[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-22 Thread Lorant Nemeth
I think this bug deserves a Critical flag. It's not only causing
instability, but it causes data loss too.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-21 Thread KJ
2.6.28-12-generic #43-Ubuntu is out there, and maybe this one finally
fixes the bug. I'm already testing it as I write these lines.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-21 Thread KJ
I did some testing and to me it seems to be working. My partitions are not in 
ro mode and none of my apps are segfaulting. 
If it continues to work without a hassle I think it's time for a 9.04.2!

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-21 Thread KJ
2.6.28-12-generic #43-Ubuntu did it again. but this time it took significantly 
longer... 
the filesystem crashed and I had to recover it using live cd
narf.
so no bug fix for me yet, except installing 2.6.29 kernel using ppa...

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-20 Thread Lorant Nemeth
The official installation media has to be updated as well. I wouldn't
trust a system which was installed with a kernel that includes such a
problem. (I'm surprised no one faced any installation problems so
far)

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-20 Thread Daniel J Blueman
As a workaround to avoid silent data corruption, boot with 'maxcpus=1'
until the kernel is patched.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-20 Thread Lorant Nemeth
maxcpus=1 does not help.

I just reinstalled my laptop from minicd. I booted the installer with
maxcpus=1 and double checked that even after the install the kernel
would boot with that option.  I installed a few packages, installed
nvidia restricted driver. rebooted and /sbin/init was gone, so next
bootup failed.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-19 Thread Daniel J Blueman
This bug has been open for two months, and was fixed upstream some time
ago, but not in Ubuntu.

As a consequence, 2.6.28-11-generic and 2.6.28-11-server - the
production release media kernels deliver silent and show-stopping data
corruption, to the extent that the kernel kills user processes accessing
parts of the filesystem corrupted in a particular way. That's as game
over as it can get, and damaging for Ubuntu's image.

On the upside, there are a bunch of related fixes upstream for if the
Ubuntu kernel is rebased to a newer point release, and the patch posted
two months ago [1], is also probably the fixer.

What else do we need?

[1] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-
jaunty.git;a=commit;h=b29e79bf557ce777878518da154f4a0becb1de0e

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Re: [Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-19 Thread Johan
We need it to be made as an official upgrade, is what. For a user to
have to go through hmm, all my programs just spontaneously crash, go
search for ubuntu bugs, and read through 40 comments, just to get a
fix is asking too much, especially considering a large group of users
barely know how to do anything other than open their email app and
surf the web. Seeing as this is such a wide-spread problem and a
kernel upgrade fixes it in what seems to be 100% of the cases, a
kernel upgrade should really be put into the live repository.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-17 Thread MiceX
lshw of my system. Affected with x64 and not affected with x32.

** Attachment added: lshw.txt
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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-14 Thread Lorant Nemeth
Those who have upgraded to 2.6.29: did you use vanilla kernel, or you
used some ubuntu repo

 My only problem with the kernel upgrade is, that first you'd need to
install ubuntu from the CD with the same buggy kernel, and only after
that you can install the new kernel. This means that by the end of the
installation you can't tell what got correctly written to HDD and what
did not.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-14 Thread kikvors
I used the ubuntu repo System was stable enough with buggy kernel to
upgrade to the newer one. After that I ran fsck in case there were any
errors. So far no problems with the newer kernel.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-14 Thread str0g
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

after instaling system just
sudo dpkg -i generic.deb all.deb image.deb
and there wont be any other errors trust me ;-)

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-14 Thread PsYcHoK9
This is my lshw.

2.6.30rc5 (vanilla) don't seem to be affected.
I've downloaded it from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-13 Thread josh04
Confirming that I too have an ICH8M/M-E and had the problem. I upgraded
to 2.6.29 and it's not gotten any worse, but I need to fsck.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-12 Thread str0g
if its controller driver error , why on my foxconn x38 ich9r there are
no errors?

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-12 Thread Lorant Nemeth
Hi,

I have ICH8 as well:

00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E)
SATA IDE Controller (rev 03)

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-12 Thread giorgio130
anyone has tested 2.6.28-12? it is in the proposed repository.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-12 Thread adamski
I have not tested 2.6.28-12, but the changelog does not mention this bug
being closed.

