Re: Serious bug in atlas, yet no action

2009-10-08 Thread Cyrus Hall
Scott-

I wont have time to try and package 3.8.3 until this evening, but will
do so then.

In terms of the feature freeze, I have two comments.  First, it does
seem worth trying to get a non-broken version of the SSE2 version into
the repo.  The seriousness of this bug is very clear: a large number of
scientific computing tasks use atlas, and are at risk of producing
incorrect results.  This reflects poorly on Unbuntu and OSS in general.

However, if it's not desirable to ask for an exception, maybe it would
be possible to argue for the removal of the SSE2 optimized package in
Karmic.  This would not be an inconvenience for users, as the package
produces incorrect results anyway, and would in fact help them by making
sure they do not produce erroneous data.

Cheers,
Cyrus

On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 19:42 +0200, Scott Howard wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 The reason why Ubuntu has an old version of atlas is that Debian has
 an old version of atlas. However, a week or two ago debian packaged
 the newest version of atlas into the experimental section:
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/atlas.html
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=382880
 
 If it was earlier in the release cycle, it would be much simpler to
 get atlas in to Karmic. However, since we are in feature freeze with
 the release a few weeks away, we are almost bound to 3.6 since
 upstream (in this case debian) released 3.8 too recently.
 
 Science motus - if an upgrade to 3.8 fixes this problem, do you think
 it is even worth trying to get a freeze exemption for an upgrade from
 3.6 to 3.8? My guess is no, since several library names have changed
 and other libraries have been removed which won't play nice with other
 packages.
 
 Upstream and Debian changelogs are below.
 
 
 I'll try to package 3.8 later. Cyrus, if you'd like to try packaging,
 you can get the source and package it by doing the following:
 
 $ dget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/atlas/atlas_3.8.3-2.dsc
 $ dpkg-source -x atlas_3.8.3-2.dsc
 
 Then build it (using pbuilder, for example - see the wiki for detailed
 instructions).
 
 
 ATLAS 3.8.3 released 02/21/09, Changes from 3.8.2:
* Fixed bugs:
  - Numerous improvements to configure's architecture recognition
  - Fixed D/ZGEMM cleanup error on MIPS
  - Fixed TRMV tuning Makefile error
  - Fixed Makefile error preventing TRSM tuning
  - Worked around gcc's Solaris division bug
* Backported Core2 and K10h GEMM kernels
  - Makes a *huge* perf diff on Intel boxes, slight improvement for K10h
* Added arch defs for Corei7 (64 bit only)
 ATLAS 3.8.2 released 06/06/08, Changes from 3.8.1:
* Fixed bugs:
  - Pervasive performance bug in GEMM, affecting all architectures
  - Occasional access of C when BETA=0
* Configure improvements:
  - Improved freebsd architecture probe
  - Improved linux cpu throttling probe
* Added mu=4 SSE M cleanup for extra performance
 ATLAS 3.8.1 released 02/22/08, Changes from 3.8.0:
* Fixed bug in slvtst that counted complex flops same as real
* Fixed bug causing wrong answer for row-major gemm C=A*A' or A'A
* Fixed bug in configure causing Pentium-M to be IDed as CoreDuo
* Fixed bug in tfc.c causing memory overwrite when too many samples taken
* Improved L1 BLAS timers so they work like the rest of the package, and
  thus don't die all the time on tolerance failures
* Improved ATLAS/tune/blas/gemm/mmsearch.c:
  - for x86, tried more registers, since smart compiler can reduce A  B
regs to 2 (and possibly even 1)
  - Made it so search tries both load-C-at-top and load-C-at-bottom of
M loop.  Bottom is superior for error, and ATLAS originally defaulted
to load-C-at-top.
* Added configure support for new K10h platform from AMD, as well as
  basic architectural defaults (no new kernels, just good search)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The debian changelog is below:
  atlas  (3.8.3-2) experimental; urgency=low
 
* Improve CPU extension check
 
  -- Sylvestre Ledru sylves...@debian.org  Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:39:07 +0200
 atlas (3.8.3-1) experimental; urgency=low
 
* New upstream version (Closes: #382880)
* debian/rules rewrited from scratch
* Provides more documentation in the libatlas-doc packages
* debian/copyright updated
* Add myself to the uploader
* Vcs-Browser  Vcs-Svn added
* packages libatlas-3dnow-dev  libatlas3gf-3dnow obsoletes
* packages libatlas-sse3-dev and libatlas3-sse3 added
* libatlas-headers renamed to libatlas-dev
* libatlas-dev is now in section libdevel
* fakeroot debian/rules custom will generated a package called
  ../libatlas3gf-base_*.deb which will contain an optimized version of
  Atlas just for the current arch.
* README.Debian updated to reflect the different changes
* README.source added to explain where sources of the PDF are
* Standards-Version updated to 3.8.3
* compat updated to version 7

Re: Serious bug in atlas, yet no action

2009-10-06 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard

On 06/10/2009, at 16.41, Cyrus Hall wrote:

 I've recently run into what appears to be a known and reported problem
 in Atlas 3.2.1: the SSE2 optimized version is broken.  This version is
 currently shipped with Jaunty, and is reported to still be broken in  
 the
 Karmic (see bug reports below).  There are numerous unassigned bug
 reports in launchpad which appear related to the problem, some of  
 which
 are six months old:

Thank you for drawing our attention to this bug. I will take a look at  
the problems. Anyone willing to pitch in, please do so! In particular,  
if you are aware of patches, make a note on the bugs.

Cheers,
Morten

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Ubuntu MOTU Developer
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