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I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- &qu
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:-)-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:08:08 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers & gt; there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is theresomething here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --- --- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He
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Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine.Which courses are you being 'examined' on?PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masLance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour)- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masIf you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and thealtar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it.From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd reallybe in trouble then ...On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more t
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No/yes Have you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there
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No, I have not read Bernard Lewis.Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are vry Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries. The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational. Lance wrote: Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness.But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran.People get passionate about its traditions, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No/yesHave you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masDo you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I do, Christine.Which courses are you being 'examined' on?PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masLance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour)- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masIf you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and thealtar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping
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'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism militant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously). - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 14:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas No, I have not read Bernard Lewis.Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are vry Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries. The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational. Lance wrote:Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness.But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran.People get passionate about its traditions, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No/yes Have you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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Lance wrote: their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred.Then you have no understanding of Christianity. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhismmilitant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously). - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 14:16Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masNo, I have not read Bernard Lewis.Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are vry Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries. The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational. Lance wrote:Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness.But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran.People get passionate about its traditions, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:No/yesHave you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masDo you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine.Which courses are you being 'examined' on?PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masLance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour
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Obviously.. Lance Muir wrote: 'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism militant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously).
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Hey!! If I hate enough people and know less than the students, can I be a teecher too? Sounds like one screwed up cookie, not necessarily an Oreo. Terry Christine Miller wrote: No, I have not read Bernard Lewis. Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are vry Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries. The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational. Lance wrote: Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness. But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran. People get passionate about its traditions, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No/yes Have you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance? I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit. (Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.) Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL
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Yeah, those radical/fundamentalist Liberals are Dangerous!!! iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:53 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas No/yes Have you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance? I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit. (Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.) Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry
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Uh, I think that's UF. FSU is in Tallahassee. ShieldsFamily wrote: Those are some tough tongues youre taking at FSU, Christine! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christine Miller Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:45 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance? I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit. (Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.) Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lance Muir No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words
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Oh, sorry! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 3:59 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Uh, I think that's UF. FSU is in Tallahassee. ShieldsFamily wrote: Those are some tough tongues youre taking at FSU, Christine! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christine Miller Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:45 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance? I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit. (Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.) Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lance Muir No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6
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IMO it is you that hates your Caricatured Fundamentalists! If there is hate in you there is no room for God.I do not hate anybody for your information. Apparently you are very confused thin skinned.Could you draw us a list of all the similarities between Bin Laden and the early 20th century Baptist presbyterian Fundamentalist preachers?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism militant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously).- Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 14:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masNo, I have not read Bernard Lewis.Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are vry Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries. The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational. Lance wrote:Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness.But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran.People get passionate about its traditions, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No/yesHave you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masDo you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine.Which courses are you being 'examined' on?PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masLance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour)- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masIf you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL
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BINGO!Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Lance wrote:their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred.Then you have no understanding of Christianity. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism militant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously).- Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 14:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masNo, I have not read Bernard Lewis.Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are vry Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries. The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational. Lance wrote:Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness.But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran.People get passionate about its traditions, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No/yesHave you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masDo you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine.Which courses are you being 'examined' on?PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masLance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour)- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masIf you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy
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In your Opinion do such statements border on Libel?Lance Muir wrote: 'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism militant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously). Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
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Ooo, you betcha !!! And there are a lotof these little headhunters still running around !! -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:56:37 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas All those early 20th centuryBaptist Presbyterian Fundamentalist preachers are just like BIN Laden EH? So similar it is Stunning, Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No/yes Have you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine. Which courses are you being 'examined' on? PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is theresomething here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your spe
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I think I'm starting to understand what you mean by "drive by," and you're right. Being a full-time student and having a job leaves me with too little time to make my stay on TT worthwhile. I'm signing off indefinately. Next semester will be even worse. Calculus 2, Statistics, Finance, oh my.JD wrote: get the point ...No. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Another successful drive by . Thanks Christine for your judgment on this matter. I shall avoid Lance in the future , and dean for differing reasons, and you, for ditto, andDMfor still other reasons, and Judy for you know what, and Linda for who knows what and and and --get the point jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:27:52 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masBINGO!Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance wrote:their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred.Then you have no understanding of Christianity. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism militant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously).- Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 14:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masNo, I have not read Bernard Lewis.Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are vry Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries. The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational. Lance wrote:Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness.But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran.People get passionate about its tradition s, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No/yesHave you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else? Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masDo you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, Christine.Which courses are you being 'examined' on?PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masLance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our
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Oh Christine, you don't need to be that drastic do you? Your "so called" drive bys are a whole lot more encouraging to some of us than half a page of nonsensical words by some others I can think of but who will be nameless here. You will be missed. But I do understand how stressful exam time at college can be. On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:56:21 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I'm starting to understand what you mean by "drive by," and you're right. Being a full-time student and having a job leaves me with too little time to make my stay on TT worthwhile. I'm signing off indefinately. Next semester will be even worse. Calculus 2, Statistics, Finance, oh my.JD wrote:get the point ...No. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another successful drive by . Thanks Christine for your judgment on this matter. I shall avoid Lance in the future , and dean for differing reasons, and you, for ditto, andDMfor still other reasons, and Judy for you know what, and Linda for who knows what and and and --get the point jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:27:52 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas BINGO!Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance wrote:their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred.Then you have no understanding of Christianity. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism militant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously). - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 14:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas No, I have not read Bernard Lewis.Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are vry Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries. The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational. Lance wrote:Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness.But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran.People get passionate about its tradition s, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No/yes Have you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similaritie
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haha That's OK. I think Dean referencing to the University of Miami in his posts. At least you both got the state correct.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, sorry!From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 3:59 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masUh, I think that's UF. FSU is in Tallahassee.ShieldsFamily wrote: Those are some tough tongues youre taking at FSU, Christine! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christine Miller Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:45 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masDo you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I do, Christine.Which courses are you being 'examined' on?PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masLance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour)- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masIf you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and thealtar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing??From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lance Muir No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it.From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ...On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION!Morepagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India.They,Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores.No more'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 andmany,many more to come). - Original Message -From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff bye-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found.It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears,Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising"Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted bysalespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went sofar as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bellringers there anymore.This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaimingChrist should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores arethere is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentionedChrist mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before wetry to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmasfalls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not h
[TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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I will start calling it the "Holiday season", when they start Selling "Holiday Trees" around the 4th of July Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore.This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service.Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here?The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine.Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts?Terry--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
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Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.With that reasoning we should all move to the most Pagan nation for "more people with whom to share/live the gospel."(3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). Pretty soon the USA will be a Third Rate nation like Canada has always been.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
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Ya know Kevin, one can never fail to appreciate the thoughtfulness that goes into your responses. What about the US economy, other than the overpriced stock market, would you tend to highlite? PS:I've got few illusions about Canada. Can you say the same concerning your country? Does anyone want to help this poor boy out or, is he just a jingoist? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. With that reasoning we should all move to the most Pagan nation for "more people with whom to share/live the gospel." (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). Pretty soon the USA will be a Third Rate nation like Canada has always been.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Yahoo! ShoppingFind Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
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By your logic, Lance, we should hope for the whole world to be lost so that we have more people to share the gospel with??? And how are we going to do that if words like Christ and Christmas are verboten? PS You forgot to mention the manufacturing jobs that were added (not in your stats). Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:41 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
Wake up and smell the coffee, Iz. I desire no such thing. Your response, similar to Kevin's response, is just a cry of fantasy (Say it ain't so Joe!). Should you wish to prepare grandchildren for the 'new world (order)' then begin to acquaint yourself with reality. Go to the library and pick up 'China Inc.' by Ted Fishman. How many manufacturing jobs were added over the same time span? You live in a knowledge-based economy. You are not turning out many younger women to fill the jobs in this sector. As you know Iz, guys and a lost cause when it comes to education. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 09:22 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas By your logic, Lance, we should hope for the whole world to be lost so that we have more people to share the gospel with??? And how are we going to do that if words like Christ and Christmas are verboten? PS You forgot to mention the manufacturing jobs that were added (not in your stats). Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:41 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
But they have all those damned demon children SAVE YOUR SELVES. Hide!!!-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. - -"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
Lance you SAID, More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. You are the one in fantasy world. Generally speaking, manufacturing jobs are on-the-job training types of jobs. No college education required. But America is entering a new age where information is the product more than manufacturing, which is increasingly be taken over by third world countries (it's a big step up for them.) iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 8:31 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Wake up and smell the coffee, Iz. I desire no such thing. Your response, similar to Kevin's response, is just a cry of fantasy (Say it ain't so Joe!). Should you wish to prepare grandchildren for the 'new world (order)' then begin to acquaint yourself with reality. Go to the library and pick up 'China Inc.' by Ted Fishman. How many manufacturing jobs were added over the same time span? You live in a knowledge-based economy. You are not turning out many younger women to fill the jobs in this sector. As you know Iz, guys and a lost cause when it comes to education. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 09:22 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas By your logic, Lance, we should hope for the whole world to be lost so that we have more people to share the gospel with??? And how are we going to do that if words like Christ and Christmas are verboten? PS You forgot to mention the manufacturing jobs that were added (not in your stats). Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:41 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
The dot com search engine business has been growing like crazy right thru the so called dot com bust. I can't keep up. The servers keep humming we keep counting up our good old AMEICAN DOLLAR$ the servers collect! Just love those CA$H cows! No end in sight! Those that want to be typewriter TV repairmen will be left behind just like the Cobblers andBlacksmiths during the Industrial revolution.It was the Politicians that forced the "Global economy" on the US Nobody voted for NAFTA or shipping jobs overseas. Nobody cried please we want NAFTAIn spite of the Hemorage in manufacturing jobs we still have the STRONGEST Economy in the World, and I think that is what has gotten under your skin. You want the US to bea Third Rate NOTHING like your country. Your jealous!What is so great about Canaduh? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya know Kevin, one can never fail to appreciate the thoughtfulness that goes into your responses. What about the US economy, other than the overpriced stock market, would you tend to highlite?PS:I've got few illusions about Canada. Can you say the same concerning your country? Does anyone want to help this poor boy out or, is he just a jingoist?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masUpset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.With that reasoning we should all move to the most Pagan nation for "more people with whom to share/live the gospel."(3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). Pretty soon the USA will be a Third Rate nation like Canada has always been.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.Yahoo! ShoppingFind Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). So lets all quit our jobs and go to China. We can evangelize the PAGANS And there are great opportunities in manufacturing in OUTER MONGOLIA They are hiring ASSEMBLY workers to INSERT the MOLDED BLACK PLASTIC DIAL on those FIVE DOLLAR Transitor RADIOS. It's NOT JUST A JOB itis a Career in ELECTRONICS! Great careers in sales too selling inventory to the dollar stores. -Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. - -"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