Changelog is at
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/2.6.28-12.43

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-12 Thread PsYcHoK9
I've same problem with Ext4, Jaunty 9.04 x64 and kernel 2.6.28-11).
Sometime, without blackout or crash, the applications on Jaunty diseappear or 
become not visible.
Last time I've started GParted and don't found ntfsprogs but is installed!
Sometime diseappear the icon on gnome menu of some application...
Sometime diseappear a aMule configuration files...

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-11 Thread KJ
My failing system also contains a  82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA IDE 
Controller
Just for your information.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-10 Thread Petter Eklund
Were there any changes in the ata_piix driver (the driver used by
82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA IDE Controller which 5 of the people
suffering from this bug have in their machines according to posted
output from lshw) between 2.6.28.9 and 2.6.28.11?

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-10 Thread Martin Peterka
I can confirm that on affected system is 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA IDE 
Controller.
On another computer without mentioned IDE Controller is 2.6.28-11 running fine.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-10 Thread Julius Schwartzenberg
I've got an ICH9M/M-E here, so it seems both 8  9 are affected.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-10 Thread str0g
wired if its controler error why, smart doesn't show any errors on ich9
? :P

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-10 Thread Petter Eklund
If it is an error in the drivers (e.g. software), why should it show up in a 
hardware test?
From what information I've got it looks like something was broken in the 
ata_piix kernel module between versions 2.6.28-9 and 2.6.28-11 and then 
subsequently fixed (it could also be an error somewhere else that triggers 
erroneous behaviour in the ata_piix driver).

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-10 Thread Julius Schwartzenberg
Here is the whole changelog:
http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_2.6.28-11.42/changelog

It seems there have been one or two changes to ata_piix. Maybe the
problem could be related to some of the libata changes.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-08 Thread Valsodarg
I was also a victim of this bug, in which I experienced the following:
1. My applications started receiving segfaults. I tried to strace them and 
found that the segfaults were mostly due to problems with files (corrupted 
files)
2. Then my administrative applications started segfaulting and after that my 
kernel wouldn't boot as a results in a heavily corrupted file system. I ran 
fsck.ext3 on my boot partition and all the files were corrupted.

To solve:
Reinstalled ubuntu from the live CD and updated the kernel to the 
2.6.29-020629. So far I have had no problem.

I am a little surprised that my brother who has a 32 bit system does not have 
this problem with the 2.6.28-11 kernel and as it seams that only 64bit systems 
are affected. Can anyone with 32 bit system confirm this. I also believe that 
it has to do with how files are written/updated as many of the errors that fsck 
reported were:
1. Inode referenced in future data
2. Inode reference count too high
3. Unattached Inodes

Another note is that none of my boot files (as my grub is on its own partition) 
were corrupted.
System specs:
64 bit, Intel Core 2 duo, 4 GB ram, 320 GB WD hdd (2.5 inch)
Multiboot Setup

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-08 Thread Valsodarg
Also I forgot to mention all partitions were ext3 formatted during
installation.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-07 Thread Graziano
Just for developers of karmic, bug is no more present in Ubuntu
2.6.30-2.3-generic.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-06 Thread Lorant Nemeth
Hi, I ran memtest and it reported no error. The very same laptop is
stable with no errors if booted from en external drive with intrepid.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-06 Thread Claudio Schnell da Silva
Good morning,

my FSC-notebook has the same problems described above. IT was upgraded
to jaunty (stable) from Ibex. After 2 days it didn't boot anymore. A
trial to save data only had partial success - lots of data are missing
:-(

Did some reinstalls with several FS-types (reiser, ext4, ext3) with
always the same effect - some reboots ok, suddenly at runtime a read-
only FS. The system does not react anymore. Only a hard reset helps.
After this the FS is broken.

As it is my production notebook I reinstalled it with Intrepid Ibex and
everything is running fine :-(((

Attached is the output of lshw.

It looks strange to me that canonical does not fix this bug for so much
time. I have been appreciating their work for years and many releases
since 4.07 I think.

