Re: Scripting conference transcript
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Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or...
Does anyone know of a way to either: (a) Prevent someone from dragging a window that is a toplevel window (without a snapback solution of resetting the window after the drag is complete); or (b) Move one stack smoothly at the same time as another stack is being dragged by its titlebar? This is Mac OS X only... Thanks for any suggestions, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or...
Hi Ken you need to implement a movewindow frontscript in a plugin stack that filters the windows to prevent or pass the message. local blockedlist on movewindow if blockedlist is empty then updateblockedlist if the defaultstack is not in blockedlist then pass movewindow end movewindow Cool script, I like it! ;) Cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ray Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 09:43 To: Use Revolution List Subject: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or... Does anyone know of a way to either: (a) Prevent someone from dragging a window that is a toplevel window (without a snapback solution of resetting the window after the drag is complete); or (b) Move one stack smoothly at the same time as another stack is being dragged by its titlebar? This is Mac OS X only... Thanks for any suggestions, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: saving settings
Paul, Without seeing your handler, it's hard to identify what you are doing exactly, but have you declared the globals? on saveSettings tFolderName global gData1,gData2,gData3,gData4,gData5 get quotegData1quotecomma\ quotegData2quotecomma\ quotegData3quotecomma\ quotegData4quotecomma\ quotegData2quote put it into url (file: tFolderName /settings.txt) end saveSettings HTH /H - I'm trying to get my program to save information into a text file. I'm using this format, is something wrong? put gDate1 gDate2 gDate3 gDate4 gDate5 cr \ into url (file: tFolderName slash settings.txt) It's saving gData1 instead on the information help in gData1 These are global settings but they do not change. I want them do come out like so: Settings1,Settings2,Settings3,Settings4,Settings5 They must be in this format to be compatible with VB programs not yet converted to Rev. Please help Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: throw vs the result
--- Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what people prefer as far as fatal errors in executing a custom command, such as in a library. Should that be in a non-empty value returned by result()? Or should that cause some error message to the thrown? Or does it depend on the error? Dar I personally prefer the try-throw-catch trinity, as it makes for cleaner code than indented if-then-else structures. In fact, I wish all errors were thrown rather than tucked away in the result. Maybe there's a good bugzilla request with backward compatibility in this : - if a global property is set, and a result-setting error is encountered, the engine throws the error - if nothing catches it, it sets the result and moves along with the next line in the script. Just my two eurocnts, Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Draw over existing objects
--- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'm creating a custom report layout editor to be included with a commercial software product, and would like to be able to scroll larger report layouts rather than splitting them into separate windows. I am now realizing various issues with my current implementation (which uses separate windows for each section -- this isn't the problem I'm trying to solve, but I'd like to fix it anyway), and in considering starting over, I'd like to get this done right this time, including a scrolling, resizing window representing the report layout. I want it to act like a drawing program, to make life a little easier for the end users. And looking at the reports product which has been brought up on this list previously: 1. I want to distribute the editor with the product, which would seemingly require a royalty fee (or at least an expensive custom version purchase), which I'm trying to avoid. 2. The product will gather information from a database, and I want the layouts stored on the database server itself, rather than files on a disk. 3. The editor brought up on the list allows use of Rev functions, etc. in fields, and I don't want to risk users picking up on the functions, etc. which I have included in the (rather large, complex) product and misusing them. 4. I'd like the editor to be a separate program, so that I can have it shared between several products in a series. Information about the various types of reports which layouts can be generated for should also be gathered from information which an installer will populate the database with. This includes a list of available sections, fields, etc. for any given report (and there will be a different set of sections possible with different types of reports). I could go on, but I think you get the idea by now. The editor is somewhat specialized, but I want it to look a bit more professional than a too-highly specialized tool. Of course, dragging the palette window around to make a toolbar isn't particularly professional-looking, either... Please Rev, let us specify a different tool for a single group placed on a card! Please... Or at least let us scroll entire windows, rather than just groups: I could stand to use a floating palette if that helps... - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Frank, As the programmer of Quartam Reports I know how you feel about certain limitations Revolution imposes when it comes to building drawing apps. Believe me, even my neighbours know about them by now. *grin* However, I'm a little sad that you didn't contact me before dismissing the option of a custom version for your product. A quick check of your above list of requirements shows me that it would not have been difficult to accomodate your needs. Without knowing the amount of hours you have already spent and are going to spend on making your own tool, nor your hourly rate, a custom version might very well have beaten the cost and let you concentrate on adding core features to your application. Of course everyone plans and acts out his own projects, but sometimes it's more economical. And if you don't ask, you won't know. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Rev XML libs and XSLT files...
--- Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, trying not to reinvent the wheel here, can RevXML library transform a given XML using a XSLT file or I'll have to write code for that (or maybe shell to some tool who can..) cheers andre Hi Andre, At some point I was told that the library that Revolution uses for XML, also provides for XSL transformations -- however, it would take quite some time to implement and fine-tune these library calls. I'm not sure there is a bugzilla enty, if not I'll certainly vote for it, as I'm going to need more XML-features in the future. Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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windowShape in Tiger (again)
Hi Gordy! Has anyone installed Tiger and looked at a revStack or standalone that uses a windowShape other than rectangular? one of my main Rev projects has three stacks with a shape that is basically rectangular with a small, round protrusion on the bottom (and slightly rounded corners). Both in rev and in the standalone, there is a strange outline parallel to the bottom of the window about 50 pixels lower. It's a little hard to describe, so if anyone out there is inclined to take a quick a look at this strangeness, let me know and I will send you screen shots. I just tried the windowLab stack. This is the one that you can run from RevNet where you can draw an arbitrary shape and then create a window from that shape. Gave this a try and it worked for a round test stack in Tiger both as a revStack and as a standalone. I am not sure what format the mask that is created in windowLab is, so I took my stack, whose shape is a png and created the same shape as a black gif and gave it a try, but with the same result on my machine running Tiger - that wierd additional shape. I am sending you two screenshots offline so you can see what I am talking about. I also tried to drop my black gif onto the active area of windowLab, but it doesn't generate a stack when I do that. It seemed to work just fine and I wasn't able to duplicate the effect that you mentioned. Yes, this definitely works in Tiger, but I can't recreate my shape in windowLab ;-( If you have a specific stack you would like for me to try I would be happy to do that. I am just wondering what Tiger does differently, because my windowShape has always been perfect in Panther, MacOS and Windows XP! Cheers, Lars ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Anyone using Tiger Yet?
Hi Folk, Anyone using Tiger with Rev yet? Any problems? Burt Woodruff RippleSoft ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Noob alert: front/back scripts
Hello all, Is there a clear example stack somewhere -or- can someone out there that can clairify exactly what front back scripts are? I see these terms used quite often on the list and want to make sure I (and other noobs) have a complete understanding... Thx, -Doc- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Noob alert: front/back scripts
docmann wrote: Hello all, Is there a clear example stack somewhere -or- can someone out there that can clairify exactly what front back scripts are? I see these terms used quite often on the list and want to make sure I (and other noobs) have a complete understanding... Extending the Runtime Revolution Message Path An introduction to using Libraries, FrontScripts, and BackScripts in Runtime Revolution's Transcript Programming Language http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/revolution_message_path.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev OOP
Hi Dan, So I would agree that the programmer who rejected Revolution out of hand without digging more deeply into the advantages it offers and shares with OO environments was hasty and ill-advised (and probably, as you say, more interested in eliminating alternatives than in finding the correct one). But to dismiss OO out of hand is, IMNSHO, equally short-sighted. As you so rightly say, the two big concerns are programmer productivity and code maintainability. And in those respects, Transcript is awfully hard to beat. When categorizing OOP as the buzz concept de jour, it is not my intention to dismiss it out of hand, nor to downplay the value of its underlying concepts. To the degree that xTalk incorporates OOP capabilities, that's a good thing, me thinks. But when a programmer says, Your programming platform isn't worth evaluating because it does not support [the latest concept] as taught at universities., that gives me a strong indication the person doesn't know what he is talking about or isn't interested in looking closer. In my 30+ years of programming, I have seen many trends and concepts arise and later be replaced others. Many seem to thrive in the theoretical world but are still not implemented in the real world to any major extent when the theorists move on to something new. And often concepts come full circle: Single-user systems were made multi-user. Single computer, multi-user systems were replaced by networked single-user systems. Networked single-user systems were replaced by client/server systems, returning control of dbs files to a single computer and application. Distributed processing was a buzz concept at one time. Maybe one or two of the clients I have worked with over the years might have had a use for it; nobody else I've worked with could care less. In my senior year of college I took Public Administration Case Studies, in which the descripion of a problem or situation was read to the class and each person described how she would approach it. Without knowing anything about a person, I could classify him as student, military, or practicing administrator based on his response: * Student: Do what the textbook says. * Military: What's the problem? Order somebody to do something. * Administrator: [Anything other that two responses above.] I don't believe these viewpoints differ much based on subject matter, and I would be VERY leary of anyone who responds to a real-world situation with a classroom response. Rob Cozens CCW Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: SQL Expert Needed
Hello Rever's, OT: A friend of mine is looking for an MS SQL 'expert' that is willing to travel to Wooster, Ohio for a week to ten days to add/modify to a query system that is already in place. The front end is an open tool Dashboard. He is willing to pick up travel/hotel/rental car costs for the time required. Also I think what he is offering is on a per hour rate (negotiable) and should be a decent rate. He needs someone fairly soon so if anyone is interested and has the time please get back to me asap and I will pass on your contact info to him. His quote: Environment SQL 2K MS SQL I need a SQL developer who can help me to modify some queries. These queries are pulling information from an existing database that holds a call tracking system. 90% of the queries are already created for us. My goal is to create defined views that allow the organization to view only their tickets in the database. Currently there are no views created, so everyone can see each others tickets. I want to create 16 different views, breaking down the existing tickets so everyone sees only their own. The project is taking place in Wooster, Ohio. Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev OOP
At 08:11 AM 5/1/2005, I wrote:
I would be VERY leary of anyone who responds to a real-world situation
with a classroom response.
