[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
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[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Hi Nicolas. Thanks for testing and the feedback. Since there was no other comments I'm marking this Fix Released. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Just tested the Hardy Heron Alpha6 release on LiveCD, and this bug seems to not appear anymore for me. The HDD (EIDE) emits the little park sound, about 2 sec before the system powers off. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
The Hardy Heron Alpha series was recently released which contains an updated version of the kernel. You can download and try the new Hardy Heron Alpha release from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/ . You should be able to then test the new kernel via the LiveCD. If you can, please verify if this bug still exists or not and report back your results. General information regarding the release can also be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ . Also note that this report will be kept open against the actively developed kernel but against 2.6.17 and 2.6.20 this will be closed. Thanks. ** Also affects: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.17 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I am assigning this bug to the 'ubuntu-kernel-team' per their bug policy. For future reference you can learn more about their bug policy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies . ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.17 (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Kernel Team (ubuntu-kernel-team) Target: edgy-updates = None -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
maybe it's a result of huge massives of file storing as you do in windows... i dont believe people suffer from that weird sound if they have an extra partion for large binary objects. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Power-Off_Retract_Count did not increase, is this mean the HDD park perfectly before power off?? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Yes I think it does. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Hope SO。 -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Perhaps you didn't go throuigh the instructions properly. Could you post the EXACT steps which you followed? By exact steps I mean complete with the values that apply for your computer. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Oh just so you know, it should be chmod +x /etc/rc0.d/S00hdd-shutdown- workaround. You're supposed to replace filename with the appropriate filename. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
keatliang2005, I think that a slight click on shutdown is perfectly normal. Still, the sound you are hearing may not be the usual shutdown click but the bug. As far as I know you can pretty easily make sure if you are suffering from the bug or not: 1)Go to terminal, press F11 (to achieve full screen view) and type: 2)sudo apt-get install smartmontools 3) sudo smartctl --device=ata --attributes /dev/sda (This command presumes that your hdd is indeed known as sda) 4)Now look at the raw value of Power-Off_Retract_Count 5) Shut your system down by typing 'sudo shutdown -h now' (yes, 'now' is needed in the command as it sets the time of the shutdown) Then wait until the system shuts down and start it up again 6) Now repeat steps 3-4 and see if the number has grown. If it has, there's definitely something wrong but if it hasn't everything is probably fine with the parking. Still, I have to say that I am definitely not an expert and so my conclusions may be wrong. It would be nice if someone would confirm my theory or state against it. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
erm.. is ok already the Power-Off_Retract_Count wont increase any more but the sound tick still present wired -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
The tick sound is probably during the proper shutdown of the hard disk. After all, the hard disk must park its read-head before it powers off so that in case of any jarring/jolting, the damages to the hard disk can be minimized. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Well the workaround which has been shown above works. I've a friend who had confirmed that it worked on his computer. Perhaps sometime soon the backports team will backport the Gutsy kernel over. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
It's nice to see the kernel change has fixed this issue but as you guys pointed out, it still exists in .20. Fiesty's support is supposed to last for some time and the bug-fixes should be kept active. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Yes, Dell inspiron 1420 also has a problem. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
This bug has been solved with the 2.6.22 kernel in all the distros I've tried that had the problem before. So if you are using any kernel that is older than that (gutsy is the first to carry it in the ubuntu line), then you are still going to experience the problem. AFAIK, no backporting was done on this fix. Meaning, either someone will need to backport it to feisty, or you'll have to upgrade to gutsy as soon as it's released. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Or you can upgrade to the beta now. There are very few issues left in Gutsy. After all, it'll be released in a week and a half from now. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