Best regards,

Claudio

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread Martin Peterka
I had same problem.
System was running fine, until I updated to jaunty (64bit). After second reboot 
auto fsck failed (on one of my ext3 partitions). So I`ve repaired it manually. 
Some data was lost, so I buy an external usb harddisk and start back-up. System 
freeze and didn`t boot anymore. I try repair it, without success. I reinstaled 
it (jaunty again, kernel 2.6.28-11), but backup (on external disk with vfat) 
was also corrupted.:(
dmesg was full of error messages about filesystem, a lot of programs (sudo eg.) 
stop working, filesystem was remounted readonly.
If I boot to jaunty live cd, output of fdisk -l /dev/sda was very strange. 
(Error messages about partitions which have begin and end in another partition. 
I havent this output - and if yes, it will be lost.)
Using fdisk I recreated partitions, install jaunty again. (+ ext3 was replaced 
by ext4.) The filesystem was full of errors again.  I found this bug, so I`ve 
tried to install another kernel from kernel.ubuntu.org 
(2.6.30-020630rc4-generic). (It isnt easy if /var/lib/dpkg/available is also 
corrupted file.)

ok, in this post isn`t a lot of useful information - maybe just that one
about fdisk output. I hope that helps.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread Lorant Nemeth
On my T61p I got all sort of filesystem problems just like Martin
Peterka (no io errors in dmesg). Applications were crashing with memory
corruption error and so on so I decided to reinstall the system from
scratch. Install went fine, but after the second reboot I got back
initrd prompt saying that init could not be found although I was able to
mount rootfs manually. I'll do a new reinstall and check when things get
screwed. I'll let you know about the result.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread Lorant Nemeth
Reinstall done:
- first boot ok
- install all upgrades
- reboot ok
- install nvidia 180 driver
- first reboot stuck before splash screen !?!
- second reboot successful
- apt-get install wireshark tshark vim-full compizconfig-settings-manager mc  
 complains about corrupted /var/lib/dpkg/status
- dmesg still doesn't show any io errors, but I'll check smart once I fix dpkg

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread Lorant Nemeth
The saga continues:
- cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
- apt-get -f install runs fine
r...@kolibri:~# apt-get install wireshark tshark vim-full 
compizconfig-settings-manager mc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libadns1 liblua5.1-0 libruby1.8 menu python-compizconfig tcl8.4 vim-gnome
  vim-gui-common vim-runtime wireshark-common
Suggested packages:
  adns-tools arj xpdf dbview odt2txt tclreadline cscope vim-doc ttf-dejavu
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  compizconfig-settings-manager libadns1 liblua5.1-0 libruby1.8 mc menu
  python-compizconfig tcl8.4 tshark vim-full vim-gnome vim-gui-common
  vim-runtime wireshark wireshark-common
0 upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/26.2MB of archives.
After this operation, 104MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Selecting previously deselected package libadns1.
(Reading database ... 101625 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libadns1 (from .../libadns1_1.4-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package liblua5.1-0.
Unpacking liblua5.1-0 (from .../liblua5.1-0_5.1.4-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libruby1.8.
Unpacking libruby1.8 (from .../libruby1.8_1.8.7.72-3_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package mc.
Unpacking mc (from .../mc_2%3a4.6.2~git20080311-4ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package menu.
Unpacking menu (from .../menu_2.1.41ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package tcl8.4.
Unpacking tcl8.4 (from .../tcl8.4_8.4.19-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package wireshark-common.
Unpacking wireshark-common (from .../wireshark-common_1.0.7-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb) 
...
Selecting previously deselected package tshark.
Unpacking tshark (from .../tshark_1.0.7-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package vim-gui-common.
Unpacking vim-gui-common (from .../vim-gui-common_2%3a7.2.079-1ubuntu5_all.deb) 
...
Selecting previously deselected package vim-runtime.
Unpacking vim-runtime (from .../vim-runtime_2%3a7.2.079-1ubuntu5_all.deb) ...
Adding `diversion of /usr/share/vim/vim72/doc/help.txt to 
/usr/share/vim/vim72/doc/help.txt.vim-tiny by vim-runtime'
Adding `diversion of /usr/share/vim/vim72/doc/tags to 
/usr/share/vim/vim72/doc/tags.vim-tiny by vim-runtime'
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_2%3a7.2.079-1ubuntu5_all.deb (--unpack):
 short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during 
`./usr/share/vim/vim72/doc/tags')
Selecting previously deselected package wireshark.
Unpacking wireshark (from .../wireshark_1.0.7-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python-compizconfig.
Unpacking python-compizconfig (from 
.../python-compizconfig_0.8.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package compizconfig-settings-manager.
Unpacking compizconfig-settings-manager (from 
.../compizconfig-settings-manager_0.8.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package vim-gnome.
Unpacking vim-gnome (from .../vim-gnome_2%3a7.2.079-1ubuntu5_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package vim-full.
Unpacking vim-full (from .../vim-full_2%3a7.2.079-1ubuntu5_all.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for doc-base ...
Processing 1 added doc-base file(s)...
Registering documents with scrollkeeper...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_2%3a7.2.079-1ubuntu5_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
- rm /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_2%3a7.2.079-1ubuntu5_all.deb
- r...@kolibri:~# apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  vim-runtime
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  vim-runtime
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
14 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 5809kB of archives.
After this operation, 25.1MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Get:1 http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main vim-runtime 2:7.2.079-1ubuntu5 
[5809kB]
Fetched 5809kB in 3s (1726kB/s)   
Segmentation fault