Likewise a military response.
:{`)
Rob
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Re: Noob alert: front/back scripts
Thank you Richard, much appreciated! (I knew I had run across it somewhere, but couldn't remember where.) -Doc- On 5/1/05, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: docmann wrote: Hello all, Is there a clear example stack somewhere -or- can someone out there that can clairify exactly what front back scripts are? I see these terms used quite often on the list and want to make sure I (and other noobs) have a complete understanding... Extending the Runtime Revolution Message Path An introduction to using Libraries, FrontScripts, and BackScripts in Runtime Revolution's Transcript Programming Language http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/revolution_message_path.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone using Tiger Yet?
Morning Bur, On May 1, 2005, at 08:24, Burrton Wodruff wrote: Hi Folk, Anyone using Tiger with Rev yet? Any problems? I haven't had any problems so far; however, Lars Brehmer just sent me screen shots of a very interesting issue he has seen with one of his applications running under Tiger. It has to do with using the windowShape property to assign an image whose mask is used to create non-rectangular windows. Under Tiger he is getting a strange shadow effect under the window. --gordy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: throw vs the result
On May 1, 2005, at 3:30 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote: I personally prefer the try-throw-catch trinity, as it makes for cleaner code than indented if-then-else structures. If this a switched by the user, then maybe something like this would work for a script library: The error mode of a stack library can be set by a command. The default is RESULT out of respect for those new to scripting. Major commands would check this and either return an error message in the result or throw it depending on the setting. Well, if there is an error. Functions would check this and either throw or generate/propagate error messages. In those functions where the latter is not appropriate, they either do something reasonable or set an error state that can be checked later. In some cases, for the purpose of speed, bad inputs might get throws from built-in operations, but they might look like library bugs to the user if not documented right. (Hidden from the user would be a way for the developer to set a switch certain errors such as bugs get thrown so they show up with the IDE error dialog.) Now, should the thrown errors be compatible with the IDE debug window or should they be the error messages themselves? Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ A Sponsor of RevCon West ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
QuickTime 6.5.2 reinstaller
All- Apple has posted the QuickTime 6.5.2 reinstaller, which will uninstall QT7 from OSX 10.3.9 systems and reinstall the previous version. http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime652reinstallerformac.html -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Split screen output for Presentations
Apple's new Keynote has an interesting new feature: It can make 2 separate windows! Wow! (grin) Ok, yes, REv can do that and a lot more though Rev's Graphic options are still a bit stone age compared to what iWorks offers now. [aside: humbly suggest that for Rev to move forward, that the back end of the engine for applications development is already ramped up enough (for the time being), and and a new focus on graphics Dev both in the IDE and for delivery is needed to keep Rev on the Cutting Edge of the Future, especially now that Adobe has bought Macro Media. I know, I know, we don't want the core of the executable to get so bloated that delivery of a little widget application weighs in at 5-6 megabytes, so, ala Richard's earlier musings, some modularity option may be needed.]] OK that said, I do have a specific question: Keynote can output one window to the channel that goes out to the projector -- video port. i.e. it shows on the screen. and the second window is locked onto the personal PC's LCD screen, where the latter window has notes for the presentor which are not seen by the audience who are watching output to the project -- large display screen in the front of the hall. Thomas (McGr...) you do this stuff all the time right? Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone using Tiger Yet?
Hi Burton, Rev 2.5.1 on Mac OS 10.4 working nicely here, no problems, glitches. Tiger feels slightly faster than Panther, but this might be because I used 'Archive and install' to get new clean system. Rob On May 1, 2005, at 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 08:24:50 -0500 From: Burrton Wodruff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone using Tiger Yet? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Folk, Anyone using Tiger with Rev yet? Any problems? Burt Woodruff RippleSoft -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
DVD Decoder
Is anyone aware of any add-ins for QuickTime (Windows) that will allow one to use QuickTime to show DVDs? I love the DVD player on Mac OS X and I can't stand the ones on Windows and I'd like to make a free custom DVD player using QuickTime and Revolution. Thanks! Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or...
