Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Ubuntu Server seeded package review
On 3 December 2013 22:50, Barry Warsaw ba...@ubuntu.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Dec 03, 2013, at 04:33 PM, James Page wrote: As part of tidying for the next LTS release, the Server Team are proposing a review of server released seeded packages that are currently in Ubuntu main (proposed changes tracked in [0] for now). Continuing to demote Python 2, we want to get rid of it on server[*] if at all possible. For example, I've identified byobu, landscape-common, and vim as three packages with `Task: server` pulling in Python 2.7. For byobu, we have LP: #1253458, currently waiting on some feedback from Dustin. For vim, we have http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729924 currently waiting on feedback from Debian Vim maintainers. I'm not a Vim user, but if you want to help test this, a package is available in my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/experimental Based on your feedback, I'd be willing to temporarily get ahead of Debian here. landscape-client may be trickier because that gets us into some Twisted packages, which aren't yet packaged for Python 3. What portion of landscape-client is on the server-cd? For example on the desktop CDs, we only have landscape-client-ui-install which is a small shim that bootstraps / installs the rest of the landscape support packages from the archive. If on the server CD, it's not a small shim yet, maybe we can make it to be as such (and in python3) ? Regards, Dmitrijs. -- Ubuntu-cloud mailing list Ubuntu-cloud@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cloud
Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Ubuntu Server seeded package review
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM, James Page james.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Folks As part of tidying for the next LTS release, the Server Team are proposing a review of server released seeded packages that are currently in Ubuntu main (proposed changes tracked in [0] for now). Here's the initial review of seeds, and some proposed moves and drops we are considering: Branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/view/head:/server Description: Default server install whoopsie (ack'ed by ev) wireless-tools wpasupplicant http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/view/head:/server-ship Description: Server ISO image nut, nut-cgi, nut-snmp (move to supported-misc-servers) likewise-open (largely unmaintained in distro - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LikewiseOpen) powernap, powernap-server (still revelvant?) No objection from me (co-maintainer) to drop PowerNap from the ISO. It's still easy to get post installation. quagga (maybe move to supported-misc-servers) backuppc python-beautifulsoup python-genshi (will be pulled into main via supported-misc-servers ... python-pecan) whoopsie (ack'ed by ev) mutt http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/view/head:/cloud-image Description: Default cloud-image install whoopsie (ack'ed by ev) tasksel (drops aptitude etc.) euca2ools (move to supported-misc-servers) Branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.trusty http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.trusty/view/head:/supported-misc-servers Description: Other supported stuff which is not on the ISO No candidates identified And a few other packages that we'd like to not be part of the cloud images (which include the 'cloud-image' and 'server' seeds). These are not explicitly listed in either of these seeds but are pulled in due to dependencies or Recommends. ppp usbutils os-prober aptitude memtest86 ... and discuss! I'd like to land any changes early in 2014 prior to feature freeze. Cheers James [0] http://pad.ubuntu.com/server-seed-review - -- James Page Ubuntu and Debian Developer james.p...@ubuntu.com jamesp...@debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSngfVAAoJEL/srsug59jDDG4QAJbbX1aii7pw1mOVliFOjrHc uDunTZ3acW9dpCL2CdnkHc1TDnEMczko/7Rm8VhdNqENkUc7Z3V6NEaq7itgG/a2 w6dyszKm8c8MWvnr6lTpor1Hjb+7qomRZdqbQyQZGPCxQyrLbDR62ggEqYztVf36 glatqylywKRIYhSdTCjD7OteDi9Sur76JOdmAkng+BsjWTnxFQgjju19qpl3MDvm iOzmd2WQk0GAGQWmrU/8UrKwjglPD+qXJpRjpdSQ3N2iKZRzW3XRXoXMlybqalJC dkXnfaDSv8sJsFZXatEA6T/3zcpZaByRcdxpEq8aP+EMTov1F6kDtBrXLfWquQGU V9BRRbfQCA+xPci9lqpcaRha1boFCGTDbp8zOpPhWUoJQzbUS/x1aKjrSggbRj+v jvrpPxsDud2xOVEcl5rIpmjEkv1YLTh0AVJL1rMI/CvXXvA52dlMwy2qoxN+i4JW PHMWVH6M29lNfO37/n3uloznVlNde+qR1uuUkZyzd86piHOReTUejUS+Cw5DxtAl EJooyuT/6eKVx2gY/MvkAWAiOxVXaHl8NaGr/l7sIZTOgL4eYw4flI1Z87X2O7X5 fUM9iHX31wU8+jIjEehjeOWWaPNJ1WNMS+L8T9SiqCjy+PHvHAajhWd1hUrLiKs8 HYRLA2uA4Zlf2pOuA6CL =fbfY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- Ubuntu-cloud mailing list Ubuntu-cloud@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cloud
Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Ubuntu Server seeded package review
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@ubuntu.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Dec 03, 2013, at 04:33 PM, James Page wrote: As part of tidying for the next LTS release, the Server Team are proposing a review of server released seeded packages that are currently in Ubuntu main (proposed changes tracked in [0] for now). Continuing to demote Python 2, we want to get rid of it on server[*] if at all possible. For example, I've identified byobu, landscape-common, and vim as three packages with `Task: server` pulling in Python 2.7. For byobu, we have LP: #1253458, currently waiting on some feedback from Dustin. This is incurring a bit of work for me upstream, in trying to continue producing a Byobu orig tarball that runs everywhere (back to Ubuntu 12.04, weird UNIXes, weird Linuxes)... But you have my commitment that it will be fixed for Ubuntu 14.04. Thanks ;-) For vim, we have http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729924 currently waiting on feedback from Debian Vim maintainers. I'm not a Vim user, but if you want to help test this, a package is available in my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/experimental Based on your feedback, I'd be willing to temporarily get ahead of Debian here. landscape-client may be trickier because that gets us into some Twisted packages, which aren't yet packaged for Python 3. See also (and add anything missing!): https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-python3-roadmap http://tinyurl.com/mmj4y6a http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/view/head:/server-ship Description: Server ISO image nut, nut-cgi, nut-snmp (move to supported-misc-servers) likewise-open (largely unmaintained in distro - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LikewiseOpen) powernap, powernap-server (still revelvant?) Looks like powernap still depends on Python 2. quagga (maybe move to supported-misc-servers) backuppc python-beautifulsoup Whatever is pulling this one in should be ported to python3-bs4, or at least python-bs4 since afaict beautifulsoup 3 is no longer being actively maintained upstream (critical bug fixes only according to them). python-genshi (will be pulled into main via supported-misc-servers ... Upstream 0.7 supports Python 3, but not yet Debian - BTS #731280. python-pecan) Upstream 0.4.2 supports Python 3, but not yet Debian - BTS #731283. Cheers, - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSnmBKAAoJEBJutWOnSwa/6vsP/jNdnhx9xIM7HiNvgaL0QIr0 DTuZwxL87E086hdDY0X8fqTf/vT+Xo+zecuHwedePIOL8BZlA/mWX8Bsge7nQc3g 1jInf6rBR6qNMgEos1gh/5xTJgvq+WS7zLLrPwabejWmOlyT7R13mPEEuJ5ozBfC G8QcH5Hl61B84SbTd2Pfxjfr+ae6gxsfuqhQcYJ4JuIQ5EIvSV0txvG2tRJuUaCG AXGg3kiX4IbjeKIMIr4MO9YRlNhgJTp1QR8j4wsZU8yH3xyjukOeBd5jlD+zItT8 ZlCVdiXZaPR3qsBNIZTszVQ8W00h6515BOhdW/RydmyzA/bf15usaJPImlJjpQ0d AWEpsO3a9RlKzJBmfiwNYAkUPBd+xRNT0DVDRF+XhVrUJLhee/U3VUl6luzu2I1V rYC0XU8TneEp92D0XNHM9IyNft0/UyfYQbioTBfb2NBnPRoa6pR25JsPMpod4fBW KBGvAcSg3Xkir7yghCQLNKIE5K6wb3gLufOXTjqnMSjajOk4NnRfI3hBHoiXMkh+ 0fmkwpWHUeYbF7Hol+DYC297Nd/AbYxBfaE2FnC0ElE9Y6tjs/o9krarRtEX1Ay0 kIYDTRMUBSMRhjm5TGY7LPKeOdMZHXfUTf75vtKdSecHk9Gt4hOvqR2J1Wh7nj82 Vf7zIIz9Rl37N2JU8Hwe =A7DV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- Ubuntu-cloud mailing list Ubuntu-cloud@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cloud