The whole system is really unstable and as the problem seems to be on 
filesystem level I wouldn't use it in production until the problem is fixed. 
Strange enough I haven't seen this problem on 64 bit desktop systems but only 
on this 64bit laptop.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread chriz
I will note here that corrupted RAM modules also could result in
corrupted files and file system errors. So in my case with Ubuntu 9.04
x64 and ext4. Replacing the corrupted modules stopped getting more and
more file system errors. But nevertheless were some errors remaining
what is related to this bug in my opinion.

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Re: [Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread Edmundo
Could a memtest run detect a problem with RAM then?

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM, chriz christian.sei...@gmx.de wrote:
 I will note here that corrupted RAM modules also could result in
 corrupted files and file system errors. So in my case with Ubuntu 9.04
 x64 and ext4. Replacing the corrupted modules stopped getting more and
 more file system errors. But nevertheless were some errors remaining
 what is related to this bug in my opinion.


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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread Graziano
Not a memory problem here. System is rock solid with either 2.6.28-9 kernel OR 
2.6.29 mainline. Definitively NOT a memory problem: it is just unusable with 
2.6.28-11 which is jaunty final kernel.
I am now on karmic devel, using 2.6.29-02062902-generic and have NO problems on 
same hardware.

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Re: [Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread chriz
Yes. In my case has memtest reported errors in my RAM modules.

Edmundo wrote:
 Could a memtest run detect a problem with RAM then?

 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM, chriz christian.sei...@gmx.de wrote:
   
 I will note here that corrupted RAM modules also could result in
 corrupted files and file system errors. So in my case with Ubuntu 9.04
 x64 and ext4. Replacing the corrupted modules stopped getting more and
 more file system errors. But nevertheless were some errors remaining
 what is related to this bug in my opinion.

 



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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread god-mok
In my case there was no problem with memtest. I even checked it half an
hour without problems. Well, i have Jaunty on another notebook, and
there it does the job right. After all i installed the 2.6.29 kernel.
everything works fine. Too bad the 30rc4 won't install because it fails
to build the nvidia parts. There is a trick to get over it, but... well,
it is a little bit dirty ;)

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Re: [Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-05 Thread Edmundo
I C well over here, it's a 64 bit laptop AMD based... I'm
using ext3 partitions with a .28 kernel. It's stable. As a matter of
fact, now that I think about it why am I associated in this bug?
:-D Anyway.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-04 Thread KJ
Indeed, Nvidia works in the current 2.6.29 perfectly. But VMWare Server
won't compile the modules needed, even though 2.6.29 headers are
installed and even though the gcc version it requests is installed...

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-02 Thread str0g
2.6.29-02062901-generic 
fsck found no error, works good for me.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-02 Thread KJ
mainline kernel 2.6.29 indeed does not contain the bug anymore. but this
is quite inconvenient for the regular user since the modules for
proprietary drivers (nvidia) are missing...

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Re: [Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-05-02 Thread Siegfried Gevatter (RainCT)
2009/5/2 KJ cortexbus...@gmx.net:
 mainline kernel 2.6.29 indeed does not contain the bug anymore. but this
 is quite inconvenient for the regular user since the modules for
 proprietary drivers (nvidia) are missing...

