Re: Frozen Accidents
H Maybe we could get Apple to make one, and maybe name it for a famous scientist, like Isaac whats-his-name?? (Not, not Asimov ;-) Cheers, Kat Thomas McGrath III wrote: There is software that does writing with 'Gestures'. If you move the mouse/trackball in different movements it will 'write' text for you. I can't remember the name right now though. I would absolutely love a tablet Mac OSX with touch screen. I have used pen input and speech input/recognition for a while and they are ok but I don't use them much. I do use a pen for drawing and sketching though. TOm [snipped] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Thanks for help, everyone
Many thanks to all of you who helped me with my last STANDALONE query. Of course you can use the Object Inspector to change a stack's mainStack property. How dumb can I get? With new and complex software there's a tendency to go carefully - Don't touch that, you'll break something! And it's also hard at first to believe that in Revolution there is a simple way to do anything you want. A manual would be nice... -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Frozen Accidents
On 05/05/2005 07:21:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED], How to use Revolution (use-revolution@lists.runrev.com) wrote: H Maybe we could get Apple to make one, and maybe name it for a famous scientist, like Isaac whats-his-name Newton,, been done. Cheers Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.4 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: French list
very nice Marielle. You should come more often to the list! We need more of that open talk and i definitely discovered new things to script thanks to the lady icon on KenjiIkojima's! Domarigato osajimas (sorry the google translator yeilded ?? !) ah no, it was FireFox who couldn't display it correctly... (if you can see that)... http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kenjikojima.com%2Frunrev%2Fhandbook%2Findex.htmllangpair=ja%7Cenhl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8prev=%2Flanguage_tools works great in english (does it translate the code tag though? Thanks! (for once ie explorer fares better) cheers Xav I removed the translators from monsieurx.com a month a ago, they didn't seem useful and no one complained about it... The page loads a bit faster too ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marielle Lange Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 03:28 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: French list Cher Dom, Merci pour l'info. J'ai jet un oeil. Le trafic a l'air en descente douce, en effet. Domage, apparemment l'existence d'une liste franaise avait attir des petits commerces dsireux d'employer des revolutionarios. [Babelfish ;-): Thank you for information. I threw an eye. The traffic has the air in soft descent, indeed. Domage, apparently the existence of a French list had attracted small trade eager to employ revolutionarios.] I am afraid, I do not expect to be able to be a regular on the French list. I simply suffer from information overload. I am frankly unable to keep up with the messages on this US list (I have 1136 unread _digests_ in my mailbox). I am not a professional. I had some presence on the list this week because I really needed to take my mind away from some stuff at work. Otherwise, the only time I can afford to read the revolution emails or do some coding is at week-ends. Best is probably to accept Ro's invitation to post in foreign languages on the US list. Most of the posts are about code anyway and the code is always in transcript, which is understood by everybody on this list (see http://www.kenjikojima.com/runrev/handbook/index.html, for instance for terrific stacks hidden behind the japanese text). But, yes, babelfish translations are a reasonable request if we expect a vigilant moderation of this list. No shame to have when you write in another language anyway. Try, try, try, and keep on trying is the rule that must be followed to become an expert in anything. [W. Clement Stone] Amicalement, Marielle ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Frozen Accidents
I'd rather use an Asimov pad than a Newton bw (backwoods as in obsolete) tablet! Why did they never port the newton os to other palm devices i wonder... Look at how long it took Moft to make the pocket pc os... Didn't Steve Jobs or his team of voodoo technology designers ever watch StarTrek? http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/technology/article/70189.html If only my rev dream could talk... I've only managed that in HyperCard so far... Anyone know a speech recognition external or how to link speech recog in windows with RunRev ? It would be nice if you could write to the rev console arg[] without launching another instance of rev. X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Katherine Cochrane Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 08:21 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Frozen Accidents H Maybe we could get Apple to make one, and maybe name it for a famous scientist, like Isaac whats-his-name?? (Not, not Asimov ;-) Cheers, Kat Thomas McGrath III wrote: There is software that does writing with 'Gestures'. If you move the mouse/trackball in different movements it will 'write' text for you. I can't remember the name right now though. I would absolutely love a tablet Mac OSX with touch screen. I have used pen input and speech input/recognition for a while and they are ok but I don't use them much. I do use a pen for drawing and sketching though. TOm [snipped] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux/Unix folder paths
Hi Sarah, Hello all you Linux/Unix gurus out there, I was hoping someone would be able to tell me a few things about where such systems put various types of files. Where so you store preferences? I see that the specialFolderPath() function is Windows Mac only, so how would I know where to store preferences on a Linux system? Where should an application be installed? And what if I want the application to be available to a particular user only e.g. on my Mac OS X system, I have /Applications for apps that everyone can use and /Users/sarah/Applications for apps that only I can use. The second is better if I need to write to the application folder as the user has write access to that folder even if not an admin user (at least I think that is correct). you can use - $HOME to get the current users home directory. ... put $HOME / into folder2store_the_prefs_and_other_things ... Works on Unix, OS X (and on Linux probably, not tested). If the user cannot write in his home directory, then it's no use anyway :-) TIA, Sarah Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FineTune searching
Neat, Mark...Filter is not among the words of my_frontThoughts! /H - Here's my take on what you presented: function booleanMatch fineTuneLevel, pStr, pSrcString local blnReturn -- turn multiple lines into a stream replace cr with space in pSrcString put false into blnReturn --| Param fineTuneLevel: -- 1 = exact phrase -- 2 = all words [AND] -- 3 = any string [OR] switch fineTuneLevel case 1 -- EXACT filter pSrcString with * pStr * put (pSrcString is not empty) into blnReturn break case 2 -- ALL repeat for each word w in pStr filter pSrcString with * w * end repeat put (pSrcString is not empty) into blnReturn break default -- ANY repeat for each word w in pStr if (w is in pSrcString) then put true into blnReturn -- no need to go on exit repeat end if end repeat end switch return blnReturn end booleanMatch - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: French list
Marielle Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best is probably to accept Ro's invitation to post in foreign languages on the US list. How about tagging the subject with a language sign? By default, it will be [En] in french, [Fr] in german, [Ge] in brasilian portuguese, [BPt] ;-) and so on... -- Revolutionario ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: French list
Shouldn't Germany be [De] ?? Perhaps using established domainname codes would help... Judy On Thu, 5 May 2005, Dom wrote: Marielle Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best is probably to accept Ro's invitation to post in foreign languages on the US list. How about tagging the subject with a language sign? By default, it will be [En] in french, [Fr] in german, [Ge] in brasilian portuguese, [BPt] ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: French list
Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't Germany be [De] ?? Absolutely, you are right!!! I was somewhat [Help! Hachette Oxford for contaminé ;-)] contaminated by the english name for Deutsch ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: French list
This is where a forum would fare definitely better than a maillist. Plus there's the google translation when you can't get it in your language. All too common for some products made in Germany or France where documentation or information can be richer in the original language. This is the way it works for huge user bases like the GTR or FPS communities (1 racers of all europe today, US version soon available... and they're working on other racing genres - http://www.10tacle.com/gtr-game/en/index.php?News/42 which is going to get a huge crowd of older generation racing fans into the game and more forums still!!! The good this about them is that you get not mail mess, and you get an email when someone responds to your posts or in the subjects that concern your forum subject. Much smarter, less intrussive. If you're a member of monsieurx.com, you can activate this too btw. ;) Imagine racing only with Jacky Ickx or another legend...). Another example is satelite discussion groups where the amount of subjects dwarf RunRevs by a couple galactic scales... And sometimes you need a polish or romanian translation... So far i've managed without but you get the point... Someone in the forum will help or it's easy to find the bit your need... It's good to speak as many languages as you can! One last bit, which i will ironicaly mention again for Kevin, a nice Rev forum would be much better exposure to the world with what Rev can do. In fruityLoops, the subjects in the forums are filled with screenshots, sample files, mp3 rendered files, templates, new synths, links, it's an encyclopedia on music already by itself and by the users! Maybe the TAOO forums will grow one day with questions... http://www.monsieurx.com/forums nobody's got as many smilies as I do! Soon available in a soon to be released TAOO image library that is just too cool to share! 3 TAOO stack releases in 3 days - 75 to go! Now that's performance ;) You wanted to see hyper-blogging? Members of MonsieurX.com can choose their skins, interface language, receive update emails, etc... but you must login... yes... pain, damnation and forms from hell - but only if you care to reply... It's the price of comfort ;) cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Perry Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:20 To: Dom; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: French list Shouldn't Germany be [De] ?? Perhaps using established domainname codes would help... Judy On Thu, 5 May 2005, Dom wrote: Marielle Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best is probably to accept Ro's invitation to post in foreign languages on the US list. How about tagging the subject with a language sign? By default, it will be [En] in french, [Fr] in german, [Ge] in brasilian portuguese, [BPt] ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Why not write a networking protocol that resembles scripting in Rev? Make a library of it requestsendfiletohost hostip,filepath sendfile cancelfilesend receivefile etc... (dont limit it to sendstack...) and it's not even complicated actually!!! PC1 wait for call c on port p validateuser/data = get file from me (pc2) with this id go stack url pc2ipaddress:p or read from socket url blabla to url (file:thisfilepath) PC2 send call get file from me... to pc1ipaddress open socket on port p with message sendfile to pc2 whatever... on sendfile x write to socket p url (file:x) to pc2ipaddress end sendfile just off my head but it should work like a charm. There's a full example Or the taoo way, all we need is: 1 stack in the backscript/stackinuse (the network manager) to monitor network traffic or establish the connections. Much like I've seen with the revChat stack. but as a library with a protocol language to exchange files, scripts, information or objects in xml, etcml formats. Naturally there will be issues as threading is still a dream in RunRev but it allows the following doors to open if listening on multiple ports is not viable: Use multiple instances of RunRev to communicate across different ports with 1 or more portlistening runrev-instances. Transfer stacks to them to make remote/distributed execution or send remote scripts/data (synchronicity and security is an issue without or without threading). But i think i got a quick solution for that - the roundrobin heartbeat method as it is known in clusters. Im certainly on this path at work (large server farm multi-site LAN/SAN/NAS/WAN environment) to manage different servers without any NT tools to depend on (they tend to break/change parameters depending on windows versions). Although with windows base networking, transfering files across the network is a simple as get shell(robocopy \\server1\driveletterorsharename[$]\filepath.fileext \ \\server2\driveletterorsharename[$]\filepath.fileext \ myoptionswitcheswhichvaries[situationcontext]) xcopy, scopy, robocopy, xxxcopy (the best - 10 pages of switches for all occasions - i have plans one day to write an interface for it for synchronized copies but Robocopy has done the job so far.). One other thing to know is regarding extra long file paths. Most copy programs will choke and abort that file. It's good to keep logs. For extra long file path xxxcopy or subst.exe (Net use only maps the share's root, subst can mount as a drive any path in a shared resource.) Using file sharing is so much simpler than with net use Franz. Although there's performance hits depending on how you copy from where to where. If you copy from server a to server c via server b (in rdp - terminal service remote desktop p?) there will be a cached copy from a to b to c... Things to know... As you see, a one liner suffices for any occasion. And all this i already have in an NTResKit library stack that handles multiple shares, files, security and audit settings or permissions, log errors parsing (and fixing), user-editing, etc etc etc that NT domain admins do. Not free! But there's a couple simple examples on MonsieurX.com. I've done all of it in MC with shell calls - never the RevTools. Having to delete around 50GBs of files here and there using rev is unthinkeable... And it doesn't support unc file paths //servername/share. Would this solve all our problems? Send script to stack on //PCServer I dont want to write externals because someone already wrote the wheel using shell tools which i can launch and forget! (actually not a good idea to forget unless you're sure nothing iwll break down in between - which happens all the time!) But for rev-networking, like the libURL code we enjoy so much, there's lots of benefits to have it built in rather than use external tools. For example, if the shell program stalls or awaits an answer, rev doesn't know what to do... (besides the fact that your shell(start...) because that too can fail (the directory being set for a non existent folder or drive letter for example! And there is still no timeout for any commands unless you trick Rev to do so with a second instance of Rev that kills the first one if it stops responding - round-robin cluster technique for better availability (google it). Also, some shells require interactive messages and we can't do that that I know (like writting to the args[] or typing text into the shell (like the message!). Net use can block you this way btw if a password is required... Know your switches! All it takes is a little scratching to see all the problems and limits in RunRev's current engine in this particular field. But i'll be experimenting with that soon. We'll see: SendObject hostobject, ascriptobject, returnmessageandparametersinforequiredobject In terms of long-term reliability, relying on other programs can create issues of incompatibility with parameters or output which are also out of your control but it does save a lot
Re: Rev and Photoshop
Sivakatirswami wrote: Does anyone know of a way to get Revolution to read and write to Adobe Photoshop's per image metadata? real world scenario: our photographer in Nepal (world famous, doesn't just work for us) Thomas Kelly... we just sent him on assignment to Sri Lanka. He's back now and has a kaJillion digital images that he wants to caption inside PhotoShop. Opening the file info for each one of these in Photoshop is a killer process. I tried to have our managing editor consider having the metadata as a separate fooPhoto.psd /fooPhoto.txt document pair, for which I have many Rev apps that can easily preview thumbnailis and allow for data entry very quickly. And though one can see lot's of advantages of having this data as a separate file... the concept of the caption being part of the photo file itself seems to be ingrained as the only way to go... The Photoshop metadata is EXIF tags attached to JPEG (or RAW) files. There are 2 distinct versions of it - traditional EXIF data in a binary format, and new (Adobe specified) XML-based version. Currently, the new version is mostly supported by Adobe applications - so they generally leave the older format info in there as well. You can extract basic EXIF info using the EXIF library I posted back in November (available in RevOnline - under alextweedly called libEXIF). Note it doesn't do many manufacturer specific data, does not handle the new Adobe format and doesn't handle updating the info. Changing to write some data would be easy - but writing exif data in general is quite hard (and of course carries the danger of file corruption). I actually stopped work on that library, and switched to using a set of tools and utilities via shell. The ones I use are at http://home.arcor.de/ahuggel/exiv2/ and reportedly work (or can easily be made to work) on Mac ( as well as Win and Linux which is what is directly supported). What I do is use them to bulk-extract the info I want from a directory at a time, then process those separate files in Rev, and then use the tools to re-insert the data. I do however agree - having the metadata as part of the file is the right way to do it (until we get metadata aware file systems which will ensure that the metadata goes everywhere the file goes). I use this extract-modify-reinsert as a purely transient state, I try not to leave significant data in the additional files for any length of time, -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quick Demo stack for creating Transpanrecy effect.
