[TriLUG] Hardware Question: 2.5 IDE Drive Connection

2007-02-20 Thread Scott Chilcote

Hi Folks,

I have a piece of equipment that has an internal 2.5 IDE drive 
(notebook size).  It would be very useful to have an LED that shows 
drive activity, and there is a place on the cabinet for one.


Has anyone seen a wiring diagram or a cable sold anywhere that would let 
me attach an activity LED to a drive this size?


Thanks,

Scott C.
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Re: [TriLUG] Hardware Question: 2.5 IDE Drive Connection

2007-02-20 Thread William Sutton
Just out of curiosity...is there anything you *don't* know?

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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Aaron S. Joyner wrote:

 Scott Chilcote wrote:
  Hi Folks,
  
  I have a piece of equipment that has an internal 2.5 IDE drive
  (notebook size).  It would be very useful to have an LED that shows
  drive activity, and there is a place on the cabinet for one.
  
  Has anyone seen a wiring diagram or a cable sold anywhere that would let
  me attach an activity LED to a drive this size?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Scott C.
 
 So I don't know what your application is, if it's a PC or what.  You say
 notebook size, which leads me to believe it's not a notebook...
 
 Typically there is a pair of pins on the motherboard that provide
 something that might be called an IDE Activity light, which you can
 hook up a standard 0.100 centered jumper pin to, with an LED on it.
 These could be scavenged from most any old PC case, or also assembled
 from parts via Mouser or Digikey.  It'd be better to just ask around
 before the next meeting, surely someone on this list can cannibalize an
 old case and give you an appropriate LED and cable.
 
 If on the other hand, you don't have a motherboard involved, and want an
 answer to your actual question...
 
 General consensus from some Googling around seems to indicate that on a
 standard 40-pin IDE connection, it's pin 39.  The extra 4 pins on a 2.5
 hard drive are for power and I think a master/slave setting, so they
 shouldn't matter for purposes of this discussion.  If you're comfortable
 with a soldering iron inside the case in question, tapping into the pin
 shouldn't be too hard.  This diagram will probably get you started:
 
 http://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/ide/ide-sch.gif
 
 It's part of this article about using an IDE hard drive with an 8051 chip;
 http://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/ide/
 
 Note the 470 Ohm resistor in series with the LED.  Note: according to
 the diagram the pin sinks current, as opposed to sourcing it, as I would
 have sort of expected.
 
 Best of luck, let us know how it turns out!
 Aaron S. Joyner
 
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Re: [TriLUG] Hardware Question: 2.5 IDE Drive Connection

2007-02-20 Thread Chris Knowles
OK, I think that the Aaron we know and love was killed and replaced by a
Google based AI.

I mean, when was the last time you saw him in person?  

Using their cache of his (presumed) gmail account as well as his posts
here, the AI is able to accurately imitate his style and general
interests.

The only problem is that it's getting too ambitious.

CJK

On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:10 -0500, William Sutton wrote:
 Just out of curiosity...is there anything you *don't* know?
 
 -- 
 William Sutton
 
 
 On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Aaron S. Joyner wrote:
 
  Scott Chilcote wrote:
   Hi Folks,
   
   I have a piece of equipment that has an internal 2.5 IDE drive
   (notebook size).  It would be very useful to have an LED that shows
   drive activity, and there is a place on the cabinet for one.
   
   Has anyone seen a wiring diagram or a cable sold anywhere that would let
   me attach an activity LED to a drive this size?
   
   Thanks,
   
   Scott C.
  
  So I don't know what your application is, if it's a PC or what.  You say
  notebook size, which leads me to believe it's not a notebook...
  
  Typically there is a pair of pins on the motherboard that provide
  something that might be called an IDE Activity light, which you can
  hook up a standard 0.100 centered jumper pin to, with an LED on it.
  These could be scavenged from most any old PC case, or also assembled
  from parts via Mouser or Digikey.  It'd be better to just ask around
  before the next meeting, surely someone on this list can cannibalize an
  old case and give you an appropriate LED and cable.
  
  If on the other hand, you don't have a motherboard involved, and want an
  answer to your actual question...
  
  General consensus from some Googling around seems to indicate that on a
  standard 40-pin IDE connection, it's pin 39.  The extra 4 pins on a 2.5
  hard drive are for power and I think a master/slave setting, so they
  shouldn't matter for purposes of this discussion.  If you're comfortable
  with a soldering iron inside the case in question, tapping into the pin
  shouldn't be too hard.  This diagram will probably get you started:
  
  http://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/ide/ide-sch.gif
  
  It's part of this article about using an IDE hard drive with an 8051 chip;
  http://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/ide/
  
  Note the 470 Ohm resistor in series with the LED.  Note: according to
  the diagram the pin sinks current, as opposed to sourcing it, as I would
  have sort of expected.
  
  Best of luck, let us know how it turns out!
  Aaron S. Joyner
  


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Re: [TriLUG] Hardware Question: 2.5 IDE Drive Connection

2007-02-20 Thread Magnus

William Sutton wrote:

Just out of curiosity...is there anything you *don't* know?


Well like he said from some Googling around.  I mean, the guy has like 
a 0 latency connection to the MCP.  He's really plugged in.  He's a real 
hoopy frood, ya know.

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Re: [TriLUG] Hardware Question: 2.5 IDE Drive Connection

2007-02-20 Thread burnett

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Chris Knowles wrote:


OK, I think that the Aaron we know and love was killed and replaced by a
Google based AI.

I mean, when was the last time you saw him in person?

Using their cache of his (presumed) gmail account as well as his posts
here, the AI is able to accurately imitate his style and general
interests.

The only problem is that it's getting too ambitious.

CJK


Chris:

I advise you to get someone else to do the upcoming spacewalk to repair 
the communications dish. I think HA/L/e can hear you.


best,
Steve B / Badger
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Re: [TriLUG] Hardware Question: 2.5 IDE Drive Connection

2007-02-20 Thread Jason Faulkner

I mean, when was the last time you saw him in person?



Hate to bust on your conspiracy theory, but  I've seen him 4 times
already this year :P
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Re: [TriLUG] Hardware Question: 2.5 IDE Drive Connection

2007-02-20 Thread John Mitchell

On 2/20/07, Jason Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I mean, when was the last time you saw him in person?


Hate to bust on your conspiracy theory, but  I've seen him 4 times
already this year :P
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  But, when was the last time anyone saw JasonF ?

johnm
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Re: [TriLUG] Hardware Question: 2.5 IDE Drive Connection

2007-02-20 Thread Magnus

John Mitchell wrote:

  But, when was the last time anyone saw JasonF ?


He's been stuck in his cube since they walled him in last week.[0]

0 - 
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/cool_office_prank_or_thinking_inside_the_box

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