Re: Chess symbol glyphs in code charts

2015-08-14 Thread Ken Whistler

Garth,

The glyphs for the chess symbols in the 26XX block date from
Unicode 3.0. Most of the symbols redesigned for the Unicode 3.0
charts were done by John M. Fiscella. (See the font acknowledgements
on p. iv of Unicode 3.0.) I do not know which predecessor designs
Fiscella might ultimately have based his designs on.

The *actual* font used in the chart production is some in house
chart font, possibly tweaked over the years for various specific
glyphs, although it doesn't appear to me on first inspection that
any of the chess symbol glyphs per se have had any workover since the
Unicode 3.0 publication. The chart fonts are in house, used with
special licenses specific to Unicode chart production, and with all
sorts of chart-specific quirks. So even if I did attempt to track down
specifically which font was involved for the current Unicode 26XX
block for the 2654..265F range of glyphs, knowing that wouldn't
actually help much for your question, I think.

--Ken

On 8/14/2015 11:31 AM, Garth Wallace wrote:

Can anyone tell me what font is used for the chess symbols in the code
chart for the Miscellaneous Symbols block? It looks a lot like Chess
Merida but I can't be certain.





Re: Chess symbol glyphs in code charts

2015-08-14 Thread Garth Wallace
Would it be acceptable if I extracted the font from the code chart PDF
and used it as the basis for one in a proposal I'm working on? The
proposal covers rotated and half-black half-white chess symbols, which
should match the shapes of the existing ones, and compound symbols,
which should harmonize.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Ken Whistler kenwhist...@att.net wrote:
 Garth,

 The glyphs for the chess symbols in the 26XX block date from
 Unicode 3.0. Most of the symbols redesigned for the Unicode 3.0
 charts were done by John M. Fiscella. (See the font acknowledgements
 on p. iv of Unicode 3.0.) I do not know which predecessor designs
 Fiscella might ultimately have based his designs on.

 The *actual* font used in the chart production is some in house
 chart font, possibly tweaked over the years for various specific
 glyphs, although it doesn't appear to me on first inspection that
 any of the chess symbol glyphs per se have had any workover since the
 Unicode 3.0 publication. The chart fonts are in house, used with
 special licenses specific to Unicode chart production, and with all
 sorts of chart-specific quirks. So even if I did attempt to track down
 specifically which font was involved for the current Unicode 26XX
 block for the 2654..265F range of glyphs, knowing that wouldn't
 actually help much for your question, I think.

 --Ken


 On 8/14/2015 11:31 AM, Garth Wallace wrote:

 Can anyone tell me what font is used for the chess symbols in the code
 chart for the Miscellaneous Symbols block? It looks a lot like Chess
 Merida but I can't be certain.




Re: Chess symbol glyphs in code charts

2015-08-14 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)

  
  
On 8/14/2015 11:50 AM, Ken Whistler
  wrote:

Garth,
  
  
  The glyphs for the chess symbols in the 26XX block date from
  
  Unicode 3.0. Most of the symbols redesigned for the Unicode 3.0
  
  charts were done by John M. Fiscella. (See the font
  acknowledgements
  
  on p. iv of Unicode 3.0.) I do not know which predecessor designs
  
  Fiscella might ultimately have based his designs on.
  


It's not Chess Merida, because if you look closely you'll see some
of the pieces
are narrower in the chart fonts. But otherwise the designs are very
similar.

A./

  
  The *actual* font used in the chart production is some in house
  
  chart font, possibly tweaked over the years for various specific
  
  glyphs, although it doesn't appear to me on first inspection that
  
  any of the chess symbol glyphs per se have had any workover since
  the
  
  Unicode 3.0 publication. The chart fonts are in house, used with
  
  special licenses specific to Unicode chart production, and with
  all
  
  sorts of chart-specific quirks. So even if I did attempt to track
  down
  
  specifically which font was involved for the current Unicode 26XX
  
  block for the 2654..265F range of glyphs, knowing that wouldn't
  
  actually help much for your question, I think.
  
  
  --Ken
  
  
  On 8/14/2015 11:31 AM, Garth Wallace wrote:
  
  Can anyone tell me what font is used for
the chess symbols in the code

chart for the Miscellaneous Symbols block? It looks a lot like
Chess

Merida but I can't be certain.


  
  
  


  



Chess symbol glyphs in code charts

2015-08-14 Thread Garth Wallace
Can anyone tell me what font is used for the chess symbols in the code
chart for the Miscellaneous Symbols block? It looks a lot like Chess
Merida but I can't be certain.


Re: Chess symbol glyphs in code charts

2015-08-14 Thread Hans Ã…berg

 On 14 Aug 2015, at 20:31, Garth Wallace gwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can anyone tell me what font is used for the chess symbols in the code
 chart for the Miscellaneous Symbols block? It looks a lot like Chess
 Merida but I can't be certain.

They are quite close to Apple Symbols, but not exactly the same.




Re: Chess symbol glyphs in code charts

2015-08-14 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)

  
  
On 8/14/2015 1:26 PM, Garth Wallace
  wrote:


  Would it be acceptable if I extracted the font from the code chart PDF


Extraction of chart font is never acceptable and violates
the Terms of Use. No exceptions.


  
and used it as the basis for one in a proposal I'm working on?


For a proposal you can use any font that you have rights to. 

   The
proposal covers rotated and half-black half-white chess symbols, which
should match the shapes of the existing ones, and compound symbols,
which should harmonize.


Just state what the intent is, and I'm sure the details of what the
actual glyphs will be that go into future charts can be worked out.

A./

  

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Ken Whistler kenwhist...@att.net wrote:

  
Garth,

The glyphs for the chess symbols in the 26XX block date from
Unicode 3.0. Most of the symbols redesigned for the Unicode 3.0
charts were done by John M. Fiscella. (See the font acknowledgements
on p. iv of Unicode 3.0.) I do not know which predecessor designs
Fiscella might ultimately have based his designs on.

The *actual* font used in the chart production is some in house
chart font, possibly tweaked over the years for various specific
glyphs, although it doesn't appear to me on first inspection that
any of the chess symbol glyphs per se have had any workover since the
Unicode 3.0 publication. The chart fonts are in house, used with
special licenses specific to Unicode chart production, and with all
sorts of chart-specific quirks. So even if I did attempt to track down
specifically which font was involved for the current Unicode 26XX
block for the 2654..265F range of glyphs, knowing that wouldn't
actually help much for your question, I think.

--Ken


On 8/14/2015 11:31 AM, Garth Wallace wrote:


  
Can anyone tell me what font is used for the chess symbols in the code
chart for the Miscellaneous Symbols block? It looks a lot like Chess
Merida but I can't be certain.