Re: [Ubuntu-phone] possible regression con OTA-10 && GPS

[Vic G]

Hi Matthias!

Please follow this steps provided by Marco Costales to (try)get location:

1. Reboot 
device


2. Make sure GPS is enabled in:
https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/site_media/appmedia/2016/03/x.png
https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/site_media/appmedia/2016/03/y.png
https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/site_media/appmedia/2016/03/z_1.png

Sensor status enabled here:
https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/site_media/appmedia/2016/03/z_1_1.png

3. Enable Wi-Fi but do not connect it to a WLAN (this way you enable 
A-GPS) and should get location a bit faster.


4. Do not use 2 GPS apps at the same time(won't work, this is a bug 
 
for OTA-11).


5. Please try to get location with uNav, always out doors.

Regards!

El 07/04/16 a las 20:35, Matthias Apitz escribió:

Hello,

It seems to me that since OTA-10 I can not get any GPX fix, not even
with the app SensorStatus. I double checked all GPS switches in
"Battery" and in "Security->Location". Before OTA-10 I could get the
first fix (TTFF) between 20 and 60 secs, now not in 10 minutes in the same
location.

Has something changed?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom Box and Syncing

[Wayne Taylor]

I like snappy ubuntu (from the little I have learned)

I like porta-box things, though I've heard that some boxes are 'more
free' than others but that's not a focused discussion for this email list.

I like how amazing owncloud works...

Based on everything here, it would seem logical to have, and in order of
priority:

a) carddav/cal dav

b) have owncloud client working and working awesome on ubuntu phone

c) have a safe 'porta-box' running ubuntu snappy and owncloud

'a' will solve everyone's calendar and contacts (including those who
wish to have their calendars and contacts pillaged by google)
'b' will solve all the backup and file sharing needs of the current
world (and do other cool things, too)
'c' will make everything awesomely private and portable

and all of this also convergence-ready so you don't have to change much
when that occurs in full.


thanks for the crash course as well, everyone.  Exciting times.

W



On 16-04-07 06:41 AM, Sergio Schvezov wrote:
>
> El 07/04/16 a las 07:51, Oliver Grawert escribió:
>> hi,
>> Am Mittwoch, den 06.04.2016, 05:29 -0700 schrieb Wayne Taylor:
>>> Just a quick thought:
>>>
>>> I've always imagined a free version of a Pogoplug to solve the whole
>>> sync discussion with ubuntu phone.
>>>
>>> http://freedomboxfoundation.org/
>>>
>>> Something like Owncloud running on one of these that just kind of
>>> 'works' with low power.  Syncs up your photos, videos, contacts,
>>> calendar and maybe connects with mom's and best friends freedom box to
>>> allow for multiple off-site backup of said personal data.
>>>
>>> Something plug-and-play but not running through a website like pogoplug...
>>>
>>> just a quick thought...
>> you could also just use ubuntu snappy ;)
> To expand on what ogra is saying:
> https://owncloud.org/blog/wd-labs-raspberry-pi-owncloud-and-ubuntu/
>
>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 07.04.16

[Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak]

Hello everyone,

My yesterday's estimations regarding OTA-10 for mako and flo were
slightly off as we won't be able to get the update rolling today. Simon
Fels swiftly prepared a fix for the aforementioned regression and it's
in the testing queue as we speak, but since the fix requires a rootfs
rebuild things will take a bit more time than I originally anticipated.
That's the risk of estimating things like this, especially with so many
moving parts... That being said - if of course nothing really unexpected
pops up - we *should* have everything ready tomorrow. We apologise and
ask our mako and flo users for a bit more patience!

Besides that the OTA-10 phased upgrades are finished for krillin,
vegetahd and arale. In case you still do not see the update notification
on one of these devices, try rebooting as OTA-9.1 still has a bug in
update discovery that can happen on certain cases [1]. This is fixed in
OTA-10 so no more issues like that in the future.
A few click packages are still locked in staging (unreleased to the
store) - we will flush them once the update is available for all our
designated platforms.

As for OTA-10+ landings, today we released a new location-service
(fusion engine provider for better position updates) and
ubuntu-system-settings with storage-information fixes.

Cheers!