Chipp, I was wrong : you can't set transparent pixels using the replace function (actually I thought that the 1st byte of each pixel was used for the alpha channel, but it's just zero). But you can try the following script which uses the offset function. With the image in your example, it's roughly 28 times faster : on mouseUp set cursor to watch lock screen put binaryEncode(C,0) into a put a into b repeat 3 times put binaryEncode(C,255) after a end repeat put imagedata of img 2 into IMD put alphadata of img 2 into AD put 0 into sk repeat forever put offset(a,IMD,sk) into c if c=0 then exit repeat else add c+3 to sk put b into char sk/4 of AD end if end repeat set alphadata of img 2 to AD end mouseUp JB Chipp, one more question : have you tried to use the replace function for groups of 4 bytes in the imagedata to speed up things, instead of checking binary values in the imagedata and then setting each byte of the alphadata ? best, JB Helping out a friend, I did this. It could be good for a number of things including: Creating cursors Creating transparent GIFs etc.. in the messagebox: go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altMakeTrans.rev; altMakeTransparent This is a small demo stack which has a neat function which can make a specific color transparent in an image. The demo makes all white pixels transparent. The function is in the script of the button, Make White Transparent -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and Photoshop
FWIW, The Actions in PS can handle writing to the Caption part etc. of multiple files in PS. It can also handle batch append and loading of .xmp files which can be saved/read/created in a text program. Also, A great program for that many photos is Portfolio which I used for a CD project with a REV front end that had over 10,000 photos. HTH Tom On May 4, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Does anyone know of a way to get Revolution to read and write to Adobe Photoshop's per image metadata? real world scenario: our photographer in Nepal (world famous, doesn't just work for us) Thomas Kelly... we just sent him on assignment to Sri Lanka. He's back now and has a kaJillion digital images that he wants to caption inside PhotoShop. Opening the file info for each one of these in Photoshop is a killer process. I tried to have our managing editor consider having the metadata as a separate fooPhoto.psd /fooPhoto.txt document pair, for which I have many Rev apps that can easily preview thumbnailis and allow for data entry very quickly. And though one can see lot's of advantages of having this data as a separate file... the concept of the caption being part of the photo file itself seems to be ingrained as the only way to go... Sivakatirswami Himalayan Academy Publications at Kauai's Hindu Monastery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.HinduismToday.com www.Gurudeva.org www.Hindu.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Fr] [En] Re: Frozen Accidents
MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did they never port the newton os to other palm devices i wonder... Look at how long it took Moft to make the pocket pc os... Oui, eh bien ici qqun a mis la main sur un stock de MP 130... Heureux, je suis :-) Quand c'est sorti, je revais d'en avoir un...mais le prix !!! Maintenant je reve de RR on Newton 8-) I had the chance to get a newton MP 130 ( a forgotten stock) Happy :-) At the date they released it, I dreamed to get one... it was very pricey!!! For now, I dream of RR on Newton 8-) -- Revolutionario ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Quick Demo stack for creating Transpanrecy effect.
Here's a little stack i did way back 2 or 3 years ago to sort out this transparency format. I sent it to Chipp bot didn't get an answer (busy guy preparing for Monterey!) and it does it in different in a different way But i never managed to work the mickey cursors correctly. Until there's color in them that is, i'd rather wait than live in a b/w world. But the cool thing about it is the text based editor ;) After a few crashes and hardly any success making it work, i gave up... go URL http://monsieurx.com/hyper/stacks/MickeyHandCursor.rev; The name is because of the cursors i wanted to use in XOS at the time. ;) cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jbv Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 13:05 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Quick Demo stack for creating Transpanrecy effect. Chipp, I was wrong : you can't set transparent pixels using the replace function (actually I thought that the 1st byte of each pixel was used for the alpha channel, but it's just zero). But you can try the following script which uses the offset function. With the image in your example, it's roughly 28 times faster : on mouseUp set cursor to watch lock screen put binaryEncode(C,0) into a put a into b repeat 3 times put binaryEncode(C,255) after a end repeat put imagedata of img 2 into IMD put alphadata of img 2 into AD put 0 into sk repeat forever put offset(a,IMD,sk) into c if c=0 then exit repeat else add c+3 to sk put b into char sk/4 of AD end if end repeat set alphadata of img 2 to AD end mouseUp JB Chipp, one more question : have you tried to use the replace function for groups of 4 bytes in the imagedata to speed up things, instead of checking binary values in the imagedata and then setting each byte of the alphadata ? best, JB Helping out a friend, I did this. It could be good for a number of things including: Creating cursors Creating transparent GIFs etc.. in the messagebox: go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altMakeTrans.rev; altMakeTransparent This is a small demo stack which has a neat function which can make a specific color transparent in an image. The demo makes all white pixels transparent. The function is in the script of the button, Make White Transparent -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [Fr] [En] Re: Frozen Accidents
i settled for a PowerBook 140 at the time and it ran HyperCard! ;) The good old times ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dom Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 13:14 To: How to use Revolution Subject: [Fr] [En] Re: Frozen Accidents MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did they never port the newton os to other palm devices i wonder... Look at how long it took Moft to make the pocket pc os... Oui, eh bien ici qqun a mis la main sur un stock de MP 130... Heureux, je suis :-) Quand c'est sorti, je revais d'en avoir un...mais le prix !!! Maintenant je reve de RR on Newton 8-) I had the chance to get a newton MP 130 ( a forgotten stock) Happy :-) At the date they released it, I dreamed to get one... it was very pricey!!! For now, I dream of RR on Newton 8-) -- Revolutionario ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 2.5 from 2.2????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 5, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Brian Yennie wrote: To do that, RunRev would have to register at least one signature for each customer, which doesn't seem practical. (Signatures aren't arbitrary; they're assigned by Apple, and it's a big no-no to roll your own because it risks tromping on a legitimate, assigned signature that's in use for another application.) Which would be a shame considering how easy it is. You just fill out a short form on Apple's web site and Apple eMails you after a day or so and tells you if you've got 'em or not. It's quick and easy, relatively painless. http://developer.apple.com/datatype/creatorcode.html All they ask for is your name, your company's name, address, and phone number, your eMail address, the name of the product, whether or not it is a device driver (for Rev apps... generally No), and the code(s) you are registering for the product. You can enter up to 12 codes on one form to save you time; they do seem to imply that you should submit a separate form for each product, however. True... but I would guess that of the fraction of people who are actually filling out the creator code, even a fraction of that actually register their signatures. (I think I'd put up a warning message when someone builds with the default signature, though, just for general awareness.) This is an excellent idea, and I would recommend it to Rev. Anyone BZ this yet? If not, I'm certainly willing. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCehFJ7aqtWrR9cZoRAuNAAJ99T13sgrDAB6PBLgS0oI7z4/yaUwCeOWJg fMOdtAWcg6DPWJwSR0ypQy8= =/OK4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
Hi Dennis, There is a trade-off, there. As a researcher, it matters more that something takes me 1 day rather 5 to progam. It does not matter that much that it takes 1 minute rather than 3 to run (I can always use it as an excuse for a coffee break). What I frequently need to do is create word frequency tables for a 20MB corpus by using frequency[tword] (with each word as a string). I have tried different programming and scripting language and the one I sticked with was gawk, a non GUI efficient text processor (like Perl, without the unlegible code syntax). Not to be able to use a string as array index did put me off of Visual Basic (I found solutions to bypass that but then the program needed 5 hours to do what gawk could do in less than 20 min.). To be forced to declare the dimension of the array beforehand put me off of C/C++/Java. One of the reason I adopted Revolution is that I can construct a GUI (which awk cannot) and still index my array with a string and don't have to know, in advance, the approximate number of index values I will need (I was turning to Python and wxPython just before I learned about Revolution). I had been poundering on that question before... why not merge Revolution with Awk? Awk/Gawk is very small (200KB) and is the best program I know to rapidly handle text (with rapid processing of string-indexed arrays of huge size and fully fledge regular expression syntax). Revolution is the best program I know to rapidly handle interface design and internet protocols. Marielle This BZ on arrays would be a welcome enhancement, but it would not improve the speed of processing arrays. I was thinking along the lines of a high speed array processing instruction subset. They would be less flexible than what we have now --the nice flexible data types, dynamic memory allocation, and flexible key names are what costs the operators so much time to execute. Just let me define the dimensions and data size for a fixed memory allocation and provide operators that work on fixed data types. It should fly through the array calculations at least ten times faster. I just entered a BZ request for it. If you agree, vote. BZ# 2813 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and Photoshop
Sivakatirswami, Here is a link to a great pdf on XMP (Adobe's metadata). It has a section on External Storage of Metadata. Quote External Storage of Metadata: It is suggested, though not required, that XMP metadata be embedded in the file that the metadata describes (as XMP Packets). There are cases where this is not appropriate or possible, such as database storage models, extremes of file size, or due to format and access issues. [...] [...] The question arises of how to associate the metadata with the file containing the content. Applications should: 1. Write the external file as a complete well-formed XML document, including the leading XML declaration. 2. The file extension should be .xmp . For Mac OS, optionally set the file's type to 'TEXT'. 3. If a MIIME type is needed, use application/rdf+xml. 4. Write external metadata as though it were embedded and then had the XMP Packets extracted and catenated by a postprocessor. 5. If possible, place the instance ID used in the rdf:about attribute within the file the XMP describes, so that format-aware applications can make sure they have the right metadata. For applications that need to find external XMP files, look in the same directory for a file with the same name a s the main document but with an .xmp extension. (This is called a sidecar XMP file) Pretty cool stuff, http://www.adobe.com/products/xmp/pdfs/xmpspec.pdf HTH Tom On May 5, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: FWIW, The Actions in PS can handle writing to the Caption part etc. of multiple files in PS. It can also handle batch append and loading of .xmp files which can be saved/read/created in a text program. Also, A great program for that many photos is Portfolio which I used for a CD project with a REV front end that had over 10,000 photos. HTH Tom On May 4, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Does anyone know of a way to get Revolution to read and write to Adobe Photoshop's per image metadata? real world scenario: our photographer in Nepal (world famous, doesn't just work for us) Thomas Kelly... we just sent him on assignment to Sri Lanka. He's back now and has a kaJillion digital images that he wants to caption inside PhotoShop. Opening the file info for each one of these in Photoshop is a killer process. I tried to have our managing editor consider having the metadata as a separate fooPhoto.psd /fooPhoto.txt document pair, for which I have many Rev apps that can easily preview thumbnailis and allow for data entry very quickly. And though one can see lot's of advantages of having this data as a separate file... the concept of the caption being part of the photo file itself seems to be ingrained as the only way to go... Sivakatirswami Himalayan Academy Publications at Kauai's Hindu Monastery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.HinduismToday.com www.Gurudeva.org www.Hindu.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
Marielle Lange wrote: I had been poundering on that question before... why not merge Revolution with Awk? Awk/Gawk is very small (200KB) and is the best program I know to rapidly handle text (with rapid processing of string-indexed arrays of huge size and fully fledge regular expression syntax). Revolution is the best program I know to rapidly handle interface design and internet protocols. I'll bet that would work quite well as an external -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unicode
Hello and good morning, Does anyone know if Unicode supports regular characters like I am typing now? I always thought that Unicode was for double bit characters. But in a discussion someone asked if it also supported regular single bit characters as well and I realized that i wasn't sure. Thanks Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Icons for OSX