On 5/1/05 3:16 AM, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ken you need to implement a movewindow frontscript in a plugin stack that filters the windows to prevent or pass the message. local blockedlist on movewindow if blockedlist is empty then updateblockedlist if the defaultstack is not in blockedlist then pass movewindow end movewindow Cool script, I like it! ;) Thanks, Xavier, but the problem is that it doesn't work... remember this is for OS X, where the moveWindow message is only sent when you are done moving, not *while* you're moving (like it is in Windows). Any other ideas? Anyone? :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or...
If there's no OSX solution, then you need to simulate a windowdrag... Hide the window's title bar and drag the window using mousedown like i posted not long ago... I'll try to release the MagicMG soon - it's script ready but there little gui for it still - I'll try... It has the fully featured dragWindow feature which i use across all N2O stacks now. Cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ray Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 20:30 To: Use Revolution List Subject: Re: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or... On 5/1/05 3:16 AM, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ken you need to implement a movewindow frontscript in a plugin stack that filters the windows to prevent or pass the message. local blockedlist on movewindow if blockedlist is empty then updateblockedlist if the defaultstack is not in blockedlist then pass movewindow end movewindow Cool script, I like it! ;) Thanks, Xavier, but the problem is that it doesn't work... remember this is for OS X, where the moveWindow message is only sent when you are done moving, not *while* you're moving (like it is in Windows). Any other ideas? Anyone? :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone using Tiger Yet?
Just installed for testing on an old IBook G3 800. Will let you know how it works with Rev 2.5.1 and PostgreSQL as soon as possible. Le 1 mai 05, à 15:24, Burrton Wodruff a écrit : Hi Folk, Anyone using Tiger with Rev yet? Any problems? Burt Woodruff RippleSoft ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: SQL Expert Needed
The employer might get a better deal and more offers if the programmer doesn't have to travel to Worchester, Wooster, wherever. At 11:19 AM -0400 5/1/05, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello Rever's, OT: A friend of mine is looking for an MS SQL 'expert' that is willing to travel to Wooster, Ohio for a week to ten days to add/modify to a query system that is .. Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev OOP
Rob, Le 1 mai 05, à 17:11, Rob Cozens a écrit : But when a programmer says, Your programming platform isn't worth evaluating because it does not support [the latest concept] as taught at universities., that gives me a strong indication the person doesn't know what he is talking about or isn't interested in looking closer. ... Full agreed and in about what we can learn in the universities and engeenier schools, it's always good to remember that the most usefull is never in the courses nor books. Why ?, just because the professors are mainly waiting between five to teen years before introducing new production state concepts and solutions in their presentations, just because they don't like to defend unconfirmed ways, even the best ones as long a the market and the time did'nt make them academical safe... -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QuickTime 6.5.2 reinstaller
QT7 Pro woks there on both Panther and Tiger without any troubles, Rev's Player features included. Le 1 mai 05, à 19:13, Mark Wieder a écrit : All- Apple has posted the QuickTime 6.5.2 reinstaller, which will uninstall QT7 from OSX 10.3.9 systems and reinstall the previous version. http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ quicktime652reinstallerformac.html -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
window in a window
Hi All. I have an app that has a toolbar that does things to a window (an independent rev file). However, I want to embed this independent window into one stack and then save it back out. EG. Imagine a word processor like MS word without an open document. You have a blank window and a toolbar, call it bobsBlankWindow. Now I want to have a rev file to open within bobsBlankWindow and then be saved back as the rev file when edited. Is it possible to embed a stack within the area of another stack. Apart from that, there is the problem of the window focus. if the edit stack is clicked upon it would hide the other window behind it. would using the systemWindow command work? Sorry to not try it in advance but I'd need to change a lot before doing this and I want advice before messing around with it. cheers bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 29/04/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Split screen output for Presentations
Sivakatirswami, Yes Keynote can split the output but only during full screen mode. There is a preference under Preferences/ Presenter Display that has a check box for Use alternate display to view presenter information with some neat options for a timer/clock etc.. You can also preview what the second window looks like if you don't have a projector hooked up, by a button that says 'Edit Presenter Layout... otherwise you don't get to see the second window until full screen mode. Also, I don't remember for sure but I think you have to turn Video Mirroring off? - not 100% sure though. The thing that distinguishes Keynote from PowerPoint is that it has much richer graphics and video support. It also has better interaction using text and graphics for navigating. ( I was able to prototype a game that played in Keynote that could not be done in PP.) The other thing Keynote has is XML which will/should open some doors for other apps that might have even better tools to do something with the Keynote presentations. I also agree that graphics support and graphic specific tools should be high on the list for the next improvements to REV. I would like to fill some of the 'holes' left behind during the transition from MM to Adobe for Director. I am sure once Adobe merges them DIrector might get better but for now there will be a nervous gap with people looking else where 'just in case' Director is dropped. Even if it isn't dropped I can at least exploit some of these issues. Especially since a lot of people use Director/Flash for software development that it is not the best tool for and can actually make some projects obsolete. It would not take much of an argument to persuade these people to switch or at least try an xTalk for. Tom On May 1, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Apple's new Keynote has an interesting new feature: It can make 2 separate windows! Wow! (grin) Ok, yes, REv can do that and a lot more though Rev's Graphic options are still a bit stone age compared to what iWorks offers now. [aside: humbly suggest that for Rev to move forward, that the back end of the engine for applications development is already ramped up enough (for the time being), and and a new focus on graphics Dev both in the IDE and for delivery is needed to keep Rev on the Cutting Edge of the Future, especially now that Adobe has bought Macro Media. I know, I know, we don't want the core of the executable to get so bloated that delivery of a little widget application weighs in at 5-6 megabytes, so, ala Richard's earlier musings, some modularity option may be needed.]] OK that said, I do have a specific question: Keynote can output one window to the channel that goes out to the projector -- video port. i.e. it shows on the screen. and the second window is locked onto the personal PC's LCD screen, where the latter window has notes for the presentor which are not seen by the audience who are watching output to the project -- large display screen in the front of the hall. Thomas (McGr...) you do this stuff all the time right? Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or...
--- Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/1/05 3:16 AM, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ken you need to implement a movewindow frontscript in a plugin stack that filters the windows to prevent or pass the message. local blockedlist on movewindow if blockedlist is empty then updateblockedlist if the defaultstack is not in blockedlist then pass movewindow end movewindow Cool script, I like it! ;) Thanks, Xavier, but the problem is that it doesn't work... remember this is for OS X, where the moveWindow message is only sent when you are done moving, not *while* you're moving (like it is in Windows). Any other ideas? Anyone? :-) Ken Ray Since it's MacOSX only, you could try a drawer ? Unless it can't be hooked up to the other window, that is. Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: throw vs the result
On May 1, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Ah yes, but then I have to check the result myself to throw an error, and that's what I wanted to avoid ;-) My earlier suggestion is backwards-compatible but allows people who like try-throw-catch, to structure their code in a more readable way. But your suggestion requires an enhancement (or maybe some fancy errorDialog technique). I was wondering about what developers can use now. Would a property or command for each library to switch between thrown/result help? Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ A Sponsor of RevCon West ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: throw vs the result
--- Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 1, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Ah yes, but then I have to check the result myself to throw an error, and that's what I wanted to avoid ;-) My earlier suggestion is backwards-compatible but allows people who like try-throw-catch, to structure their code in a more readable way. But your suggestion requires an enhancement (or maybe some fancy errorDialog technique). I was wondering about what developers can use now. Would a property or command for each library to switch between thrown/result help? Dar In that case, this might be an issue for the revInterop workgroup -- they're working on standardizing library names and calls, and storing information about the supported commands, functions, properties, etc. If you're not a member yet, I'm sure they'd like you to join the dicsussion at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revinterop/ Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or...
On 5/1/05 4:50 PM, Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Xavier, but the problem is that it doesn't work... remember this is for OS X, where the moveWindow message is only sent when you are done moving, not *while* you're moving (like it is in Windows). Any other ideas? Anyone? :-) Ken Ray Since it's MacOSX only, you could try a drawer ? Unless it can't be hooked up to the other window, that is. Well... it can; what I'm trying to simulate is the customize toolbar sheet that drops down from a toolbar. Since sheets always drop from the tilebar of a stack, I couldn't just use a sheet (since I need it to drop from the toolbar, and not from the titlebar). However I've been able to simulate it by creating a 1 pixel high palette that is positioned below my toolbar and drops the sheet. But unfortunately, if you drag the main stack (the one with the toolbar), the sheet doesn't follow like it's supposed to (since it's not attached to the main stack, but to the palette). So unfortunately I can't use a drawer in this case... Good idea, though. If I can't get the two to drag together, I'd be willing to make the main stack undraggable while the customize toolbar sheet is displayed. But how can you prevent a stack from being moved? And unfortunately I don't have control over the stack that the toolbar's attached to (so I can't use a custom window/custom drag region). Is there anything left that I can do? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Split screen output for Presentations
Maybe RR should consider a generous and widely publicized sidegrade deal for current owners of Director who are nervous. I've seen such campaigns pull in huge sales. On May 1, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Especially since a lot of people use Director/Flash for software development that it is not the best tool for and can actually make some projects obsolete. It would not take much of an argument to persuade these people to switch or at least try an xTalk for. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revGoURL Not Working in Tiger?
It may be peculiar to my setup, but can someone try revGoURL in Tiger and report back? I can't get it to work. Nothing happens at all. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revGoURL Not Working in Tiger?
