Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout‹IEAOU
Indeed, Dvorak distributes the home row burden across both hands, vowels on left most common consonants on right. Also, there are one-handed variations of Dvorak for both left and right hands, but unlike the proposal below the main hand¹s home row is centered on the keyboard. I too am a happy Dvorak user, for 16 years. jk -- Joel Kalvesmaki Editor in Byzantine Studies Dumbarton Oaks 202 339 6435 On 1/25/15, 8:22 PM, Martin J. Dürst due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: What's better on this keyboard when compared to the Dvorak layout? At first sight, it looks heavily right-handed, all the letters that the Dvorak keyboard has on the homerow are on the right hand. Regards, Martin. P.S.: I'm a happy Dvorak user. On 2015/01/26 06:54, Robert Wheelock wrote: Hello! I came up with a BRAND-NEW keyboard layout designed to make typing easier‹‹named the IEAOU (ee-eh-ah-oh-oo) System‹based on letter frequencies. The letters in the new IEAOU layout are arranged as follows: (TOP): Digits / Punctuation / Accents (MEDIAL): Q Y :|; W |' L N D T S H +|= \|! (HOME): X K G F ´|` P I E A O U (BOTTOM): C J Z V B M R |, |. ?|/ Please respond to air what you¹d think of it. Thank You! ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU
Robert, I certainly agree with Philip about typing with a cat on my lap! I use one hand for the cat, one for the mouse... What I don't understand in the right hand layout is the placement of the letter P. Given the English letter frequency ETAOIN SHRDLU, the letter T, N, or S would make more sense. Putting T and N in the same row with E, A O, and moving P and U would minimize row changing in typing English. An obvious idea to me if you really want a 1 handed keyboard for languages is ETAOIN , in the Home Row and SHRDLU. above it, and the remaining consonants below or to the left of the upper 2 rows of characters. Also, my life would be easier if you had dyad keys, such as TH or ES or ED. Again, look at the dyad frequenecy maps, but I suggest you try minimize row changing during single words as much as possible. - - - On a side note, since I am progressively losing the use of my outer fingers to osteoarthritis, Dragon 13.5 is a far better solution for me than a new keyboard. Thanks for the stimulus. Clive On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Very strange layout of the bottom row. Note that if your layout is visiblly otimized for the right hand (mostly for those that use only one hand to type; so that the left part contains only the least used keys), I doubt that this really works well for typing just with one hand: those same users will also not use more than two fingers and the 5th finger (to the rightmost part of the keyboard) will still be hard to type. I dont understnd the nwhy you placed punctuations mixed beteen letters on the left part and the media row, I would have kept them to the rightmost part (colon/semicolon key, and single/double quotes key. Now if users will try to use both hands, then your left/right separation does not work so well And the letter C is evidently badly placed, more difficult to reach than the letters J Z V B (for English this C keys at least should be shifted to the middle; where it would also be more accessible for one-hand typists, or one-finger typists) 2015-01-25 22:54 GMT+01:00 Robert Wheelock rwhlk...@gmail.com: Hello! I came up with a BRAND-NEW keyboard layout designed to make typing easier——named the IEAOU (ee-eh-ah-oh-oo) System—based on letter frequencies. The letters in the new IEAOU layout are arranged as follows: (TOP): Digits / Punctuation / Accents (MEDIAL): Q Y :|; W |' L N D T S H +|= \|! (HOME): X K G F ´|` P I E A O U (BOTTOM): C J Z V B M R |, |. ?|/ Please respond to air what you’d think of it. Thank You! ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode -- Clive P. Hohberger, PhD MBA Managing Director Clive Hohberger, LLC +1 847 910 8794 cp...@case.edu ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU
Very strange layout of the bottom row. Note that if your layout is visiblly otimized for the right hand (mostly for those that use only one hand to type; so that the left part contains only the least used keys), I doubt that this really works well for typing just with one hand: those same users will also not use more than two fingers and the 5th finger (to the rightmost part of the keyboard) will still be hard to type. I dont understnd the nwhy you placed punctuations mixed beteen letters on the left part and the media row, I would have kept them to the rightmost part (colon/semicolon key, and single/double quotes key. Now if users will try to use both hands, then your left/right separation does not work so well And the letter C is evidently badly placed, more difficult to reach than the letters J Z V B (for English this C keys at least should be shifted to the middle; where it would also be more accessible for one-hand typists, or one-finger typists) 2015-01-25 22:54 GMT+01:00 Robert Wheelock rwhlk...@gmail.com: Hello! I came up with a BRAND-NEW keyboard layout designed to make typing easier——named the IEAOU (ee-eh-ah-oh-oo) System—based on letter frequencies. The letters in the new IEAOU layout are arranged as follows: (TOP): Digits / Punctuation / Accents (MEDIAL): Q Y :|; W |' L N D T S H +|= \|! (HOME): X K G F ´|` P I E A O U (BOTTOM): C J Z V B M R |, |. ?|/ Please respond to air what you’d think of it. Thank You! ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU
Robert Wheelock rwhlk142 at gmail dot com wrote: (TOP): Digits / Punctuation / Accents This is too vague. I know this row is not identical to the top (E) row of the standard U.S. English keyboard, because you moved ` and ! and + and = to other rows. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, USA | http://ewellic.org ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU
those one-handed (end even one-fingered) keyboards exist and are widely used ! Look at smartphones ! 2015-01-26 21:33 GMT+01:00 Asmus Freytag (t) asmus-...@ix.netcom.com: On 1/26/2015 11:43 AM, Clive Hohberger wrote: Robert, I certainly agree with Philip about typing with a cat on my lap! I use one hand for the cat, one for the mouse... one handed layouts have their place - as I found out after an injury a while back. I quickly reached the point where the one handed layout was getting faster than hunting over the familiar one, but it still took more concentration, so I was glad when I could resume two-handed operation sooner than feared... A./ ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU
Le 2015-01-26 à 11:13, philip chastney philip_chast...@yahoo.com a écrit : as anybody who has tried to type with a cat on their lap will confirm, there are times when a left- or right-handed bias in the keyboard layout is a positive advantage I would then suggest the name of the keyboard to be MEOW Marc. /phil On Mon, 26/1/15, Martin J. Dürst due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: Subject: Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU To: Robert Wheelock rwhlk...@gmail.com, unicode@unicode.org unicode@unicode.org Date: Monday, 26 January, 2015, 1:22 AM What's better on this keyboard when compared to the Dvorak layout? At first sight, it looks heavily right-handed, all the letters that the Dvorak keyboard has on the homerow are on the right hand. Regards, Martin. P.S.: I'm a happy Dvorak user. On 2015/01/26 06:54, Robert Wheelock wrote: Hello! I came up with a BRAND-NEW keyboard layout designed to make typing easier——named the IEAOU (ee-eh-ah-oh-oo) System—based on letter frequencies. The letters in the new IEAOU layout are arranged as follows: (TOP): Digits / Punctuation / Accents (MEDIAL): Q Y :|; W |' L N D T S H +|= \|! (HOME): X K G F ´|` P I E A O U (BOTTOM): C J Z V B M R |, |. ?|/ Please respond to air what you’d think of it. Thank You! ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU
Well, I also frequently have to type with the left-hand only, even if I am right-handed ! my right hand is for the mouse and I'd like to avoid loosng the mouse just to type a few characters or words, such as when filling or correcting a web form where I need the mouse to click the item to edit. Then the most used keys will be on the wrong side... Dvoak keyboards (have not really addressed this issue, it was ONLY for typing faster with two hands and all fingers, and very few users can do that and they are sufficiently traiend with existing QWERTY/AZERTY/QWERTZ or ABCD keyboards for not having to sitch to another layout where their typing speed will be MUCH slower, always looking for keys for a long time; Dvorak keyboards are then only for the youngest typists that have never typed on other keyboards) Note that today many young people first learn to type on the numeric keyboard of their smartphone, with help of a dictionary predictor to avoid repeating keys or using long presses... They can't even type efficiently on QWERTY/AZERTY/QWERTZ or ABCD keyboards ! 