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1508081


* What landed in our images:
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch

#308 rc-proposed/krillin
-
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/krillin/308.commitlog

#302 rc-proposed/vegetahd
-
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/vegetahd/302.commitlog

#301 rc-proposed/arale
-
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en/arale/301.commitlog


* Some useful documentation:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/RTMLandingApproaches
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/Smoketesting
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/ReleaseSchedule
http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/

https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/
https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu/silo-testing
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/issues/
https://lists.launchpad.net/landing-team-changes/


* Blocking issues (stable):

** Camera app and messaging app on mako no mic in video mode
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1566896


* Blocking issues (devel):

** devel-proposed - android lxc container fails to start
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1551150


* Issues in need of attention:

** Manually installed apps removed by new system image
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1558032


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Alan Bell]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Olivier Tilloy  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Peter Bittner 
> wrote:
> > What does that mean? There is no plan to offer (useable) WebRTC
> > implementation in webapp-container ever?
>
> 'Usable' is a very subjective concept.

it really isn't subjective for webrtc, and it isn't a huge distance away
from working now. getUserMedia needs to be able to select the right camera
based on the videosource id that it gives out through enumerateDevices, and
it needs to not be upside down. At that point, a basic hello world webrtc
video connection between two handsets can work.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Peter Bittner  wrote:
> What does that mean? There is no plan to offer (useable) WebRTC
> implementation in webapp-container ever?

'Usable' is a very subjective concept. Regardless, I expect modern web
applications would have an in-page control to switch cameras. But my
expectations might be wrong, in which case this is absolutely
something that we should reconsider.

As Alex pointed out in an earlier answer:

« we are also discussing how to integrate webapp specific settings
from the UI perspective to possibly tweak the default »

But this is not trivial from a UX perspective, given that most webapps
want the minimum amount of chrome (ideally none).

There are several known issues (most of them filed by you, keep them
coming!) that, when fixed, should greatly improve the default WebRTC
experience on ubuntu touch. I understand your frustration with the
current state of affairs (a half-working implementation that’s not
suited for lambda users), it is being addressed and is among our
priorities for OTA-11.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Alexandre Abreu]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Peter Bittner  wrote:

> What does that mean? There is no plan to offer (useable) WebRTC
> implementation in webapp-container ever?
>

> With your reference to the the web API you basically say the only way
> is to implement things ourselves using JavaScript, correct? We cannot
> easily integrate existing services that already have a substantial
> user base, and a working, well-tested infrastructure?
>

no, we are indeed working on improving the support in the container
for WebRTC related use cases, e.g.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1563398

(to be noted that it will not solve all the use cases, but it will ease up
the process),

we are also discussing how to integrate webapp specific settings from the UI
perspective to possibly tweak th default, but the additional support
provided by

https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1554603

will be enough to make switching from front & back cameras from the
application
itself work, since AFAIK appear.in handles the switch directly in-app w/o
external
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Accents áéíóú not working in Spanish layout

[Sergi Quiles Pérez]

You're right, my actual keyboard is this one:
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOhA1GOR-LQSqdmb8PG_mqI3Ia7X1BHHU8ULPA8

I'm going to update the description.

Thanks.

 
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2016-04-07 20:40 GMT+02:00 Matthias Apitz :

> El día Thursday, April 07, 2016 a las 05:24:46PM +0200, Sergi Quiles Pérez
> escribió:
>
> > Using my keyboard with Spanish layout I can't write accented characters
> > (dead acute, áéíóú).
> >
> > I've filed a bug:
> >
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1565236
> >
> > Does anybody know any solution?
> >
> >
> > Extra info:
> >
> > - Keyboard:
> > http://www.logitech.com/en-hk/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r2
> > - Ubuntu Desktop: 12.04
> > - Ubuntu Touch: bq Aquaris E4.5 15.04 (r305)
>
> The picture shows a normal international QWERTY keyboard, how this gives
> normaly for you the Spanish tilded chars ñáéíó¡¿  ?#
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] starting a background proc from a desktop icon

[Matthias Apitz]

I have found a trivial, combined solution: the *.desktop file is:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=unav-osm
Type=Application
Exec=/usr/bin/nohup /home/phablet/unav.sh
Icon=/userdata/system-data/opt/click.ubuntu.com/navigator.costales/0.57/icon.png
Terminal=false
X-Ubuntu-Touch=true

and the shell script launches both, first the HTTP server, and after
this the uNav app:

#!/bin/sh 

# 1st start the local HTTP server:
cd /media/phablet/*/Maps
python3 -m http.server  &

# now start uNav
cd /userdata/system-data/opt/click.ubuntu.com/navigator.costales/0.57/
qmlscene %u qml/Main.qml

works fine;

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Accents áéíóú not working in Spanish layout

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Thursday, April 07, 2016 a las 05:24:46PM +0200, Sergi Quiles Pérez 
escribió:

> Using my keyboard with Spanish layout I can't write accented characters
> (dead acute, áéíóú).
> 
> I've filed a bug:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1565236
> 
> Does anybody know any solution?
> 
> 
> Extra info:
> 
> - Keyboard:
> http://www.logitech.com/en-hk/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r2
> - Ubuntu Desktop: 12.04
> - Ubuntu Touch: bq Aquaris E4.5 15.04 (r305)

The picture shows a normal international QWERTY keyboard, how this gives
normaly for you the Spanish tilded chars ñáéíó¡¿  ?#

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[Ubuntu-phone] possible regression con OTA-10 && GPS

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

It seems to me that since OTA-10 I can not get any GPX fix, not even
with the app SensorStatus. I double checked all GPS switches in
"Battery" and in "Security->Location". Before OTA-10 I could get the
first fix (TTFF) between 20 and 60 secs, now not in 10 minutes in the same
location.