There are instructions to how to upgrade to gutsy's kernel on feisty on the ubuntuforums site. On 10/7/07, hyperair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you can upgrade to the beta now. There are very few issues left in Gutsy. After all, it'll be released in a week and a half from now. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Just to update this bug report - this issue is still apparent. I recently bought a pre-installed Ubuntu Dell laptop Inspiron 6400, and noticed that I had a 'dink' when using shutdown. A thread from the forums raised the issue (that I wasn't aware of), and following the advice in here, I have applied the temporary fix (it works!, thanks!). Here is the thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566072 Nick -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Lethe, if you bought a pre-installed Ubuntu laptop, then it's probably using Feisty. The bug seems to be gone in Gutsy, which in prerelease state. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I'm using a desktop with three IDE hard disks in it, all of which have been detected as /dev/sd* after the switch from Feisty to Gutsy. I can shutdown/hibernate/suspend with no problem. But then again, I've never experienced the clicking sound problem because all the previous kernels I used detected the hard disks as /dev/hd*. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
The problem happens with me too. Acer Aspire 1692 lmi, 1.73GHzM,Hard Disk hitachi 100GB,1GB ram memory, in my system the partitions appears like SDAx and not like in 6.10(hdax). Any one have a solution for this? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
raggar wrote: the kernel of Gutsy (2.6.22) solved the problem. ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released If 2.6.22 solves the problem, fine. But why does this lead to the status for linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) being changed from Confirmed to Fix Released? linux-source-2.6.20 is still broken, isn't it? Shouldn't it be changed to Won't Fix -- wait for Gutsy? Wouldn't that be more honest? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I think that changing the status of the bug is not accurate, feisty users are still affected by this problem and I think that if security bugs get fixed, critical bugs such as this one should be fixed as well. Gutsy is still on alpha stage and not a lot of people can upgrade the kernel manually, even less people know about the risk this bug implies. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I agree with the last two comments. The fact that this is fixed in the newest kernel is wonderful, but it is not a real fix for users of 2.6.20 on Feisty. Do we really want to recommend to users to add the gutsy sources to sources.list and update their kernel that way?? Some can do that, but we are also the ones who could apply fixes/patches other ways. The right thing to do, IMHO, is to return this bug to confirmed status until a real fix is released until 2.6.20 is patched in our repos, or backport 2.6.22. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Exactly. There are plenty of problems with Gutsy's kernel as I've heard and so it's not wise to think that upgrading to it is a wonderful solution and everyone who experience this bug should do that. Yes, I know that there are patches one can apply to its system to make the noise go away but: 1) There are quite a few users for whom the patches don't work for some reason or who are just not capable of applying them. 2) Most of the patches don't lose the noise on hibernation/suspend. 3)As said in previous comments: there are many users who aren't even aware of the problem so they can't fix it. What exactly is the technical difficulty with this bug that prevents the release of a proper patch? Kaur -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Not solved in 2.6.20 apparently. ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
the kernel of Gutsy (2.6.22) solved the problem. ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
(Inspiron 6000 Dell) I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.22+ last night and the soft-shutdown (through menu) works with no spinning sound anymore (and the button shutdown still does). However, the system make a loud spinning sound right after I remove my Buffalo external USB drive (even after I unmounted the drive before removal). It also make a smaller spinning sound when I remove flash drive from USB (and the flash drive light doesn't go off after remounting, either - although I don't remember if the light go off or not before my kernel upgrade). -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 here. Just want to confirm that it makes that clicking + long spinning noise at menu-shutdown in Dell Inspiron 6000, too. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Just to confirm, I have had this issue with all distros using 2.6.20.* and my Hitachi HD. The 2.6.22+ kernel has resolved this issue!! I used it with Fiesty and then upgraded to Gutsy tribe4. I will try Mint and Dream next and if I'm brave enough I'll try some RPM distros too. I hope this helps most of you if you have not already tried it. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
