Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor



Dave scripture is understood in the light of other 
scripture and calling it the tree of death does not change anything
What was the result of their partaking of it? God 
said "In the day you eat you shall surely die" They ate and 
they
immediately lost fellowship with the source of life and 
light. That day they died spiritually and became mortal, that
is, they began to die physically as well. So how 
is calling this tree a tree of death spinning anything? You 
think
death and dying are a good thing - rather than an enemy 
that has caused mankind to live in fear from that time on?

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:27:30 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  AE rejected it in favor of the tree of 
  deathDAVEH: I find it interesting that you changed 
  the terminology of the Bible regarding the tree of knowledge of good and 
  evil, Judy. It seems like you are purposely spinning what the 
  Bible said to promote your own bias by referring to it as a tree of death. Why would you call it a tree of death when the Lord called it a tree of 
  knowledge? Do you have a particular reason for your aversion to 
  the Lord's nomenclature regarding the tree of knowledge of good and 
  evil?Judy Taylor wrote: 
  

God's wisdom is a tree of life JD
AE rejected it in favor of the tree of 
death

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:38:42 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  So, you decided to ignore my comment about the Tree of 
  Life?Adam and Eve were not given any restrictions 
  concerningeating from this tree. What do you suppose 
  would be the result of eating from such fruit? I say 
  "continued life." jd 
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Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-11 Thread Dave Hansen




AE rejected it in favor of the tree of
death

DAVEH: I find it interesting that you changed the terminology of the
Bible regarding the tree of knowledge of good and evil,
Judy. It seems like you are purposely spinning what the Bible said to
promote your own bias by referring to it as a tree
of death. Why would you call it a tree
of death when the Lord called it a tree of knowledge?
Do you have a particular reason for your aversion to the Lord's
nomenclature regarding the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

Judy Taylor wrote:

  
  
  
  God's wisdom is a tree of life JD
  AE rejected it in favor of the
tree of death
  
  On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:38:42 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  


So, you decided to ignore my comment about the Tree of
Life?Adam and Eve were not given any restrictions concerningeating
from this tree. What do you suppose would be the result of eating
from such fruit? I say "continued life." jd 


  


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Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor





On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:33:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that 
  they were created 
  "mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the 
  garden. jd
  
  Above is the strawman that needs to be kicked 
  down 
  
  And look at this, even the Mormon boys know 
  better:
  Satanassured Eve she would not die by 
  eating the fruit, which indicates she was at that time 
  immortal. Also, God told her if she ate the good stuff on the 
  tree, she would surely die--another evidence she was at that time 
  immortal. They were then kicked out of the garden, to prevent them from 
  eating the fruit of the tree of life, which would have apparently restored 
  their immortality. 
  
  So both God and Satan agree that the first two 
  ppl are immortal ...
  which is not "like us" - that is outside of 
  Christ.
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-09 Thread knpraise

So, you decided to ignore my comment about the Tree of Life?Adam and Eve were not given any restrictions concerningeating from this tree. What do you suppose would be the result of eating from such fruit? I say "continued life." 

jd -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:26:46 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen





On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:33:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that they were created "mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the garden. jd

Above is the strawman that needs to be kicked down 

And look at this, even the Mormon boys know better:
Satanassured Eve she would not die by eating the fruit, which indicates she was at that time immortal. Also, God told her if she ate the good stuff on the tree, she would surely die--another evidence she was at that time immortal. They were then kicked out of the garden, to prevent them from eating the fruit of the tree of life, which would have apparently restored their immortality. 

So both God and Satan agree that the first two ppl are immortal ...
which is not "like us" - that is outside of Christ.



Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor




God's wisdom is a tree of life JD
AE rejected it in favor of the tree of 
death

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:38:42 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  So, you decided to ignore my comment about the Tree of 
  Life?Adam and Eve were not given any restrictions 
  concerningeating from this tree. What do you suppose would 
  be the result of eating from such fruit? I say "continued 
  life." jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

  
  
  On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:33:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  


Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact 
that they were created 
"mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the 
garden. jd

Above is the strawman that needs to be 
kicked down 

And look at this, even the Mormon boys know 
better:
Satanassured Eve she would not die by 
eating the fruit, which indicates she was at that time 
immortal. Also, God told her if she ate the good stuff on the 
tree, she would surely die--another evidence she was at that time 
immortal. They were then kicked out of the garden, to prevent them 
from eating the fruit of the tree of life, which would have apparently 
restored their immortality. 

So both God and Satan agree that the first 
two ppl are immortal ...
which is not "like us" - that is outside of 
Christ.

   
judyt 
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
Commandments 
is a liar (1 John 2:4)


Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-09 Thread knpraise

Huh ??? If you are saying that Adam and Eve made a choice betweenknowledge and life -- well, I would agree. But, if they were immortal, that was not a choice they had to make -- they didn't need the Tree of Life. Or, are you saying that the Tree of Life is allegory?

jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:52:41 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen




God's wisdom is a tree of life JD
AE rejected it in favor of the tree of death

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:38:42 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



So, you decided to ignore my comment about the Tree of Life?Adam and Eve were not given any restrictions concerningeating from this tree. What do you suppose would be the result of eating from such fruit? I say "continued life." jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]




On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:33:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that they were created "mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the garden. jd

Above is the strawman that needs to be kicked down 

And look at this, even the Mormon boys know better:
Satanassured Eve she would not die by eating the fruit, which indicates she was at that time immortal. Also, God told her if she ate the good stuff on the tree, she would surely die--another evidence she was at that time immortal. They were then kicked out of the garden, to prevent them from eating the fruit of the tree of life, which would have apparently restored their immortality. 

So both God and Satan agree that the first two ppl are immortal ...
which is not "like us" - that is outside of Christ.

 judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)