Has something changed?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Peter Bittner]

What does that mean? There is no plan to offer (useable) WebRTC
implementation in webapp-container ever?

With your reference to the the web API you basically say the only way
is to implement things ourselves using JavaScript, correct? We cannot
easily integrate existing services that already have a substantial
user base, and a working, well-tested infrastructure?

This feels somewhat like "try to persuade Skype that they make their
web version work on Ubuntu Touch". Other companies may be smaller but
they will have the same reasons to shake their heads. There is no
incentive to invest manpower in tailoring solutions to Ubuntu Touch. I
think the Ubuntu Touch platform has to move.

And, sorry, what is wrong from a user (experience) perspective to
offer more control over which camera an app should use? This feature
shouldn't be hidden inside the browser's settings menu, buried three
levels deep where only freaky geeks will go to find it.

I'd really prefer this issue not being ignored that way.

Peter

2016-04-07 17:15 GMT+02:00 Olivier Tilloy:
> This is tracked by https://launchpad.net/bugs/1535818, which once
> fixed in oxide will allow webapps to offer a piece of UI to switch
> between front and back camera. There’s currently no plan to offer such
> a feature in the webapp container itself, given the existence of the
> web API.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Chris Coulson]

On 07/04/16 17:45, Alan Bell wrote:
> A production BQ 4.5 phone.
Thanks.

I've confirmed this now, and this seems to be unique to this device. My
other devices are working correctly.

- Chris
>
> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Chris Coulson  > wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 07/04/16 17:03, Alan Bell wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 07/04/16 15:38, Michał Sawicz wrote:
> >>> W dniu 07.04.2016 o 16:30, Chris Coulson pisze:
>  This isn't a bug. The mirroring is done by appear.in
>  with "transform:
>  rotateY(180deg)" on the video element style. This is common for video
>  conferencing sites which assume that the camera being used is a front
>  facing camera, where mirroring is desirable.
> >>> Also note this only happens in what you see (basically so it looks
> like
> >>> a mirror for you - easier on the brain) - the remote end sees it
> without
> >>> mirroring.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> dunno about you, but I am fairly sure that being upside down is not
> >> easier on my brain.
> >>
> >> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
> >>
> >> looks like it now enumerates the cameras, but only actually works with
> >> the default camera set in the browser settings. The rear camera is OK,
> >> front camera is upside down.
> >>
> >> Alan.
> >>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Which device do you see this with?
> >
> > I should point out that the preview orientation will only work correctly
> > in the primary orientations (portrait or landscape) because of
> > https://launchpad.net/bugs/1535820 - ie, an inverted preview in
> > inverted-portrait or inverted-landscape is currently expected because of
> > a platform limitation.
> >
> > Still, what you describe does not sound expected.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Chris
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Chris Coulson]

On 07/04/16 17:03, Alan Bell wrote:
>
>
> On 07/04/16 15:38, Michał Sawicz wrote:
>> W dniu 07.04.2016 o 16:30, Chris Coulson pisze:
>>> This isn't a bug. The mirroring is done by appear.in with "transform:
>>> rotateY(180deg)" on the video element style. This is common for video
>>> conferencing sites which assume that the camera being used is a front
>>> facing camera, where mirroring is desirable.
>> Also note this only happens in what you see (basically so it looks like
>> a mirror for you - easier on the brain) - the remote end sees it without
>> mirroring.
>>
>>
> dunno about you, but I am fairly sure that being upside down is not
> easier on my brain.
>
> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
>
> looks like it now enumerates the cameras, but only actually works with
> the default camera set in the browser settings. The rear camera is OK,
> front camera is upside down.
>
> Alan.
>
Hi,

Which device do you see this with?

I should point out that the preview orientation will only work correctly
in the primary orientations (portrait or landscape) because of
https://launchpad.net/bugs/1535820 - ie, an inverted preview in
inverted-portrait or inverted-landscape is currently expected because of
a platform limitation.

Still, what you describe does not sound expected.