According to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=243021#c23, the Power-Off_Retract_Count seems to be the correct counter for how often your disk has undergone an emergency unload. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Happens the same with my laptop Dell Inspiron 1501 and using Feisty ~$ uname -a Linux laptop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I confirm this bug on a acer aspire 5601, I'm using feisty 7.04. ~$ uname -a Linux laptop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
** Changed in: linux (upstream) Status: Invalid = Fix Released -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
The Power-Off_Retract_Count of my drive (SATA) is 358, and considering that I have used Ubuntu 6.10 for nearly 6 months without a proper fix, I think that number makes sense. Thanks Ubuntu, I'll go for SSD next time. ;-P -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
System: IBM Thinkpad R40. Hard drive: Hitachi Travelstar 80GN, Model Number: IC25N040ATMR04. It's a PATA drive. I observed this noise for the first time in Ubuntu 7.04. I had no such problems with 6.06 or 6.10. Martin Koßler's workaround works fine. I'd like to cite from http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/85CC1FF9F3F11FE187256C4F0052E6B6/$file/80GNSpec2.0.pdf: --8---cut here---start-8--- Emergency unload is intended to be invoked in rare situations. Because this operation is inherently uncontrolled, it is more mechanically stressful than a normal unload. A single emergency unload operation is more stressful than 100 normal unloads. Use of emergency unload reduces the start/stop life of the drive at a rate at least 100 times faster than that of normal unload and may damage the drive. --8---cut here---end---8--- Is that what happens without Martin's patch? If so, it doesn't sound too good ... I guess the Power-Off_Retract_Count that one gets with sudo smartctl --device=ata --attributes /dev/sda tells how often the hard drive has gone through an emergency unload. Can somebody confirm that? The Power- Off_Retract_Count of my drive is 14, and I think that number would make sense. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
this is happening in my edgy install -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
For those who might assume this is a hardware issue; Ubuntu Edgy or Windows XP do not do this! Whether its actually causing damage or not it certainly sounds like it is - This should definately be a critical issue! -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Same for me on my Samsung X11 notebook like Tormod predicted. Does anyone know if theres a possibility to get the driver from the last kernel version again, e.g. through a option in /etc/modules or s.th. like that? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Martin, see comment #39 on that. But isn't your workaround in comment #57 a much easier solution? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Yes if I have to modify the initrd my workaround is much better so i'll restore it in rcS.d. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
After the latest update the problem came back again. The devices are mapped at /dev/sda and the bad sound is back again. And I cannot go back to the kernel before the update. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Someone can confirm me that the patch that add stop_on_shutdown is still in the latest ubuntu 2.6.20 kernel? Thanks -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
** Changed in: linux (upstream) Status: Confirmed = Rejected -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Rejected = Confirmed -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Hard drive now mapped to /dev/hda, but the fix didn't work for me. On 5/29/07, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Rejected = Confirmed -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
The problem seems to be fixed for me. With the latest kernel-update I noticed that my drive is mapped to /dev/hda again (instead of sda). So I removed the workaround (which would not effect the drive anyway since it doesnt show up /sys/class/scsi_disk/ anymore) and the hdd still shuts down properly. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Yes, confirmed. The problem is solved with the new kernel upgrade. ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
NO, unconfirm!!! Fix isn't working. Still have the hdd making noise when I shutdown the system. Also the harddisk still shows as /dev/sda. Martin + Jan what kernel are you running? I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with kernel 2.6.20-16-generic What did you do to get /dev/hda back? Thanks, More -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Just apt-get upgraded to kernel 2.6.20-16-generic ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
That is what I did this morning. We are on the same kernel. I'm running a Dell Inspiron 9400 with a Hitachi 80GB harddisk -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
