Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ

2004-04-30 Thread Lance Muir



You've come to see the impact that this man has on 
some of us.Please submit your reflections on this book. Issues involving 
text and interpretation could then be addressed as well as the nature, 
distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought. 
I for one would not like to see Bill Taylor 
leave TT. This conversation would certainly "cause" him to stay 
around.
If you've not finished it then, we'll all begin at 
the beginning and work our way through ittogether.
Blessings, Lance


Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ

2004-04-30 Thread Terry Clifton




Lance Muir wrote:

  
  
  
  You've come to see the impact that
this man has on some of us.Please submit your reflections on this
book. Issues involving text and interpretation could then be addressed
as well as the nature, distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought.
  
  I for one would not like to see
Bill Taylor leave TT. This conversation would certainly "cause" him to
stay around.
  If you've not finished it then,
we'll all begin at the beginning and work our way through ittogether.
  Blessings, Lance

===
Sorry Lance, but I have no desire to read or study this book. Having
your ideas printed out does not, in my opinion, make one an authority
any more than being the Pope makes you perfect.
I doubt that Bill would stay around just to join a book club anyway.
He seems to get his feathers ruffled too easily when people question
the things he says, and I guarantee you people on here are going to
question everything said by everyone. This has been for me a great
place to learn, but for one who wants to be accepted as a teacher, my
advice is too put on your shin guards and pucker up, 'cause you are
going to get kicked on a regular basis. You can't hang with this bunch
without taking your licks. How in the world can you be kind to people
like Chris and Daniel? If they were just loud and ignorant, that would
be one thing, but these people are influencing others, even little
children. Same with the Mormons. Nice guys. Probably would make
great neighbors, but they are confused enough about God to spend
eternity in Hell. Maybe, just maybe, Bill could say something some day
that would cause any of these guys to see the light if he hung around
and swallowed his pride.

If he doesn't teach them a thing, I am sure that in the process. all of
us would be strengthened in what we believe. Lord knows that I am
woefully ignorant in many areas and could learn much from anyone on
this list on how to or how not to (fill in the blank), but just because
someone says something, I am not going to accept it without
discussion. That is why I don't pay a lot of attention to preachers or
authors, or those who aren't eager to say why they think what they
think. So if Bill would be willing to stay around for our benefit,
that would be great, but if we all have to change to accomodate his
mild paranoia, then it is probably better that he go.
Blessings,
Terry




RE: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ

2004-04-30 Thread ShieldsFamily








I guess I missed itis Bill
threatening to leave us now? Why? Izzy











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:54
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] David
Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ





Lance Muir wrote:





You've come to see the impact that this man has on
some of us.Please submit your reflections on this book. Issues involving
text and interpretation could then be addressed as well as the nature,
distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought. 





I for one would not like to see Bill Taylor
leave TT. This conversation would certainly cause him to stay
around.





If you've not finished it then, we'll all begin at
the beginning and work our way through ittogether.





Blessings, Lance



===
Sorry Lance, but I have no desire to read or study this book. Having your
ideas printed out does not, in my opinion, make one an authority any more than
being the Pope makes you perfect.
I doubt that Bill would stay around just to join a book club anyway. He
seems to get his feathers ruffled too easily when people question the things he
says, and I guarantee you people on here are going to question everything said
by everyone. This has been for me a great place to learn, but for one who
wants to be accepted as a teacher, my advice is too put on your shin
guards and pucker up, 'cause you are going to get kicked on a regular
basis. You can't hang with this bunch without taking your licks.
How in the world can you be kind to people like Chris and Daniel? If they
were just loud and ignorant, that would be one thing, but these people are
influencing others, even little children. Same with the Mormons.
Nice guys. Probably would make great neighbors, but they are confused
enough about God to spend eternity in Hell. Maybe, just maybe, Bill
could say something some day that would cause any of these guys to see the
light if he hung around and swallowed his pride.

If he doesn't teach them a thing, I am sure that in the process. all of us
would be strengthened in what we believe. Lord knows that I am woefully
ignorant in many areas and could learn much from anyone on this list on how to
or how not to (fill in the blank), but just because someone says something, I
am not going to accept it without discussion. That is why I don't pay a
lot of attention to preachers or authors, or those who aren't eager to say why
they think what they think. So if Bill would be willing to stay around
for our benefit, that would be great, but if we all have to change to
accomodate his mild paranoia, then it is probably better that he go.
Blessings,
Terry








Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ

2004-04-30 Thread Knpraise


Apparently I have missed something in the last few hours -- don't know how -- but I am concerned. Bill Taylor leaving the group??? Someone include the post I missed (from him ?). It is 6:20 am here -- I will hold off leaving this morning --- hopefully someone will fill me in.