Thanks,
- Chris

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Alan Bell]

A production BQ 4.5 phone.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Chris Coulson  wrote:
>
>
> On 07/04/16 17:03, Alan Bell wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 07/04/16 15:38, Michał Sawicz wrote:
>>> W dniu 07.04.2016 o 16:30, Chris Coulson pisze:
 This isn't a bug. The mirroring is done by appear.in with "transform:
 rotateY(180deg)" on the video element style. This is common for video
 conferencing sites which assume that the camera being used is a front
 facing camera, where mirroring is desirable.
>>> Also note this only happens in what you see (basically so it looks like
>>> a mirror for you - easier on the brain) - the remote end sees it without
>>> mirroring.
>>>
>>>
>> dunno about you, but I am fairly sure that being upside down is not
>> easier on my brain.
>>
>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
>>
>> looks like it now enumerates the cameras, but only actually works with
>> the default camera set in the browser settings. The rear camera is OK,
>> front camera is upside down.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
> Hi,
>
> Which device do you see this with?
>
> I should point out that the preview orientation will only work correctly
> in the primary orientations (portrait or landscape) because of
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1535820 - ie, an inverted preview in
> inverted-portrait or inverted-landscape is currently expected because of
> a platform limitation.
>
> Still, what you describe does not sound expected.
>
> Thanks,
> - Chris
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Alan Bell]

On 07/04/16 15:38, Michał Sawicz wrote:

W dniu 07.04.2016 o 16:30, Chris Coulson pisze:

This isn't a bug. The mirroring is done by appear.in with "transform:
rotateY(180deg)" on the video element style. This is common for video
conferencing sites which assume that the camera being used is a front
facing camera, where mirroring is desirable.

Also note this only happens in what you see (basically so it looks like
a mirror for you - easier on the brain) - the remote end sees it without
mirroring.


dunno about you, but I am fairly sure that being upside down is not 
easier on my brain.


https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/

looks like it now enumerates the cameras, but only actually works with 
the default camera set in the browser settings. The rear camera is OK, 
front camera is upside down.


Alan.

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[Ubuntu-phone] Accents áéíóú not working in Spanish layout

[Sergi Quiles Pérez]

Using my keyboard with Spanish layout I can't write accented characters
(dead acute, áéíóú).

I've filed a bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1565236

Does anybody know any solution?


Extra info:

- Keyboard:
http://www.logitech.com/en-hk/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r2
- Ubuntu Desktop: 12.04
- Ubuntu Touch: bq Aquaris E4.5 15.04 (r305)

 
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch OTA-10 released

[Alan Bell]

OK, a reboot fixed it. Thanks!

installing now.

Alan.
On 07/04/16 16:45, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote:

Hello!

So the all the BQ and Meizu devices finished (phased percentage is 100%)
right now so all users should have updates on their phones. That being
said, OTA-9.1 had an annoying bug regarding update notification [1] that
we fixed in OTA-10. Try rebooting your device, maybe that will unblock
the situation.

After OTA-10 things like this should not happen.

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1508081

Cheers!

W dniu 07.04.2016 o 17:36, Alan Bell pisze:

How can I tell if phased updates have been completed? I am on OTA-9.1
with a BQ phone and the phone says "Software is up to date".

Alan.

On 06/04/16 11:06, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote:

Hello everyone,

We have just copied most of the OTA-10 images to the stable channels and
started the phased upgrade procedure. I mentioned 'most' as for now we
only prepared krillin, vegetahd and arale. Mako and flo will be
following shortly, we just need a few more hours for those - but those
will be happening today as well.

As always, all users should see the update on their phones tomorrow at
latest.

The release notes page for this OTA including all the necessary
information - along with changes, image numbers, issues and commitlogs:
   * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-10

Once again big thanks to everyone participating in this release! It was
a huge update and a big challenge with all the new devices appearing,
but I hope everyone will be satisfied with what we prepared.

Cheers,

Best regards,








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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch OTA-10 released

[Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak]

Hello!

So the all the BQ and Meizu devices finished (phased percentage is 100%)
right now so all users should have updates on their phones. That being
said, OTA-9.1 had an annoying bug regarding update notification [1] that
we fixed in OTA-10. Try rebooting your device, maybe that will unblock
the situation.

After OTA-10 things like this should not happen.

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1508081

Cheers!

W dniu 07.04.2016 o 17:36, Alan Bell pisze:
> How can I tell if phased updates have been completed? I am on OTA-9.1
> with a BQ phone and the phone says "Software is up to date".
> 
> Alan.
> 
> On 06/04/16 11:06, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> We have just copied most of the OTA-10 images to the stable channels and
>> started the phased upgrade procedure. I mentioned 'most' as for now we
>> only prepared krillin, vegetahd and arale. Mako and flo will be
>> following shortly, we just need a few more hours for those - but those
>> will be happening today as well.
>>
>> As always, all users should see the update on their phones tomorrow at
>> latest.
>>
>> The release notes page for this OTA including all the necessary
>> information - along with changes, image numbers, issues and commitlogs:
>>   * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-10
>>
>> Once again big thanks to everyone participating in this release! It was
>> a huge update and a big challenge with all the new devices appearing,
>> but I hope everyone will be satisfied with what we prepared.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
> 
> 


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch OTA-10 released

[Alan Bell]

How can I tell if phased updates have been completed? I am on OTA-9.1 
with a BQ phone and the phone says "Software is up to date".


