RE: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Me too.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


All right - now I'm hooked.
Looking forward to you talking about the LC interface to the real world.

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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 4/5/22 14:28, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:

Go for it. Get a headset and use a tablet. This is cool. Not as cool as a
"pancake printer" but cool none the less.


Oooo... they had one of those pancake printers set up at the Maker Faire 
a few years ago. Takes a bit of time, but... fancy pancakes. *Almost* 
hated to eat mine.


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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 4/5/22 14:25, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:


But much of the underlying power behind each of my machines is based on a small 
I/O hardware gadget that has no particular relevance to LC per se, apart from a 
software framework that supports it.

The front end is a LC stack, running in the IDE, a control panel that reads and 
writes to the gadget. The gadget reads the state of things like switches and 
controls things like motors. Perhaps this might suggest to some that a hardware 
project could be assembled using Raspberry Pi or Arduino or even a PIC, since 
my particular hardware gadget is no longer supported.


All right - now I'm hooked.
Looking forward to you talking about the LC interface to the real world.

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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I'm in. 

Bob S


> On Apr 5, 2022, at 13:36 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 4/5/22 10:36, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>> But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop. Would 
>> it be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?
> 
> Add me to the list of interested folks.
> 
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RE: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Go for it. Get a headset and use a tablet. This is cool. Not as cool as a
"pancake printer" but cool none the less.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Subject: Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

Heather.

I probably am one of the oddest LC users. Entirely for either my own use or
for my company. Only once did I sell a system commercially.

But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop. Would
it be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?

Regards,

Craig Newman  (dunbarx)



> On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode
 wrote:
> 
> Dear Good Folks of the Use-list,
> 
> I'm in the final throes of scheduling our upcoming online conference on
25-27th April. Its looking great! Multiple fabulous talks have come in,
there is loads of rich content, we have panels, keynotes and workshops
galore! We're just missing 3 flashtalks to round out the Flash Talks section
on Day 3. I know at least 3 of you good people can speak for a mere 7
minutes on your topic of choice. Roll up roll up... and send me a talk
submission :) Pretty please?
> 
> https://livecode.com/global/apply-to-speak/ 
> 
> 
> It's going to be a great event. 
> 
> Warmest Regards to all,
> 
> Heather
> 
> P.S. Where is the conference schedule to be seen, I hear you ask? Right
here:
> 
> https://livecode.com/global/schedule/
> 
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager and Conference Organizer Extraordinaire 
> LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com 
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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

I suppose I could set up a Zoom session, and get some sucker, I mean, helper to 
video me.

But much of the underlying power behind each of my machines is based on a small 
I/O hardware gadget that has no particular relevance to LC per se, apart from a 
software framework that supports it.

The front end is a LC stack, running in the IDE, a control panel that reads and 
writes to the gadget. The gadget reads the state of things like switches and 
controls things like motors. Perhaps this might suggest to some that a hardware 
project could be assembled using Raspberry Pi or Arduino or even a PIC, since 
my particular hardware gadget is no longer supported.

Anyway, for a minute or two it probably will look pretty cool, and the machine 
I have in mind is nothing if not noisy. 

Craig

> On Apr 5, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cool I'd watch your talk Craig.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 4:37 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/5/22 10:36, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop.
>> Would it be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?
>> 
>> Add me to the list of interested folks.
>> 
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>>  ahsoftw...@gmail.com
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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Cool I'd watch your talk Craig.

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use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 4/5/22 10:36, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:
>
> >
> > But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop.
> Would it be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?
>
> Add me to the list of interested folks.
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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 4/5/22 10:36, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:



But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop. Would it 
be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?


Add me to the list of interested folks.

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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

Do you need to be in front of the running machine ?

Could you maybe video the machine going through its sequence - then 
record your voice-over later (either muting or turning down the machine 
audio, whichever is better) ?


(Or, to put it another way, I have no real idea :-) but I'm sure Heather 
can help you.


Alex.

On 05/04/2022 18:54, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:

How is that done? From my phone with a cameraman? The talk would only make 
sense with me in front of the running machine itself, making noise.

Craig


On Apr 5, 2022, at 1:41 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
 wrote:

I think this is very interesting. I’d love to watch a flash talk on it.

Sent from my iPhone


On 5 Apr 2022, at 18:38, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Heather.

