Re: Save Icon modernization needed
Mario Vukelic wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 13:19 +0100, Palle Hellemann wrote: I answered: You just click on the Floppydisk Icon in the Menu bar! Also, I use Ubuntu 9.10 with the default theme ((Humanity icon theme) and all save icons seem to show a harddisk (3.5) with an arrow pointing downward. Not that this is any more intuitive (who, in the grand scheme of things, has looked inside their computer to actually see a HD? Laptops don't even have 3.5 disks), but whatever Heh, from the mouthes of children... I think we need to go beyond symbols that depict the current technological device that we use to store files on, to a more generic represtation. Perhaps an icon that changes state when the document is saved. It could be i.e. an open hand when the document is not saved, and when you clikc it, thereby saving the document, the hand would close. It could also be a book; an open book when the document is unsaved, that changes to a closed book wehn everything has safely been written to disk. Cheers Morten -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Domain Server
On 20/10/2009, at 15.35, Derek Broughton wrote: I will never understand why a server GUI would improve anything? I will never understand why elitists hate GUIs. A good UI should improve things by absolutely preventing misconfiguration. That's because the GUI often gets in the way of good sysadm practices and also automated configuration such as cfengine and the like. One example is the /etc/resolv.conf file, which used to be a simple 3 line file that in karmic has been replaced with a complex and intransparent resolvconf system, that is part of the network configuation gui and clobbers /etc/resolv.conf at every boot. There's a huge difference maintaining a single-user system on a laptop and hundreds of workstations. -- Morten -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition
Scott James Remnant wrote: Why should Ubuntu actively prevent a developer from writing software in C# if they wish? That software may not even be intended to be shipped in Ubuntu, what if they want to use Ubuntu as the basis for an application that happens to be written in C#? Do you seriously believe we shouldn't allow this? For that reason, I actively and passionately disagree with any argument that a C# Development environment such as Mono should not be provided for Ubuntu. Although I've uttered scepticism towards Mono before, I actually agree with that. I know of at least one example where a incarnated .NET programmer discovered that he could port his work easily to Linux and do his work there, and make his program available on the lab Linux workstations. On the patent concerns, the only thing I'd say is that patents are inherently uninteresting unless they are being enforced by their holders. Since Microsoft are not currently enforcing any C#-related patents--indeed is it even known whether they hold any?--that doesn't appear to be a concern. The main fear wrt to Mono is that IF Ubuntu and other distributions came to rely on killer apps programmed in C#, we'd be extremely vulnerable to the kind of FUD Microsoft has a history of spreading. In fact, just threatening with repercussions against users of the distro might be enough to scare corporate and business users away. If I were Balmer, that's what I'd do; why risk losing a patent case when you can use FUD forever with the same result? On the other hand, we should be careful not destroying our community with hateful flamewars, and creating divisions where there are none. So let's not create a problem before it actually arises. We really must believe in the strength of the FOSS community. If Microsoft indeed did pursue a patent case, the FOSS community would be able to work around it quicker than they can say pay us. Let's not succumb to fear. All of us are believers of freedom. Consequently, we cannot censor packages that otherwise fulfil the DFSG. What will be the next thing then? Banning Firefox because it has an icon of a fox twisting in agony with its tail on fire? If users want to use Mono packages, they should be free to do so. If users don't want them, they can install the mononono package [1] to help keep them off their system. Cheers, Morten [1] http://tim.thechases.com/mononono/ -- Morten Kjeldgaard m...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu MOTU Developer GPG Key ID: 404825E7 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Default font size in gnome
On 26/02/2009, at 19.32, Felix Miata wrote: Terrible. Users who find the default too large should have no trouble using the tool to make fonts smaller. Those with the opposite problem may not be able to see to make a change. Perhaps it would be possible to ship an optional theme that has a smaller default font-size, and perhaps another one, for the vision impaired, having a larger one? Cheers, Morten -- Morten Kjeldgaard m...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu MOTU Developer GPG Key ID: 404825E7 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Boot-time improvements
On 09/09/2008, at 20.31, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote: Some systems have been really successful at making it *appear* as if the system starts up faster. In my opinion, where the system can't be made to boot faster, it should be made to appear so. Is booting really relevant these days? Not for me. At work, the servers and desktops run weeks and months without a reboot. My personal laptop, an old Apple Powerbook, boots perhaps once a month. It just sleeps when I close it and wake up right away when I open it. Cheers, Morten -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Changing dpkg-deb default compression from gzip to lzma for Hardy
Let me add my 2 cents' worth. I don't know what algorithm is used by lzma, but I think there are other factors than CPU speed and size that matters. Namely memory. As an example, I can tell you that in the past we have experienced problems with the quite serious memory requirements of bunzip2. In several instances, we have seen bunzip2 fail for apparently mysterious reasons. Eventually, it turned out, the only way to solve the problem was to change the memory sticks on the motherboard. Even though memtest86+ did not reveal any problems with the RAM, bunzip2 seems to be extremely sensitive to (I think) how well the particular type of memory is supported by the motherboard. It is possibly some kind of timing issue. I want to emphasize that we never had problems running gunzip decompression even on the systems affected by the bunzip2 issue. As I said, I don't know the lzma algorithm at all, but I fear that in such an efficient compression procedure, there is a risk that similar problems could appear. Needless to say, failure to decompress packages properly could completely brick the system. The gzip algorithm may not be the most efficient of all, but it is extremely reliable, fast, and memory-efficient. IMHO, the 10% gain on the size of an install CD is quickly eaten by new/expanded packages, and soon, the same problem/discussion will return. I think the effort is better spent in making bone-hard priorities on what goes on the CD and what remains available from the archives. And, perhaps, a special try-me-out CD edition could be designed, with samples of some of the latest and greatest software, but without some of the server tools and other stuff one would normally select for a running system. Cheers, Morten PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
