Re: Ubuntu boot speed fall in Hardy
Le mercredi 14 mai 2008 à 18:10 -0400, Phillip Susi a écrit : Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 02:17 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: Il giorno dom, 11/05/2008 alle 17.32 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan ha scritto: On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 10:40 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote I wish I could configure what it considers low. You can: just launch gconf-editor and take a look at apps/gnome-power-manager/thresholds. It claims it hibernates when 2 minutes remain. It lies. Sounds like you need to replace your worn out battery pack then. Or just increase it to 5 minutes and see if that buys you enough time. Normally, gnome-power-manager should detect the real time left, and not only what the batteries claim. But if you never let the battery go until 0% without trying to stop the machine, I cannot see a way for g-p-m to calibrate that, since when your computer will shut down in the middle of the hibernation process, g-p-m has already been stopped. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: 1. Unabel to unmount/eject CD/DVD ?
Olá Matthew e a todos. On Wednesday 14 May 2008 21:03:13 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: That's a much better explanation than the error message. Cheers -- Matthew Paul Thomas Yes, the message wont explain it in enough detail to the end user. It even scares him. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: 1. Unabel to unmount/eject CD/DVD ?
Olá Arvind e a todos. On Tuesday 13 May 2008 13:34:03 Arvind K wrote: Yesterday I was met, with what I think is one of the most stupid bugs I ever found. When I tried to eject a DVDr, either using nautilus tools or the drive eject button, an error popup showed up, telling me that I wasn't root. WTF, now I can't even eject CDs? I had a look at my user permitions and all looked sound, so what am I doing wrong, or is this a bug? Hi Fernado, Its not a bug,the case you mentioned happens when the process using your cd-rom isn't killed properly(or isn't killed at all),leaving the system thinking that the cd is still in use.. No other app was using the DVD ROM. Just plain old Nautilus... Microsoft address this situations by either closing the explorer window, or moving up a level. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Problem with yum etc after installing Ubuntu 7.10.....
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Christopher Halse Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, I'm don't think that installing programs through yum is a good idea on an Ubuntu system. I may be wrong here, though. Why do we even have that package? :) First thank you to everyone here...I am new in this Ubuntu. Firstly i have two requirements: a. I need git to do linux kernel development. b. I need flash for my firefox. So I downloaded the rpm file. So in Fedora Core, normally I will do yum install xxx.rpm where xxx.rpm is the downloaded flash rpm file from adobe, and yum automatically will do a recursive download of all dependent packages and install it at the same time. rpm cannot do that. Sorry for all these...for flash I think I found the answer in: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy and for the kernel I found it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide Ok...problem solvedthank you for the guide on git-core everyone ...etc! -- Regards, Peter Teoh -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Making apt-get powercut-proof
If you're amenable to extra scripts being suggested, I'll submit a bug report(s) as and when it's relevant. You're right about requiring a user choice, but I'm a bit concerned that users are going to be confronted with a collection of options that they don't understand, where one of them is known to be the right choice, but they have to poke about until they find it. How would you feel about adding a mechanism to do a quick check before showing the menu, then putting (recommended) next to one of the choices? In the case of the current choices, my suggestion would be that fsck be recommended if `touch /` returns false (i.e. read-only root filesystem, even if /etc/mtab denies it), else dpkg is recommended if apt or dpkg lock files exist (I assume they use lock files?), else xfix is recommended (it uses dpkg, so can't be run until dpkg is happy). The root shell would never be recommended, because people that want a shell don't need to be told. If you're happy with this idea, I can submit a skeleton implementation if you'd like. - Andrew -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Problem with yum etc after installing Ubuntu 7.10.....