I probably am one of the oddest LC users. Entirely for either my own use or for 
my company. Only once did I sell a system commercially.

But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop. Would it 
be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?

Regards,

Craig Newman  (dunbarx)




On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Dear Good Folks of the Use-list,

I'm in the final throes of scheduling our upcoming online conference on 25-27th 
April. Its looking great! Multiple fabulous talks have come in, there is loads 
of rich content, we have panels, keynotes and workshops galore! We're just 
missing 3 flashtalks to round out the Flash Talks section on Day 3. I know at 
least 3 of you good people can speak for a mere 7 minutes on your topic of 
choice. Roll up roll up... and send me a talk submission :) Pretty please?

https://livecode.com/global/apply-to-speak/ 


It's going to be a great event.

Warmest Regards to all,

Heather

P.S. Where is the conference schedule to be seen, I hear you ask? Right here:

https://livecode.com/global/schedule/

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager and Conference Organizer Extraordinaire
LiveCode Ltd
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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

How is that done? From my phone with a cameraman? The talk would only make 
sense with me in front of the running machine itself, making noise.

Craig

> On Apr 5, 2022, at 1:41 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think this is very interesting. I’d love to watch a flash talk on it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 5 Apr 2022, at 18:38, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Heather.
>> 
>> I probably am one of the oddest LC users. Entirely for either my own use or 
>> for my company. Only once did I sell a system commercially.
>> 
>> But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop. Would 
>> it be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Craig Newman  (dunbarx)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Good Folks of the Use-list,
>>> 
>>> I'm in the final throes of scheduling our upcoming online conference on 
>>> 25-27th April. Its looking great! Multiple fabulous talks have come in, 
>>> there is loads of rich content, we have panels, keynotes and workshops 
>>> galore! We're just missing 3 flashtalks to round out the Flash Talks 
>>> section on Day 3. I know at least 3 of you good people can speak for a mere 
>>> 7 minutes on your topic of choice. Roll up roll up... and send me a talk 
>>> submission :) Pretty please?
>>> 
>>> https://livecode.com/global/apply-to-speak/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's going to be a great event. 
>>> 
>>> Warmest Regards to all,
>>> 
>>> Heather
>>> 
>>> P.S. Where is the conference schedule to be seen, I hear you ask? Right 
>>> here:
>>> 
>>> https://livecode.com/global/schedule/
>>> 
>>> Heather Laine
>>> Customer Services Manager and Conference Organizer Extraordinaire
>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>> www.livecode.com
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Re: Confirm sort container order...

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Paul.

I see you have come to the dark side. Welcome.

“Sort", and its newly reborn compound variant, works fine as "sort it ascending 
numeric by word 1 of each && word 2 of each && word 3 of each”

Since “lines” are the default, all one needs, and I mentioned this on the 
forum, is to determine the line with the greatest number of words, and build 
the string accordingly. This takes another couple of lines of code, but no more 
than having that very same number laid out in a series of single line sorts, 
still having to be determined by the maximum number of words or items. whatever.

Craig

> On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:08 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 4/5/2022 10:58 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:
>> The discussion may seem academic to some, and perhaps pointless to others. 
>> But I like this sort of nonsense, and actually believe it is rather more 
>> than just that. In fact, it speaks to the internal working of the “sort” 
>> command itself, which seems counterintuitive at least, and a mystery at best.
>> 
>> 
> 
> I certainly agree a nice enhancement to sort would be something like
> 
> sort lines of  by item 3 of each then [by] item 2 of each then [by] item 
> 1 of each
> 
> to replicate exactly (below) but in a single, easier to read, line
> 
> sort lines of  by item 3 of each
> sort lines of  by item 2 of each
> sort lines of  by item 1 of each
> 
> a reduction in code and a more intuitive way of stating a multi-level sort 
> with the addition of a "then", "then by", or some sort of delimiter keyword
> 
> Still that assumes you want to do an ascending text sort for all 3 levels, 
> since ascending text is the default and the syntax is
> 
> sort lines  ascending text by item 3 of each
> 
> If you want different sorts for each key
> 
> sort lines of  ascending text by item 3 of each
> sort lines of  descending numeric by item 2 of each
> sort lines of  ascending international by item 1 of each
> 
> might still be easier that any new syntax that reads something like:
> 
> sort lines of  by item 3 of each ascending text then by item 2 of each 
> descending numeric then by item 1 of each ascending international
> 
> Although the single line is slightly shorter code and still relatively easy 
> to read. Still, I have NO idea how difficult it would be to add the syntax to 
> the LC engine. If not too difficult to implement, it could be a handy 
> enhancement to LC's sort.
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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

Sounds fascinating - I'd love to hear about that.