John



In a message dated 4/30/2004 2:39:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


You've come to see the impact that this man has on some of us. Please submit your reflections on this book. Issues involving text and interpretation could then be addressed as well as the nature, distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought. 
I for one would not like to see Bill Taylor leave TT. This conversation would certainly "cause" him to stay around.
 If you've not finished it then, we'll all begin at the beginning and work our way through it together.
 Blessings, Lance




Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ

2004-04-30 Thread Lance Muir



Terry: 'twas not a post for you, sorry. I should 
have sent it privately to David. I also unwittingly violated a private post from 
Bill. Glad to know that you count yourself among the species that eat their own. 
The level of acrimony on TT does not rise above that which I encounter in our 
store however. My shin guards affixed I await more of TC. Blessings, 
lance

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terry Clifton 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: April 30, 2004 08:54
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on 
  TFTorrance's"The Mediation of Christ"
  Lance Muir wrote:
  



You've come to see the impact that this man has 
on some of us.Please submit your reflections on this book. Issues 
involving text and interpretation could then be addressed as well as the 
nature, distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought. 
I for one would not like to see Bill 
Taylor leave TT. This conversation would certainly "cause" him to stay 
around.
If you've not finished it then, we'll all begin 
at the beginning and work our way through ittogether.
Blessings, 
  Lance===Sorry 
  Lance, but I have no desire to read or study this book. Having your 
  ideas printed out does not, in my opinion, make one an authority any more than 
  being the Pope makes you perfect.I doubt that Bill would stay around just 
  to join a book club anyway. He seems to get his feathers ruffled too 
  easily when people question the things he says, and I guarantee you people on 
  here are going to question everything said by everyone. This has been 
  for me a great place to learn, but for one who wants to be accepted as a 
  teacher, my advice is too put on your shin guards and pucker up, 'cause 
  you are going to get kicked on a regular basis. You can't hang with this 
  bunch without taking your licks. How in the world can you be kind to 
  people like Chris and Daniel? If they were just loud and ignorant, that 
  would be one thing, but these people are influencing others, even little 
  children. Same with the Mormons. Nice guys. Probably would 
  make great neighbors, but they are confused enough about God to spend 
  eternity in Hell. Maybe, just maybe, Bill could say something some day 
  that would cause any of these guys to see the light if he hung around and 
  swallowed his pride.If he doesn't teach them a thing, I am sure that 
  in the process. all of us would be strengthened in what we believe. Lord 
  knows that I am woefully ignorant in many areas and could learn much from 
  anyone on this list on how to or how not to (fill in the blank), but just 
  because someone says something, I am not going to accept it without 
  discussion. That is why I don't pay a lot of attention to preachers or 
  authors, or those who aren't eager to say why they think what they 
  think. So if Bill would be willing to stay around for our benefit, that 
  would be great, but if we all have to change to accomodate his mild paranoia, 
  then it is probably better that he 
go.Blessings,Terry


Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ

2004-04-30 Thread Terry Clifton




Dorry Lance. I did not know this was personal. Just wanted to point
out that when iron sharpens iron, you have to expect sparks.
Terry


Lance Muir wrote:

  
  
  
  Terry: 'twas not a post for you,
sorry. I should have sent it privately to David. I also unwittingly
violated a private post from Bill. Glad to know that you count yourself
among the species that eat their own. The level of acrimony on TT does
not rise above that which I encounter in our store however. My shin
guards affixed I await more of TC. Blessings, lance
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Terry
Clifton 
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:
April 30, 2004 08:54
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance's"The Mediation of Christ"


Lance Muir wrote:

  
  
  You've come to see the impact
that this man has on some of us.Please submit your reflections on this
book. Issues involving text and interpretation could then be addressed
as well as the nature, distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought.
  
