Re: [Unattended] Obtaining values from a spreadsheet

2004-03-25 Thread Russell Smith
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:51 am, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote:
 The question is whether to leave this as an example or to make it (or
 something like it) the default.

There appears to be a larger number of options that people want to support 
each day.  If we have 10 different options for people to choose about how 
they store their data, which one should be default?

I assume this is sort of where you question is going Patrick.  This is why I 
still think you are better off leaving the default as answering the 
questions.  Create information in the documentation about how to copy 
config-sql.pl, or config-txt.pl to config.pl.  And what information you have 
to supply in the relevant files.  This will mean people don't need to know 
how to use perl, just how to copy files :)

I've found 2 bits that are hard with unattended;

1. Getting all the apps going by themselves
2. Getting it all to boot by itself, not user intervention (Spreadsheet, PXE)

Thinking out loud gabble
Usually people will want to sort out applications before worrying about how 
the machine boots, because they will be there testing everything.  But then 
again, maybe they don't want to answer questions while doing that.
/Thinking out loud gabble

So with a number of options arising, SQL, LDAP, txt, csv.  My thoughts are 
that people can just copy the relevant file over config.pl if so desired.

Regards

Russell Smith.


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Re: [Unattended] Obtaining values from a spreadsheet

2004-03-24 Thread Shad L. Lords
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From: Russell Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 This is a helpful and useful Idea, however I'm not 100% sure making it
default
 is easiest/best.  Having a set of configs that people can just copy in to
 make things work would probably be helpful.  But Others, like myself will
 want to mix and match.

The way the sample-config.pl that I wrote is just an extension to the
questions that already exists.  If any of the fields are blank or it can't
find a record with matching MAC then it falls back to the question.  This
makes it so you don't loose any functionality but gain the ability to to have
lookup tables.  If we integrate this into the default behavior I would assume
that it would behave similar.  Also by integrating it into the base
distribution, if you don't like the behavior you can still override it by
writing your own config.pl like you have done.  Personally I don't see this
changing anyones installation but will give the ability to manage entries to
those that aren't comfortable writing perl.

-Shad



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RE: [Unattended] Obtaining values from a spreadsheet

2004-03-24 Thread Stephan Lampe [ITXP]
  Having a set of configs that people can 
  just copy in to
  make things work would probably be helpful.  But Others, 
  like myself will want to mix and match.
 

snip

 but will give the ability to 
 manage entries to
 those that aren't comfortable writing perl.
 


For me it has major advantages, so I'm supportive for these kind of sample's

(untill I understand the perl part enough)

This system (way of life ?) is capable of a lot, and it takes some time to
figure it all out.
Any help is welcome ;)

 
GreetZ,
 
Stephan



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RE: [Unattended] Obtaining values from a spreadsheet

2004-03-24 Thread Brad Erdman
Hi,

Just some ideas.  I am not much of a coder so I can't really offer samples.

Everyone is going to want to do things differently.  Would it be possible to
offer a variety of mechanism (spreadsheet(s), SQL, text file, etc.) to store
the relent information?  A configuration file or config.pl could specify
what mechanism will be used for that particular site.  Support for each
could be added incrementally.

I personally would like to store the information in AD (LDAP).


My 2 cents
Brad


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