I'm probably doing this backwards but I'm developing with 2.5 on a PC then building standalones for OSX PC (gives me a pleasant surprise when I first view on the mac) I'm stuck on creating OSX application icons. For Windows I'm using Articons and that works fine for the PC side but the icons are not recognised by Rev when I try to select them for OSX. I've read about Icon Composer but have no access to it (how do I get it?) What format are OSX icons? Thanks Kevin Stallibrass ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
custom properties
Dear Rev programmers, Can some 1 make a simple stack that will defind a variable and place it on a custom properties so other Rev programs can use this custom properties. I did a search and found nothing that I could understand. Thank you, Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Icons for OSX
Le 05-mai-05, à 16:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm probably doing this backwards but I'm developing with 2.5 on a PC then building standalones for OSX PC (gives me a pleasant surprise when I first view on the mac) I'm stuck on creating OSX application icons. For Windows I'm using Articons and that works fine for the PC side but the icons are not recognised by Rev when I try to select them for OSX. I've read about Icon Composer but have no access to it (how do I get it?) What format are OSX icons? format : ICS I use the apple software : IconComposer very easy to use. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and Photoshop
Hi Alex, Sivakatirswami wrote: ... I actually stopped work on that library, and switched to using a set of tools and utilities via shell. The ones I use are at http://home.arcor.de/ahuggel/exiv2/ and reportedly work (or can easily be made to work) on Mac ( as well as Win and Linux which is what is directly supported). What I do is use them to bulk-extract the info I want from a directory at a time, then process those separate files in Rev, and then use the tools to re-insert the data. I do however agree - having the metadata as part of the file is the right way to do it (until we get metadata aware file systems which will ensure that the metadata goes everywhere the file goes). I use this extract-modify-reinsert as a purely transient state, I try not to leave significant data in the additional files for any length of time, thanks for the URL, very interesting... But maybe you can give me a hint (or two :-) When i use the ugly dosbox it works fine, if i put everything in my homefolder - C:\Documents and Settings\klaus But when i try the same command in Rev with: put shell(exiv2 test.jpg) i get an error and the result is not empty (but also not the wanted info ;-)... How can i put the returned values into a field in Rev and how can i define WHERE the app exiv2.exe and my image are located on my hd within shell? Know what i mean? Thank you very much in advance! Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [off]gmail invites
But what is a gmail invite?
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Re: French list
Hi Xavier, I am glad you followed up on this. I did not want to push too much in my previous email, to avoid to appear rude to the english speakers of the list. When writing my previous post, the idea of newlang (novlang for the ones who read Orwell in French) popped to my mind. Newlang is an impoverished language used by the state (in 1984 by Orwell) to better control the masses by reducing the scope of idea they can have. Non English speakers are in a newlang situation. The most frustrating about writing in another language is that you are limited in the ideas you can express or the nuances you can understand. It only takes a month abroad to learn enough of the language to survive in the country. It takes a lot more to have a command of the language good enough to benefit from advices given in a non-native language. The good this about them is that you get not mail mess, and you get an email when someone responds to your posts or in the subjects that concern your forum subject. Much smarter, less intrussive. If you're a member of monsieurx.com, you can activate this too btw. ;) Same for the tikiwiki I use (http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/)... I understand Xavier. It is difficult to be revolutionario at one level (revolution) and stop being it at others (the fact that many groups and associations have abandonned mailing lists and adopted forums like you suggest). The argument for mailing list is the (relative ease) of moderation. Revolution company cannot afford to have any mishappening on the official list. Simply because what happens on the list impacts on their credibility, as a company. I share with you the belief that a community gets more benefit when trusting and empowering its member than when fearing the damages that a black sheep could cause. Still, free (community rather than company representative monitored) speech environments can only be provided by hobbyists, not directly associated with a trademark. Hence your initiative, hence my initiative. But, then, the danger of having users take control is that this encourages a duplication of resources (too much information to read)... and hesitation about joining because there is no certificate of quality. It's not a problem when discussing your passion of racing. It is a bit more when asking questions about a computer language in the context of your work activity. You wanted to see hyper-blogging? Members of MonsieurX.com can choose their skins, interface language, receive update emails, etc... but you must login... yes... pain, damnation and forms from hell - but only if you care to reply... It's the price of comfort ;) You have a new user! By my experience, unmoderated forums are often of very high quality (user moderation is often stricter than what I moderator would dare to impose)... and yes the information is so much easier to find (I have noticed that some basic questions often come back on this mailing list). Imagine racing only with Jacky Ickx. A countryman of mine :-) It's good to speak as many languages as you can! Agreed! The first time we travelled abroad, my fiance (NZ) was surprised to see me buy a language book. I never gave it a thought before. Wherever I go, I use the time in the train or plane to learn a bit of the language of the country and make sure I know at least how to say thank you very much, hi, and goodbye. In the past, I always had excellent experiences when travelling. Things are quite different now that I live in the UK. It starts at the British travel agency where the guy really do not understand that we ask to book a flight out of a package deal (you know, the stuff that guarantees that you will remain hidden behind walls with fellow countrymen for the length of your stay -- with eventually one or two group outings at pubs). When in countries like Tunisia, we get treated in the most unfriendly manner when they hear me speak English with my fiance... I really feel treated like a money pump! They change of attitude when I switch to French (though, sometimes, annoyingly, they comment on the good quality of my french ... for a foreigner... humpf, that's it, I knew it, I have now a foreign accent when speaking my native language... g). Sure, nothing beats English for the rapid communication of information-rich content. I prefer to buy computer manuals and academic textbooks in English than in my native French. But for the rhythm, the melody, the sheer beauty of the written language, other languages are superior! English speakers would only have their life enlighten by the posting of mails in other languages ;-). Who knows, this may help improve their future traveling experience? [humour intended] Marielle ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: French list
IMHO it will make sense to post in french (or any other language) to the list only when there's a french (or any other language) of Transcript... (grin) Actually, far from being a bad joke, this suggestion makes sense, since Xtalk has been designed to be as close as possible to natural english, therefore the effort made by non-english speakers to decypher a script is probably similar to the effort of understanding posts on the list... Best, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [off]gmail invites
gmail is google's (very nice) free large-capacity mail service. The problem is that it's in beta, so you can't get an account unless you get invited to join by someone. Usually when google passes out invites, it's only a few and only to a few people. However, for whatever reason they gave me 100 or so to pass around, probably because the invites I've sent out previously have attracted lots of bodies. Gmail is great for mailing lists like this one. On other mailing lists I participate in, lots of people are using gmail. Due to the way it is set up (and the fact that google gives you 2 GB (that's right, GB) of storage, it's well suited to keeping everything and searching it later. In other words, you wind up with your own built-in archive search tool, which is wonderful for mailing lists. I'm actually considering talking to one of the other listmoms I deal with to see if I can get the entire archive of that list mailed to me so that I'll have it for faster searching. It doesn't cost anything to try it. You might like it! It really is great for mail lists like this. It, among other things, keeps my other in boxes uncluttered, and does a good job with spam, and for being web-based is surprisingly simple to use, and yet powerful all at the same time. -- http://taoofrunrev.blogspot.com http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FineTune searching
Hugh- Thursday, May 5, 2005, 12:58:10 AM, you wrote: Fac Neat, Mark...Filter is not among the words of my_frontThoughts! It's starting to percolate up to the top of mine. I've been randomly going back over some of my old scripts and refactoring them to use filter() for speed. And I've entered bug #2805 to expand the regex handling of the filter command. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
selecting from a list with aid of keyboard
I know that this issue was addressed sometime in the last couple of years, but I can't seem to locate it: When selecting a single line from a scrolling list (this being a Rev list, not the OS file selection box)it would be useful to enter 1-3 keys to have the field scroll to the entered letter, or letters. Could someone point me to the discussion of that subject? Thanks, Kurt ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: French list
Marielle Lange wrote: I am glad you followed up on this. I did not want to push too much in my previous email, to avoid to appear rude to the english speakers of the list. One of the most greatest realizations I had at the Euro RevCon was how accommodating non-English speakers often are of those of us who speak only one language (or in my case two if Boontling counts g). Only about half of the attendees at ERC were native English speakers, yet no one had any trouble using English as the lingua franca. Considering I'm among the majority of Americans who speak only one language I was grateful, if not humbled. So while I don't know if there's a language mandate for this list, personally I don't mind posts in any language. Given the ratio of English to non-English speakers on this list it shouldn't be surprising if there are fewer responses to non-English posts, but I would feel very uncomfortable about banning them. I can use Google when I need to, and it probably wouldn't hurt me to be more familiar with other languages. If the folks who speak the half-dozen languages who were present at ERC can put up with a weekend of English, it would seem the least we can do is be equally accomodating. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cursor issues in Tiger
OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: After installing Tiger (17 Al PB, 1 gig) the pointer seems to stick. It doesn't change mode when moving to different parts of the screen. If a handler sets the cursor to busy, the cursor doesn't change back to the arrow when the handler is finished. I've always had some problems with the pointer not changing to the bar in text fields, or remaining a text bar when clicking a button - but Tiger seems to have amplified the problem. Running these same stacks in Panther was never perfect - but definitely better (of course that was a 15 Ti PB, and maybe that is also a factor). Meanwhile, these stacks were originally created in HyperCard - and they still run fine in HC - in Panther or Tiger. If I am the only one with the problem, I'll investigate further; if it is a common problem I'll bugzilla it. Let me know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Moodle
Has anybody had any experience with Moodle, the course management system (http://moodle.org/). Can Rev stacks be integrated with it ? tnx, Bob... Robert J. Earp - Ashford Training Technologies 18059 21A Avenue, South Surrey, British Columbia, Canada. V3S 9V7 T:(604) 541 1662 Cel: (604) 612 6688 Fx: (604) 541 1686 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: French list
Marielle- Thursday, May 5, 2005, 8:03:39 AM, you wrote: ML it, I knew it, I have now a foreign accent when speaking my native language... ML g). LOL. I had the experience a few years ago returning from several months teaching in Portuguese in Mozambique and spending a few days on the return trip in Madrid. I was looking forward to being able to speak Spanish again, but the two languages were now hopelessly mingled in my mind. I tried to explain to the dona of the hotel why I was having trouble with pure Spanish and she said she could understand our mixed vocabulary, as she had grown up near the Portuguese border. When I tried to explain that we weren't really Portuguese, she insisted that we must be Brazilian. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Fr] [En] Re: French list
jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO it will make sense to post in french (or any other language) to the list only when there's a french (or any other language) of Transcript... (grin) Pas d'accord ! Que le langage soit en simili-anglais ne me gêne pas... C'est une sorte de beche-de-mer, quoi ;-) Un peu du Klingon, pas vraiment de la litterature ! Un code, quoi, comme un autre, un Basic, mais plus facile à comprendre !! Not agreed! In fact, I am NOT disturbed by the pseudo-english used in HyperTalk -- eeer in Transcript ;-) For me, it is a bichlamar, a Klingon, no litterature! Sort of a code, as basic, but easiest!! Actually, far from being a bad joke, this suggestion makes sense, since Xtalk has been designed to be as close as possible to natural english, therefore the effort made by non-english speakers to decypher a script is probably similar to the effort of understanding posts on the list... Pas d'accord non plus !! Je trouve qu'on sait facilement relire un script, meme celui de quelqu'un d'autre -- c'est tout l'interet de HyperTalk -- pardon, Transcript ! Si on a du mal à lire, c'est que le script est complexe : quand c'est mon propre script, avec des boucles imbriquées, je dois parfois prendre une feuille de papier, et me faire un organigramme à la Basic quand il s'agit d'un script que je n'ai pas touche depuis plusieurs mois (sans oublier le cas où je me demande pour quelle j'ai bien pu programmer de cette façon ;-) Quant à s'exprimer et à s'expliquer avec des nuances c'est nettement plus facile dans sa langue maternelle -- et encore plus quand il s'agit de l'explication de quelqu'un d'autre ;-)) Not agreed, also!! It is easy to re-read a script, even another's person script. If it is NOT easy, it's because of the script itself --for instance with nested loops. I have sometimes to take a sheet of paper, and write down a flowchart a la Basic, especially when it is a months old piece of script (and I wonder how I could write such a thing as that ;-) As for explain myself with subtleties, it is easier to do that in my mother tongue -- and moreover if it is another's person explanation ;-)) -- Bilingual Revolutionario ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cursor issues in Tiger
I also noticed that the cursor is getting stuck with the wrong ones. Dennis On May 5, 2005, at 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: After installing Tiger (17 Al PB, 1 gig) the pointer seems to stick. It doesn't change mode when moving to different parts of the screen. If a handler sets the cursor to busy, the cursor doesn't change back to the arrow when the handler is finished. I've always had some problems with the pointer not changing to the bar in text fields, or remaining a text bar when clicking a button - but Tiger seems to have amplified the problem. Running these same stacks in Panther was never perfect - but definitely better (of course that was a 15 Ti PB, and maybe that is also a factor). Meanwhile, these stacks were originally created in HyperCard - and they still run fine in HC - in Panther or Tiger. If I am the only one with the problem, I'll investigate further; if it is a common problem I'll bugzilla it. Let me know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FineTune searching
Mark Neat, Mark...Filter is not among the words of my_frontThoughts! It's starting to percolate up to the top of mine. I've been randomly going back over some of my old scripts and refactoring them to use filter() for speed. Houston... We have a small glitch. This breaks as it picks up non-whole word chunks... * [snip] case 1 -- EXACT filter pSrcString withpStr# What's the regex for SPACE? put (pSrcString is not empty) into blnReturn break [snip] ** Since my own regex is at 'cut n paste' level only, any hints would be welcome! /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: ArchiveSearch 1.61
All- Loaded with fives today. Today, 05-05-05, is my birthday and I'm turning 55. My first birthday present to you all is a new version of my ArchiveSearch plugin, just uploaded to RevOnline under mwieder. RevOnline is accessible from rev 2.5 and up and from DreamCard, but I also placed a copy in http://www.ahsoftware.net/files/ArchiveSearch.rev. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: ArchiveSearch 1.61
Hi Mark, All- Loaded with fives today. Today, 05-05-05, is my birthday and I'm turning 55. Really? Hard to believe :-D Heartfelt congratulations!!! My first birthday present to you all is a new version of my ArchiveSearch plugin, just uploaded to RevOnline under mwieder. RevOnline is accessible from rev 2.5 and up and from DreamCard, but I also placed a copy in http://www.ahsoftware.net/files/ArchiveSearch.rev. And thanks a lot for this wonderful and very helpful stack! -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
selecting from a list with aid of keyboard
Well, here's a start: (script of list thelist) on keydown whichkey if whichkey is not in abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz then exit mousedown repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines in cd fld thelist if the first char of line x of cd fld thelist = whichkey then select line x of cd fld thelist exit repeat end if end repeat pass keydown end keydown ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cursor issues in Tiger
Dennis, Thanks for the quick reply. Which OS? Which computer? Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Dennis Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:41:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Cursor issues in Tiger I also noticed that the cursor is getting stuck with the wrong ones. Dennis On May 5, 2005, at 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: After installing Tiger (17 Al PB, 1 gig) the pointer seems to stick. It doesn't change mode when moving to different parts of the screen. If a handler sets the cursor to busy, the cursor doesn't change back to the arrow when the handler is finished. I've always had some problems with the pointer not changing to the bar in text fields, or remaining a text bar when clicking a button - but Tiger seems to have amplified the problem. Running these same stacks in Panther was never perfect - but definitely better (of course that was a 15 Ti PB, and maybe that is also a factor). Meanwhile, these stacks were originally created in HyperCard - and they still run fine in HC - in Panther or Tiger. If I am the only one with the problem, I'll investigate further; if it is a common problem I'll bugzilla it. Let me know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cursor issues in Tiger
OS X Tiger, G5 Dennis On May 5, 2005, at 1:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis, Thanks for the quick reply. Which OS? Which computer? Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Dennis Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:41:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Cursor issues in Tiger I also noticed that the cursor is getting stuck with the wrong ones. Dennis On May 5, 2005, at 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: After installing Tiger (17 Al PB, 1 gig) the pointer seems to stick. It doesn't change mode when moving to different parts of the screen. If a handler sets the cursor to busy, the cursor doesn't change back to the arrow when the handler is finished. I've always had some problems with the pointer not changing to the bar in text fields, or remaining a text bar when clicking a button - but Tiger seems to have amplified the problem. Running these same stacks in Panther was never perfect - but definitely better (of course that was a 15 Ti PB, and maybe that is also a factor). Meanwhile, these stacks were originally created in HyperCard - and they still run fine in HC - in Panther or Tiger. If I am the only one with the problem, I'll investigate further; if it is a common problem I'll bugzilla it. Let me know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
On May 5, 2005, at 6:27 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello and good morning, Does anyone know if Unicode supports regular characters like I am typing now? I always thought that Unicode was for double bit characters. But in a discussion someone asked if it also supported regular single bit characters as well and I realized that i wasn't sure. Yes it does. It just uses NULL for the 2nd byte I believe. See the uniEncode entry in the Transcript Dictionary. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: FineTune searching
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 17:20 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: FineTune searching Hugh- Thursday, May 5, 2005, 12:58:10 AM, you wrote: Fac Neat, Mark...Filter is not among the words of my_frontThoughts! It's starting to percolate up to the top of mine. I've been randomly going back over some of my old scripts and refactoring them to use filter() for speed. And I've entered bug #2805 to expand the regex handling of the filter command. good idea!!! Interested in a scripting searching script with RR object-scaled refinenment? I haven't tested it since XOS in hypercard but it was a workhorse to find any script-handler any time. I could add the xos.rev download but im not sure i'd be giving away my environment too prematurely for beginners. It's a bit stimming in size... 105KBs, script lines... is a bit over-load... The other thing was that most editors dont retain the last 100 greps you did or have a tedious mechanism to make templates. What i did in XOS long ago was to make an object-class template-ebook (like the xos documentation stack) out of the different greps for XOS, html, etc and for either the grep external i used then or BBEdit via applescripts. And so it was really easy to reuse them in a wrapper regardless of which grep engine or editor you used. Food for thought! cheers Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: To Rev or not to Rev
Marielle, with the GNU tools bin programs and cigwin tools, you can already do so via shell or launch. There's a zillion text manipulation tools out there. But so far Rev is quite fast even for intricate parsing. Never fast enough tough ;) But a bridge would be welcome to avoid shell calls when they are really necessary. Over the years, i've added quite a few filter types into TAOO to do lots of cleanups, conversions, translations and it's definitely easier in xtalk than any other langage. As soon as i publish the text manager of TAOO, you'll understand. But there's plenty of other resources out there that have these text utilities... Which reminds me i need to rebuild the catalog of calls, handlers, defaults and functions available in TAOO - another nice parsing browser! ;) cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 15:16 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: To Rev or not to Rev Marielle Lange wrote: I had been poundering on that question before... why not merge Revolution with Awk? Awk/Gawk is very small (200KB) and is the best program I know to rapidly handle text (with rapid processing of string-indexed arrays of huge size and fully fledge regular expression syntax). Revolution is the best program I know to rapidly handle interface design and internet protocols. I'll bet that would work quite well as an external -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and Photoshop
Klaus Major wrote: Hi Alex, Sivakatirswami wrote: ... I actually stopped work on that library, and switched to using a set of tools and utilities via shell. The ones I use are at http://home.arcor.de/ahuggel/exiv2/ and reportedly work (or can easily be made to work) on Mac ( as well as Win and Linux which is what is directly supported). What I do is use them to bulk-extract the info I want from a directory at a time, then process those separate files in Rev, and then use the tools to re-insert the data. I do however agree - having the metadata as part of the file is the right way to do it (until we get metadata aware file systems which will ensure that the metadata goes everywhere the file goes). I use this extract-modify-reinsert as a purely transient state, I try not to leave significant data in the additional files for any length of time, thanks for the URL, very interesting... But maybe you can give me a hint (or two :-) When i use the ugly dosbox it works fine, if i put everything in my homefolder - C:\Documents and Settings\klaus But when i try the same command in Rev with: put shell(exiv2 test.jpg) i get an error and the result is not empty (but also not the wanted info ;-)... How can i put the returned values into a field in Rev and how can i define WHERE the app exiv2.exe and my image are located on my hd within shell? Know what i mean? Thank you very much in advance! Well, Klaus, first I have to confess that what I *actually* do is just run the exiv2 utility from an ugly dosbox (actually, a clean, sparse, elegant Emacs shell buffer :-), then run my Rev script, then run the utility again . (I do this once a month - wasn't worth the coding time to build it into a script) But it can be done from Rev and shell ... I'm not an expert in this, so there may be easier ways than this put shell(exiv2 test.jpg) I think a shell is run in the current defaultFolder of Rev - is that set to your home folder ? Here's a script I have used; note I ran into trouble with quoting of file names containing spaces - I eventually figured out that I needed to quote the command name, and I cheated and moved the files into a folder with no spaces in its name, so the answer I give when I run this is something like D:\Downloads\aaa I can't find a form that works when my photo folder is say D:\Our Documents\exiv2-0.6.1-win\aaa on mouseUp answer folder Folder put it into thePlace set defaultFolder to thePlace put files() into tFiles filter tFiles with *.JPG repeat for each line fil in tFiles put shell(quote D:\Our Documents\exiv2-0.6.1-win\exiv2 quote thePlace \ fil) after msg end repeat end mouseUp -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: ArchiveSearch 1.61
Happy Birthday! Thanks for the Search. It looks really good. I will use it often. Dennis On May 5, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: All- Loaded with fives today. Today, 05-05-05, is my birthday and I'm turning 55. My first birthday present to you all is a new version of my ArchiveSearch plugin, just uploaded to RevOnline under mwieder. RevOnline is accessible from rev 2.5 and up and from DreamCard, but I also placed a copy in http://www.ahsoftware.net/files/ArchiveSearch.rev. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: selecting from a list with aid of keyboard