Alex.

On 05/04/2022 18:36, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:

Heather.

I probably am one of the oddest LC users. Entirely for either my own use or for 
my company. Only once did I sell a system commercially.

But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop. Would it 
be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?

Regards,

Craig Newman  (dunbarx)




On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Dear Good Folks of the Use-list,

I'm in the final throes of scheduling our upcoming online conference on 25-27th 
April. Its looking great! Multiple fabulous talks have come in, there is loads 
of rich content, we have panels, keynotes and workshops galore! We're just 
missing 3 flashtalks to round out the Flash Talks section on Day 3. I know at 
least 3 of you good people can speak for a mere 7 minutes on your topic of 
choice. Roll up roll up... and send me a talk submission :) Pretty please?

https://livecode.com/global/apply-to-speak/ 


It's going to be a great event.

Warmest Regards to all,

Heather

P.S. Where is the conference schedule to be seen, I hear you ask? Right here:

https://livecode.com/global/schedule/

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager and Conference Organizer Extraordinaire
LiveCode Ltd
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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

I think this is very interesting. I’d love to watch a flash talk on it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Apr 2022, at 18:38, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Heather.
> 
> I probably am one of the oddest LC users. Entirely for either my own use or 
> for my company. Only once did I sell a system commercially.
> 
> But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop. Would 
> it be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Craig Newman  (dunbarx)
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Good Folks of the Use-list,
>> 
>> I'm in the final throes of scheduling our upcoming online conference on 
>> 25-27th April. Its looking great! Multiple fabulous talks have come in, 
>> there is loads of rich content, we have panels, keynotes and workshops 
>> galore! We're just missing 3 flashtalks to round out the Flash Talks section 
>> on Day 3. I know at least 3 of you good people can speak for a mere 7 
>> minutes on your topic of choice. Roll up roll up... and send me a talk 
>> submission :) Pretty please?
>> 
>> https://livecode.com/global/apply-to-speak/ 
>> 
>> 
>> It's going to be a great event. 
>> 
>> Warmest Regards to all,
>> 
>> Heather
>> 
>> P.S. Where is the conference schedule to be seen, I hear you ask? Right here:
>> 
>> https://livecode.com/global/schedule/
>> 
>> Heather Laine
>> Customer Services Manager and Conference Organizer Extraordinaire
>> LiveCode Ltd
>> www.livecode.com
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Re: Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Heather.

I probably am one of the oddest LC users. Entirely for either my own use or for 
my company. Only once did I sell a system commercially.

But I do use LC to control three very different machines in our shop. Would it 
be of any interest to anyone to see one of these in operation?

Regards,

Craig Newman  (dunbarx)



> On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Good Folks of the Use-list,
> 
> I'm in the final throes of scheduling our upcoming online conference on 
> 25-27th April. Its looking great! Multiple fabulous talks have come in, there 
> is loads of rich content, we have panels, keynotes and workshops galore! 
> We're just missing 3 flashtalks to round out the Flash Talks section on Day 
> 3. I know at least 3 of you good people can speak for a mere 7 minutes on 
> your topic of choice. Roll up roll up... and send me a talk submission :) 
> Pretty please?
> 
> https://livecode.com/global/apply-to-speak/ 
> 
> 
> It's going to be a great event. 
> 
> Warmest Regards to all,
> 
> Heather
> 
> P.S. Where is the conference schedule to be seen, I hear you ask? Right here:
> 
> https://livecode.com/global/schedule/
> 
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager and Conference Organizer Extraordinaire
> LiveCode Ltd
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Re: launch tFile with tApp

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Andre,

> Am 05.04.2022 um 19:17 schrieb Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> What about using AppleScript to force it to open with a given app?

please read my last posting, you even quoted it here.
But I will consider this, if it will fail again or better if it will fail 
"reliably". :-D

> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 5 Apr 2022, at 10:08, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>> Am 04.04.2022 um 18:10 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi friends,
>>> 
>>> macOS 12.3, LC 9.6.7
>>> 
>>> I have e.g. a MP3 file and want to open it with "Quicktime Player.app":
>>> ...
>>> ## tPrompt contains a localized string, of course
>>> answer file tPrompt with specialfolderpath("apps") with type "|app|"
>>> put it into tApp
>>> ## I select QTPLayer.app
>>> if the result = "cancel" then
>>> exit to top
>>> end if
>>> ## tDatei holds the complete path to the MP3
>>> ## tApp the path to QTPlayer.app
>>> launch tDatei with tApp
>>> put the result
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> It will open the MP3 with QTPlayer as desired BUT
>>> it also opens the file with "iTunes/Music" additionally!?
>>> And I don't want that! :-D
>>> 
>>> The result is EMPTY.
>> 
>> must have been a temporary "glitch" since it did not happen today.
>> 
>> And a HTML file was opened with "TextEdit.app" as expected and did 
>> not start "Safari".
>> 
>> But will keep an eye on this! 8-)

Best

Klaus

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Re: CSV to TSV (was Re: Tools & techniques for one-off consolidation of multiple 'similar' CSV files?)

[Keith Clarke via use-livecode]

Ah, thanks Alex - I’ll dig into that. 
I did search around for CSV to TSV in several places before posting but not CSV 
to Tab and not github!
Best,
Keith

> On 5 Apr 2022, at 18:17, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> that code will fail for any commas which occur within quoted entries - they 
> will be wrongly converted to TABs
> 
> I'd suggest getting cvsToTab (a community effort by Richard Gaskin, me and a 
> whole host of others over the years) as a good starting place, and perhaps 
> finishing place. It will handle most CSV oddities (not all of them - that is 
> provably impossible :-).
> 
> This does an efficient walk through the data, remembering whether it is 
> inside or outside quoted entries, and hence handles commas accordingly.
> 
> https://github.com/macMikey/csvToText/blob/master/csvToTab.livecodescript
> 
> Alex.
> 
> On 05/04/2022 17:02, Keith Clarke via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> Thanks all for the responses and ideas on consolidating multiple CSV files 
>> into - much appreciated.
>> 
>> Ben - Thank you for sharing your working recipe. This lifted my spirits as 
>> it showed I was on the right path (very nearly!) and you moved me on a big 
>> step from where I was stuck.
>> 
>> My script was successfully iterating through folders and files, with 
>> filtering to get a file list of just CSVs with their paths for onward 
>> processing. I’d also identified the need to maintain registers of (growing) 
>> column names, together with  a master row template and a mapping of the 
>> current file’s column headers in row-1 to the master to put align output 
>> columns. I got stuck when I set up nested repeat loops for files, then 
>> lines, then items and was trying to deal with row 1 column headers and data 
>> rows at the same time, which got rather confusing. Separating the column 
>> name processing from parsing row data made life a lot simpler and I’ve now 
>> got LC parsing the ~200 CSV files into a ~60,000 row TSV file that opens in 
>> Excel.
>> 
>> However… I’m getting cells dropped into the wrong columns in the output 
>> file. So, I’m wondering if delimiters are broken in my CSV-to-TSV 
>> pre-processing. Can anyone spot any obvious errors or omissions in the 
>> following...
>> -- convert from CSV to TSV
>> 
>> replace tab with space in tFileData -- clear any tabs in the content before 
>> setting as a delimiter
>> 
>> replace quote & comma & quote with tab in tFileData -- change delimiter for 
>> quoted values
>> 
>> replace comma with tab in tFileData -- change delimiter for unquoted values
>> 
>> replace quote with "" in tFileData -- clear quotes in first & last items
>> 
>> set the itemDelimiter to tab
>> 
>> Best,
>> Keith
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Re: launch tFile with tApp

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

What about using AppleScript to force it to open with a given app?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Apr 2022, at 10:08, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
>> Am 04.04.2022 um 18:10 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> macOS 12.3, LC 9.6.7
>> 
>> I have e.g. a MP3 file and want to open it with "Quicktime Player.app":
>> ...
>> ## tPrompt contains a localized string, of course
>> answer file tPrompt with specialfolderpath("apps") with type "|app|"
>> put it into tApp
>> ## I select QTPLayer.app
>> if the result = "cancel" then
>> exit to top
>> end if
>> ## tDatei holds the complete path to the MP3
>> ## tApp the path to QTPlayer.app
>> launch tDatei with tApp
>> put the result
>> ...
>> 
>> It will open the MP3 with QTPlayer as desired BUT
>> it also opens the file with "iTunes/Music" additionally!?
>> And I don't want that! :-D
>> 
>> The result is EMPTY.
> 
> must have been a temporary "glitch" since it did not happen today.
> 
> And a HTML file was opened with "TextEdit.app" as expected and did 
> not start "Safari".
> 
> But will keep an eye on this! 8-)
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
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Re: CSV to TSV (was Re: Tools & techniques for one-off consolidation of multiple 'similar' CSV files?)