They work perfectly here. If you install the new kernel using one of
the .deb's from kernel.ubuntu.com the nvidia drivers will
automatically get rebuild for it.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-30 Thread ®om
But apt-get is not the only bug : many files could be corrupted... cf my 
duplicate of this bug : bug 350268
How to be sure there is no problem after installing a new kernel which fixes 
the problem?

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-30 Thread giorgio130
After you've installed kernel 2.6.29 or 2.6.28-9, run a fsck from a live
cd.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-29 Thread ®om
I agree this bug should be critical.
It seems to affect only jaunty 64 bits, but it makes the system totally 
unusable.

Once resolved, a new .iso of Jaunty must be released (9.04.1), because
it is not possible to install the current final release (which doesn't
work) to apt-get upgrade (which segfault due to this kernel).

Jaunty alpha4 was more stable...

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-29 Thread giorgio130
@ ®om: let's hope it's solved before karmic

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Re: [Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-29 Thread Siegfried Gevatter (RainCT)
You can workaround the apt-get segfault with sudo rm
/var/cache/apt/*.bin and then install a different kernel.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-28 Thread adamski
I am amazed that this bug is not marked as Critical!

Obviously, this affects a great deal of users in a way that is extremely
destructive.

In my opinion, this bug alone renders Jaunty completely unfit for a
production environment! There's no getting around that data loss and
file system corruption due to a kernel error is absolutely and 100%
unacceptable in a so-called stable release. The fact that it
apparently happens on very common hardware does not help.

Sorry for the harsh words, but this is simply Not Good Enough!

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-28 Thread mirix
I agree that it is not acceptable to release a so called stable
version being aware of such a serious bug.

Fuchur:

I have compiled kernel 2.6.29.1 (2.6.29.2 is already available but I
have not tested it) a few weeks ago and I have not had any issues since
then.

You can download precompiled packages from the Ubuntu site (I do not
have the URL) and install them with dpkg.

A few people describe easy ways to compile it from source:

http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/how-to-fix-ubuntu-jaunty-
warning-hacks-ahead/

http://koroshiyaitchy.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/ubuntu-904-jaunty-
jackalope-customised-for-performance-on-a-nexoc-osiris-e705iii-clevo-
m57ru-laptop/

I followed these older instructions:

http://symbolik.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/vanilla-kernel-26231-on-gutsy-
gibbon/

Just changing the obvious parts. I guess all three methods are actually
the same. Just a few kernel configuration options change.

The only annoying and unresolved issue I have found this far is related
to this:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3593262

I have followed the instructions on that how-to to no avail. I have also
tried a Gentoo method with uvesafb with no better luck. However, regular
Ubuntu installations also give similar problems if you install the
proprietary NVIDIA or ATI drivers.

In fact, provided the big deal of manual configuration I have ended up
carrying out, I am seriously considering moving back to good old Debian,
which is far more stable, faster and less buggy than Ubuntu. Ubuntu is
more modern, but less than, for instance, Fedora.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-28 Thread str0g
I tell you why it isn't critical, my desktop c2q,x38+ich9r,4gb,3 hdd,
works great with it, my friend laptop with x2, and dekstop with x2 also
works. Its realy hard to say what when wrong but obviusly developers
should be test system on modern laptops, to avoid this kind of
problems...

I've install kerenel Linux lukasz-laptop 2.6.29-02062901-generic
#02062901 SMP Fri Apr 3 13:36:07 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

and i have some minnor issues like to days acpi update cannot be
installed and there are some minnor errors with kerenel header
installetion, but system is stable, and there are no data losses.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-28 Thread kikvors
I can tell you that I lost two days work with this bug. Next time I
will not assume a final release is stable and wait before upgrading.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-28 Thread KJ
fuchur:
actually I first installed 8.10 and performed a dist upgrade. after the first 
reboot I selected the old ubuntu 8.10 during the grub menu. once the system was 
up and running again I downloaded 2.6.28-9 debs from packages.ubuntu.com and 
installed it. 


the strict ubuntu release cycle harms the renown of ubuntu. such bugs should 
simply delay a release. there are so many laptops out there which suffer from 
this bug.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-27 Thread ®om
Maybe related : bug 350268