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You, Kevin, may be a Third Rate NOTHING, but, your country, at least for now, is not. I visit Windsor, a border city, every two weeks. I refust to visit Detroit. It is reflective of so much of that which your nation is becoming. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 11:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas The dot com search engine business has been growing like crazy right thru the so called dot com bust. I can't keep up. The servers keep humming we keep counting up our good old AMEICAN DOLLAR$ the servers collect! Just love those CA$H cows! No end in sight! Those that want to be typewriter TV repairmen will be left behind just like the Cobblers andBlacksmiths during the Industrial revolution. It was the Politicians that forced the "Global economy" on the US Nobody voted for NAFTA or shipping jobs overseas. Nobody cried please we want NAFTA In spite of the Hemorage in manufacturing jobs we still have the STRONGEST Economy in the World, and I think that is what has gotten under your skin. You want the US to bea Third Rate NOTHING like your country. Your jealous! What is so great about Canaduh? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya know Kevin, one can never fail to appreciate the thoughtfulness that goes into your responses. What about the US economy, other than the overpriced stock market, would you tend to highlite? PS:I've got few illusions about Canada. Can you say the same concerning your country? Does anyone want to help this poor boy out or, is he just a jingoist? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. With that reasoning we should all move to the most Pagan nation for "more people with whom to share/live the gospel." (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). Pretty soon the USA will be a Third Rate nation like Canada has always been.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought
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I am enjoying the fruits of my labor and the Booming Knowledge Economy. Salaries are on the Increase and opportunity abounds! The view Of Niagara Fallsfrom my 19th Floor corner office aint bad either!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You, Kevin, may be a Third Rate NOTHING, but, your country, at least for now, is not. I visit Windsor, a border city, every two weeks. I refust to visit Detroit. It is reflective of so much of that which your nation is becoming.- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 11:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masThe dot com search engine business has been growing like crazy right thru the so called dot com bust. I can't keep up. The servers keep humming we keep counting up our good old AMEICAN DOLLAR$ the servers collect! Just love those CA$H cows! No end in sight! Those that want to be typewriter TV repairmen will be left behind just like the Cobblers andBlacksmiths during the Industrial revolution.It was the Politicians that forced the "Global economy" on the US Nobody voted for NAFTA or shipping jobs overseas. Nobody cried please we want NAFTAIn spite of the Hemorage in manufacturing jobs we still have the STRONGEST Economy in the World, and I think that is what has gotten under your skin. You want the US to bea Third Rate NOTHING like your country. Your jealous!What is so great about Canaduh?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya know Kevin, one can never fail to appreciate the thoughtfulness that goes into your responses. What about the US economy, other than the overpriced stock market, would you tend to highlite? PS:I've got few illusions about Canada. Can you say the same concerning your country? Does anyone want to help this poor boy out or, is he just a jingoist?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.With that reasoning we should all move to the most Pagan nation for "more people with whom to share/live the gospel."(3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). Pretty soon the USA will be a Third Rate nation like Canada has always been.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be s
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I won't call you a LIAR, Kevin. It'd be inappropriate to address you as a LIAR. I have every confidence that you are known as a truth teller and not a LIAR. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 12:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas I am enjoying the fruits of my labor and the Booming Knowledge Economy. Salaries are on the Increase and opportunity abounds! The view Of Niagara Fallsfrom my 19th Floor corner office aint bad either!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You, Kevin, may be a Third Rate NOTHING, but, your country, at least for now, is not. I visit Windsor, a border city, every two weeks. I refust to visit Detroit. It is reflective of so much of that which your nation is becoming. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 11:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas The dot com search engine business has been growing like crazy right thru the so called dot com bust. I can't keep up. The servers keep humming we keep counting up our good old AMEICAN DOLLAR$ the servers collect! Just love those CA$H cows! No end in sight! Those that want to be typewriter TV repairmen will be left behind just like the Cobblers andBlacksmiths during the Industrial revolution. It was the Politicians that forced the "Global economy" on the US Nobody voted for NAFTA or shipping jobs overseas. Nobody cried please we want NAFTA In spite of the Hemorage in manufacturing jobs we still have the STRONGEST Economy in the World, and I think that is what has gotten under your skin. You want the US to bea Third Rate NOTHING like your country. Your jealous! What is so great about Canaduh? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya know Kevin, one can never fail to appreciate the thoughtfulness that goes into your responses. What about the US economy, other than the overpriced stock market, would you tend to highlite? PS:I've got few illusions about Canada. Can you say the same concerning your country? Does anyone want to help this poor boy out or, is he just a jingoist? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. With that reasoning we should all move to the most Pagan nation for "more people with whom to share/live the gospel." (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). Pretty soon the USA will be a Third Rate nation like Canada has always been.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that t
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No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 12:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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What in the world would I be Lying about?Do you have Any CLUE?? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't call you a LIAR, Kevin. It'd be inappropriate to address you as a LIAR. I have every confidence that you are known as a truth teller and not a LIAR.- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 12:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masI am enjoying the fruits of my labor and the Booming Knowledge Economy. Salaries are on the Increase and opportunity abounds! The view Of Niagara Fallsfrom my 19th Floor corner office aint bad either!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You, Kevin, may be a Third Rate NOTHING, but, your country, at least for now, is not. I visit Windsor, a border city, every two weeks. I refust to visit Detroit. It is reflective of so much of that which your nation is becoming.- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 11:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masThe dot com search engine business has been growing like crazy right thru the so called dot com bust. I can't keep up. The servers keep humming we keep counting up our good old AMEICAN DOLLAR$ the servers collect! Just love those CA$H cows! No end in sight! Those that want to be typewriter TV repairmen will be left behind just like the Cobblers andBlacksmiths during the Industrial revolution.It was the Politicians that forced the "Global economy" on the US Nobody voted for NAFTA or shipping jobs overseas. Nobody cried please we want NAFTAIn spite of the Hemorage in manufacturing jobs we still have the STRONGEST Economy in the World, and I think that is what has gotten under your skin. You want the US to bea Third Rate NOTHING like your country. Your jealous!What is so great about Canaduh?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya know Kevin, one can never fail to appreciate the thoughtfulness that goes into your responses. What about the US economy, other than the overpriced stock market, would you tend to highlite?PS:I've got few illusions about Canada. Can you say the same concerning your country? Does anyone want to help this poor boy out or, is he just a jingoist?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masUpset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.With that reasoning we should all move to the most Pagan nation for "more people with whom to share/live the gospel."(3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). Pretty soon the USA will be a Third Rate nation like Canada has always been.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there somethin