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

Hi Keith,

that code will fail for any commas which occur within quoted entries - 
they will be wrongly converted to TABs


I'd suggest getting cvsToTab (a community effort by Richard Gaskin, me 
and a whole host of others over the years) as a good starting place, and 
perhaps finishing place. It will handle most CSV oddities (not all of 
them - that is provably impossible :-).


This does an efficient walk through the data, remembering whether it is 
inside or outside quoted entries, and hence handles commas accordingly.


https://github.com/macMikey/csvToText/blob/master/csvToTab.livecodescript

Alex.

On 05/04/2022 17:02, Keith Clarke via use-livecode wrote:

Hi folks,
Thanks all for the responses and ideas on consolidating multiple CSV files into 
- much appreciated.

Ben - Thank you for sharing your working recipe. This lifted my spirits as it 
showed I was on the right path (very nearly!) and you moved me on a big step 
from where I was stuck.

My script was successfully iterating through folders and files, with filtering 
to get a file list of just CSVs with their paths for onward processing. I’d 
also identified the need to maintain registers of (growing) column names, 
together with  a master row template and a mapping of the current file’s column 
headers in row-1 to the master to put align output columns. I got stuck when I 
set up nested repeat loops for files, then lines, then items and was trying to 
deal with row 1 column headers and data rows at the same time, which got rather 
confusing. Separating the column name processing from parsing row data made 
life a lot simpler and I’ve now got LC parsing the ~200 CSV files into a 
~60,000 row TSV file that opens in Excel.

However… I’m getting cells dropped into the wrong columns in the output file. 
So, I’m wondering if delimiters are broken in my CSV-to-TSV pre-processing. Can 
anyone spot any obvious errors or omissions in the following...
-- convert from CSV to TSV

replace tab with space in tFileData -- clear any tabs in the content before 
setting as a delimiter

replace quote & comma & quote with tab in tFileData -- change delimiter for 
quoted values

replace comma with tab in tFileData -- change delimiter for unquoted values

replace quote with "" in tFileData -- clear quotes in first & last items

set the itemDelimiter to tab

Best,
Keith

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Flash Talks - 3 slots remaining

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

Dear Good Folks of the Use-list,

I'm in the final throes of scheduling our upcoming online conference on 25-27th 
April. Its looking great! Multiple fabulous talks have come in, there is loads 
of rich content, we have panels, keynotes and workshops galore! We're just 
missing 3 flashtalks to round out the Flash Talks section on Day 3. I know at 
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It's going to be a great event. 

Warmest Regards to all,

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Re: CSV to TSV (was Re: Tools & techniques for one-off consolidation of multiple 'similar' CSV files?)

[Keith Clarke via use-livecode]

This code sits early in the process of preparing CSV file data (from files that 
I didn’t create, so their content is unknown) into TSV text for onward 
processing.
 
So, the logic here is attempting to address the very concerns that you raise, 
albeit in reverse order i.e. 
- remove any tab characters with (future) special meaning from the (CSV) data 
before introducing tabs as delimiters - to avoid false item-breaks downstream.
- swap out the two forms of CSV delimiter (commas between quotes and commas) 
with the alternative tab delimiters
…and finally clean up any orphan quotes left at the beginning of the first item 
in the line or end of the last.  

Best,
Keith 

> On 5 Apr 2022, at 17:09, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm confused by the code, above. If you are using tab as your column
> delimiter, then you wouldn't replace it with a space, since your tsv/csv
> files would have tabs in them when they were exported, originally.
> In any case, when you are going to replace a character with another
> character, you should make sure that the character you are replacing it to
> either a) does not have any special meaning (e.g. a delimiter) or b) if it
> does have a special meaning that it does not appear in the data, already.
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Re: CSV to TSV (was Re: Tools & techniques for one-off consolidation of multiple 'similar' CSV files?)