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-27 Thread Siegfried Gevatter (RainCT)
Seems like it's the same problem I have...
http://bloc.eurion.net/archives/2009/one-week-with-debian/

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-27 Thread KJ
as far as I see yes.
either the current 2.6.29 mainline kernel or 2.6.28-9 can help you out.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-27 Thread fuchur
Ok, as this seems the original bug report:

Until this is fixed, I am thinking about using a new kernel, but

a) which problems could this cause - there must be a reason that kernels
are never replaced during a release cycle

b) how would I do this - apt-get   typically hangs  after a few packages are 
downloaded, and the file system quickly gets read-only.
could I install the new kernel to intrepid and then dist-upgrade to jaunty? how 
is the correct procedure

c)If this bug was known march 20, and confirmed some days before the
release, why is there not even at least some remark  in the release
notes  ?

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-27 Thread fuchur
Ok, as this seems the original bug report:

Until this is fixed, I am thinking about using a new kernel, but

a) which problems could this cause - there must be a reason that kernels
are never replaced during a release cycle

b) how would I do this - apt-get   typically hangs  after a few packages are 
downloaded, and the file system quickly gets read-only.
could I install the new kernel to intrepid and then dist-upgrade to jaunty? how 
is the correct procedure

c)If this bug was known march 20, and confirmed some days before the
release, why is there not even at least some remark  in the release
notes  ?

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-27 Thread giorgio130
same problem here on a compal jhl90. I managed to install 2.6.29 and it
seems to run fine now.

** Attachment added: lshw.txt
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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-27 Thread str0g
i have same bug, on my jhl90 but downgrading kernel doesnt work :/


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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-24 Thread Steffen Rusitschka
Did anyone try if the final version of Jaunty still has this issue?

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-24 Thread Graziano
AFAIK 24/04 is release date for jaunty and on my system the current
ubuntu kernel version (not the one I am running with, but the one linked
to the linux-image-generic) is 2.6.28-11.42. So the message from KJ
above,

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/346691/comments/18

answers Your question. Last I personally tried is 11.41.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-24 Thread Ivo Smits
Have seen the same problem here on my HP Compaq 8510w. While downloading
updates (using the update manager) the filesystem suddenly locked up
(switched to read-only mode). At that moment I had one virtual machine
(VirtualBox) running as well, but I do not think think that's related to
the problem.

After trying ubuntu for the first time, a friend of mine told me about
this problem (exactly the same hardware). I told him it couldn't be
Ubuntu's fault and finally decided to try myself. My system worked fine
for at least a week before it crashed, and fsck was able to repair the
filesystem.

I have Ubuntu Jaunty amd64 running on a VMWare virtual machine and have
not seen any problems there (yep.. the issue seems to be hardware-
related...).

I'll attach my lshw result as well.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-21 Thread Kevin W.
I have gotten WAP2E to work by using wicd as my network manager. Sounds
like I have another bug to search for.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-19 Thread Graziano
IIRC Jaunty will definitively ship with a 2.6.28 kernel.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-February/004321.html

Can confirm bug is not present using mainline 2.6.29.1, but this will be of 
some help with Karmic.
For people who do not know how to get mainline, here You can find stock linux 
kernels compiled for Ubuntu:

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

I do not recommend in any way to do this, but if You really have problems, this 
is the way to go. Remember that You will not find help on kernel related 
problems using mainline from Ubuntu developers!
If want to use Ubuntu kernel, keep reading this thread for possible solutions. 
As we are really close to release, I expect this bug to be tracked down by 
developers after April, 24.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-19 Thread Kevin W.
Just to comment on my previous comment, it seems WPA2E still doesn't
work.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-18 Thread KJ
the trouble continues with linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic (2.6.28-11.42)
filesystem access fails after a few minutes.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-18 Thread Kevin W.
I am also getting the same things as people above. I am currently
running off live cd and found this bug here, which hits it right on the
mark for me. I have the exact system specs as the common list and only
seemed to have the problem after kernel upgrade. Hope there is a fix for
release.

