Re: Checking /usr/local/ before upgrading

2007-10-30 Thread Milan
(Please don't kill me for intervening in this thread. :-) )

Vincenzo Ciancia a écrit :
 I expected anything out of this thread, but people defending the idea
 that keeping /usr/local/lib in the library path during system upgrades
 is a good idea. I can accept to have problems *after* the upgrade, but
 not to be left with an unusable system just because I had stuff in
 /usr/local and that's my fault.
   
Maybe there's no reason to fight over that, but I think this can be a
good idea. Are there any drawbacks of temporarily removing /usr/lib from
lib path before upgrading? In any case, this can help to make the
process work as expected by the developers.

I had recently such an experience with old GNUnet libs in /usr/local
that blocked it; not a big deal, but disabling them would have allowed
my update to go flawlessly. Many may be frightened by apt inconsistency
errors.

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Re: Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-30 Thread Jan Claeys
Op zondag 28-10-2007 om 14:17 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Martin
Olsson:
 For a developer this is is very natural; user prefs vs system-wide.
 However, I doubt that most non-technical end users will perceive this
 split as naturally. I know for sure that my mom wouldn't understand
 why she needs to enter a password to change the clock and no password
 to change the desktop wallpaper.

I'm sure your mother knows that children (or more general, people with
lesser experience) should not be allowed to tamper with dangerous
tools...   ;-)

(You might have to explain the dangers to her though, if she's not
experienced with them herself.)


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