Re: Backup application in default install
Evan wrote: I believe Deja-Dup was originally started for the purpose of becoming default. At the very least, it is simple, useful and actively developed. https://launchpad.net/deja-dup This program is absolutely excellent! I am amazed by how much power there is in an application that is so incredibly simple. The GUI is very professional as well. This seems like an ideal candidate to be included in Ubuntu by default. I have already switched all of my machines to using it. 2010/1/27 Flávio Etrusco flavio.etru...@gmail.com Is there a bug entry for this? My understanding is that this sort of change belongs in a spec, rather than a bug, which is why I mentioned that many specs have been written and come to nothing. It would be great to get an opinion on this from someone at Ubuntu. What is the best way to get something done here? Regards, Aaron -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
2010/1/29 Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com: one can shift-alt-tab to move back 1 spot in the list of apps you're alt-tabbing through.. can ubuntu do the same? by default, please? It does. (At least with Metacity, not sure about Compiz as I haven't used that for ages). -- Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals (RainCT) Free Software Developer 363DEAE3 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 13:58, Siegfried-A. Gevatter siggi.gevat...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/29 Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com: one can shift-alt-tab to move back 1 spot in the list of apps you're alt-tabbing through.. can ubuntu do the same? by default, please? It does. (At least with Metacity, not sure about Compiz as I haven't used that for ages). I don't think it does by default in Compiz. That's the default window manager for Ubuntu if the hardware is capable, so it's pretty important. In Compiz you can also not use Ctrl-Alt-Tab to switch to panels. -- Remco -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
In Compiz there is an amazing feature different than alt+tab which iswinkey+tab and in this case winkey+shift+tab also works... I said amazing not for it effect but for the making usage of the winkey that exists in almost all keyboards and tends to be useless, so this feature make it a bit useful ... -- Amahdy AbdElAziz IT Development Manager 3D Diagnostix Inc. www.3ddx.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/amahdyabdelaziz On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 17:38, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 13:58, Siegfried-A. Gevatter siggi.gevat...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/29 Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com: one can shift-alt-tab to move back 1 spot in the list of apps you're alt-tabbing through.. can ubuntu do the same? by default, please? It does. (At least with Metacity, not sure about Compiz as I haven't used that for ages). I don't think it does by default in Compiz. That's the default window manager for Ubuntu if the hardware is capable, so it's pretty important. In Compiz you can also not use Ctrl-Alt-Tab to switch to panels. -- Remco -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
On 29 January 2010 17:36, Amahdy mrjava.java...@gmail.com wrote: In Compiz there is an amazing feature different than alt+tab which iswinkey+tab and in this case winkey+shift+tab also works... This is not enabled by default. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 17:38, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 13:58, Siegfried-A. Gevatter siggi.gevat...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/29 Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com: I don't think it does by default in Compiz. That's the default window manager for Ubuntu if the hardware is capable, so it's pretty important. In Compiz you can also not use Ctrl-Alt-Tab to switch to panels. -- It is indeed down to the static window switcher in Compiz. On a new install Shift-Alt-Tab does not work - whereas on my CCSM-customised desktop it works fine. So it's just a setting that needs to be switched. Jonathon -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
I'm not sure but for me under my 9.10 upgraded from 9.04 upgraded from 8.10, it works without changing anything ... -- Amahdy AbdElAziz IT Development Manager 3D Diagnostix Inc. www.3ddx.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/amahdyabdelaziz On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 19:42, Jonathon Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.comwrote: On 29 January 2010 17:36, Amahdy mrjava.java...@gmail.com wrote: In Compiz there is an amazing feature different than alt+tab which iswinkey+tab and in this case winkey+shift+tab also works... This is not enabled by default. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Focus of the introduction for programmers
Hello, Often there's someone who knows some programming and asks how (s)he can help Ubuntu. Currently those people are mostly referred to the MOTU: packaging. However, I'm not so sure if directing all programmers to packaging is the best solution. Some people just want to write code and the MOTU is not the right place to do this. Maybe the introduction for developers should also mention the possibilities for contributing code as well as packages. This would require a wiki page providing a clear overview of all different projects in Ubuntu you could contribute to, so it's easy to find what projects you could work on. Regards, -- Sense Hofstede [ˈsɛn.sə ˈɦɔf.steːdə] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Focus of the introduction for programmers
Hey Sense, Perhaps the problem is that inside the Ubuntu project there aren't a great number of development projects that new users can just dive right into. Basically anything to do with bzr, launchpad, ubiquity or the handful of other little extras that help the Ubuntu distribution. Most programmer imagine working on applications, or other more visible things. The Ubuntu project it's self isn't the right place for that, we need to go upstream, it's the wider FLOSS community that should be promoted. Sure their work will benefit Ubuntu in the end, but it's worth noting the difference between Ubuntu's development efforts and upstream's. Martin, On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 19:00 +0100, Sense Hofstede wrote: Hello, Often there's someone who knows some programming and asks how (s)he can help Ubuntu. Currently those people are mostly referred to the MOTU: packaging. However, I'm not so sure if directing all programmers to packaging is the best solution. Some people just want to write code and the MOTU is not the right place to do this. Maybe the introduction for developers should also mention the possibilities for contributing code as well as packages. This would require a wiki page providing a clear overview of all different projects in Ubuntu you could contribute to, so it's easy to find what projects you could work on. Regards, -- Sense Hofstede [ˈsɛn.sə ˈɦɔf.steːdə] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