If the reason it's fixed for Jan and Martin is that their disk drivers have been reverted to /dev/hda, I would not qualify it as bug resolved. It will then come back when your disk drivers are /dev/sda again, which they might be in a future kernel. That said, this issue will probably be solved correctly in the 2.6.22 Gutsy kernel. Until then the rest of us with /dev/sda drivers have to live with the above stop_on_shutdown workaround. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Fix doesn't work for everybody. ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Rejected -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
The problem is solved for me too. The hard drives are mapped at /dev/hda. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
My drives are still mapped at /dev/sda. I can't say if the fix has worked or not because I'm reluctant to turn off the stop_on_shutdown workaround, but I'm confident that since my drives are still mapped as sda, it hasn't worked for me either. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
The definitive patches [1] [2] have been merged in mainstream 2.6.22rc1. I opened the bug #114683 to request changes in upstart shutdown(8). [1] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9666f4009c22f6520ac3fb8a19c9e32ab973e828 [2] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=920a4b1038e442700a1cfac77ea7e20bd615a2c3 -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
@hetvliegend..., I'm linking it in rcS.d instead what you are doing in rc0.d Sxx means start during boot, kxx means kill during shutdown. When putting the script in rsS.d it is always run during startup and this means that the stop_on_shutdown parameter is always set. Doesn't matter if you shutdown, reboot, suspend or hibernate. More -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I have tried More's workaround and it indeed works for shutdown, suspend, and hibernate. (it never made a sound when rebooting) -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Same problem here with. The sound is like shuting down manually the laptop. The laptop has Intel Centrino 1.6G and Hitachi 40G hard drive (SCSI Device - ATA HITACHI_DK23FA-4). I had no problems with edgy and dapper. If I boot with edgy kernel (2.17) I still have no problems. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I tried the workaround of Martin and More. It didn't work for me. I made a file in /etc/init.d with the following two lines: #!/bin/sh echo 1 /sys/class/scsi_device/0\:0\:0\:0/stop_on_shutdown (only had to change scsi_disk for scsi_device) then sudo chmod +x filename sudo ln -s /etc/rc0.d/S99hdd-shutdown-workaround /etc/init.d/hdd-shutdown-workaround I guessed this didn't work because S99 meant it was called after S90halt so the computer was shutdown before. so I changed it to S00hdd- shutdown-workaround (like Martin wrote) but still nothing changed. I had no noise in Dapper, then noise in Edgy with kernel 2.6.17 but not with kernel 2.6.15, and still the noise in Feisty with kernel 2.6.20. I don't have this file (or directory?) /sys/class/scsi_disk/0\:0\:0\:0/stop_on_shutdown . only /sys/class/scsi_device/0\:0\:0\:0/ Am I missing something here? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I noticed something weird in phpsysinfo, which I do not know if it has to do with the bug or should I report a new one. With 2.6.17 the hd and cdrom are shown as IDE and with 2.6.20 as SCSI devices. Here are the interesting parts of the phpsysinfo. Model Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz Kernel Version 2.6.20-15-generic (SMP) SCSI Devices - ATA HITACHI_DK23FA-4 (Direct-Access) - COMPAL TSB24H1 DVD/CDRW (CD-ROM) Kernel Version 2.6.17-11-generic (SMP) IDE Devices - hdc: COMPAL TSB24H1 Slim DVD-ROM/CD-RW Drive - hda: HITACHI_DK23FA-40 (Capacity: 37.26 GB) -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
That works for me, Tormod, thank you. Maybe this script could be added as an intermediate solution, until a fix for the kernel can be released? It would be great to not have the disks smashed up. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Same problem to. feisty + asus laptop (M6v)... Thre strange situation is that with edgy i didn't have this kind of problem... Even with dapper -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I confirm the problem in Feisty Fawn, stock kernel from CD, happens both by hibernating and shutdown. The HD is a Samsung PATA 80Gb. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I confirm that in Feisty Fawn,using stock kernel.I have 2 WD HDDs..I tried the solution with the script but it only works for one of the disks.How can i do this for both of them?I didn't quite understand it :P -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Aramil, for more than one disk, try this: for disk in /sys/class/scsi_disk/* ; do echo 1 $disk/stop_on_shutdown ; done (BTW, I personally prefer to add this to /etc/rc.local, instead of creating a new script file) -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Early reports indicate that this patch likely does NOT solve the problem. The fact is that this is not a bug/regression of the kernel. It's a lack of feature. The early original patch here, http://www.nabble.com/(fwd)--PATCH--sd:-implement-stop_on_shutdown-t3049703.html , that was already merged, need mandatory changes in userspace, so changes to