in the field's script you could use the following scripts anytime! These are TAOO's basic behavior templates in field objects. to handle line scrolling (or wrapping too) and first letter scrolling. to add a second letter scrolling i would add a time stamp where if there is a new key pressed in the next 1 or 2 seconds, you find the laststring, else you start from scratch. Also consider what column of your table fields is sorted to help jump to the right column... I cant give it all away yet but this should get you going! on rawkeydown which local hl,maxl put the hilitedline of me into hl put the number of lines in me into maxL switch which case 65362 if hl 1 then subtract 1 from hl else put maxL into hl set the hilitedline of me to hl mouseup break case 65364 if hl = maxL then add 1 to hl else put 1 into hl set the vscroll of me to 0 end if set the hilitedline of me to hl mouseup break case 65421 -- TAOO's custom editors -- works like renaming files in ie explorer or the finder -- in a list of items. Also works for menus. -- XOSAlignScrollingEditControl RenameField show fld RenameField get the hilitedtext of me delete char 1 to 2 of it delete char offset(tab,it) to -1 of it put it into fld renameField Select line 1 of fld renameField break default -- search typed text -- modify depending what your field contains that should be scrolled to get offset(crwhich,me) -- not optimized for huge lists but should work fine. set the hilitedline of me to (the number of lines in char 1 to it of me) pass rawkeydown end switch end rawkeydown -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Kaufman Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 17:23 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: selecting from a list with aid of keyboard I know that this issue was addressed sometime in the last couple of years, but I can't seem to locate it: When selecting a single line from a scrolling list (this being a Rev list, not the OS file selection box)it would be useful to enter 1-3 keys to have the field scroll to the entered letter, or letters. Could someone point me to the discussion of that subject? Thanks, Kurt ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: custom properties
Paul You can order my chapter on properties from the RunRev store for $5. I cover custom properties in some depth. On May 5, 2005, at 7:05 AM, Paul Salyers wrote: Dear Rev programmers, Can some 1 make a simple stack that will defind a variable and place it on a custom properties so other Rev programs can use this custom properties. I did a search and found nothing that I could understand. Thank you, Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contributions in languages other than English
On May 4, 2005, at 6:41 PM, Marielle Lange wrote: Imagine you are a non-native. How would you feel about publishing this on the revolution list? Would you dare put a post that consists in a babelfish translation on a Russian list (assuming you do not know a word of Russian)? As a native, what is your first impression (you know, the one that counts so much) of the writer of the babelfish post above? Actually, having lived in places where English is certainly not the only language and sometimes not the dominant language, I no longer fear muddling through as best I can. [Hawai`i, Mexico and, now, Wales] My experience is that the people on this list will go out of their way to help anyone - and especially those brave enough to post as best they can in English. Of course, the newcomer doesn't know this but hopefully will stay on the list long enough to realize everyone is here to help. It is not a question of politeness, but of self-restraint. Foreign speakers will usually refrain from contributing until they are confident enough about writing in English. This is true - hopefully, we're starting to change that. :) Politeness possibly rather recommends a babelfish link to be automatically added at the bottom of all posts, including the ones in English. ;-)... The wiki I use (http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/) does that, why not copy their script? Why not also use it on the revolution website? I like this idea. At least providing a babelfish link in the email is worthwhile. Ro PS Translating my writing into another language and back again is not fair! Many would claim I don't even write in English in the first place! ;) To translate this email into another language, please copy this and go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/ Ro Nagey ~ Evangelist ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~ http:// www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and Photoshop
Hi Laex, Klaus Major wrote: ... thanks for the URL, very interesting... ... Well, Klaus, first I have to confess that what I *actually* do is just run the exiv2 utility from an ugly dosbox (actually, a clean, sparse, elegant Emacs shell buffer :-), then run my Rev script, then run the utility again . (I do this once a month - wasn't worth the coding time to build it into a script) Aha :-) But it can be done from Rev and shell ... I'm not an expert in this, so there may be easier ways than this put shell(exiv2 test.jpg) I think a shell is run in the current defaultFolder of Rev - is that set to your home folder ? Here's a script I have used; note I ran into trouble with quoting of file names containing spaces - I eventually figured out that I needed to quote the command name, and I cheated and moved the files into a folder with no spaces in its name, so the answer I give when I run this is something like D:\Downloads\aaa I can't find a form that works when my photo folder is say D:\Our Documents \exiv2-0.6.1-win\aaa I played around a bit and remembered shortfilepath()!!! This is exactly what we need for doing shell. So i tested this script and it works nicely :-) I put everything into the Revfolder but will work with any path! ... put the folder into df put shortfilepath(df /exiv2.exe) into kom ## Does NOT work without .EXE!!!??? put shortfilepath(df /test1.jpg) into bild ## = image in german :-) get shell(kom -pt bild) into fld 1 ... Great :-) Do you have plans to port/compile this one to/for OS X? (He asked him innocently...;-) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and Photoshop
Ouch, sorry, Hi Laex, Hi ALEX, of course... :-) Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
Thanks, I must have missed that. Are there any sample stacks on using Unicode??? I am having a bit of trouble with fields in Unicode. Tom On May 5, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On May 5, 2005, at 6:27 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello and good morning, Does anyone know if Unicode supports regular characters like I am typing now? I always thought that Unicode was for double bit characters. But in a discussion someone asked if it also supported regular single bit characters as well and I realized that i wasn't sure. Yes it does. It just uses NULL for the 2nd byte I believe. See the uniEncode entry in the Transcript Dictionary. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
selecting from a list with aid of keyboard
Thanks, Mister X. I see how I can adapt your script. -Kurt ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
On May 5, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Thanks, I must have missed that. Are there any sample stacks on using Unicode??? I am having a bit of trouble with fields in Unicode. I'm not aware of any but do a search for Unicode in the Topics section of Help for a few pointers. You can also find some tips by searching the list at google for unicode: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com Even after that I have still spent a good amount of time trying to figure out Unicode issues. Just post the problem your having if you don't find the answer and maybe we can come up with something. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Fr] [En] Re: French list
Well, I don't want to sound pompous, but I'm convinced that the ideas, concepts ambitions behind the original design of Xtalk languages went far beyond the idea of being a kind of Klingon... It has much more to do with the way algorithms are understood memorized by newbies and other concepts in ergonomics... Oddly this thread might take us back to another discussion that pops up at times : the addition of syntactic elements from other languages (x+=1 for instance)... I've always been opposed to that kind of idea, not because I see it as an heresy nor because I'm a purist, but because I don't see any reason to add background noise or useless complexity to Xtalk structure... Some say that they're more used to x+=1 than add 1 to x, but that's kind of weird : they're so deeply influenced (sorry can't find a more suitable word) by their habits in coding in a specific language that they feel less confortable in a language that is much closer to natural english... To jump back to the original topic of this thread, I'd like to remind a good advice given by any teacher of foreign language : if you want to learn to speak english (or any foreign language), first think in english... In the same vein, I don't think it's a good idea to write a flow-chart a-la-Basic to understand an undocumented complex script... Better write some elegant well documented xtalk code from the beginning... IOW if you want to code in xtalk, first think in xtalk... That's why I wrote previously : it'll make sense to have french posts on this list when a french version of Transcript is available... But of course, I don't want to hinder anyone from posting in the language of his/her choice... I love cultural diversity ! JB jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO it will make sense to post in french (or any other language) to the list only when there's a french (or any other language) of Transcript... (grin) Pas d'accord ! Que le langage soit en simili-anglais ne me gêne pas... C'est une sorte de beche-de-mer, quoi ;-) Un peu du Klingon, pas vraiment de la litterature ! Un code, quoi, comme un autre, un Basic, mais plus facile à comprendre !! Not agreed! In fact, I am NOT disturbed by the pseudo-english used in HyperTalk -- eeer in Transcript ;-) For me, it is a bichlamar, a Klingon, no litterature! Sort of a code, as basic, but easiest!! Actually, far from being a bad joke, this suggestion makes sense, since Xtalk has been designed to be as close as possible to natural english, therefore the effort made by non-english speakers to decypher a script is probably similar to the effort of understanding posts on the list... Pas d'accord non plus !! Je trouve qu'on sait facilement relire un script, meme celui de quelqu'un d'autre -- c'est tout l'interet de HyperTalk -- pardon, Transcript ! Si on a du mal à lire, c'est que le script est complexe : quand c'est mon propre script, avec des boucles imbriquées, je dois parfois prendre une feuille de papier, et me faire un organigramme à la Basic quand il s'agit d'un script que je n'ai pas touche depuis plusieurs mois (sans oublier le cas où je me demande pour quelle j'ai bien pu programmer de cette façon ;-) Quant à s'exprimer et à s'expliquer avec des nuances c'est nettement plus facile dans sa langue maternelle -- et encore plus quand il s'agit de l'explication de quelqu'un d'autre ;-)) Not agreed, also!! It is easy to re-read a script, even another's person script. If it is NOT easy, it's because of the script itself --for instance with nested loops. I have sometimes to take a sheet of paper, and write down a flowchart a la Basic, especially when it is a months old piece of script (and I wonder how I could write such a thing as that ;-) As for explain myself with subtleties, it is easier to do that in my mother tongue -- and moreover if it is another's person explanation ;-)) -- Bilingual Revolutionario ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux/Unix folder paths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is no real firm standard as far as storing prefs on a *NIX-type system; different programs make up their own, and there are special places for certain graphical environments such as GNUstep. One simple way is to place a hidden file (start the name with a dot) in the user's home directory; use a hidden folder if you need multiple such files. On May 4, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Hello all you Linux/Unix gurus out there, I was hoping someone would be able to tell me a few things about where such systems put various types of files. Where so you store preferences? I see that the specialFolderPath() function is Windows Mac only, so how would I know where to store preferences on a Linux system? Where should an application be installed? And what if I want the application to be available to a particular user only e.g. on my Mac OS X system, I have /Applications for apps that everyone can use and /Users/sarah/Applications for apps that only I can use. The second is better if I need to write to the application folder as the user has write access to that folder even if not an admin user (at least I think that is correct). TIA, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeml07aqtWrR9cZoRAif6AKCB6FffQRY2wb30n6szI4gdRuw5dACfQiSm z1Lzx0EPRV7hl+qYyl+W6nk= =A0U9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
Trevor, Thanks for getting back to me. I have been reading the docs and also searching the list. So far I can't find what I need. I have fields with pasted text in them. The text is a mix of English characters and Asian ones. I want to put the text via script into another field but it changes the characters. Clue: When you manually enter text in a language that does not use the Roman alphabet, using the operating system's tools, Revolution automatically sets the textFont of the text you enter to the appropriate font for the language you have chosen. I assume this means from the clipboard via copy paste. I want to put mixed text via script into another field from a field that already has it. So far each thing I try screws up either the english or the asian. Tom On May 5, 2005, at 2:32 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On May 5, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Thanks, I must have missed that. Are there any sample stacks on using Unicode??? I am having a bit of trouble with fields in Unicode. I'm not aware of any but do a search for Unicode in the Topics section of Help for a few pointers. You can also find some tips by searching the list at google for unicode: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com Even after that I have still spent a good amount of time trying to figure out Unicode issues. Just post the problem your having if you don't find the answer and maybe we can come up with something. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