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You are in deep doodoo, he cries while standing up to his neck in it. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:03 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 12:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4) judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is theresomething here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4) judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
Yeah, and your mother wears combat boots!!! J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:46 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Allow me to raise the level of this conversationO yaa! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:36 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas You are in deep doodoo, he cries while standing up to his neck in it. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:03 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 12:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
I am certainly thankful that Canada serves as such a good buffer between America and the North Pole. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:50 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4) judyt He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
Not only is he well but, he asked for me to pass greetings along to you by name, Kevin. He knew of your affinity for the big 'M' - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas A prophet visited our store one week ago How is joe doing? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org I
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
What kind of prophets go about giving political statements? I understood the spiritual giftings to be of the edification and building up of the body of Christ. Are you sure he isn't a fortune teller? Actually I am not a "yank" by birth and I lived in Canada for a number of years, long enough to know that there are problems. True most Americans don't know a whole lot about Canada - blame that on the liberal media here. On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) From: Judy Taylor If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every
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Its provides such good insulation! (Doesnt that make Canadians insular?) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 2:00 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas I am certainly thankful that Canada serves as such a good buffer between America and the North Pole. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:50 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising Holiday sales. When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with Happy Holidays or Seasons greetings. Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services So that people can spend time with their families. That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments
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:-)-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:45:48 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Allow me to raise the level of this conversationO yaa! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:36 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas "You are in deep doodoo," he cries while standing up to his neck in it. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:03 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 12:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is theresomething here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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Lance Muir wrote: Allow me to raise the level of this conversationO yaa! ROFL Terry
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What about the US economy, other than the overpriced stock market, would you tend to highlite?Some Recent news headlines: Stanford earns $336M off Google stock Google stock tops $400, worth $117 billion Will Google's Stock Pass $500? Some things to which you KNOW nothing about Looks like Business is GOODhttp://www.nielsen-netratings.com/pr/pr_050721.pdfDOUBLE-DIGIT GROWTH IN SEARCH SEEN BY AOL AND ASK JEEVES FROM Q1 TO Q2 2005, WHILE TOP SEARCH PLAYERS GOOGLE AND YAHOO! MAINTAIN CONSISTENT GROWTH, ACCORDING TO NIELSEN//NETRATINGSDomain Name sales buy for $5 sell for? Payment Data closes on sale of bills.com domain name Payment Data Systems Inc. completed its previously announced sale of its bills.com domain name and trademark to Freedom Financial Network LLC. The local company received $950,000 in connection with the sale. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5467584/Domain name sells for $2.75 million CreditCards.com deal sparks talk of new gold rushhttp://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Domain-Name-Business-Booming-in-Post-Dot-Com-Era-129003WWAIE9.xhtml Domain Name Business Booming in Post-Dot-Com Erahttp://internetweek.cmp.com/173402848 Online Travel Market Shows Strong Growth The market is expected to reach $68 billion by the end of the year, up from $57 billion last yearOF COURSE you have heard of the BOOM in CONTEXTUAL, Right? http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-contextual-advertising.htmSo we won't even go into PPC or Sponsored links!http://www.outsourcingpipeline.com/172301874 Data Boom Puts Database Careers On Growth Trajectory Demand for database administrators is expected to continue. Labor Statistics projects a 66% growth in jobs through 2010 (Typewriter sales are down)How did you get that TYPEWRITER to work ONLINE anyhow?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You, Kevin, may be a Third Rate NOTHING, but, your country, at least for now, is not. I visit Windsor, a border city, every two weeks. I refust to visit Detroit. It is reflective of so much of that which your nation is becoming.- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 11:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masThe dot com search engine business has been growing like crazy right thru the so called dot com bust. I can't keep up. The servers keep humming we keep counting up our good old AMEICAN DOLLAR$ the servers collect! Just love those CA$H cows! No end in sight! Those that want to be typewriter TV repairmen will be left behind just like the Cobblers andBlacksmiths during the Industrial revolution.It was the Politicians that forced the "Global economy" on the US Nobody voted for NAFTA or shipping jobs overseas. Nobody cried please we want NAFTAIn spite of the Hemorage in manufacturing jobs we still have the STRONGEST Economy in the World, and I think that is what has gotten under your skin. You want the US to bea Third Rate NOTHING like your country. Your jealous!What is so great about Canaduh?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya know Kevin, one can never fail to appreciate the thoughtfulness that goes into your responses. What about the US economy, other than the overpriced stock market, would you tend to highlite?PS:I've got few illusions about Canada. Can you say the same concerning your country? Does anyone want to help this poor boy out or, is he just a jingoist?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masUpset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.With that reasoning we should all move to the most Pagan nation for "more people with whom to share/live the gospel."(3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). Pretty soon the USA will be a Third Rate nation like Canada has always been.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come).- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop adverti
