[Unattended] FYI: Problems with FC2 and unattended

2004-11-15 Thread Jordan Share
So, I have a lot of lab machines.  Some of them had Fedora Core 2 
installed on them, and I wanted to instead install Windows (2000 and XP) 
on them instead.

Naturally, I used our unattended setup to kick off the install. 
Everything went fine until the first reboot (when you start booting into 
windows for the first time, so that it can install).

Windows would never boot.  I couldn't get it to boot no matter what I did. 
 I reinstall FC2, and that booted fine.  This was on 2 different 
motherboards, and 5 machines total, all with this problem.

Finally, I decided to just dd /dev/zero over the first 8megs of the disk, 
and try reinstalling.   Boom, everything works just as you'd expect it to.

I talked to some friends, and they said there was a known bug with parted 
and FC2.  A little web research found me this:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00908.html

So, I think that even when parted is told to fully wipe and repartition 
the drive, it does not update the geometry in the partition table, which 
causes Windows to freak out, and not boot.  If there just is no partition 
table (say, if it is all zeros :), then parted creates one, and all is well.

-=-=-
Woops.  Ok, so in the process of writing the above, I decided to do a bit 
more research.  And found this:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-parted/2004-07/msg1.html

So, looks like you all already knew. :)  Anyway, I didn't remember seeing 
anything on the list, so I guess I'll go ahead and send it.

Perhaps Unattended can wipe the partition table, at least if you tell it 
to Use Whole Disk ?

Jordan
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Re: [Unattended] Unattended GUI demo available

2004-11-15 Thread Niels S. Richthof
Hi Tomasz!

 However, There is a GPL project called WPKG - 
 http://wpkg.sourceforge.net - which aims to install/upgrade/remove 
 software/packages after the machine was installed.

I know wpkg since it was a first idea on our mailinglist and long 
before it became a SF-project.

The problem is that wpkg does not use the work invested in 
unattended. And I don't like XML.

cu
Niels
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Re: [Unattended] creating a backup server using cp command??

2004-11-15 Thread Brian Mathis
Felipe Navarrete wrote:
I have a server that I use for unattended installs and would like to mirror
it to another server and have it update automatically using a cron job.
If anyone has a best practice for accomplishing this please let me know.
My current plan is to mount the samba share from the new machine and
use the cp command to copy the files update any new or updated files
from a crontab regularly daily at 3am or so.
Sounds like a job for rsync.  rsync will only copy things that have 
changed, so it will save you a lot of time and bandwidth.

http://rsync.samba.org/
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Re: [Unattended] creating a backup server using cp command??

2004-11-15 Thread Gerhard Hofmann
Brian Mathis wrote:
Felipe Navarrete wrote:
I have a server that I use for unattended installs and would like to 
mirror
it to another server and have it update automatically using a cron job.
If anyone has a best practice for accomplishing this please let me know.
My current plan is to mount the samba share from the new machine and
use the cp command to copy the files update any new or updated files
from a crontab regularly daily at 3am or so.

Sounds like a job for rsync.  rsync will only copy things that have 
changed, so it will save you a lot of time and bandwidth.

http://rsync.samba.org/
Also promising (but haven't tested myself...): unison 
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/

Regards
Gerhard

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Re: [Unattended] tightvnc - setting password + starting as a service - how?

2004-11-15 Thread Paul Kopacz
Czesc,

What you want to do is install TightVNC on a machine and configure it
(set the password, etc.)  Then, using regedit, export the branch
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL which is what will contain all your
settings, to a file.  After your unattended install of TightVNC, run
regedit.exe /s yourfilefromabove.reg and those settings will apply.

For something a little more interesting, you can do what I do:
I don't actually want to install the viewer, just the server.  In
fact, I don't want the person to even know that VNC is installed (no
icons, program group, tray icon).  Instead of using the installer,
just make a directory in Program Files, copy over the files
VNCHooks.dll and winvnc.exe.  Then apply the registry settings (which
can include the DisableTrayIcon=dword:0001 setting in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3 branch to keep the tray icon
from appearing.  Then run %ProgramFiles%\VNC\WinVNC.exe -install
(make sure you give it the full path to the WinVNC executable.  This
will install it as a service to start automatically then next time the
machine starts up.

Good luck,

Paul Kopacz


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Re: [Unattended] Unattended GUI demo available

2004-11-15 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Niels S. Richthof wrote:
Hi Tomasz!

However, There is a GPL project called WPKG - 
http://wpkg.sourceforge.net - which aims to install/upgrade/remove 
software/packages after the machine was installed.

I know wpkg since it was a first idea on our mailinglist and long 
before it became a SF-project.

The problem is that wpkg does not use the work invested in 
unattended. And I don't like XML.
There is a project called Adamoto - http://adamoto.sourceforge.net/ - 
which has similar aims, and seems to be more sophisticated (at least in 
requirements - it requires Java installed both on server and client, 
Tomcat server etc. - I'm still struggling with installing it on my 
machine for tests - can't force Tomcat to interpret perl).

Anyway.
I didn't say WPKG is perfect - as it of course has it's limitations. 
Consider XML as a way of describing configurations in a file - that's 
just it, nothing more, nothing less.
And I don't understand what you mean by wpkg does not use the work 
invested in unattended? It can be easily adapted for unattended.

So far we don't have much choice - it's hard to believe, but since 2000 
when Microsoft released Windows 2000 Server and Active Directory with 
Global Policies, Open Source didn't create any real alternative (if we 
talk about deploying software to a group of machines).

All we need would be some check-software-on-server.exe or .msi, which 
would be installed and configured by Unattended, started as a service on 
a Windows machine, and then would check configuration on a server from 
time to time (on boot?) to see if it should install / remove / update 
some software.
WPKG comes close to that.

You also mentioned One solution might be a Win32-Service Application, 
running with system and network rights, which performs these checks and 
starts the update procedure, and then followed by a post from Mario 
Gzuk, but I'm afraid I didn't understand fully what you both meant :)

Any chance it could end up in Unattended GUI (or let it be command line) 
- so that you could configure groups of hosts, and then manage software 
installed on them?

Tomek

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