Hi Thomas, Trevor, Thanks for getting back to me. I have been reading the docs and also searching the list. So far I can't find what I need. I have fields with pasted text in them. The text is a mix of English characters and Asian ones. I want to put the text via script into another field but it changes the characters. Clue: When you manually enter text in a language that does not use the Roman alphabet, using the operating system's tools, Revolution automatically sets the textFont of the text you enter to the appropriate font for the language you have chosen. I assume this means from the clipboard via copy paste. I want to put mixed text via script into another field from a field that already has it. So far each thing I try screws up either the english or the asian. try: set the unicodetext of fld the empty one to the unicodetext of field the one with mixed text in it Hope that helps... Tom Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Icons for OSX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Icon Composer is part of Apple's Developer Tools, and is found in /Developer/Applications/Utilities. Another good program is Iconographer; you should be able to find that one easily using Google. On May 5, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Yves COPPE wrote: Le 05-mai-05, à 16:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm probably doing this backwards but I'm developing with 2.5 on a PC then building standalones for OSX PC (gives me a pleasant surprise when I first view on the mac) I'm stuck on creating OSX application icons. For Windows I'm using Articons and that works fine for the PC side but the icons are not recognised by Rev when I try to select them for OSX. I've read about Icon Composer but have no access to it (how do I get it?) What format are OSX icons? format : ICS I use the apple software : IconComposer very easy to use. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCems/7aqtWrR9cZoRAvDTAJ4hBGXsurzCQICyp0LZpRcX2JQi6ACeMVQH kgc/kz3qXhrAYt+ED7Pti0U= =XqwX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution Around The World
As a related development to our discussions, RunRev is going to create a Non-English Revolution resource section on our web site. It might appear as Revolution Around The World. Can you help us? If you own such a site can you send me the URL, the language it is written in, and a brief description of its contents? Thanks in advance, Ro To translate this email into another language, please copy this and go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/ Ro Nagey ~ Evangelist ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~ http:// www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
On May 5, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Thanks, I must have missed that. Are there any sample stacks on using Unicode??? I am having a bit of trouble with fields in Unicode. Tom, I spend some time on this topic on my Rev programming class. My notes are on the web, along with some links to example stacks. Go to http://revolution.byu.edu, click on Revolution by Topic, then scroll down to Revolution and Unicode. Of course, rather than clicking on the links to the stacks, you should download the link to disk or open them directly in Rev with go to stack URL in the message box. Hope you find it helpful. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
put into URL not putting
Would someone be so kind and please analyze the following script to tell me why it will only write the data to the Preferences file just once, and every time afterward it will not write anything? on setPref prefName,prefData put prefData into preferencesData[prefName] put the keys of preferencesData into theKeys repeat with x=1 to the number of lines in theKeys put line x of theKeys = preferencesData[(line x of theKeys)] cr after newData end repeat put newData into url (file:Preferences.dat) end setPref Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN:libTranslator 1.0
All- The second upload of the day is libTranslator, a library stack to provide real-time string translations from web services, such as they are. The API is documented in the stack - only a small number of functions are necessary. This is intended for low-traffic use, since it hands the translation work off to other services and it can end up generating a lot of network traffic. Also, machine translation is imperfect, as everyone knows. Still, this does generate a first-pass translation between nine different languages. Note that this is version 1.0 - this is a rewrite and expansion of the old WDSL library. It currently handles four different web translation services - all of them are active as of today, but web services seem to come and go with alarming frequency. In RevOnline in user space mwieder, or in http://www.ahsoftware.net/files/libTranslator.rev -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Cursor issues in Tiger
OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: Paul, good call! Chipp and i were just discussing the issue in another context. Not just OSX either... But as said Tiger amplifies it... The problem is that the bitmap cusors in Rev are definitely out of date. Beats me why - should be easy cross-platform code imoho. I wrote a scottzilla and/or bugzilla suggestion about it long ago. Second problem, to my dark-sided delight, is an other problem regarding how RunRev/MetaCard handles bitmaps color mappings (scott and bugzillaed too). This affect any DRP/TS/(VNC?) or lower than 24 bit display of stacks. Colors get mumbled. W2K3 is even worse... So now Tiger... I told Scott this would get bigger! Chipp pointed me to a link that kind of explained the problem. http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-January/012398.html to which i responded that this doesn't happen in OSX, explorer, or other applications. The problem in the matter as my Pc GURU colleague told me is that their color maps are not right and that's what i've been saying. This link kind of tells you why. Trying to set the transparency of a cursor was the issue that started this. from the revdoc we read You can also set the cursor property to the ID of an image. Custom cursor images must contain three colors: black, white, and a transparent color. what color is black or white or transparent? That's a bitmap image not color and it's not explained! Cross-platform note: To be used as a cursor on Mac OS systems, an image must be 16x16 pixels. To be used as a cursor on Unix or Windows systems, an image must be 16x16 or 32x32 pixels. This makes for a lot of suggestion bugzillas... ;) So far i resorted to making mickey mouse cursors in win-only ico format... But never bothered to finish since it wouldn't be cross platform. Not cool ;) cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 17:48 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Cursor issues in Tiger OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: After installing Tiger (17 Al PB, 1 gig) the pointer seems to stick. It doesn't change mode when moving to different parts of the screen. If a handler sets the cursor to busy, the cursor doesn't change back to the arrow when the handler is finished. I've always had some problems with the pointer not changing to the bar in text fields, or remaining a text bar when clicking a button - but Tiger seems to have amplified the problem. Running these same stacks in Panther was never perfect - but definitely better (of course that was a 15 Ti PB, and maybe that is also a factor). Meanwhile, these stacks were originally created in HyperCard - and they still run fine in HC - in Panther or Tiger. If I am the only one with the problem, I'll investigate further; if it is a common problem I'll bugzilla it. Let me know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RealBasic buys SQLabs
In toady's news- http://www.realsoftware.com/company/pressreleases/pr_sqlabs.html -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
On 5/5/05 1:55 PM, Devin Asay wrote: Go to http://revolution.byu.edu, click on Revolution by Topic, then scroll down to Revolution and Unicode. Whoa! There's our whole scripting conference, all done for us! Where have I been? How did this gem of a site get past me? How long have I been so ignorant? (That last was rhetorical. I don't want to know.) Devin, this is an amazing site. Now I have to figure out how to rope you into doing a conference for us. My brain has apparently been set to stun for a while. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revolution.byu.edu... :-)))
Incroable !!! Many thanks for doing this incredible course material available to all of us, Devin ! Sure that this will spped up the way new comers are going to go head with xtalks and Revolution. Best Regards, On 5/5/05 1:55 PM, Devin Asay wrote: Go to http://revolution.byu.edu, click on Revolution by Topic, then scroll down to Revolution and Unicode. Whoa! There's our whole scripting conference, all done for us! Where have I been? How did this gem of a site get past me? How long have I been so ignorant? (That last was rhetorical. I don't want to know.) Devin, this is an amazing site. Now I have to figure out how to rope you into doing a conference for us. My brain has apparently been set to stun for a while. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Contributions in languages other than English
Ro, since you're the evangelist... I'll hijack the thread for a ride... TAOO has a one button interface translator for any GUI. One preference button! Effort to translate not provided naturally but it's no more than changing the name, tooltip and content of the controls in the gui after choosing it's language. Drop-dead simple and reliable. I also have an auto-translator coming with a multilanguage matrix that could help in templated-behaviors-cultural-aware multimedia answer dialogs and controls that TAOO is going to sport soon. This gets more complicated again when i add speech and speech recog but im confident the underlying logic will support it. Im working on a replacement answer/ask/file dialog set to handle this still but im sure many are interested. Braile and blind devices can be supported in RunRev? Touchscreens? new feature in TAOO thanks to this thread and Ro: an auto-translator control for content based on BabelFish - who i'll have to contact before releasing to get some agreement if they allow free translation... Personally, it's a 3 minute job in deepcyberspace.rev which will be easily later integrated into the view manager and thus the view menu. Ah, a light bulb just came up in the menu manager cellar that prevents my making it come true... Hungry for more Food for thought? http://monsieurx.com/taoo or http://monsieurx.com/forums or this mailist if im not too intruding with TAOO (im never too sure i can push more of it!) But since it's free for non-commercial benefit, it's my script/code/theory knowledgebase encyclopedia to many horizontal and vertical uses in/for RunRev... And it's free (a tip of the iceberg only so far but growing by the day rolling snowball style...) And multi-language is a natural skill im proud to exploit for all it's worth including in RunRev and not just for the gui, the shell, the php/html/sql editing but also soon to command python to your bidding! Exploit intelligence ;) I think i might have opengl graphics on RR in less than one year if RR doesnt bring them out before in 3.0 - my next challenge via python meta-dll thing i found! This could include a python dll-compileit style library as soon as it's possible - the lack of a dll bridge is very limiting in some windows ways. For Macs, i can write a metrowerks interface any time but im out totally out of funds so... sorry, i couldn't help you unless a script-mac-head joins the taoo team to implement it. Shouldn't take more than one hour. Most of it is applescript based. The GUI is based on a Macro-wrapper XOS e-book template style stack that auto-compileit and script you feed it (batch lists included) that i used to use with CompileIt ;) Ro, you've always been my hero. Although im a bit perplexed at your role as an evangelists instead of a coder extraordinaire in Rev's hands. Some business language i didn't understand... Although I know all about changes of professional horizons... cheers Xavier http://MonsieurX.com - the revolutionary's scripting warehouse and performance tuning garage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ro Nagey Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 20:18 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Contributions in languages other than English On May 4, 2005, at 6:41 PM, Marielle Lange wrote: Imagine you are a non-native. How would you feel about publishing this on the revolution list? Would you dare put a post that consists in a babelfish translation on a Russian list (assuming you do not know a word of Russian)? As a native, what is your first impression (you know, the one that counts so much) of the writer of the babelfish post above? Actually, having lived in places where English is certainly not the only language and sometimes not the dominant language, I no longer fear muddling through as best I can. [Hawai`i, Mexico and, now, Wales] My experience is that the people on this list will go out of their way to help anyone - and especially those brave enough to post as best they can in English. Of course, the newcomer doesn't know this but hopefully will stay on the list long enough to realize everyone is here to help. It is not a question of politeness, but of self-restraint. Foreign speakers will usually refrain from contributing until they are confident enough about writing in English. This is true - hopefully, we're starting to change that. :) Politeness possibly rather recommends a babelfish link to be automatically added at the bottom of all posts, including the ones in English. ;-)... The wiki I use (http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/) does that, why not copy their script? Why not also use it on the revolution website? I like this idea. At least providing a babelfish link in the email is worthwhile. Ro PS Translating my writing into another language and back again is not fair! Many would claim I don't even write in
Re: Quick Demo stack for creating Transpanrecy effect.