upstart shutdown(8) or workaround as described in some posts here. The definitive patches here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.scsi/30489 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/17392 are probably too much invasive to be merged in a stable, distro customized kernel, but don't need changes in userspace (beacuse they use a kernel-space workaround, already scheduled for removal). So, from a distro perspective, there are few options: 1) Keep original early patch and modify upstart shutdown(8) now (i was waiting for the definitive patches to be merged in 2.6.22-rc before submitting a bug to upstart...); 2) Merge the definitive patches; 3) || die From a user perspective, simply use the early patch (that should be already merged in ubuntu 2.6.20 kernel, right?) plus the workarounds described here by Martin Koßler and More. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
please try this immediately and report back? Which version of the kernel this patch apply? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Francesco Pretto wrote: please try this immediately and report back? Which version of the kernel this patch apply? Anything from about 2.6.18 onwards. Cheers -- Mark Lord Real-Time Remedies Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Mark Lord wrote: Francesco Pretto wrote: please try this immediately and report back? Which version of the kernel this patch apply? Anything from about 2.6.18 onwards. Early reports indicate that this patch likely does NOT solve the problem. Cheers -- Mark Lord Real-Time Remedies Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Early reports indicate that this patch likely does NOT solve the problem. Did not work for me on a fresh Ubuntu Feisty Fawn install but I'm sure you*ll make it work soon. :-) -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
We (libata kernel dudes) are working on a simpler kernel level fix for this now, which may not require any immediate changes to scripts. If anyone here can patch/rebuild kernels, then I have some code that needs testing before we queue it into 2.6.21, and then make it available for the Ubuntu kernel folks. Email me for the patch if you can retest with it more or less immediately. Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Oh, forgot we can do attachments here (duh!). This is one patch that's being considered, which should get rid of the pop. Can anyone here who has the problem please try this immediately and report back? Thanks ** Attachment added: xx_libata_sync_cache_fix.patch http://librarian.launchpad.net/7343806/xx_libata_sync_cache_fix.patch -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
This problem also exists on macbook C2Ds -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Hi all, The script from Martin Koßler works nice, but doesn't work on a Hibernate action. A better working solution for all runlevels, Hibernate and Suspend is to place the script in /ect/init.d/hdd-shutdown-workaround and softlink it to /etc/rcS.d/S99hdd-shutdown-workaround with the command: ln -s /etc/init.d/hdd-shutdown-workaround /etc/rcS.d/S99hdd-shutdown-workaround Do this as root user. This will set the noise less shutdown during startup and then all differtent shutdown options will work fine. More -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Thanks a lot Martin. The problem seems resolved. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Will these be merged to Ubuntu kernel: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.scsi/30489 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/17392 -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
BTW i'm having this problem on Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo M7440G -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Martin, thanks a lot for that tip! It shuts down nice and quietly now, using that /sys setting. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Martin or Tormod, can you guys e-mail that script to me? I'm still pretty new to Linux and I'm not exactly sure how I would go about writing a script to do such a command. You can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Simply write a file at /etc/rc0.d/S00hdd-shutdown-workaround which includes this two lines: #!/bin/sh echo 1 /sys/class/scsi_disk/0\:0\:0\:0/stop_on_shutdown If you have more than one directory at /sys/class/scsi_disk/ try to find out which of it is your internal harddisk (e.g. cat /sys/class/scsi_disk/a:b:c:d/device/model) If you have more than one harddisk add another line for each of them. Then make it executable (chmod +x filename) At the next shutdown it should park the hd heads. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Thanks, Martin. I created the script... but stupid me, I'm running Ubuntu Edgy which doesn't have the stop_on_shutdown patch implemented. Is it possible for someone to send me the patch, or do I have to upgrade the kernel? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