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Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour)- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-masIf you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and thealtar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it.From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what wewould do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd reallybe in trouble then ...On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is theresomething here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join
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thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? ||
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..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? ||
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Interpretation please... Gary is speaking in tongues - Or could it be Dylanspeak?? On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:57:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? || judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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..it lookd like itblew the hell outa japan On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:57:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? ||
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Me is Where I'm At Today Me is where I'm at today And that is where I plan to stay. My own nose is on my faceAnd close to there that very place Is where my facial main face grows And where my face surrounds my nose. Yes, I've got sufficient space For my nose-surrounding face. Go ahead and be yourself your way. That seems to suit you right today. But look at me and you will see That I'm just right for being me. Richard Hacken[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, babyOn Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:||if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? ||__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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..you ain't seen nothin' yet On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:02:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..it lookd like itblew the hell outa japan On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:57:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? ||
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..move your Land Cruisers a little higher up the mountain On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:15:16 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..you ain't seen nothin' yet On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:02:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..it lookd like itblew the hell outa japan On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:57:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? ||
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DAVEH: I think you've just set a new record of posts for a TT poster responding to his own nonsense, G. :-D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..move your Land Cruisers a little higher up the mountain On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:15:16 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..you ain't seen nothin' yet On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:02:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..it lookd like itblew the hell outa japan On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:57:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? || -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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(but you're a mole:) anyway, do you have a catalog, Bro? on-line? what's an approx 2X black leather jacket goin' for these days? On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:27:17 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: I think you've just set a new record of posts for a TT poster responding to his own nonsense, G. :-D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..move your Land Cruisers a little higher up the mountain On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:15:16 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..you ain't seen nothin' yet On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:02:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..it lookd like itblew the hell outa japan On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:57:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing?? || -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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FORTUNATE SONCreedence Clearwater RevivalSome folks are born made to wave the flag,ooh, they're red, white and blue.And when the band plays "Hail To The Chief",oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,It ain't me, it ain't me,I ain't no senator's son,It ain't me, it ain't me,I ain't no fortunate one, no,Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,Lord, why don't they help themselves? oh.But when the taxman come to the door,Lord, the house look a like a rummage sale, yes,It ain't me, it ain't me,I ain't no millionaire's son.It ain't me, it ain't me,I ain't no fortunate one, no.Yeh, some folks inherit star spangled eyes,ooh, they send you down to war, Lord,And when you ask them, how much should we give,oh, they only answer, more, more, more, yoh,It ain't me, it ain't me,I ain't no military son,It ain't me, it ain't me,I ain't no fortunate one,It ain't me, it ain't me,I ain't no fortunate one, no no no,It ain't me, it ain't me,I ain't no fortunate son, son son son On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:35:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (but you're a mole:) anyway, do you have a catalog, Bro? on-line? what's an approx 2X black leather jacket goin' for these days? On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:27:17 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: I think you've just set a new record of posts for a TT poster responding to his own nonsense, G. :-D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..move your Land Cruisers a little higher up the mountain On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:15:16 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..you ain't seen nothin' yet On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:02:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..it lookd like itblew the hell outa japan On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:57:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:49:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing??
Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
I am always learning more about TT's that I didn't know before. So, Lance is a Canadian? Canadians often speak with a slight Scottish brogue, and say ""eh?" after each sentence. :) My Borrowman name comes from Scotland, and from a place in Canada called Middleville--in Lanark County of Ontario. Blainerb In a message dated 12/10/2005 10:59:53 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us. We'd really be in trouble then ... On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upset? No! Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel. What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They, Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many, many more to come). - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20 Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail, and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday sales". When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings". Target stores went so far as to run the Salvation army off it's property. No buckets or bell ringers there anymore. This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is not to proclaim Christ, but to make money. If they mentioned Christ mas, it would only be lip service. Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to remove the speck from their's. It seems that since Christmas falls on Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is s stupid. Why not take the family to church? What am I missing here? The words of Jesus keep running through my mind. "If you do not love me more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be Mine. Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this? Is there something here I don't see? Am I too critical? Your thoughts? Terry