how exactly you go about starting to build or create JSP's or Servlets in the Tomcat container!!! Do you first establish a context or something??! And, then if that's the case, where do you go from there anyway? Incidentally, I am still basking in the afterglow of just being able to install Tomcat!!! One useful starting point is packaged with Tomcat itself -- the Application Developer's Guide. If you've installed a default Tomcat, it will be available at: http://localhost:8080/tomcat-docs/appdev/ or online at: http://jakarta.apache.org:8080/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/ For more background on servlet and JSP concepts and development, I recommend the Java Web Services Tutorial, which has many chapters on the web technologies that Tomcat implements: http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.0/tutorial/index.html Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't know if this is helpful, but I do have to say that the documentation in jakarta generally is excellent, and that is especially so in tomcat and struts. At 04:20 PM 11/23/2002 -0800, you wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Steve R Burrus wrote: Hi, I need some degree of help/assistance from someone re. just how exactly you go about starting to build or create JSP's or Servlets in the Tomcat container!!! Do you first establish a context or something??! And, then if that's the case, where do you go from there anyway? Incidentally, I am still basking in the afterglow of just being able to install Tomcat!!! One useful starting point is packaged with Tomcat itself -- the Application Developer's Guide. If you've installed a default Tomcat, it will be available at: http://localhost:8080/tomcat-docs/appdev/ or online at: http://jakarta.apache.org:8080/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/ For more background on servlet and JSP concepts and development, I recommend the Java Web Services Tutorial, which has many chapters on the web technologies that Tomcat implements: http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.0/tutorial/index.html Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