  I for one would not like to see
Bill Taylor leave TT. This conversation would certainly "cause" him to
stay around.
  If you've not finished it then,
we'll all begin at the beginning and work our way through ittogether.
  Blessings, Lance

===
Sorry Lance, but I have no desire to read or study this book. Having
your ideas printed out does not, in my opinion, make one an authority
any more than being the Pope makes you perfect.
I doubt that Bill would stay around just to join a book club anyway.
He seems to get his feathers ruffled too easily when people question
the things he says, and I guarantee you people on here are going to
question everything said by everyone. This has been for me a great
place to learn, but for one who wants to be accepted as a teacher, my
advice is too put on your shin guards and pucker up, 'cause you are
going to get kicked on a regular basis. You can't hang with this bunch
without taking your licks. How in the world can you be kind to people
like Chris and Daniel? If they were just loud and ignorant, that would
be one thing, but these people are influencing others, even little
children. Same with the Mormons. Nice guys. Probably would make
great neighbors, but they are confused enough about God to spend
eternity in Hell. Maybe, just maybe, Bill could say something some day
that would cause any of these guys to see the light if he hung around
and swallowed his pride.

If he doesn't teach them a thing, I am sure that in the process. all of
us would be strengthened in what we believe. Lord knows that I am
woefully ignorant in many areas and could learn much from anyone on
this list on how to or how not to (fill in the blank), but just because
someone says something, I am not going to accept it without
discussion. That is why I don't pay a lot of attention to preachers or
authors, or those who aren't eager to say why they think what they
think. So if Bill would be willing to stay around for our benefit,
that would be great, but if we all have to change to accomodate his
mild paranoia, then it is probably better that he go.
Blessings,
Terry
  






Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ

2004-04-30 Thread Lance Muir



Terry: Let 'em fly. No objection from my end. 
Lance

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terry Clifton 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: April 30, 2004 13:43
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on 
  TFTorrance's"The Mediation of Christ"
  Dorry Lance. I did not know this was personal. Just 
  wanted to point out that when iron sharpens iron, you have to expect 
  sparks.TerryLance Muir wrote:
  

Terry: 'twas not a post for you, sorry. I 
should have sent it privately to David. I also unwittingly violated a 
private post from Bill. Glad to know that you count yourself among the 
species that eat their own. The level of acrimony on TT does not rise above 
that which I encounter in our store however. My shin guards affixed I await 
more of TC. Blessings, lance

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terry Clifton 
  
  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: 
  April 30, 2004 08:54
  Subject: 
  Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on TFTorrance's"The Mediation of 
Christ"
  Lance Muir wrote:
  



You've come to see the impact that this man 
has on some of us.Please submit your reflections on this book. 
Issues involving text and interpretation could then be addressed as well 
as the nature, distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought. 

I for one would not like to see Bill 
Taylor leave TT. This conversation would certainly "cause" him to stay 
around.
If you've not finished it then, we'll all 
begin at the beginning and work our way through 
ittogether.
Blessings, 
  Lance===Sorry 
  Lance, but I have no desire to read or study this book. Having your 
  ideas printed out does not, in my opinion, make one an authority any more 
  than being the Pope makes you perfect.I doubt that Bill would stay 
  around just to join a book club anyway. He seems to get his feathers 
  ruffled too easily when people question the things he says, and I 
  guarantee you people on here are going to question everything said by 
  everyone. This has been for me a great place to learn, but for one 
  who wants to be accepted as a teacher, my advice is too put on your 
  shin guards and pucker up, 'cause you are going to get kicked on a regular 
  basis. You can't hang with this bunch without taking your 
  licks. How in the world can you be kind to people like Chris and 
  Daniel? If they were just loud and ignorant, that would be one 
  thing, but these people are influencing others, even little 
  children. Same with the Mormons. Nice guys. Probably 
  would make great neighbors, but they are confused enough about God to 
  spend eternity in Hell. Maybe, just maybe, Bill could say 
  something some day that would cause any of these guys to see the light if 
  he hung around and swallowed his pride.If he doesn't teach them a 
  thing, I am sure that in the process. all of us would be strengthened in 
  what we believe. Lord knows that I am woefully ignorant in many 
  areas and could learn much from anyone on this list on how to or how not 
  to (fill in the blank), but just because someone says something, I am not 
  going to accept it without discussion. That is why I don't pay a lot 
  of attention to preachers or authors, or those who aren't eager to say why 
  they think what they think. So if Bill would be willing to stay 
  around for our benefit, that would be great, but if we all have to change 
  to accomodate his mild paranoia, then it is probably better that he 
  go.Blessings,Terry