Hi, On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 01:01:14PM +0800, Peter Teoh wrote: a. install ubuntu b. apt-get install yum* c. apt-get install git Next I tried git, I got command not found, but reattempted to apt-get install git will give me: Try: apt-cache show git dpkg -L git apt-cache search git This might have made you aware that you need package git-core, not package git. Also, I don't know about you, but when I type git, I get: $ git The program 'git' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install git-core bash: git: command not found I tried to yum install some other stuff, I got the following: There was a problem importing one of the Python modules required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was: No module named cElementTree Please install a package which provides this module, or verify that the module is installed correctly. Well, you need package python-celementtree. It sounds like there's a bug in the yum package, as it should obviously have a dependency on this package, and doesn't. So: apt-get install python-celementtree And: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yum/+filebug Anyway, why on Earth are you installing yum? I think you'll find that APT is generally a better choice on Debian/Ubuntu. It's possible that the above module doesn't match the current version of Python, which is: 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Oct 5 2007, 13:36:32) Which is not an issue on Debian/Ubuntu, as we have two competing systems that solve this problem (python-support, pycentral). Can someone help? Hope this helps, however, in the future you probably ought to take support requests to ubuntu-users. -Forest -- Forest Bond http://www.alittletooquiet.net http://www.pytagsfs.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu boot speed fall in Hardy
Olá Markus e a todos. On Saturday 10 May 2008 16:34:55 Markus Hitter wrote: How would one notice? Is Hardys hibernating/standby still so flaky one is forced to shut down the computer more than once a month? You're lucky. I reboot mine once every 2/3 days... after that, GDM slows down to a crawl, sound goes way, and system slows down. Maybe such questions appear not serious to some and maybe it even looks like I want to disencourage you, but I'd be much more concerned about standby stability as about boot times. +1. Markus -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu boot speed fall in Hardy
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Wednesday 14 May 2008 05:14:51 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: The results of using Bootchart to map the GNOME startup process, for the many users that did it, consistently showed gnome-panel as the culprit. How does one use bootchart to map GNOME? mine ends on X11. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
kill switch on with intel wifi 4965
I'm sorry to bring noise about Hardy, on a list now meant to Intrepid, but unable to find how to fix this in any other way, so if any dev could lend me an hand it would be great. I know this is not Ubuntu fault, but manufactors, but still, I know we can fix this. I've bough a new laptop (an ASmobile S37S, asus barebone) that has an Intel 4965 ABGN. I've search ubuntu foruns, lp, and googled all I could, but am unable to make the kill switch off, in order to turn the wifi on. The card is well identified by the kernel, but there is no way to make it seen to NetworkManager, or even turning on the led. Also when I tried to use ndiswrapper, it cause a back trace during the boot, and I was forced to use the LiveCD to uninstall it. $ uname -a Linux BluBUG 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 13:57:17 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ sudo rmmod iwl4965 $ sudo modprobe iwl4965 $ sudo lspci | grep 4965 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61) is this in anyway related? http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1209 [quote] --- Comment #44 From Jack Malmostoso 2008-01-22 03:00:28 --- I have installed 2.6.24-rc8 from the Debian trunk tree (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel) and while leds do not work, the kill switch is now set to 0. It is still not possible to toggle it but at least now wireless works. [/quote] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240116#c4 Comment #4 From John W. Linville on 2007-05-15 14:58 EST [quote] Looks like iwl3945 is not polling SW-based RF kill switch. Please try this: echo 0 /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/rf_kill [/quote] before this I need to remove and re-add the iwl4965 module after the echo NetworkManager sees the wifi, but ifconfig doesn't. I've installed boot chart to see if I could track down the problem. You can see the result here: http://fileland.bugabundo.net/Linux/hardy-20080513-1.png It seems that the Led turns of when X starts, so my guess is that some RC script is turning off the led and/or on the kill switch. I've open a LP ticket for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/230844 Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Making apt-get powercut-proof
Hi, On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:06:35PM +0100, Andrew Sayers wrote: That's a pretty handy tool - would you be interested in an option to start the remote recovery that's being discussed in a nearby thread? The design of friendly-recovery makes it easy to drop-in scripts, I wasn't following this thread, but it would certainly be possible to drop in something into /usr/share/recovery-mode/options that is then available in the recovery menu. Also, how would you feel if I suggested the options/dpkg script to the APT development team as the basis for an init script? I don't expect it would add more than a few seconds to boot time (or less if there's a lockfile that they can check for the existence of), and it would tackle the specific issue I had, where the problem presented as a missing home directory, and only turned out to be a package installation issue after much investigation. I would prefer to make the package repair a explicit choice by the user. It may require manual input (conffile questions, debconf prompts, maintainer script prompts) so it is safer to handle when we know that a human is available. update-manager has support to deal with most brokeness in the packages system nowdays (interrupted dpkg, broken dependencies, packages in req-reinstall state, ...) and update-notifier will display a error symbol that will call update-manager. That should cover most of the desktop use-cases. The friendly-reocvery package with dpkg repair mode is now also available in hardy-proposed and should become available to hardy-updates soonish. Thanks, Michael -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default
Hi Colin, I presume that you did not instruct the installer to format the old /home partition? (If you did, then why?) Actually yes, and I never realised how dumb it was until I read your message. I just was used to formatting before installing, so I guess I never gave it any thought. So, what is supposed to happen if you do NOT check the format box? Is everything but your /home destroyed, or is anything else kept? Probably a dumb question, but I've never done it so I can't know. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default
Hi again, I should also point out (because I gave out misinformation on IRC in a moment of inattention) that this only works when you're using the manual partitioner and select a partition to mount as /, or equivalent. If you use the automatic partitioner and select use entire disk, then that's equivalent to wiping the whole drive and starting again. I really would like to discuss this. I think this would make sense in some cases, like having several distros coexisting in the same disk for example. But what if there is just ONE partition, with Ubuntu on it? In that case, why shouldn't /home be kept? My original proposal was intended for total newbies, the kind of people who would be afraid of the manual partitioner. I think your solution should especially help that kind of people, and that keeping /home if there is only one partition would be the right way to do so. That aside, I opened a thread about the issue at ubuntuforums. The members seem a bit uneasy about it, saying that it might bring problems. I think it would be good if you guys came over and shed some light on it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=793772 this is the link. Thanks again :) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Problem with yum etc after installing Ubuntu 7.10.....
