Re: Bangla
Somebody (Probably Omi Azad) informed me that Microsoft is developing OCR for Bangla. I have doubt in it, as MS is busy in many other things and Bangla market is not so critical to them.On the other hand they have not developed any OCR for any language-why they will do it for Bangla? However two universities of Bangladesh namely BRAC and Jahangirnagar is jojntly working on a project financed by a Candian NGO named Pan Asian Network. The project is yet to start. They have OCR in their agenda. MJ Quoting Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Towheed Chowdhury [EMAIL PROTECTED] How bangla ocr can be developed using current unicode? ISO/IEC 10646 and Unicode are just standard for character encoding, not for their rendering and presentation. OCR is a difficult problem, but it has nothing in common with characters encoding, as it is an analysis of glyphs. Generally, good OCR recognition is difficult to automate without specific fonts with simplified or slightly altered (but still readable) glyphs. This is not a problem of Unicode. What Unicode has done is only to add some characters that were used in the OCR context (such as symbols on checks, that were created and printed specially for OCR systems, but had no prior meaning in the linguistic and plain-text area: in Unicode these special glyphs are coded as distinctive symbols with their own code points. OCR already has difficulties to recognize accents on modern Latin, Greek or Cyrillic letters, and it does not work well with other scripts (it works with unpointed Hebrew, but fails with Arabic due to the complex joining behavior and too small glyphic differences between glyphs in the most widely used typographic variants of the Arabic script.) I don't know if there has been attempt to recognize Devanagari in India. Hiragana and Katakan may work well in OCR, but generally Japanese texts contain lots of Han ideographs that are very difficult to recognize with OCR due to their graphic complexity. May be there's OCR working with Hangul basic Jamos (written linerarily, instead of with syllabic squares). In all these case, the target encoding when parsing a scanned image of a text is not the issue, as the difficulty is in recognizing abstract characters from many distinct glyph shapes that will alwyas exhibit slight variations when scanned from a printed paper. So you want to search in India if there exists some works to read Devanagari printed texts with OCR (Devenagari is difficult to parse too, like Arabic, because glyphs are most often joined, and this creates difficulties to separate letters or letter parts. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Re: Mother Language Day
21st February can be observed as Unicode day as this coding system is including all the mother languages in one code. Mustafa Jabbar Quoting Don Osborn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for this. The usual observance of IMLD is 21 February, but the more days the better! (Apparently a ceremony at UNESCO will be on 2/23.) I had trouble accessing the URL you provided. The UNESCO page is http://www.unesco.org/education/IMLD2004 . It would be great to get an ICT angle introduced in future observances, including of course, Unicode. Don Osborn Bisharat.net - Original Message - From: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Mother Language Day 23 February is the fifth International Mother Language Day. See http://tinyurl.com/2fdzc for details. -- Verbogeny is one of the pleasurettesJohn Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] of a creatific thinkerizer. http://www.reutershealth.com -- Peter da Silvahttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Re: Mother Language Day
The information is not correct. it is 21 February, not 23 February, International Mother Language Day. On this day 1952 Bengali speaking Barkat, Rafique, Shafique and Jabbar was killed by the Pakistani police force. It was being observed as the Martyrs Day since that time. Mustafa Jabbar Quoting John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 23 February is the fifth International Mother Language Day. See http://tinyurl.com/2fdzc for details. -- Verbogeny is one of the pleasurettesJohn Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] of a creatific thinkerizer. http://www.reutershealth.com -- Peter da Silvahttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Re: Sort Order
Please also inform me about what will be the sorting for Bangla. Thanks and regards Mustafa Jabbar Quoting Gupta, Rohit4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, We are using UNICODE for representing Japanese characters. Will the Japanese characters be sorted according to: a) There order in the Japanese character set OR b) Order of their listing in the UNICODE representation. OR c) The result of the two approaches above be the same. Request you to please advise on the same. Thanks Regards, Rohit -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Re: Unicode for Windows CE