The noise that is being described sounds just like a disk-head being parked (these are the same laptop drives that say drive may rattle, this is normal on the label), and I'd be more worried if it /wasn't/ hasn't the disk-heads. It's quite satisfying to know that the heads have been 'clicked' into place. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://launchpad.net/bugs/67810 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Same for me on my Samsung X11 (HD: HM100JC) I managed it with a script in /etc/rc0.d/ which writes 1 to /sys/class/scsi_disk/0:0:0:0/stop_on_shutdown but this should only be a temporary workaround -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Same problem here. FS V2030 with Samsung SATA drive HM040HI. Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 kernel 2.6.17-11-generic. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Still the same with mine as well: Toshiba Satellite M55-S3314 on 2.6.20-14-generic -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Still present: 2.6.20-14-generic #2 SMP i686 GNU/Linux (Samsung P35 - HHD Samsung HM100JC 100gb) -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
kernel: 2.6.20-14-generic / Inspiron 8600 Bug is still present! -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I reopen the bug, because nothing has changed on my Acer, unfortunately not with 2.6.20-14-generic either. ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Are we in a holding pattern on this patch (i.e., are we waiting for the next kernel release) or do you know? I've been updating feisty all the way to this morning, and still no change. Wonder if this is going to come out on 2.6.22 or something? ~ Daniel R. Gilliam 2426 Stone Post Terrace Richmond, Virginia 23233 (804)364-1153 (h) (804)690-1407 (c) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Give me a stopwatch and a map, and I'll fly the Alps in a plane with no windows. --Mr. Kamarov, The Hunt for Red October ~ -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Just heard that Ubuntu Feisty beta is available. Is the bug fixed in that? -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://launchpad.net/bugs/67810 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Fixed in mainstream http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.scsi/30489 .
Lot of infrastructure here, probably 2.6.22 stuff? Please note that the
FULL fix will need shutdown(8) modifies, as described here
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/17392 .
In the same message is described a meantime workaround, that consist of
a temporary setting (already scheduled for removal) in the libata
module. Here the extract:
This patch implements module parameter libata.spindown_compat which,
when set to one (default value), prevents libata from spinning down
disks on shutdown thus avoiding double spinning down. Note that
libata spins down disks for suspend to mem and disk, so with
libata.spindown_compat set to one, disks should be properly spun down
in all cases without modifying shutdown(8).
shutdown(8) should be fixed eventually tho. Some drive do spin up on
SYNCHRONZE_CACHE even when their cache is clean. Those disks
currently spin up briefly when sd tries to shutdown the device and
then the machine powers off immediately, which can't be good for the
head. We can't skip SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE during shudown as it can be
dangerous data integrity-wise.
So, this spindown_compat parameter is already scheduled for removal by
the end of the next year and here's what shutdown(8) should do.
1. Check whether /sys/modules/libata/parameters/spindown_compat
exists. If it does, write 0 to it.
For each libata harddisk {
2. Check whether /sys/class/scsi_disk/h:c:i:l/manage_start_stop
exists. If so, write 1 to it and continue; otherwise, fall
through to #3.
3. Synchronize cache and spin down as before.
}
If i can ask, is there a mainstream for shutdown(8) or it vary between
distros?
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[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://launchpad.net/bugs/67810 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Tried 2.6.20-13-generic (which has the stop_on_shutdown) on an Acer TravelMate 8101, and it still makes that ugly, loud sound at shutdown. BTW the sound has nothing to do with the little rattle that comes when the disk hasn't been used for a while (for instance after halting in grub), which I though was the parking sound. I have tried to record it, but my recording gear is not good enough. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://launchpad.net/bugs/67810 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
I was promised that a fix will eventually arrive. It would take longer because a code refactory of the libata layer was in program. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://launchpad.net/bugs/67810 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
Patch for stop_on_shutdown was added. This bug isn't very critical, IMO. The bug is just annoying, there's no danger to the drives (no matter how the thing sounds when it stops). ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Kernel Team = Ben Collins Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://launchpad.net/bugs/67810 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 67810] Re: bad hard disk noise on shutdown
you can still use the 2.6.15 kernel; works fine on my edgy and shutdown is done properly. -- bad hard disk noise on shutdown https://launchpad.net/bugs/67810 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