Alan.

On 06/04/16 11:06, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote:

Hello everyone,

We have just copied most of the OTA-10 images to the stable channels and
started the phased upgrade procedure. I mentioned 'most' as for now we
only prepared krillin, vegetahd and arale. Mako and flo will be
following shortly, we just need a few more hours for those - but those
will be happening today as well.

As always, all users should see the update on their phones tomorrow at
latest.

The release notes page for this OTA including all the necessary
information - along with changes, image numbers, issues and commitlogs:
  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-10

Once again big thanks to everyone participating in this release! It was
a huge update and a big challenge with all the new devices appearing,
but I hope everyone will be satisfied with what we prepared.

Cheers,

Best regards,




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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Peter Bittner  wrote:
> Good! Even better, then all there is missing is switching cameras.
>
> Olivier, how is this planned to be implemented? IIRC, there is a
> camera selection in the permission dialog planned, which is really not
> the same as a "switching cameras" feature. Because you cannot switch
> camera after you have started the app.

This is tracked by https://launchpad.net/bugs/1535818, which once
fixed in oxide will allow webapps to offer a piece of UI to switch
between front and back camera. There’s currently no plan to offer such
a feature in the webapp container itself, given the existence of the
web API.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Michał Sawicz]

W dniu 07.04.2016 o 16:30, Chris Coulson pisze:
> This isn't a bug. The mirroring is done by appear.in with "transform:
> rotateY(180deg)" on the video element style. This is common for video
> conferencing sites which assume that the camera being used is a front
> facing camera, where mirroring is desirable.

Also note this only happens in what you see (basically so it looks like
a mirror for you - easier on the brain) - the remote end sees it without
mirroring.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Chris Coulson]

Hi,

On 07/04/16 14:56, Peter Bittner wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> thanks for OTA-10, has (sort of) fixed some things for me. Most
> importantly the camera access in the webapp-container, which is now
> available.
>
> Unfortunately, the changes has introduced at least one new bugs in
> both the webbrowser-app and the webapp-container: (documented for the
> appear.in app at [1])
>
> - The video image is mirrored for some reason (at least on my bq E5).
> This seems to be a general problem of the changes introduced to the
> webbrowser-app.
>
> [1] https://github.com/bittner/appear-in/issues/1#issuecomment-206779226
>
> This also could mean that WebRTC is generally broken in the
> webbrowser-app showing a mirrored camera image instead of a regular
> one (as before OTA-10). Is this bug tracked already on LP?
This isn't a bug. The mirroring is done by appear.in with "transform:
rotateY(180deg)" on the video element style. This is common for video
conferencing sites which assume that the camera being used is a front
facing camera, where mirroring is desirable.

Regards
- Chris
> Please note that camera selection in webapp-container is also still
> missing in OTA-10, which is a critical feature WebRTC powered webapps.
> I hope this really really comes to the platform with OTA-11. Sweet
> video calling in an app may be something people on Ubuntu Touch may
> have been waiting for (and who cares if it's not Skype when it works
> better anyway).
>
> Peter
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[Ubuntu-phone] Camera access and camera / video image in webbrowser

[Peter Bittner]

Hi all,

thanks for OTA-10, has (sort of) fixed some things for me. Most
importantly the camera access in the webapp-container, which is now
available.

Unfortunately, the changes has introduced at least one new bugs in
both the webbrowser-app and the webapp-container: (documented for the
appear.in app at [1])

- The video image is mirrored for some reason (at least on my bq E5).
This seems to be a general problem of the changes introduced to the
webbrowser-app.

[1] https://github.com/bittner/appear-in/issues/1#issuecomment-206779226

This also could mean that WebRTC is generally broken in the
webbrowser-app showing a mirrored camera image instead of a regular
one (as before OTA-10). Is this bug tracked already on LP?

Please note that camera selection in webapp-container is also still
missing in OTA-10, which is a critical feature WebRTC powered webapps.
I hope this really really comes to the platform with OTA-11. Sweet
video calling in an app may be something people on Ubuntu Touch may
have been waiting for (and who cares if it's not Skype when it works
better anyway).