Rene, Please open a launchpad bug requesting SHIFT-ALT-TAB as default. Then click Also affects project on that bug and search for the hundredpapercuts project, if that doesn't work just try to click Subscribe someone else and enter djsiegel and explain in a comment that you'd like the bug to be considered as a papercut. Martin Amahdy wrote: I'm not sure but for me under my 9.10 upgraded from 9.04 upgraded from 8.10, it works without changing anything ... -- Amahdy AbdElAziz IT Development Manager 3D Diagnostix Inc. www.3ddx.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/amahdyabdelaziz On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 19:42, Jonathon Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.comwrote: On 29 January 2010 17:36, Amahdy mrjava.java...@gmail.com wrote: In Compiz there is an amazing feature different than alt+tab which iswinkey+tab and in this case winkey+shift+tab also works... This is not enabled by default. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
Ok, should i open for compiz + hundredpapercuts? On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Martin Olsson mn...@minimum.se wrote: Rene, Please open a launchpad bug requesting SHIFT-ALT-TAB as default. Then click Also affects project on that bug and search for the hundredpapercuts project, if that doesn't work just try to click Subscribe someone else and enter djsiegel and explain in a comment that you'd like the bug to be considered as a papercut. Martin Amahdy wrote: I'm not sure but for me under my 9.10 upgraded from 9.04 upgraded from 8.10, it works without changing anything ... -- Amahdy AbdElAziz IT Development Manager 3D Diagnostix Inc. www.3ddx.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/amahdyabdelaziz On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 19:42, Jonathon Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.comwrote: On 29 January 2010 17:36, Amahdy mrjava.java...@gmail.com wrote: In Compiz there is an amazing feature different than alt+tab which iswinkey+tab and in this case winkey+shift+tab also works... This is not enabled by default. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
On 29 January 2010 17:55, Amahdy mrjava.java...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure but for me under my 9.10 upgraded from 9.04 upgraded from 8.10, it works without changing anything ... On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 19:42, Jonathon Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 January 2010 17:36, Amahdy mrjava.java...@gmail.com wrote: In Compiz there is an amazing feature different than alt+tab which iswinkey+tab and in this case winkey+shift+tab also works... This is not enabled by default. There must have been a setting change somewhere. I have a clean vanilla Karmic install running in a VM (was messing around with Android SDK) which I'm using as a reference point (the native Lucid install on my laptop has a /home that's come with me from sometime around the Feisty herds - so the settings aren't anywhere near default!). Jonathon -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
Rene Veerman wrote: Ok, should i open for compiz + hundredpapercuts? Yes, try booting the LiveCD to verify it's actually a problem with the _default_ configuration. And then use the terminal command ubuntu-bug compiz to open the bug report. Martin On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Martin Olsson mn...@minimum.se wrote: Rene, Please open a launchpad bug requesting SHIFT-ALT-TAB as default. Then click Also affects project on that bug and search for the hundredpapercuts project, if that doesn't work just try to click Subscribe someone else and enter djsiegel and explain in a comment that you'd like the bug to be considered as a papercut. Martin Amahdy wrote: I'm not sure but for me under my 9.10 upgraded from 9.04 upgraded from 8.10, it works without changing anything ... -- Amahdy AbdElAziz IT Development Manager 3D Diagnostix Inc. www.3ddx.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/amahdyabdelaziz On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 19:42, Jonathon Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.comwrote: On 29 January 2010 17:36, Amahdy mrjava.java...@gmail.com wrote: In Compiz there is an amazing feature different than alt+tab which iswinkey+tab and in this case winkey+shift+tab also works... This is not enabled by default. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Focus of the introduction for programmers
2010/1/29 Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com: Hey Sense, Perhaps the problem is that inside the Ubuntu project there aren't a great number of development projects that new users can just dive right into. Basically anything to do with bzr, launchpad, ubiquity or the handful of other little extras that help the Ubuntu distribution. Most programmer imagine working on applications, or other more visible things. The Ubuntu project it's self isn't the right place for that, we need to go upstream, it's the wider FLOSS community that should be promoted. Sure their work will benefit Ubuntu in the end, but it's worth noting the difference between Ubuntu's development efforts and upstream's. Maybe then we should add pointers to information about contributing to upstream projects. However, the Ubuntu Website, Ubuntu Drupal, Lernid, Apport, Desktopcouch, *Indicator, Jockey and many other projects could also be listed. Regards, -- Sense Hofstede [ˈsɛn.sə ˈɦɔf.steːdə] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: dragging icons onto desktop - place where i drop plz
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 08:36 +0100, Rene Veerman wrote: please make sure it ends up under my cursor when i drop it You really should file bugs in launchpad for such things, they will just be lost on the list. Preferably use ubuntu-bug to report: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Question about this list
Amahdy wrote: Like many ppl, I don't want to check a lists group over an rss like gmane, You really, desperately, need to learn terminology if you want to convince _anybody_ that you are right. gmane news is _not_ in any sense an rss. and the reason of checking this list over web-browser then it's because I don't know how a better way to see the 10 replies on my post and type a new one using my mail client. Well, that certainly explains why you get no support here... Maybe I'm missing something here (like I said in my early first post), but I even don't know how to set a total delivery for all messages sent here, I only receive a digest and there is no option to receive instant-notification, although I believe mailman has this option but maybe You chose digest. I've never even encountered a mailing list where digest was the default. -- derek -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: dragging icons onto desktop - place where i drop plz
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 08:36 +0100, Rene Veerman wrote: if i drag any icon onto the desktop, it just goes to a random place it seems. please make sure it ends up under my cursor when i drop it. Known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/246981 -- Cheers, Vish -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