Hi Dan, No problems for me. I am running Rev 2.5.1 on Mac OS X 10.4 (upgrade install from 10.3.9) Todd On May 1, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: It may be peculiar to my setup, but can someone try revGoURL in Tiger and report back? I can't get it to work. Nothing happens at all. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Higgins ASG Systems Engineer MICRO Technology Groupe, Inc voice: 215-788-6811 fax: 215-788-1766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.mtgroupe.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Selecting a Variable name by Script
I have been trying to get the example in the Rev documentation to work in my script: global gVariable1 on test put 1 into x put 50 into (gVariablex) end test it won't Apply. It gives me a bad destination error. it works fine with things like field names, but not variables. I have 10 buttons that I want to use to save or recall info from ten sets of arrays. I just wanted to write one script to do the work instead of duplicating the script ten times in each button with just the number after the variable name different (the ten button work a bit like radio buttons). However, I can't figure out how to do this in Rev if the above method will not work. Any Ideas? Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or...
On May 1, 2005, at 12:42 AM, Ken Ray wrote: (a) Prevent someone from dragging a window that is a toplevel window (without a snapback solution of resetting the window after the drag is complete); or Here is a crazy idea. Could you draw a stack over the drag bar when needed? Something like this example could get you started. Not sure if you can make the stack invisible yet be there. This is quick and dirty. Sure it could be cleaned up a lot. local lStackY, lStackX on mouseMove put the screenMouseLoc into temp put item 1 of temp into lMouseX put item 2 of temp into lMouseY put the top of this stack into lStackX put the left of this stack into lStackY if lMouseY (lStackX+10) then if lFlag is true then exit mouseMove put true into lFlag createBlockerStack else if exists (stack blocker) then delete stack blocker put empty into lFlag end if end mouseMove on mouseLeave createBlockerStack end mouseLeave on createBlockerStack set the vis of the templateStack to false set width of the templateStack to the width of this stack set the height of the templateStack to 20 create stack blocker reset the templateStack set the decorations of stack blocker to empty set the style of stack blocker to palette set the shadow of stack blocker to false set the topleft of stack blocker to lStackX,(lStackY-21) set the vis of stack blocker to true end createBlockerStack Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or...
From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2 May 2005 8:47:13 AM To: Use Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Prevent someone from dragging a toplevel window, or... Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Well... it can; what I'm trying to simulate is the customize toolbar sheet that drops down from a toolbar. Since sheets always drop from the tilebar of a stack, I couldn't just use a sheet (since I need it to drop from the toolbar, and not from the titlebar). However I've been able to simulate it by creating a 1 pixel high palette that is positioned below my toolbar and drops the sheet. But unfortunately, if you drag the main stack (the one with the toolbar), the sheet doesn't follow like it's supposed to (since it's not attached to the main stack, but to the palette). So unfortunately I can't use a drawer in this case... Good idea, though. If I can't get the two to drag together, I'd be willing to make the main stack undraggable while the customize toolbar sheet is displayed. But how can you prevent a stack from being moved? And unfortunately I don't have control over the stack that the toolbar's attached to (so I can't use a custom window/custom drag region). Is there anything left that I can do? Descending into the realm of horrible hacks here but is is possible to overlay a window that has its transparency set way down (using Trevor's external) and which lies directly over the stacks titlebar and then using a custom 'drag' script in the transparent window to move the underlying and any other windows. Terry... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dr Terry Judd Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design) Biomedical Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Parkville VIC 3052 AUSTRALIA ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Selecting a Variable name by Script
On May 1, 2005, at 4:56 PM, Dennis Brown wrote: global gVariable1 on test put 1 into x put 50 into (gVariablex) end test How about: put 1 into x put 50 into gVariable[x] Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: window in a window
On May 1, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Bob Hartley wrote: Apart from that, there is the problem of the window focus. if the edit stack is clicked upon it would hide the other window behind it. would using the systemWindow command work? You could set the style of the document stack to: palette Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Selecting a Variable name by Script
Dennis Brown wrote: I have been trying to get the example in the Rev documentation to work in my script: global gVariable1 on test put 1 into x put 50 into (gVariablex) end test it won't Apply. It gives me a bad destination error. it works fine with things like field names, but not variables. I have 10 buttons that I want to use to save or recall info from ten sets of arrays. I just wanted to write one script to do the work instead of duplicating the script ten times in each button with just the number after the variable name different (the ten button work a bit like radio buttons). However, I can't figure out how to do this in Rev if the above method will not work. Any Ideas? global gVariable1 on mouseUp put 1 into x put 2 into gVariable1-- just to be sure it does get changed :-) do put 50 into gVariablex put we got gVariable1 into msg end mouseUp -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 27/04/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Selecting a Variable name by Script
Alex, Thanks, I can make that work. Dennis On May 1, 2005, at 8:42 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Dennis Brown wrote: I have been trying to get the example in the Rev documentation to work in my script: global gVariable1 on test put 1 into x put 50 into (gVariablex) end test it won't Apply. It gives me a bad destination error. it works fine with things like field names, but not variables. I have 10 buttons that I want to use to save or recall info from ten sets of arrays. I just wanted to write one script to do the work instead of duplicating the script ten times in each button with just the number after the variable name different (the ten button work a bit like radio buttons). However, I can't figure out how to do this in Rev if the above method will not work. Any Ideas? global gVariable1 on mouseUp put 1 into x put 2 into gVariable1-- just to be sure it does get changed :-) do put 50 into gVariablex put we got gVariable1 into msg end mouseUp -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 27/04/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QuickTime 6.5.2 reinstaller
Pierre- Sunday, May 1, 2005, 12:52:17 PM, you wrote: PS QT7 Pro woks there on both Panther and Tiger without any troubles, PS Rev's Player features included. Apparently there are reports of crashes and incompatibilities with firewire devices. 10.3.9 only. YMMV. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revGoURL Not Working in Tiger?