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

I'm confused by the code, above. If you are using tab as your column
delimiter, then you wouldn't replace it with a space, since your tsv/csv
files would have tabs in them when they were exported, originally.
In any case, when you are going to replace a character with another
character, you should make sure that the character you are replacing it to
either a) does not have any special meaning (e.g. a delimiter) or b) if it
does have a special meaning that it does not appear in the data, already.
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Re: Confirm sort container order...

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 4/5/2022 10:58 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:

The discussion may seem academic to some, and perhaps pointless to others. But 
I like this sort of nonsense, and actually believe it is rather more than just 
that. In fact, it speaks to the internal working of the “sort” command itself, 
which seems counterintuitive at least, and a mystery at best.




I certainly agree a nice enhancement to sort would be something like

sort lines of  by item 3 of each then [by] item 2 of each then [by] 
item 1 of each


to replicate exactly (below) but in a single, easier to read, line

sort lines of  by item 3 of each
sort lines of  by item 2 of each
sort lines of  by item 1 of each

a reduction in code and a more intuitive way of stating a multi-level 
sort with the addition of a "then", "then by", or some sort of delimiter 
keyword


Still that assumes you want to do an ascending text sort for all 3 
levels, since ascending text is the default and the syntax is


sort lines  ascending text by item 3 of each

If you want different sorts for each key

sort lines of  ascending text by item 3 of each
sort lines of  descending numeric by item 2 of each
sort lines of  ascending international by item 1 of each

might still be easier that any new syntax that reads something like:

sort lines of  by item 3 of each ascending text then by item 2 of 
each descending numeric then by item 1 of each ascending international


Although the single line is slightly shorter code and still relatively 
easy to read. Still, I have NO idea how difficult it would be to add the 
syntax to the LC engine. If not too difficult to implement, it could be 
a handy enhancement to LC's sort.



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CSV to TSV (was Re: Tools & techniques for one-off consolidation of multiple 'similar' CSV files?)

[Keith Clarke via use-livecode]

Hi folks, 
Thanks all for the responses and ideas on consolidating multiple CSV files into 
- much appreciated.

Ben - Thank you for sharing your working recipe. This lifted my spirits as it 
showed I was on the right path (very nearly!) and you moved me on a big step 
from where I was stuck. 

My script was successfully iterating through folders and files, with filtering 
to get a file list of just CSVs with their paths for onward processing. I’d 
also identified the need to maintain registers of (growing) column names, 
together with  a master row template and a mapping of the current file’s column 
headers in row-1 to the master to put align output columns. I got stuck when I 
set up nested repeat loops for files, then lines, then items and was trying to 
deal with row 1 column headers and data rows at the same time, which got rather 
confusing. Separating the column name processing from parsing row data made 
life a lot simpler and I’ve now got LC parsing the ~200 CSV files into a 
~60,000 row TSV file that opens in Excel. 

However… I’m getting cells dropped into the wrong columns in the output file. 
So, I’m wondering if delimiters are broken in my CSV-to-TSV pre-processing. Can 
anyone spot any obvious errors or omissions in the following...
-- convert from CSV to TSV

replace tab with space in tFileData -- clear any tabs in the content before 
setting as a delimiter

replace quote & comma & quote with tab in tFileData -- change delimiter for 
quoted values

replace comma with tab in tFileData -- change delimiter for unquoted values

replace quote with "" in tFileData -- clear quotes in first & last items

set the itemDelimiter to tab

Best,
Keith
   
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Re: Confirm sort container order...

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Paul.

Certainly, and in the forum discussion your point, about the mainstream, 
recommended and “correct” way to sort was mentioned several times.

The discussion may seem academic to some, and perhaps pointless to others. But 
I like this sort of nonsense, and actually believe it is rather more than just 
that. In fact, it speaks to the internal working of the “sort” command itself, 
which seems counterintuitive at least, and a mystery at best.

I like LC mysteries. And there just might be something worthwhile to learn...

