Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-06 Thread Michael Everson
Steve Jobs made so much possible for so many. I can hardly imagine my work with 
Unicode or as a publisher without his innovation. 

Farewell, Steve. 

Oṁ maṇi padme hūṁ.

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/





Re: Civil suit; ftp shutdown; mailing list shutdown

2011-10-06 Thread Martin J. Dürst
[By accident, I sent this only to Ken first; he recommended I send it to 
both Unicode and Unicore.]


I have sent a mail to a relevant IETF list (apps-disc...@ietf.org); the 
IETF was looking into taking this over, with 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database-04, but 
apparently, Unicode got alerted first.


In terms of practical matters, two points seem important to me:

First, to ask the judge for a temporary permission (there's a better 
legal term, but IANAL) to keep the database up until the law suit is 
settled (because the database is probably down now due to a temporary 
order from the judge to that effect) because of its high practical 
importance.


Second, what seems to be in dispute is data about old history. While 
this is important for some applications, in most applications, present 
and new data is much more important, so one way to avoid problems would 
be to publish only new data at some new place until the case is settled. 
That would mean that applications would have to be checked for whether 
they need the old data or not. Or to only publish diffs (which would be 
about new, present-day data not from the source under litigation).


Regards,   Martin.

On 2011/10/07 4:45, Ken Lunde wrote:

Arle and others,

The URL for the following blog post was tweeted a few minutes ago:

   http://blog.joda.org/2011/10/today-time-zone-database-was-closed.html

-- Ken

On Oct 6, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Arle Lommel wrote:


Is there any public information about the lawsuit? I was stunned to see the 
forwarded mail and want to understand the implications of this lawsuit, but I 
can't find any news about it other than Arthur’s rather telegraphic note. I 
understand that he may not be able to comment given pending litigation, but if 
we had any information at all about what the suit is, it might help clarify if 
there is any need for concern.

-Arle


It would be nice, but I don't think the Consortium can do that without first 
understanding if it gets exposed to its own lawsuit.

Eric.