Unihan database

2012-04-13 Thread Martin Heijdra
Librarians are certainly a group of users using Unihan a lot, to identify 
encodings for rare characters.

Several of them have complained that it gets more and more difficult to use for 
them. One issue is, that the database itself started to use encodings rather 
than images; which made it impossible to find characters in versions their 
standard SimSun fonts did not support. That of course had a solution; they 
should now choose “use images”.

But now they report that the radical-stroke page itself has changed to 
encodings rather than images; and the radicals are not in the standard fonts. 
Hence, the search pages (clicking on the number of strokes of the radical)  
shows something like

[cid:image001.png@01CD1970.6D5040E0]

Can there be a change so that also these pages (based upon the number of 
strokes of the radical) has an option to show these pages, not only the result, 
have a “display with images” option?

Martin J. Heijdra
Chinese Studies/East Asian Studies Bibliographer
East Asian Library and the Gest Collection
Frist Campus Center, Room 314
Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08544
United States
inline: image001.png

Re: Unihan database

2012-04-13 Thread John H. Jenkins
Yes, this is very much possible, although I can't predict how soon we'll get it 
done.

Martin Heijdra mheij...@princeton.edu 於 2012年4月13日 上午10:26 寫道:

 Librarians are certainly a group of users using Unihan a lot, to identify 
 encodings for rare characters.
  
 Several of them have complained that it gets more and more difficult to use 
 for them. One issue is, that the database itself started to use encodings 
 rather than images; which made it impossible to find characters in versions 
 their standard SimSun fonts did not support. That of course had a solution; 
 they should now choose “use images”.
  
 But now they report that the radical-stroke page itself has changed to 
 encodings rather than images; and the radicals are not in the standard fonts. 
 Hence, the search pages (clicking on the number of strokes of the radical)  
 shows something like
  
 image001.png
  
 Can there be a change so that also these pages (based upon the number of 
 strokes of the radical) has an option to show these pages, not only the 
 result, have a “display with images” option?
  
 Martin J. Heijdra
 Chinese Studies/East Asian Studies Bibliographer 
 East Asian Library and the Gest Collection 
 Frist Campus Center, Room 314 
 Princeton University 
 Princeton, NJ 08544 
 United States

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John H. Jenkins
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Re: [unicode] Unihan database

2012-04-13 Thread suzuki toshiya
I think this comment is related with the current implementation of SimSun.
Why don't you try to install the free fonts that can support the missing
characters? From the viewpoint of an user over the distant network,
the images-by-default is worse in some cases...

Regards,
mpsuzuki

Martin Heijdra wrote:
 Librarians are certainly a group of users using Unihan a lot, to identify 
 encodings for rare characters.
 
 Several of them have complained that it gets more and more difficult to use 
 for them. One issue is, that the database itself started to use encodings 
 rather than images; which made it impossible to find characters in versions 
 their standard SimSun fonts did not support. That of course had a solution; 
 they should now choose “use images”.
 
 But now they report that the radical-stroke page itself has changed to 
 encodings rather than images; and the radicals are not in the standard fonts. 
 Hence, the search pages (clicking on the number of strokes of the radical)  
 shows something like
 
 [cid:image001.png@01CD1970.6D5040E0]
 
 Can there be a change so that also these pages (based upon the number of 
 strokes of the radical) has an option to show these pages, not only the 
 result, have a “display with images” option?
 
 Martin J. Heijdra
 Chinese Studies/East Asian Studies Bibliographer
 East Asian Library and the Gest Collection
 Frist Campus Center, Room 314
 Princeton University
 Princeton, NJ 08544
 United States




Re: Unihan database

2012-04-13 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2012-04-13, Martin Heijdra mheij...@princeton.edu wrote:
 But now they report that the radical-stroke page itself has changed
 to encodings rather than images; and the radicals are not in the
 standard fonts. Hence, the search pages (clicking on the number of
 strokes of the radical)  shows something like

Ouch. Yes, the radicals aren't in the arial that's the default font
on my Linux system, so now I can't use radical search either.
Firefox font configuration is, um, not totally documented, either, so
I don't even know if it's possible to tell it to use a different font
for the radical block.


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RE: [unicode] Unihan database

2012-04-13 Thread Martin Heijdra
Yes, I know there are other possibilities--but in a work environment, we are 
not always free to download, install, replace... 

Thank you, John, for looking into this.

Martin

-Original Message-
From: suzuki toshiya [mailto:mpsuz...@hiroshima-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 1:12 PM
To: Martin Heijdra
Cc: unicode@unicode.org
Subject: Re: [unicode] Unihan database

I think this comment is related with the current implementation of SimSun.
Why don't you try to install the free fonts that can support the missing 
characters? From the viewpoint of an user over the distant network, the 
images-by-default is worse in some cases...

Regards,
mpsuzuki

Martin Heijdra wrote:
 Librarians are certainly a group of users using Unihan a lot, to identify 
 encodings for rare characters.
 
 Several of them have complained that it gets more and more difficult to use 
 for them. One issue is, that the database itself started to use encodings 
 rather than images; which made it impossible to find characters in versions 
 their standard SimSun fonts did not support. That of course had a solution; 
 they should now choose “use images”.
 
 But now they report that the radical-stroke page itself has changed to 
 encodings rather than images; and the radicals are not in the standard 
 fonts. Hence, the search pages (clicking on the number of strokes of 
 the radical)  shows something like
 
 [cid:image001.png@01CD1970.6D5040E0]
 
 Can there be a change so that also these pages (based upon the number of 
 strokes of the radical) has an option to show these pages, not only the 
 result, have a “display with images” option?
 
 Martin J. Heijdra
 Chinese Studies/East Asian Studies Bibliographer East Asian Library 
 and the Gest Collection Frist Campus Center, Room 314 Princeton 
 University Princeton, NJ 08544 United States