Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth

2009-01-11 Thread Thomas Cameron
To be clear, and as I'm sure you already know, you will not benefit from
EXT4's advanced layout functionality for existing files if you convert.
Only new files will be created with extents and the rest of the advanced
features.

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 14:40 -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote:
 Colin Watson wrote:
  ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorrow's daily
  builds.
 
 I'm looking forward to this. I've been looking forward to ext4 for
 years. I could do an install from scratch, but I'm hoping that I can
 upgrade my existing ext3 to ext4 as you can going from ext2 to ext3.
 


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Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth

2009-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 02:40:51PM -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote:
 Colin Watson wrote:
  ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorrow's daily
  builds.
 
 I'm looking forward to this. I've been looking forward to ext4 for
 years. I could do an install from scratch, but I'm hoping that I can
 upgrade my existing ext3 to ext4 as you can going from ext2 to ext3.

Yes, as the end of http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
says:

  To convert an existing ext3 filesystem to use ext4, use the command
  
$ tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/DEV
  
  WARNING: Once you run this command, the filesystem will no longer be
  mountable using the ext3 filesystem!
  
  After running this command, you MUST run fsck:
  
$ fsck -pf /dev/DEV
  
  NOTE: by doing so, new files will be created in extents format, but
  this will not convert existing files. However, they can be
  transparently read by Ext4.
  
  WARNING: It is NOT recommended to resize the inodes using resize2fs,
  as this is known to corrupt some filesystems. 

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Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth

2009-01-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 04:07:27PM -0800, Dean Loros wrote:
 I am active at ubuntuforums in the testing/development support area  
 there has been a fair amount of talk in the following thread:  
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965879
 
 As EXT4 has just been termed stable, is there a possibility that it 
 can be included as optional ?  A use request/bugreport is filed at: 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/197311

ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorrow's daily
builds.

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Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth

2009-01-08 Thread Aaron Toponce
Colin Watson wrote:
 ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorrow's daily
 builds.

I'm looking forward to this. I've been looking forward to ext4 for
years. I could do an install from scratch, but I'm hoping that I can
upgrade my existing ext3 to ext4 as you can going from ext2 to ext3.

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Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth

2008-12-01 Thread Chris Jones
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On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:07 AM, Dean Loros wrote:
 ...
 There has been talk in the testing group about Plymouth  possible
 replacement of Usplash...IMO Plymouth provides a better user
experience
 due to a more seamless blending of Grub, Kernel boot  GDM. I
realize
 that there could be issues with this, but it could also net a more
 positive user experience .
 ...

Plymouth is scheduled for discussion at the Ubuntu Developer Summit two 
weeks from now. 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/plymouth

Cheers
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***


Just thought it was worth mentioning that it's certainly possible to use
ext4 on Ubuntu already. I'm using it for my 2 data hard drives which
were originally ext3. But ext4 is backward compatible and therefore has
the capability to mount ext3 partitions and ext4.

Here's what I done (as I posted in a recent forum):

First you have to enable the system to mount ext4 because Ubuntu still
flags ext4 file system as experimental as is therefore disabled by
default.

ubuntu% sudo tune2fs -E test_fs /dev/your_drive_partition

And then you simply have to mount the drive.

ubuntu% sudo mount /dev/your_drive_partition -t ext4dev 
/media/your_mount_directory

Done.

A quick check with df to see if it worked.

ubuntu% df -T

It worked. Here's what mine looks like. The last 2 entries are the ext4
mounts. You'll notice that they are flagged as ext4dev, that's because
(as mentioned) Ubuntu still flags ext4 as experimental, even though it's
not.

ubuntu% df -T
Filesystem Type   1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6  jfs17549600   4258296  13291304  25% /
tmpfstmpfs  250364 0250364   0% /lib/init/rw
varrun   tmpfs  250364   324250040   1% /var/run
varlock  tmpfs  250364 0250364   0% /var/lock
udev tmpfs  250364  2872247492   2% /dev
tmpfstmpfs  250364 0250364   0% /dev/shm
lrm  tmpfs  250364  2380247984   1% 
/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/volatile
/dev/sda1  jfs  495712 13176482536   3% /boot
/dev/sda5 ext255599836  25436932  27903524  48% /home
/dev/sdb1  ext4dev   157566568  45810908 103751680  31% /home/chris/disk
/dev/sdc1  ext4dev   307663800 256501836  35778776  88% /home/chris/disk-1

For the record too, it's definitely snappier with both read/write on the
simple real world tests that I done.


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Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth

2008-11-26 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas

On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:07 AM, Dean Loros wrote:

...
There has been talk in the testing group about Plymouth  possible
replacement of Usplash...IMO Plymouth provides a better user experience
due to a more seamless blending of Grub, Kernel boot  GDM. I realize
that there could be issues with this, but it could also net a more
positive user experience .
...


Plymouth is scheduled for discussion at the Ubuntu Developer Summit two 
weeks from now. 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/plymouth


Cheers
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http://mpt.net.nz/


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