OK, then it must be something here. Thanks for the reality check. I had a TERRIBLE time with the upgrade (mostly my fault) so I probably clobbered some vital setting. On May 1, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Todd Higgins wrote: Hi Dan, No problems for me. I am running Rev 2.5.1 on Mac OS X 10.4 (upgrade install from 10.3.9) Todd On May 1, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: It may be peculiar to my setup, but can someone try revGoURL in Tiger and report back? I can't get it to work. Nothing happens at all. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Higgins ASG Systems Engineer MICRO Technology Groupe, Inc voice: 215-788-6811 fax: 215-788-1766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.mtgroupe.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revGoURL Not Working in Tiger?
Dan Shafer wrote: OK, then it must be something here. Thanks for the reality check. I had a TERRIBLE time with the upgrade (mostly my fault) so I probably clobbered some vital setting. Your initial reaction is completely understandable given Apple's history with such things. Remember GURLGURL? That was the Apple event ID and class for sending the default browser to any page, local or remote, for many years. That is, until OS X. Without even posting a tech note Apple yanked GURLGURL support for local web pages, requiring all developers who had been relying on it to rewrite their code to use the AppleScript open location... instead. That was a hard lesson to learn, but a valueable one: trust nothing in any OS vendor's API, as ultimately everything is subject to change without notice. By jumping in with a fix as soon as the issue was known, the Rev team pulled off something the Apple team couldn't be bothered with: revGoURL continues to support your call to it regardless of which OS version you're calling it from. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revGoURL Not Working in Tiger?
revGoURL is now working. NO idea why it broke, but now it's fine. Go figure. On May 1, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dan Shafer wrote: OK, then it must be something here. Thanks for the reality check. I had a TERRIBLE time with the upgrade (mostly my fault) so I probably clobbered some vital setting. Your initial reaction is completely understandable given Apple's history with such things. Remember GURLGURL? That was the Apple event ID and class for sending the default browser to any page, local or remote, for many years. That is, until OS X. Without even posting a tech note Apple yanked GURLGURL support for local web pages, requiring all developers who had been relying on it to rewrite their code to use the AppleScript open location... instead. That was a hard lesson to learn, but a valueable one: trust nothing in any OS vendor's API, as ultimately everything is subject to change without notice. By jumping in with a fix as soon as the issue was known, the Rev team pulled off something the Apple team couldn't be bothered with: revGoURL continues to support your call to it regardless of which OS version you're calling it from. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Split screen output for Presentations
Dan, I agree especially since we are talking about Director and not so much about Flash. A sidegrade targeted to the making a standalone application side versus the making an animation side which can and will be taken up by Flash. The high selling point is that the move over does away with the need for a projector side and yet, Dreamcard might be the key too. You know, come over to Rev in Dreamcard and you can provide a player/projector (a concept they are already familiar with) and then when you need to you can step up to REV for self contained standalones. Good thoughts, Tom On May 1, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Maybe RR should consider a generous and widely publicized sidegrade deal for current owners of Director who are nervous. I've seen such campaigns pull in huge sales. On May 1, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Especially since a lot of people use Director/Flash for software development that it is not the best tool for and can actually make some projects obsolete. It would not take much of an argument to persuade these people to switch or at least try an xTalk for. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: window in a window
Bob Hartley wrote: I have an app that has a toolbar that does things to a window (an independent rev file). However, I want to embed this independent window into one stack and then save it back out. EG. Imagine a word processor like MS word without an open document. You have a blank window and a toolbar, call it bobsBlankWindow. Now I want to have a rev file to open within bobsBlankWindow and then be saved back as the rev file when edited. What you're asking for is called MDI (Multiple Document Interface), described in the Win HIG here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwue/html/ch10g.asp There is a request in Bugzilla for optional support of MDI: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1928 It should be noted, however, that although MDI was once very popular it's becoming less common in favor of the other three windows models suggested in the HIG: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwue/html/part3.asp One of the main reasons for its decline is that it's often cited as confusing to new users, since it's so radically different from all three of the other sanctioned models. But if you decide to go with an SDI (Single Document Interface) it raises the question: What greets the user who starts the app without a document? There are two common approaches: - have a new blank document created when the app opens - have a Welcome screen that lets the user choose whether to create a new document or open an exising document. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Split screen output for Presentations