Attached lshw just in case.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-18 Thread Kevin W.
I forgot to say on the above that I installed with the RC.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-18 Thread KJ
since this is such a showstopper for everyone with this hardware config I'd 
really appreciate any dev comment. 
is anybody working on the issue? 
do you need more information? 
what can be done to track down the error? 
we're close to the official release. this could turn into a disaster for a lot 
of regular users upgrading to jaunty.  
I'm concerned about the quality of ubuntu. it's a great os. I use it on a 
couple of servers as well das desktops / notebooks. but such a widespread error 
so close to a release can do the project real harm.
just my two cents.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-18 Thread Kevin W.
I just did a disk repair in order to boot up again. Because I'd rather
not lose anything else, I'm going to use the ppa for .29 kernel until
something better is shown here.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-18 Thread Kevin W.
I found out after rebooting to try and install the new kernel that my
partition was too far gone to boot up anymore, so I had to reinstall. I
also want to add that I found out that when I reinstalled Kubuntu RC for
the fourth time that even if I don't upgrade to the latest kernel, it
still messes things up. IDK what kernel is in the RC by default, but it
seems I will for sure have to use a different kernel. Here goes a fifth
time.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-18 Thread Kevin W.
Oooh, I found something else interesting out. It's too bad it's this
close to release, but it seems the upgrade to the .29 kernel also fixed
a bug I(and others) seemed to have about network manager not connecting
to encrypted networks. So far, I am able to connect to my WEP wifi
hotspot which I couldn't do on livecd or fresh install. I will try my
university's WPA2 Enterprise connection next. I do wish this was the
default kernel in Jaunty, because it'd make things work better and make
life less difficult.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-15 Thread Steffen Rusitschka
I'm also a bit concerned about the RC/final of Jaunty... Anyway, here's
a short summary of all lshw.txt attached to this bug an its duplicate:

Common to all machines:
- Intel Core 2 Duo
- 4 GB RAM
- 4965 AG(N) WiFi
- Intel 965 Memory Controller
- Nvidia Graphics Card: 8x00M

I'm not sure if everyone is running a 64-bit version of Jaunty.

But: those hardware combinations are far from being exotic - almost all
new Laptops have a similar configuration...

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-15 Thread KJ
I have exactly the same HW and I'm running the 64 bit Version of Jaunty.
And I experience also the same problems you all have.
I can't run 2.6.28-11 without severe data loss.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-15 Thread Louis-Dominique Dubeau
I'm experiencing the same problem on a Compal IFL90 (aka Sager NP2090).
Running Jaunty 64-bit.

No data loss on my side but I've experienced some random kernel and
process crashes.  (Emacs works fine but a few hours later all executions
of emacs result in automatic segfaults!)

Downgrading to 2.6.28-9 fixed this issue but created other issues.  I'm
now running into this bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/330814

Fixing it requires a kernel upgrade!

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-13 Thread Graziano
Just to bump. Problem is still here. 2.6.28-9 is stable, 2.6.28-11 is
unusable on this hardware. As all hardware is currently working, I have
no problem in living with -9, but am worried about the problem.

Today I just tried again with 2.6.28-11.41 just to have program
segfaulting after a minute or two, and a filesystem repair process at
startup. Now I am with ext4, cannot report anymore on jfs.

I have read all patches introduced in the -9 - -11 jump, and I was unable to 
find something really interesting.
Jaunty will for sure ship with 2.6.28, and as we are 10 days now from release, 
the problem is better handled by some kernel people.

I decided to go unstable just to help, as I am a somewhat experienced
user who knows how to recover from backups and knows how to live with
system hiccups. If we are here to build a community system, someone has
to test it, and discover bugs for not experienced users to avoid them.
Ubuntu, was something about community, or am I missing something?

I am plenty of options to live bleeding edge, am here just to help the
Ubuntu project. I won't stay with Jaunty, will jump on Karmik as soon as
it starts its development phase: lot of bug reporters will be available
for official release, and I am of much help ahead of them.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-07 Thread mirix
@god-mok:

when you install a beta version you take some risks. as far as I know,
the problem only happens when you upgrade the kernel. so if you stick to
the kernel provided by the installation CD (2.6.28-9) until the problem
is solved, you should be safe. I guess this is a problem specific to the
Ubuntu kernel 2.6.28-11.