JB, Thanks, after modifying it so that I could compare apples to apples, I came up with the following function. It tests to between 7-8 times as fast as the original, which is substantial. I'm pretty sure the overhead is in the binaryEncode function, which you only do 4 times, while I call it once for each pixel. Thanks for your help! For those interested, in the messagebox type: go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altMakeTrans.rev; best, Chipp function altMakeTransAlpha pTransColor,pImgData,pAlphaData -- pTransColor IS THE COLOR TO MAKE TRANSPARENT -- EX. 255,255,255 IS WHITE -- pImgData IS THE IMAGEDATA FROM WHICH THE MASK IS CREATED -- pAlphaData IS THE ALPHADATA OF THE ORIGINAL IMAGE -- RETURNS THE ALPHADATA TO USE FOR TRANS MASK put binaryEncode(C,0) into t0RGB put t0RGB into tAlphaTrans put binaryEncode(C,item 1 of pTransColor) after t0RGB put binaryEncode(C,item 2 of pTransColor) after t0RGB put binaryEncode(C,item 3 of pTransColor) after t0RGB put 0 into tPos repeat forever put offset(t0RGB,pImgData,tPos) into t if t=0 then exit repeat else add t+3 to tPos put tAlphaTrans into char tPos/4 of pAlphaData end if end repeat return pAlphaData end altMakeTransAlpha ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RealBasic buys SQLabs
SQLabs provides a SQLite connector for RealBasic similar to Altuit's altSQLite connector for Revolution. Of course, SQLabs sold the connector as an extra, and it looks like RealBasic will probably include it in one of it's product offerings. SQLabs also created a server app based on SQLite with some record-locking scheme. Not sure that's a good way to go, as SQLite was never meant to be a multiuser database to begin with. It's best used as a single-user db. -Chipp Walters Mark Wieder wrote: In toady's news- http://www.realsoftware.com/company/pressreleases/pr_sqlabs.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: selecting from a list with aid of keyboard
On 5/5/05 10:22 AM, Kurt Kaufman wrote: I know that this issue was addressed sometime in the last couple of years, but I can't seem to locate it: When selecting a single line from a scrolling list (this being a Rev list, not the OS file selection box)it would be useful to enter 1-3 keys to have the field scroll to the entered letter, or letters. Could someone point me to the discussion of that subject? Here's mine (watch for line wrap): local lOldTicks,lUserKeys on keyDown whichKey -- select from keyboard -- J. Landman Gay, 1990, modified for Revolution: 2003 if (the selectedField is not ) or (charToNum(whichKey) is among the items of 28,29,30,31) -- arrow keys then pass keyDown if the ticks - lOldTicks 60 then put into lUserKeys put whichKey after lUserKeys put return fld 1 return into tListText get lineoffset(crlUserKeys,tListText) if it 0 then set the hilitedlines of fld 1 to it put the ticks into lOldTicks end keyDown This allows you to type more than just the first character of a line to hone in on an exact line match. If the user pauses for more than a second (60 ticks,) then the collected keystrokes are abandoned and the search starts over. You can adjust the timing by changing the 60 to something else. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cursor issues in Tiger
Paul, I too have seen this, but not only in Tiger, but Panther and even WinXP. The cursor just seems to get stuck after leaving an editable text fld. I think Jerry Daniels has a bug report on this. My fix is to 'start using stack altCursorLib' The lastest version of altCursorLib can be found in the SQLite Demo stack at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altSQLiteCover/default.htm or you can just type in the message box: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altsqlite/SQLiteDemo.rev; While you're there, you might want to spend 5 minutes and do a walk-thru of the demo (though it's not tested yet on Tiger). best, Chipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: After installing Tiger (17 Al PB, 1 gig) the pointer seems to stick. It doesn't change mode when moving to different parts of the screen. If a handler sets the cursor to busy, the cursor doesn't change back to the arrow when the handler is finished. I've always had some problems with the pointer not changing to the bar in text fields, or remaining a text bar when clicking a button - but Tiger seems to have amplified the problem. Running these same stacks in Panther was never perfect - but definitely better (of course that was a 15 Ti PB, and maybe that is also a factor). Meanwhile, these stacks were originally created in HyperCard - and they still run fine in HC - in Panther or Tiger. If I am the only one with the problem, I'll investigate further; if it is a common problem I'll bugzilla it. Let me know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revolution.byu.edu... :-)))
At 21:08 05/05/2005, you wrote: OK I don't normally reply with only a top-post, however I only have one thing to say. WOW-MAGIC-STUNNING-BOOKMARKED-HOW DID I MISS THIS BEFORE- OK I've said enough. David 10/10 for this. All the best Bob Incroable !!! Many thanks for doing this incredible course material available to all of us, Devin ! Sure that this will spped up the way new comers are going to go head with xtalks and Revolution. Best Regards, On 5/5/05 1:55 PM, Devin Asay wrote: Go to http://revolution.byu.edu, click on Revolution by Topic, then scroll down to Revolution and Unicode. Whoa! There's our whole scripting conference, all done for us! Where have I been? How did this gem of a site get past me? How long have I been so ignorant? (That last was rhetorical. I don't want to know.) Devin, this is an amazing site. Now I have to figure out how to rope you into doing a conference for us. My brain has apparently been set to stun for a while. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: put into URL not putting
Has the hard disk containing the file spun down at the time of the second 'put'? That's one thing that will prevent a write/put. If that's the case, you can force the HD to start spinning again by getting 'the files' or 'the detailed files'. Then you can write successfully. Insert the following code immediately after the 'put' line. It might yield a clue: get the result if it empty then answer it end if HTH - Phil Davis Derek Bump wrote: Would someone be so kind and please analyze the following script to tell me why it will only write the data to the Preferences file just once, and every time afterward it will not write anything? on setPref prefName,prefData put prefData into preferencesData[prefName] put the keys of preferencesData into theKeys repeat with x=1 to the number of lines in theKeys put line x of theKeys = preferencesData[(line x of theKeys)] cr after newData end repeat put newData into url (file:Preferences.dat) end setPref Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Tiger problems...
Those of you hot to trot to grab Tiger, may want to wait a bit... Couple of things. It turns out Tiger isn't quite as bug free as everyone thought. They've redone the WebKit (yet again;-( ) and altBrowser will NOT work 100% correctly now. We're working on an update which will fix this. Also, altSQLite has yet to be tested fully on Tiger. Tiger is shipping with a 'just released' compiler, which by all reports has it's own issues as well. Also, the new compiler won't compile apps for OSX 2.8 and below w/out major headaches and lot's of test cycles. Of course Apple didn't tell us they would be obsoleting Jaguar so soon. Or if they did, I missed the message (sorry, Jan!) Also, I've found some Applescript isn't working correctly either, and need to do further testing to figure out why. And in other news.. = News and Views = 1. News: Apple Mega Patch Plugs 20 Mac OS X Holes Apple late Tuesday released an update to fix a whopping 20 security flaws in its flagship Mac OS X and warned that the most serious bugs could lead to remote code execution attacks. Find out how you could be at risk. http://ct.enews.eweek.com/rd/cts?d=186-1983-2-79-338225-224109-0-0-0-1 2. News: Tiger Bugs Break Networking Software Developers warn users to wait before upgrading to Apple's new operating system, saying bugs and changes in the kernel are causing incompatibilities with certain network software programs. http://ct.enews.eweek.com/rd/cts?d=186-1977-2-79-338225-223317-0-0-0-1 Mac OS X 'Tiger' http://ct.enews.eweek.com/rd/cts?d=186-1977-2-79-338225-223320-0-0-0-1 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RealBasic buys SQLabs
MW In toady's news- Er... make that today -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Manual...
Don Shafer's book is not a manual. OK - I'm talking only about Vol 1, but even when the other two are available it still won't be a Handbook as Danny Goodman's was for Hypercard. I've bought Vol 1, and I've found it useful, Don. But the omissions become more and more obvious as I develop a familiarity with Transcript, and the IDE. I really need a manual that defines the language, and gives hints, tips etc. The online documentation is good, in its class. But it's no substitute for a paper version. There surely must be one somewhere... Help! -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
floating text window
Hi All. In the rev ide, when you hover the mouse over a tool, a little text box pops up that tells you what it does. IE push button. How can I emulate this type of text popup in one of my stacks? Cheers Bob; Banished to the computer while Footballers wives is on. :-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
floating text window
Hi All. In the rev ide, when you hover the mouse over a tool, a little text box pops up that tells you what it does. IE push button. How can I emulate this type of text popup in one of my stacks? Cheers Bob; Banished to the computer while Footballers wives is on. :-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [Fr] [En] Re: French list
coming soon in TAOO... A multi-lingual script editor (with a line ruler even!) The old metacard script editor i made long ago is still light years ahead of RunRevs despite 2 years of dust. So im working on it on it again because i need a scripting boost again (with extensible language extensions present in taoo). Features: dictionaries, fully normal and working customizeable script-coloring, keyword or expression translations, auto-styling, java, c php, basic, javascript, flash code translations (or just editing), incredible variety of indexes for all script/code structures, flowcharts, keywords, filters, searches, really-smart auto-completion, pretype in-field (no extra commands), to name a few... Should be out in a month or two... The RevGM prevented any rev-release... Any ideas on self-testing scripts are welcome... I just thought of a gui-quality-manager/testing agent... First item in the list was - find the put statements or some common script errors... RevGM errors in stacks, breakpoints, etc... Im sure many could be interested by the concept... cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jbv Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 20:40 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [Fr] [En] Re: French list Well, I don't want to sound pompous, but I'm convinced that the ideas, concepts ambitions behind the original design of Xtalk languages went far beyond the idea of being a kind of Klingon... It has much more to do with the way algorithms are understood memorized by newbies and other concepts in ergonomics... Oddly this thread might take us back to another discussion that pops up at times : the addition of syntactic elements from other languages (x+=1 for instance)... I've always been opposed to that kind of idea, not because I see it as an heresy nor because I'm a purist, but because I don't see any reason to add background noise or useless complexity to Xtalk structure... Some say that they're more used to x+=1 than add 1 to x, but that's kind of weird : they're so deeply influenced (sorry can't find a more suitable word) by their habits in coding in a specific language that they feel less confortable in a language that is much closer to natural english... To jump back to the original topic of this thread, I'd like to remind a good advice given by any teacher of foreign language : if you want to learn to speak english (or any foreign language), first think in english... In the same vein, I don't think it's a good idea to write a flow-chart a-la-Basic to understand an undocumented complex script... Better write some elegant well documented xtalk code from the beginning... IOW if you want to code in xtalk, first think in xtalk... That's why I wrote previously : it'll make sense to have french posts on this list when a french version of Transcript is available... But of course, I don't want to hinder anyone from posting in the language of his/her choice... I love cultural diversity ! JB jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO it will make sense to post in french (or any other language) to the list only when there's a french (or any other language) of Transcript... (grin) Pas d'accord ! Que le langage soit en simili-anglais ne me gêne pas... C'est une sorte de beche-de-mer, quoi ;-) Un peu du Klingon, pas vraiment de la litterature ! Un code, quoi, comme un autre, un Basic, mais plus facile à comprendre !! Not agreed! In fact, I am NOT disturbed by the pseudo-english used in HyperTalk -- eeer in Transcript ;-) For me, it is a bichlamar, a Klingon, no litterature! Sort of a code, as basic, but easiest!! Actually, far from being a bad joke, this suggestion makes sense, since Xtalk has been designed to be as close as possible to natural english, therefore the effort made by non-english speakers to decypher a script is probably similar to the effort of understanding posts on the list... Pas d'accord non plus !! Je trouve qu'on sait facilement relire un script, meme celui de quelqu'un d'autre -- c'est tout l'interet de HyperTalk -- pardon, Transcript ! Si on a du mal à lire, c'est que le script est complexe : quand c'est mon propre script, avec des boucles imbriquées, je dois parfois prendre une feuille de papier, et me faire un organigramme à la Basic quand il s'agit d'un script que je n'ai pas touche depuis plusieurs mois (sans oublier le cas où je me demande pour quelle j'ai bien pu programmer de cette façon ;-) Quant à s'exprimer et à s'expliquer avec des nuances c'est nettement plus facile dans sa langue maternelle -- et encore plus quand il s'agit de l'explication de quelqu'un d'autre ;-)) Not agreed, also!! It is easy to re-read a script, even another's person script. If it is NOT easy, it's because of the script itself --for instance with
Re: Unicode
I did that and it turned my regular text into Unicode. Thanks though, Tom On May 5, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Thomas, Trevor, Thanks for getting back to me. I have been reading the docs and also searching the list. So far I can't find what I need. I have fields with pasted text in them. The text is a mix of English characters and Asian ones. I want to put the text via script into another field but it changes the characters. Clue: When you manually enter text in a language that does not use the Roman alphabet, using the operating system's tools, Revolution automatically sets the textFont of the text you enter to the appropriate font for the language you have chosen. I assume this means from the clipboard via copy paste. I want to put mixed text via script into another field from a field that already has it. So far each thing I try screws up either the english or the asian. try: set the unicodetext of fld the empty one to the unicodetext of field the one with mixed text in it Hope that helps... Tom Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: revolution.byu.edu... :-)))
Pierre, Devin, most amazed i am today! it's been an incredibly eye opening week... Marielle's wiki site, new database technology to investigate (/. recent link), the BYU Rev revolutionary teaching pages (would make a nice and easy stack to make too ;), Im glad the challenge/quality in application delivery standards bar is going up! The tutorials, along with Kenji's are incredibly well done and a good lesson i hope to practice and credit heretoforth in TAOO. Writing a documentation on an semantically abstract framework of virtual objects is just so woah opening sometimes it's takes me off the subject every 5 minutes with new features to implement and im over-over-over-loaded... A self-documentation faq-building-template stack is in order now, i had started with a stack building strategy designer agent but this is now different - more interesting in more than one way documentation including shall we say... cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierre Sahores Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 22:08 To: How to use Revolution Subject: revolution.byu.edu... :-))) Incroable !!! Many thanks for doing this incredible course material available to all of us, Devin ! Sure that this will spped up the way new comers are going to go head with xtalks and Revolution. Best Regards, On 5/5/05 1:55 PM, Devin Asay wrote: Go to http://revolution.byu.edu, click on Revolution by Topic, then scroll down to Revolution and Unicode. Whoa! There's our whole scripting conference, all done for us! Where have I been? How did this gem of a site get past me? How long have I been so ignorant? (That last was rhetorical. I don't want to know.) Devin, this is an amazing site. Now I have to figure out how to rope you into doing a conference for us. My brain has apparently been set to stun for a while. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: put into URL not putting