Peter

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom Box and Syncing

[Sergio Schvezov]

El 07/04/16 a las 07:51, Oliver Grawert escribió:
> hi,
> Am Mittwoch, den 06.04.2016, 05:29 -0700 schrieb Wayne Taylor:
>> Just a quick thought:
>>
>> I've always imagined a free version of a Pogoplug to solve the whole
>> sync discussion with ubuntu phone.
>>
>> http://freedomboxfoundation.org/
>>
>> Something like Owncloud running on one of these that just kind of
>> 'works' with low power.  Syncs up your photos, videos, contacts,
>> calendar and maybe connects with mom's and best friends freedom box to
>> allow for multiple off-site backup of said personal data.
>>
>> Something plug-and-play but not running through a website like pogoplug...
>>
>> just a quick thought...
> 
> you could also just use ubuntu snappy ;)

To expand on what ogra is saying:
https://owncloud.org/blog/wd-labs-raspberry-pi-owncloud-and-ubuntu/



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]: Color changes in OTA 10

[Guillaume F]

Hi,

Thank you for your answer, it's good to have that sort of explaination!

Like Wolf, I was disappointed to see the Ubuntu-orange replaced by the 
every-other-OS-blue, though I understand the need to have one color per 
function :). What do you mean by "focus state"? I've looked at the new 
palette, but the orange color is the only one to be in the color set and 
nowhere in the palette values.


And as a side-note, I think the Design team should communicate a bit 
more. The design.canonical.com blog used to be full of life in 
2013-2014, and since then there has been very few articles (most of them 
are about Juju and the web, not Touch). That's too bad, because those 
articles are very interesting, are a good way to keep the community up 
to date and can explain some choices, as the design has seen tremendous 
changes since 2013. For example, there was a great article about the 
palette, but from a more technical point of view. The same kind of thing 
from a design point of view (like you just did in your mail) would be great.


The same thing would apply to scopes. The M10 and MX5Pro press images 
–and the ubuntu.com website– show mock-ups and scopes are quite 
different from what we have now (especially the Today scope). I thought 
this new look would make it into OTA-10, but no… This means both those 
devices will ship with something that does not correspond to what the 
buyers bought. And I'm not sure that's very good practice… Anyway, I 
hope you'll write something about the new scopes when the time comes!


Please Design team, talk to us!


Guillaume


Le 07/04/2016 12:25, Rae Shambrook a écrit :

Hi,

This is Rae from the design team. I understand the new palette may 
take some getting used to. But what we've tried to do is create a 
colour palette that works in a smarter way and is more robust. If you 
haven't seen it already, here is a breakdown of how the new palette 
works: 
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-palette/


As for your concerns about components being blue rather than orange, 
the reason why we have removed a lot of orange from the UI is that we 
now want it to be a focus state and blue is meant to be the 
selected/active state. Before we had orange doing both these functions 
and each colour should have it's own meaning. And we feel the blue 
works better for the selected/active state as it feels more intuitive 
as a colour representing activity, while orange could sometimes be 
confusing as what it's supposed to represent. So basically, we've 
tried to make all our colours semantic.  While orange is still our 
brand colour, we want to use it in a more concise way, while other 
colours take on more meaning in the UI, and hopefully, this will make 
it a lot more intuitive for the user.


On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:22 AM, war > 
wrote:


today I received OTA 10.


I have just one complaint (well, suggestion):

The color of the progress bar and of certain elements (namely the
selection of telephone SIMs for outgoing calls).

I know this seems ridiculous to complain about. But for me, color is a
significant indicator and as I have gotten used to the orange the blue
is harder to read/recognize and it is a break in visual information
transfer.

Maybe you want to reconsider changing the color scheme.

Other than that, I am pretty impressed (My Android phone broke on
Upgrade to V6).

Is there an official way to give feedback (there used to be a feeback
app which I cannot find anymore)?

Wolf Rogner


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]: Color changes in OTA 10

[Alan Bell]

On 07/04/16 11:25, Rae Shambrook wrote:

While orange is still our brand colour

why is the orange in the new palette not the brand orange (#dd4814)?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom Box and Syncing

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 06.04.2016, 05:29 -0700 schrieb Wayne Taylor:
> Just a quick thought:
> 
> I've always imagined a free version of a Pogoplug to solve the whole
> sync discussion with ubuntu phone.
> 
> http://freedomboxfoundation.org/
> 
> Something like Owncloud running on one of these that just kind of
> 'works' with low power.  Syncs up your photos, videos, contacts,
> calendar and maybe connects with mom's and best friends freedom box to
> allow for multiple off-site backup of said personal data.
> 
> Something plug-and-play but not running through a website like pogoplug...
> 
> just a quick thought...

you could also just use ubuntu snappy ;)

ciao
oli


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]: Color changes in OTA 10

[Rae Shambrook]

Hi,

This is Rae from the design team. I understand the new palette may take
some getting used to. But what we've tried to do is create a colour palette
that works in a smarter way and is more robust. If you haven't seen it
already, here is a breakdown of how the new palette works:
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-palette/