Oops I think I actually forgot to ask my question: How do you do this in Revolution: Keynote can output one window to the channel that goes out to the projector -- video port. i.e. it shows on the screen. and the second window is locked onto the personal PC's LCD screen, where the latter window has notes for the presentor which are not seen by the audience who are watching output to the project -- large display screen in the front of the hall. ?? Sivakatirswami On May 1, 2005, at 10:45 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Sivakatirswami, Yes Keynote can split the output but only during full screen mode. There is a preference under Preferences/ Presenter Display that has a check box for Use alternate display to view presenter information with some neat options for a timer/clock etc.. You can also preview what the second window looks like if you don't have a projector hooked up, by a button that says 'Edit Presenter Layout... otherwise you don't get to see the second window until full screen mode. Also, I don't remember for sure but I think you have to turn Video Mirroring off? - not 100% sure though. The thing that distinguishes Keynote from PowerPoint is that it has much richer graphics and video support. It also has better interaction using text and graphics for navigating. ( I was able to prototype a game that played in Keynote that could not be done in PP.) The other thing Keynote has is XML which will/should open some doors for other apps that might have even better tools to do something with the Keynote presentations. I also agree that graphics support and graphic specific tools should be high on the list for the next improvements to REV. I would like to fill some of the 'holes' left behind during the transition from MM to Adobe for Director. I am sure once Adobe merges them DIrector might get better but for now there will be a nervous gap with people looking else where 'just in case' Director is dropped. Even if it isn't dropped I can at least exploit some of these issues. Especially since a lot of people use Director/Flash for software development that it is not the best tool for and can actually make some projects obsolete. It would not take much of an argument to persuade these people to switch or at least try an xTalk for. Tom On May 1, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Apple's new Keynote has an interesting new feature: It can make 2 separate windows! Wow! (grin) Ok, yes, REv can do that and a lot more though Rev's Graphic options are still a bit stone age compared to what iWorks offers now. [aside: humbly suggest that for Rev to move forward, that the back end of the engine for applications development is already ramped up enough (for the time being), and and a new focus on graphics Dev both in the IDE and for delivery is needed to keep Rev on the Cutting Edge of the Future, especially now that Adobe has bought Macro Media. I know, I know, we don't want the core of the executable to get so bloated that delivery of a little widget application weighs in at 5-6 megabytes, so, ala Richard's earlier musings, some modularity option may be needed.]] OK that said, I do have a specific question: Keynote can output one window to the channel that goes out to the projector -- video port. i.e. it shows on the screen. and the second window is locked onto the personal PC's LCD screen, where the latter window has notes for the presentor which are not seen by the audience who are watching output to the project -- large display screen in the front of the hall. Thomas (McGr...) you do this stuff all the time right? Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cannot get Rev to answer from Applescript app
Hello from sunny Las Vegas, I have a script the runs from BBEdit, Script Editor, and also the OSX menu bar that used to work fine... tell application Revolution221 do script testt end tell and now with Rev 2.5.1 nothing I try works... tell application Revolution do script testt end tell Adding Revolution to the library does add it to the list, but opening the dictionary produces no window...compile shows an error Perhaps along the same line, revCopyFile no longer works. Do I have some install issue? Version issue? I don't really want to go back to 221 Could find nothing online or in the List. --- OSX 10.3.9 G5 dual Rev 2.5.1 Goal ...Connecting 5 apps using Revolution as the hub (used to work) OSX-Photoshop Actions-XL-BBEdit-Transmit-Eudora - Thanks for you help :-) Jim Ault ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone using Tiger Yet?
Been using it for 2 days . . . no problems yet. And, I love it! On May 1, 2005, at 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 9 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 08:24:50 -0500 From: Burrton Wodruff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone using Tiger Yet? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Folk, Anyone using Tiger with Rev yet? Any problems? Burt Woodruff RippleSoft ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sorting Multiple Fields
What a twit I am! I didn't even think of using 1 field with tabstops or that you could sort by word or items in a field. You guys are great!! Thanks to all that responded., I now have a lot of good ideas to consider. Cheers, Roger On May 1, 2005, at 12:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 4 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:10:02 -0700 From: Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sorting Multiple Fields To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Is there a certain reason you have to use synchronized fields at all? Won't tabbed fields work better for you, or are you doing a lot of stuff with column math? sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