Peter Teoh wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Christopher Halse Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, I'm don't think that installing programs through yum is a good idea on an Ubuntu system. I may be wrong here, though. Why do we even have that package? :) First thank you to everyone here...I am new in this Ubuntu. Firstly i have two requirements: a. I need git to do linux kernel development. sudo apt-get install git-core b. I need flash for my firefox. So I downloaded the rpm file. sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree -FFM signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles
ke, 2008-05-14 kello 02:11 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan kirjoitti: Could a list of vendors who make crappy hard drives (ie ones with this issue) be made so we all can avoid them? I can say my Western Digitals don't have the issue, though they do have a tendency to die anyway (bad sectors and dead circuitry, no clicking or oddly high disk i/o). Don't all vendors occasionally make bad hardware? I know that I've had bad disks from IBM/Hitachi, Seagate, WD, and Maxtor, at least. (Not all of them laptop disks, though.) (My philosophical stance is that all hardware is not just bad, but evil, and actively designed to make your life a misery, but let's ignore that, for now. My question above is serious.) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
libraries cyclic dependency
Hi, i'm working on dapper distro and need to install libqt3-mt-dev which depends on a whole big list of other libraries. when trying to install some of these libraries I got to a cyclic dependency which i don't know how to deal with. x11proto-xext-dev depends on libxi-dev which depends on libxext-dev which depends on x11proto-xext-dev (here starts the cycle) Therefore i should ask for your expertise in solving this issue. Thanks in advance. Pedro -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:29:44 -0400 Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which package would this be filed against? I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist bug against Ubuntu to provide a way to check for this/suggest changes to avoid problematic filenames, but there is nothing inherently defective with the current behavior. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist bug against Ubuntu to provide a way to check for this/suggest changes to avoid problematic filenames, but there is nothing inherently defective with the current behavior. Scott K I agree that there is no inherent problem with the Ubuntu code, and it should really be up to Windows to support more characters. However I can think of several situations where this could cause considerable problems for the end user. We should at the very least provide a warning that Naming a file on this partition with any of the following characters will prevent Windows from opening it. Are you sure you want to continue? Evan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!
On Thursday 15 May 2008 21:31, Evan wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist bug against Ubuntu to provide a way to check for this/suggest changes to avoid problematic filenames, but there is nothing inherently defective with the current behavior. Scott K I agree that there is no inherent problem with the Ubuntu code, and it should really be up to Windows to support more characters. However I can think of several situations where this could cause considerable problems for the end user. We should at the very least provide a warning that Naming a file on this partition with any of the following characters will prevent Windows from opening it. Are you sure you want to continue? Evan Personally I'm against such hand holding. If any such feature is provided, I think it should be off by default. I happen to have some legacy FAT32 and NTFS partitions for various reasons, but the odds that they will ever be read from Windows are very low. I don't think Ubuntu's design should be predicated on the idea that it's an adjunct to using Windows. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: libraries cyclic dependency
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 00:06 +0100, Pedro Brito Cruz wrote: Hi, i'm working on dapper distro and need to install libqt3-mt-dev which depends on a whole big list of other libraries. when trying to install some of these libraries I got to a cyclic dependency which i don't know how to deal with. If you're doing these manually, not from apt, just do sudo dpkg -i *.deb -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 21:14 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: but there is nothing inherently defective with the current behavior. I'd agree for any other fs, but the only reason you would use an ntfs partition is because you want to read this in windows. Thus it makes little sense to allow creating filenames that prevent it. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!
On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:36:54 +0200 Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: þÿOn Thu, 2008-05-15 at 21:14 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: but there is nothing inherently defective with the current behavior. I'd agree for any other fs, but the only reason you would use an ntfs partition is because you want to read this in windows. Thus it makes little sense to allow creating filenames that prevent it. Or the system previously had Windows on it. Doesn't wubi install Ubuntu into an existing Windows partition? I don't think it's good design to make assumptions about O/S based on file systems. I think it makes little sense to expend effort to add such hand holding 'features'. If someone does add something (while I don't see the value, who am I to tell you not to volunteer if you do), all I ask is that it not be inflicted on users by default. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 00:50 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Doesn't wubi install Ubuntu into an existing Windows partition? Exactly. And then Ubuntu will happily let you create files that you can't read in Windows. It's weird. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!
On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:53:35 +0200 Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: þÿOn Fri, 2008-05-16 at 00:50 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Doesn't wubi install Ubuntu into an existing Windows partition? Exactly. And then Ubuntu will happily let you create files that you can't read in Windows. It's weird. It just ocurred to me that when you email files, odds are the receiver is using Windows. Perhaps all the mail clients should be patched with similar warnings? That's probably a lot more common than copying from one partition to another. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