As for your concerns about components being blue rather than orange, the
reason why we have removed a lot of orange from the UI is that we now want
it to be a focus state and blue is meant to be the selected/active state.
Before we had orange doing both these functions and each colour should have
it's own meaning. And we feel the blue works better for the selected/active
state as it feels more intuitive as a colour representing activity, while
orange could sometimes be confusing as what it's supposed to represent. So
basically, we've tried to make all our colours semantic.  While orange is
still our brand colour, we want to use it in a more concise way, while
other colours take on more meaning in the UI, and hopefully, this will make
it a lot more intuitive for the user.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:22 AM, war  wrote:

> today I received OTA 10.
>
>
> I have just one complaint (well, suggestion):
>
> The color of the progress bar and of certain elements (namely the
> selection of telephone SIMs for outgoing calls).
>
> I know this seems ridiculous to complain about. But for me, color is a
> significant indicator and as I have gotten used to the orange the blue
> is harder to read/recognize and it is a break in visual information
> transfer.
>
> Maybe you want to reconsider changing the color scheme.
>
> Other than that, I am pretty impressed (My Android phone broke on
> Upgrade to V6).
>
> Is there an official way to give feedback (there used to be a feeback
> app which I cannot find anymore)?
>
> Wolf Rogner
>
>
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[Ubuntu-phone] [Design]: Color changes in OTA 10

[war]

today I received OTA 10.


I have just one complaint (well, suggestion):

The color of the progress bar and of certain elements (namely the
selection of telephone SIMs for outgoing calls).

I know this seems ridiculous to complain about. But for me, color is a
significant indicator and as I have gotten used to the orange the blue
is harder to read/recognize and it is a break in visual information
transfer.

Maybe you want to reconsider changing the color scheme.

Other than that, I am pretty impressed (My Android phone broke on
Upgrade to V6).

Is there an official way to give feedback (there used to be a feeback
app which I cannot find anymore)?

Wolf Rogner


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[Ubuntu-phone] starting a background proc from a desktop icon

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

I have a .desktop file as:

$ cat .local/share/applications/unav-osm.desktop 
[Desktop Entry]
Name=unav-osm
Type=Application
Exec=sh -c /home/phablet/unav.sh
Icon=/userdata/system-data/opt/click.ubuntu.com/navigator.costales/0.57/icon.png
Terminal=false
X-Ubuntu-Touch=true

This starts fine the shell script from the Exec line which in turn does:

$ cat /home/phablet/unav.sh
#!/bin/sh 

cd /media/phablet/*/Maps
python3 -m http.server  &
sleep 86400 # 24h, i.e. for ever

The problem is:
- without the 'sleep 86400' the started proc python3 ... gets killed at the end
  of the script; as well 'nohup' does not help;
- with the 'sleep 86400', it works as expected but consumes a lot of CPU
  in the unity8 proc (perhaps because the rotating Ubuntu logo on the
  screen of the 'app');

Any ideas? Thanks

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Installing Android on MX4

[Marco Graziotti]

Hi,

when I installed the firmware in one of my two MX4, I'm doing this from 
Windows, because I have trouble to upload Flyme firmware from Ubuntu 
Desktop.
So, you can find here: 
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48915118#post48915118 
howto install ABD and fastboot on windows pc, you need this package to 
permit at your computer to talk with your phone during "fastboot" mode. 
You can find here a video that explain you howto use fastboot and adb: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foLQCNxroHw


For installing the Flyme firmware you can find here a guide: 
https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg13848.html but if you are 
worried about the flashing process, I suggest you to ask (or search an 
old threads) in "xda developers" forum to get help or find a guide for 
flashing your device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video scope & Youtube

[André Fettouhi]

I agree regarding that there should be some way to dekko as the default
mail client. Because you uninstall the gmail web app then if you click the
open in gmail button then the web browser opens.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Browser issue after update

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Ari Börde Kröyer  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I updated to OTA-10 and noticed something odd. When opening a new tab in the
> browser the lower section of the screen previously showed two columns of
> frequently visited web pages. Now there is only one column on the left and
> an empty one on the right. I am guessing this was not intended?

I can see that on my Aquaris E4.5. On an MX4, the screen is wider, and
thus there are two columns.
This is indeed new, that view was tweaked between OTA9 and OTA10, and
that’s an unfortunate consequence of this change. Note that the grid
re-layouts itself to occupy the available width, so if you rotate your
phone, you will see three columns.
Given that every device has different screen resolution and density,
I’m not really sure whether this can be considered a bug (although I
admit it doesn’t look great on an Aquaris E4.5).


> Also, text entry seems to be lagging a bit quite often now.