2015-01-26 20:43 GMT+01:00 Clive Hohberger cp...@case.edu: Robert, I certainly agree with Philip about typing with a cat on my lap! I use one hand for the cat, one for the mouse... What I don't understand in the right hand layout is the placement of the letter P. Given the English letter frequency ETAOIN SHRDLU, the letter T, N, or S would make more sense. Putting T and N in the same row with E, A O, and moving P and U would minimize row changing in typing English. An obvious idea to me if you really want a 1 handed keyboard for languages is ETAOIN , in the Home Row and SHRDLU. above it, and the remaining consonants below or to the left of the upper 2 rows of characters. Also, my life would be easier if you had dyad keys, such as TH or ES or ED. Again, look at the dyad frequenecy maps, but I suggest you try minimize row changing during single words as much as possible. - - - On a side note, since I am progressively losing the use of my outer fingers to osteoarthritis, Dragon 13.5 is a far better solution for me than a new keyboard. Thanks for the stimulus. Clive On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Very strange layout of the bottom row. Note that if your layout is visiblly otimized for the right hand (mostly for those that use only one hand to type; so that the left part contains only the least used keys), I doubt that this really works well for typing just with one hand: those same users will also not use more than two fingers and the 5th finger (to the rightmost part of the keyboard) will still be hard to type. I dont understnd the nwhy you placed punctuations mixed beteen letters on the left part and the media row, I would have kept them to the rightmost part (colon/semicolon key, and single/double quotes key. Now if users will try to use both hands, then your left/right separation does not work so well And the letter C is evidently badly placed, more difficult to reach than the letters J Z V B (for English this C keys at least should be shifted to the middle; where it would also be more accessible for one-hand typists, or one-finger typists) 2015-01-25 22:54 GMT+01:00 Robert Wheelock rwhlk...@gmail.com: Hello! I came up with a BRAND-NEW keyboard layout designed to make typing easier——named the IEAOU (ee-eh-ah-oh-oo) System—based on letter frequencies. The letters in the new IEAOU layout are arranged as follows: (TOP): Digits / Punctuation / Accents (MEDIAL): Q Y :|; W |' L N D T S H +|= \|! (HOME): X K G F ´|` P I E A O U (BOTTOM): C J Z V B M R |, |. ?|/ Please respond to air what you’d think of it. Thank You! ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode -- Clive P. Hohberger, PhD MBA Managing Director Clive Hohberger, LLC +1 847 910 8794 cp...@case.edu ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU
Hello! I came up with a BRAND-NEW keyboard layout designed to make typing easier——named the IEAOU (ee-eh-ah-oh-oo) System—based on letter frequencies. The letters in the new IEAOU layout are arranged as follows: (TOP): Digits / Punctuation / Accents (MEDIAL): Q Y :|; W |' L N D T S H +|= \|! (HOME): X K G F ´|` P I E A O U (BOTTOM): C J Z V B M R |, |. ?|/ Please respond to air what you’d think of it. Thank You! ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: The NEW Keyboard Layout—IEAOU
What's better on this keyboard when compared to the Dvorak layout? At first sight, it looks heavily right-handed, all the letters that the Dvorak keyboard has on the homerow are on the right hand. Regards, Martin. P.S.: I'm a happy Dvorak user. On 2015/01/26 06:54, Robert Wheelock wrote: Hello! I came up with a BRAND-NEW keyboard layout designed to make typing easier——named the IEAOU (ee-eh-ah-oh-oo) System—based on letter frequencies. The letters in the new IEAOU layout are arranged as follows: (TOP): Digits / Punctuation / Accents (MEDIAL): Q Y :|; W |' L N D T S H +|= \|! (HOME): X K G F ´|` P I E A O U (BOTTOM): C J Z V B M R |, |. ?|/ Please respond to air what you’d think of it. Thank You! ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