Craig

> On Apr 5, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> All those forum efforts (except Richard's) ignore that the dictionary entry 
> states that the "sort" command is a stable sort precisely so that you can do 
> multiple sorts to sort by multiple chunks
> 
> Whether you do
> 
>   sort lines of tText by word 3 of each
>   sort lines of tText by word 2 of each
>   sort lines of tText by word 1 of each
> 
> or
> 
> repeat from i = 3 down to 1
>   sort lines of tText by word i of each
> end repeat
> 
> and whether you want to sort by "word i of each" or "item i of each" or 
> "token i of each" or whatever, the multiple sort commands is the LC 
> recommended way to perform  multi-level sort.
> 
> 
> On 3/30/2022 4:16 PM, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:
>> I hate that one cannot edit previous posts here like we can on the forum.
>> 
>> I meant “tabs”. not “tase”.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Craig Newman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am assuming here that there are spaces separating the chars in your list. 
>>> The use of “words” will also delimit if those are tase instead of spaces. 
>>> But the method is worth exploring…
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
 On Mar 30, 2022, at 3:39 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 A B C
 A A B
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Re: Confirm sort container order...

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

All those forum efforts (except Richard's) ignore that the dictionary 
entry states that the "sort" command is a stable sort precisely so that 
you can do multiple sorts to sort by multiple chunks


Whether you do

  sort lines of tText by word 3 of each
  sort lines of tText by word 2 of each
  sort lines of tText by word 1 of each

or

repeat from i = 3 down to 1
  sort lines of tText by word i of each
end repeat

and whether you want to sort by "word i of each" or "item i of each" or 
"token i of each" or whatever, the multiple sort commands is the LC 
recommended way to perform  multi-level sort.



On 3/30/2022 4:16 PM, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:

I hate that one cannot edit previous posts here like we can on the forum.

I meant “tabs”. not “tase”.

Craig


On Mar 30, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Craig Newman  wrote:

I am assuming here that there are spaces separating the chars in your list. The 
use of “words” will also delimit if those are tase instead of spaces. But the 
method is worth exploring…

Craig


On Mar 30, 2022, at 3:39 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

A B C
A A B
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Re: Confirm sort container order...

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Time to check the forum. Bernd has made a very significant contribution.

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9=36893

> On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:43 AM, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 2:16 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> sort lines of tText by word 1 of each & word 2 of each & word 3 of each
> 
> Hi, Paul.
> 
> The only feature missing is padding the first two words:
> 
>   sort tText by pad( word 1 of each ) & pad( word 2 of each ) & word 3 of each
> 
> 
> function pad tString
>   put "" into item 1000 of tString
>   replace comma with space in tString
>   return char 1 to 1000 of tString
> 
> 
> Does that work for you?
> 
> — Dick
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Re: launch tFile with tApp

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 04.04.2022 um 18:10 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> macOS 12.3, LC 9.6.7
> 
> I have e.g. a MP3 file and want to open it with "Quicktime Player.app":
> ...
> ## tPrompt contains a localized string, of course
> answer file tPrompt with specialfolderpath("apps") with type "|app|"
> put it into tApp
> ## I select QTPLayer.app
> if the result = "cancel" then
> exit to top
> end if
> ## tDatei holds the complete path to the MP3
> ## tApp the path to QTPlayer.app
> launch tDatei with tApp
> put the result
> ...
> 
> It will open the MP3 with QTPlayer as desired BUT
> it also opens the file with "iTunes/Music" additionally!?
> And I don't want that! :-D
> 
> The result is EMPTY.

must have been a temporary "glitch" since it did not happen today.

And a HTML file was opened with "TextEdit.app" as expected and did 
not start "Safari".

But will keep an eye on this! 8-)


Best

Klaus

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Re: launch file with app

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 04.04.2022 um 18:10 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> macOS 12.3, LC 9.6.7
> 
> I have e.g. a MP3 file and want to open it with "Quicktime Player.app":
> ...
> ## tPrompt contains a localized string, of course
> answer file tPrompt with specialfolderpath("apps") with type "|app|"
> put it into tApp
> ## I select QTPLayer.app
> if the result = "cancel" then
> exit to top
> end if
> ## tDatei holds the complete path to the MP3
> ## tApp the path to QTPlayer.app
> launch tDatei with tApp
> put the result
> ...
> 
> It will open the MP3 with QTPlayer as desired BUT
> it also opens the file with "iTunes/Music" additionally!?
> And I don't want that! :-D
> 
> The result is EMPTY.

must have been a temporary "glitch" since it did not happen today.

And a HTML file was opened with "TextEdit.app" as expected and did 
not start "Safari".

But will keep an eye on this! 8-)


Best

Klaus

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