Can you elaborate a bit more on that one? Is it text input in the
browser, or everywhere? If the former, is it in the address bar, or in
text areas in web pages?

Thanks,

 Olivier

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video scope & Youtube

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:23 AM, André Fettouhi  wrote:
> I have a Meizu MX4 running Ubuntu Touch with update OTA-10 now and since
> OTA-9.1 the Video scope has been partly broken. It shows you the popular
> videos from Youtube and Vimeo but if you select a youtube video you just get
> a blank page. This before you it usually opens the browser. Vimeo on the
> other hand works fine. If you select a Vimeo video you a the description
> etc. and then you select it and the browser opens. Not anymore with the
> Youtube videos.
>
> What it is also rather irritation currently with Ubuntu Touch is the flaky
> video playback mostly again from Youtube sometimes when try to playback a
> video you may not get any picture just sound and sometimes it is reverse. I
> don't know if this caused by the Ubuntu Touch backend or by the app I might
> be using like the uReadIt app.

This is most likely https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437485


> Finally I find a bit strange that Ubuntu now includes Dekko as the mail
> client which is great but the gmail scope still only offers to open an
> e-mail in gmail web app.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> André Fettouhi
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video scope & Youtube

[Wayne Ward]

I have alan popes youtube installed and that kicked in the youtube
videos from the movie scope, but i had one file that wouldnt preview so
i expect that could be a vimeo file, ill try installing the vimeo
player and see if that kicks in to today, but im sure they just used to
play without the players plugged in?

i think its early days with dekko and glad its built in, but i have to
remove it to install the one from openstore to get notifications
unconfined which is a pain, i think when you select in google options
dekko that dekko should be default when you click from a gmail in the
scope otherwise if unselected gmail opens...

Wayne

On Thu, 2016-04-07 at 08:23 +0200, André Fettouhi wrote:
> I have a Meizu MX4 running Ubuntu Touch with update OTA-10 now and
> since OTA-9.1 the Video scope has been partly broken. It shows you
> the popular videos from Youtube and Vimeo but if you select a youtube
> video you just get a blank page. This before you it usually opens the
> browser. Vimeo on the other hand works fine. If you select a Vimeo
> video you a the description etc. and then you select it and the
> browser opens. Not anymore with the Youtube videos.
> 
> What it is also rather irritation currently with Ubuntu Touch is the
> flaky video playback mostly again from Youtube sometimes when try to
> playback a video you may not get any picture just sound and sometimes
> it is reverse. I don't know if this caused by the Ubuntu Touch
> backend or by the app I might be using like the uReadIt app.
> 
> Finally I find a bit strange that Ubuntu now includes Dekko as the
> mail client which is great but the gmail scope still only offers to
> open an e-mail in gmail web app.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> André Fettouhi
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] viewing local HTML files

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, March 29, 2016 a las 09:47:40AM +0200, Olivier Tilloy escribió:

> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 1:43 PM,   wrote:
>   I have in the HOME of phablet some tree with HTML (...) files:
> >
> > Oh, sorry, I was a bit too brief - I thought you had been down the route of 
> > handwritten .desktop's before.
> >
> > You put this in a new file here:
> > ~/.local/share/application/
> > e.g.,
> >
> > ~/.local/share/application/MyWebContainer.desktop
> >
> > 

> 
> Thanks for that useful tip!
> 
> I can confirm that browsing local HTML files won’t work in the browser.
> This is an unfortunate side-effect of confining the browser with
> apparmor to prevent disclosing sensitive information (previously the
> browser ran unconfined and one could view the contents of all files on
> the filesystem).
> 
> 

Putting this idea more general: can I used such a *.desktop file to
launch a shell script in /home/phablet, for example one with the lines:

#!/bin/sh 

cd /media/phablet/*/Maps
nohup python3 -m http.server  &

Thanks

matthias

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[Ubuntu-phone] Video scope & Youtube

[André Fettouhi]

I have a Meizu MX4 running Ubuntu Touch with update OTA-10 now and since
OTA-9.1 the Video scope has been partly broken. It shows you the popular
videos from Youtube and Vimeo but if you select a youtube video you just
get a blank page. This before you it usually opens the browser. Vimeo on
the other hand works fine. If you select a Vimeo video you a the
description etc. and then you select it and the browser opens. Not anymore
with the Youtube videos.

What it is also rather irritation currently with Ubuntu Touch is the flaky
video playback mostly again from Youtube sometimes when try to playback a
video you may not get any picture just sound and sometimes it is reverse. I
don't know if this caused by the Ubuntu Touch backend or by the app I might
be using like the uReadIt app.

Finally I find a bit strange that Ubuntu now includes Dekko as the mail
client which is great but the gmail scope still only offers to open an
e-mail in gmail web app.

Kind Regards

André Fettouhi
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