I upgraded to the latest Linux kernel (2.6.29.1) because I wanted to.
but I was not recommending or even suggesting to anybody to do so.

cheers

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-06 Thread mirix
Installing 9.04 beta (AMD) via the Live CD and then compiling the kernel
to 2.6.29.1 (before doing any other update via Aptitude/Synaptic)
renders a very stable and performant system.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-06 Thread god-mok
@mirix: too bad, if someone knows what he have to do, than it's no
problem, but i don't think thats the idea behind everything. As long as
there is no support it's not such a good idea, right?

Today I had another crash. I reinstalled again, and after reboot the bug
came at first boot, not as always at the second after the freeze. So
like again, I mounted my home partition manually and everything worked
so far. Updates and diver installed, added some repos to my source list
and than there was the freeze again.

Thought it could be some new package problem, but it happened not, because i 
reinstalled again, and after the first save boot i didn't do anything. I let it 
run for almost 30 minutes, than i rebooted. Same problem, so i had to mount 
manually, but sometimes it didn't worked.
There was a notice after the failed boot, something like two files share same 
sector/inode in a folder /home/god-mok/???/a9...x86_64... Too bad I have no 
???-folder and i didn't memorized the whole numbers so thats all now. The 
numbers looked like a md5 hash until it reached x86_64. I have no idea where 
that came from after the fresh install with formated partitions.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-03 Thread Manoj Iyer
** Summary changed:

- jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel destroy system
+ jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the  system un-usable.

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-03 Thread Graziano
The patch mentioned above was suspected by me to cause lot of trouble,
but it NEEDS to be something related also to HW configuration.

Tried today again with 2.6.28-11 and got EXACTLY same behaviour as god-
mok. I was really lucky to recover filesystem and get back here. AGAIN:
No Problem with 2.6.28-9. System gets unusable (actually all filesystem
can be lost, and if You call it unusable, I do prefer destroyed, as I
had multiple times to recover from backups) using 2.6.28-11 for more
than some minutes.

I repeat: Seems something related ALSO to hardware, as I have tried the
same schema on multiple hardware (fresh install with 2.6.28-9, then
update to 2.6.28-11) and I had problems ONLY on my notebook.

Please god-mok, would You please post the output of lshw, as I have not find 
complete specs of Your Clevio?
Looking at a summary hardware, it seems really similar to the COMPAL setup:

• 17 WSXGA Aktiv Matrix Glare TFT (1680*1050)
• inkl. 1.3 MPix Webcam
• nVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX 512MB
• Core2Duo T9300 / 2,5GHz 6MB/800 MHz
• 4096 MB (2x2048) SO-DIMM DDR2 800MHz
• 200 GB / 7200 U/min S-ATA
• DVD±R/±RW DL (Dual Layer) 8x/8x Multinorm-Brenner
• Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
• int. Bluetooth-Module

But I am really curious about chipset used. Let us sort this trouble
out!

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-03 Thread Manoj Iyer
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Manoj Iyer (manjo)

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[Bug 346691] Re: jaunty kernel 2.6.28-11 kernel update renders the system un-usable.

2009-04-03 Thread god-mok
sorry, totaly forgotten. Here is my lshw file.

At the time i have no battery attached, but doesn't matter, 'cause it was the 
same.
And yeah, our hardware seems very simmilar.
Only thing is i do not have the Bluetooth-Module. Everything else is veri 
similar to my hardware.

Oh yeah, and another thing: I tried to recover files with testdisk and
some other programs, but most of it failed. I found some Pics and some
movie files (totaly splitted) and so it was totaly lost time.

But before that, ich checked the partitions like everyone. I even tried it with 
ext3 and ext4 with my home partition, but it was the same: many inodes issues 
(199), and after that nothing changed. Rerun the check, and it happend the same 
again, as it could not be changed (read only).
As i checked every time the disk, then once something happend: fsck tried to 
change the filesystem ext4 to ext2. I don't know why that happened, and it also 
didn't worked, but I tried :)

Maybe the last point doesn't matter, but for me it was very strange...

Oh, and under livecd i could not find the home partition with gparted,
but the root partition was ok, and i could even mount it.

Well, i think even now why the system thinks it is on read only status,
but i can manage, change and do everything with the files...

If you need any more specific hardware details, than ask. I will gladly
look at my paper for it.

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