Thanks for the link. It is good to know that MSKLC can be used for creating Keyboard Driver for WinCE. But is it true only truetype fonts can be used. No OTF? Thanks and refgares Mustafa Jabbar Quoting Christopher John Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Suggest you check the Global Development pages at Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/default.mspx (links on the right of the page) and http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/getwr/wincei18n.mspx to find out about Unicode Support in Windows CE, Windows CE fonts and creating keyboard layouts (IME) for Win CE. You could have found this out in an instant by searching for: Windows CE Unicode on Microsoft's web site. -- Christopher J. Fynn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 4:51 AM Subject: Unicode for Windows CE Dear all, Can anyone tell me how I can have Unicode support in Windows CE. What are the tools for creating OTF and Keyboard Driver? Thanks and regards Mustafa Jabbar - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Unicode for Windows CE
Dear all, Can anyone tell me how I can have Unicode support in Windows CE. What are the tools for creating OTF and Keyboard Driver? Thanks and regards Mustafa Jabbar - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Re: numeric properties of Nl characters in the UCD
Can anyone let me know how I can create OTF fonts for Windows CE and have a keyboard driver for input characters like Bangla. Thanks and regards Mustafa Jabbar - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
RE: How can I have OTF for MacOS
But what about devnagri or Bangla. Thanks and regards Mustafa Jabbar Quoting Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Everson Microsoft Office on OS X does not support Unicode. My understanding is that Word for Mac in MS Office Mac versions since Office 98 have used the same file format as Windows versions -- Word 97 and later. That means that Word for Mac can read files containing any Unicode characters. Input and rendering, however, are limited to legacy codepages supported by the Mac OS. Thus, e.g. you should be able to work with Chinese text (at least some Chinese characters), but you wouldn't be able to work with Ethiopic text. Peter Peter Constable Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies Microsoft Windows Division - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
RE: How can I have OTF for MacOS
I want to use those for Desktop Publishing including MS Office for Mac, Quark Xpress for Mac, Adobe apps etc. Thanks and regards Mustafa Jabbar Quoting Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher John Fynn With complex scripts like Bangla under Mac OSX I think you have to make AAT fonts rather than OT fonts - though it is possible to include both AAT tables and OT tables in the same font. Whether you want AAT fonts or OT fonts will depend on the application you want to use: some use one, some the other, and some neither. Peter Peter Constable Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies Microsoft Windows Division -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Re: How can I have OTF for MacOS
Dear Fynn, Thanks for the information. I hope it will help me in dveloping fonts. I have downloaded the Tool. But how can I can create a Keyboard driver for accessing the Fonts? Thanks and regards Mustafa Jabbar Quoting Christopher John Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mustafa With complex scripts like Bangla under Mac OSX I think you have to make AAT fonts rather than OT fonts - though it is possible to include both AAT tables and OT tables in the same font. For tools specs to do this try: http://developer.apple.com/fonts/OSXTools.html Christopher J. Fynn From: Mustafa Jabbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, Can you tell me how I can develop a Keyboard Driver and OTF Fonts for MacOS. Mustafa Jabbar -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Macintosh Keyboard Layout Creator
I am looking for a Keyboard Layout Creator for Roman Unicode Character for Mac OS X. Can anyone suggest me? Thanks and regards Mustafa Jabbar - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo
What logo should be used in a software which support Unicode Codes? MJ Quoting Magda Danish (Unicode) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Unicoders, Very often the Unicode Consortium has received requests from webmasters who wished to indicate with a logo or banner that their site supports or uses Unicode. For such purposes we have developed two logos that can be freely displayed on web sites. You can use a Unicode Savvy logo to indicate that a page (or collection of pages) is encoded in Unicode. To learn more and to obtain an image of these logos, please refer to http://www.unicode.org/consortium/unisavvy.html. Thank you and best regards, Magda Danish Administrative Director The Unicode Consortium 650-693-3921 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - This mail sent through bangla.net, The First Online Internet Service Provider In Bangladesh