Phil Davis wrote: Has the hard disk containing the file spun down at the time of the second 'put'? That's one thing that will prevent a write/put. If that's the case, you can force the HD to start spinning again by getting 'the files' or 'the detailed files'. Then you can write successfully. I inserted a get the detailed files before the put command and it still didn't write the updated data. I also tried deleting the file first, but then the put command wouldn't even create a new file as opposed to the first time I run the script when it normally would. Insert the following code immediately after the 'put' line. It might yield a clue: get the result if it empty then answer it end if Each time the result was empty and nothing was written. I'm pulling my hair out trying to find a solution to this problem. I just don't understand why it would work the first time, then never again. But thanks Phil. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
Thank you so much, Within 1 minute of downloading your helpful stack file I figured out how to do it. Double unicodetext was needed at both ends to make it work. set the unicodetext of field Messages of card Messages of / stack Editor to the unicodetext of field gChangeMessages It now looks and seems to work great. Tom On May 5, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Devin Asay wrote: On May 5, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Thanks, I must have missed that. Are there any sample stacks on using Unicode??? I am having a bit of trouble with fields in Unicode. Tom, I spend some time on this topic on my Rev programming class. My notes are on the web, along with some links to example stacks. Go to http://revolution.byu.edu, click on Revolution by Topic, then scroll down to Revolution and Unicode. Of course, rather than clicking on the links to the stacks, you should download the link to disk or open them directly in Rev with go to stack URL in the message box. Hope you find it helpful. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: floating text window
Bob, It called a tool tip. Just enter the text you want into the tool tip field in the property inspector Dennis On May 5, 2005, at 4:48 PM, Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All. In the rev ide, when you hover the mouse over a tool, a little text box pops up that tells you what it does. IE push button. How can I emulate this type of text popup in one of my stacks? Cheers Bob; Banished to the computer while Footballers wives is on. :-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Moodle
Yes and no. it clearly looks like a phpnuke style php-cms. In RunRev TAOO is the only system i know capable of emulating such an environment right off. This is one of my goals (but im blocked by my isp sql wise. And im not sure my license will go that far. So i have a phpmyadmin translator and different tools to manage the sql... I still have to make a few translators to have that stack-integrated into TAOO but it will be automatic. There's a handy phpnuke or phpmyadmin export database for it. depends on what you need integrated... TAOO is a language integrating environment btw... cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com/taoo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Earp Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 17:51 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Moodle Has anybody had any experience with Moodle, the course management system (http://moodle.org/). Can Rev stacks be integrated with it ? tnx, Bob... Robert J. Earp - Ashford Training Technologies 18059 21A Avenue, South Surrey, British Columbia, Canada. V3S 9V7 T:(604) 541 1662 Cel: (604) 612 6688 Fx: (604) 541 1686 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: custom properties
At 01:04 PM 5/5/2005, you wrote: Paul You can order my chapter on properties from the RunRev store for $5. I cover custom properties in some depth. On May 5, 2005, at 7:05 AM, Paul Salyers wrote: Dear Rev programmers, Can some 1 make a simple stack that will defind a variable and place it on a custom properties so other Rev programs can use this custom properties. I did a search and found nothing that I could understand. Thank you, Dear Rev Programmer, Can anyone help me with this information? If I could have a simple stack I think I could figure out how to do it. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
Devin, Thank you so much for this. I now understand so much more than before. Thank you Thank you Thank you TOm On May 5, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Devin Asay wrote: On May 5, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Thanks, I must have missed that. Are there any sample stacks on using Unicode??? I am having a bit of trouble with fields in Unicode. Tom, I spend some time on this topic on my Rev programming class. My notes are on the web, along with some links to example stacks. Go to http://revolution.byu.edu, click on Revolution by Topic, then scroll down to Revolution and Unicode. Of course, rather than clicking on the links to the stacks, you should download the link to disk or open them directly in Rev with go to stack URL in the message box. Hope you find it helpful. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: put into URL not putting
One other thought... are the file's permissions set OK to allow rewrite? Or did something change since it was created? I know it's a long shot. Phil Derek Bump wrote: Phil Davis wrote: Has the hard disk containing the file spun down at the time of the second 'put'? That's one thing that will prevent a write/put. If that's the case, you can force the HD to start spinning again by getting 'the files' or 'the detailed files'. Then you can write successfully. I inserted a get the detailed files before the put command and it still didn't write the updated data. I also tried deleting the file first, but then the put command wouldn't even create a new file as opposed to the first time I run the script when it normally would. Insert the following code immediately after the 'put' line. It might yield a clue: get the result if it empty then answer it end if Each time the result was empty and nothing was written. I'm pulling my hair out trying to find a solution to this problem. I just don't understand why it would work the first time, then never again. But thanks Phil. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: put into URL not putting
On 5 May 2005, at 20:00, Derek Bump wrote: Would someone be so kind and please analyze the following script to tell me why it will only write the data to the Preferences file just once, and every time afterward it will not write anything? on setPref prefName,prefData put prefData into preferencesData[prefName] put the keys of preferencesData into theKeys repeat with x=1 to the number of lines in theKeys put line x of theKeys = preferencesData[(line x of theKeys)] cr after newData end repeat put newData into url (file:Preferences.dat) end setPref A couple of points. Is preferencesData declared as a global (or local) variable somewhere? (e.g. at the top of the script.) If not, the data won't persist and the array will only contain a single element (the one just added) when you get to the repeat loop? You should check the result after the Put ... into url line. This will tell you if an error occurred. Ex. put newData into url (file:Preferences.dat) if the result is not empty then answer the result end if Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cursor issues in Tiger
Xavier, Chipp, It seems that all of this is related to bug 885. So I added my votes to that one. Ken, I tried to add comments to this bug but got an error in Revzilla. Paul Looney -Original Message- From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:38:45 +0200 Subject: RE: Cursor issues in Tiger OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: Paul, good call! Chipp and i were just discussing the issue in another context. Not just OSX either... But as said Tiger amplifies it... The problem is that the bitmap cusors in Rev are definitely out of date. Beats me why - should be easy cross-platform code imoho. I wrote a scottzilla and/or bugzilla suggestion about it long ago. Second problem, to my dark-sided delight, is an other problem regarding how RunRev/MetaCard handles bitmaps color mappings (scott and bugzillaed too). This affect any DRP/TS/(VNC?) or lower than 24 bit display of stacks. Colors get mumbled. W2K3 is even worse... So now Tiger... I told Scott this would get bigger! Chipp pointed me to a link that kind of explained the problem. http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-January/012398.html to which i responded that this doesn't happen in OSX, explorer, or other applications. The problem in the matter as my Pc GURU colleague told me is that their color maps are not right and that's what i've been saying. This link kind of tells you why. Trying to set the transparency of a cursor was the issue that started this. from the revdoc we read You can also set the cursor property to the ID of an image. Custom cursor images must contain three colors: black, white, and a transparent color. what color is black or white or transparent? That's a bitmap image not color and it's not explained! Cross-platform note: To be used as a cursor on Mac OS systems, an image must be 16x16 pixels. To be used as a cursor on Unix or Windows systems, an image must be 16x16 or 32x32 pixels. This makes for a lot of suggestion bugzillas... ;) So far i resorted to making mickey mouse cursors in win-only ico format... But never bothered to finish since it wouldn't be cross platform. Not cool ;) cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 17:48 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Cursor issues in Tiger OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: After installing Tiger (17 Al PB, 1 gig) the pointer seems to stick. It doesn't change mode when moving to different parts of the screen. If a handler sets the cursor to busy, the cursor doesn't change back to the arrow when the handler is finished. I've always had some problems with the pointer not changing to the bar in text fields, or remaining a text bar when clicking a button - but Tiger seems to have amplified the problem. Running these same stacks in Panther was never perfect - but definitely better (of course that was a 15 Ti PB, and maybe that is also a factor). Meanwhile, these stacks were originally created in HyperCard - and they still run fine in HC - in Panther or Tiger. If I am the only one with the problem, I'll investigate further; if it is a common problem I'll bugzilla it. Let me know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Moodle
Robert J. Earp wrote: Has anybody had any experience with Moodle, the course management system (http://moodle.org/). Can Rev stacks be integrated with it ? To the degree that it adheres to the common courseware interoperability standards (SCORM, IMS, AICC), it should be relatively straightforward to make courseware in any tool to integrate with Moodle. Some portions of these standards are limited to in-browser delivery, so of course those are out of the loop for Rev (and most other authoring systems). But for anything delivered on CD-ROM over over networks to be run from its own executable beyond the browser, that's precisely the objective of these interoperability standards. Many years ago I build a pair of courses for a corporate client designed for compliance with AICC (a less popular CMS standard, and its decreasing relevance is welcome as it was odd for an interop standard to include so many Microsoft-specific elements). I made the courseware in ToolBook, and the CMS was made in VB. The data transfer mechanisms were file-based and simple in that spec, and because more recent specs like IMS make strong use of XML they are in many ways even simpler. I haven't used Moolde myself, and haven't needed to make CMS standards-compliant courseware in a long time. But the Moodle docs seem very extensive and they have an active support community, so hopefully it won't be hard to learn what's needed for integration. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revolution.byu.edu... :-)))
Xavier and All, Great peoples for a great development paradigm. It seems things are growing up in the best ways for all of us ! Kind Regards, Pierre Le 5 mai 05, à 23:01, MisterX a écrit : Pierre, Devin, most amazed i am today! it's been an incredibly eye opening week... Marielle's wiki site, new database technology to investigate (/. recent link), the BYU Rev revolutionary teaching pages (would make a nice and easy stack to make too ;), Im glad the challenge/quality in application delivery standards bar is going up! The tutorials, along with Kenji's are incredibly well done and a good lesson i hope to practice and credit heretoforth in TAOO. Writing a documentation on an semantically abstract framework of virtual objects is just so woah opening sometimes it's takes me off the subject every 5 minutes with new features to implement and im over-over-over-loaded... A self-documentation faq-building-template stack is in order now, i had started with a stack building strategy designer agent but this is now different - more interesting in more than one way documentation including shall we say... cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierre Sahores Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 22:08 To: How to use Revolution Subject: revolution.byu.edu... :-))) Incroable !!! Many thanks for doing this incredible course material available to all of us, Devin ! Sure that this will spped up the way new comers are going to go head with xtalks and Revolution. Best Regards, On 5/5/05 1:55 PM, Devin Asay wrote: Go to http://revolution.byu.edu, click on Revolution by Topic, then scroll down to Revolution and Unicode. Whoa! There's our whole scripting conference, all done for us! Where have I been? How did this gem of a site get past me? How long have I been so ignorant? (That last was rhetorical. I don't want to know.) Devin, this is an amazing site. Now I have to figure out how to rope you into doing a conference for us. My brain has apparently been set to stun for a while. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Broken link to gadgetplugins?
Chipp, I clicked on: http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altsqlite/SQLiteDemo.rev and it opened a page of code, probably not what you intended. Also, philosophically, one should not have to install a plugin to get proper cursor behavior. Rev. should fix this. Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:33:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Cursor issues in Tiger Paul, I too have seen this, but not only in Tiger, but Panther and even WinXP. The cursor just seems to get stuck after leaving an editable text fld. I think Jerry Daniels has a bug report on this. My fix is to 'start using stack altCursorLib' The lastest version of altCursorLib can be found in the SQLite Demo stack at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altSQLiteCover/default.htm or you can just type in the message box: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altsqlite/SQLiteDemo.rev While you're there, you might want to spend 5 minutes and do a walk-thru of the demo (though it's not tested yet on Tiger). best, Chipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS X users, Is anyone else having this problem: After installing Tiger (17 Al PB, 1 gig) the pointer seems to stick. It doesn't change mode when moving to different parts of the screen. If a handler sets the cursor to busy, the cursor doesn't change back to the arrow when the handler is finished. I've always had some problems with the pointer not changing to the bar in text fields, or remaining a text bar when clicking a button - but Tiger seems to have amplified the problem. Running these same stacks in Panther was never perfect - but definitely better (of course that was a 15 Ti PB, and maybe that is also a factor). Meanwhile, these stacks were originally created in HyperCard - and they still run fine in HC - in Panther or Tiger. If I am the only one with the problem, I'll investigate further; if it is a common problem I'll bugzilla it. Let me know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cursor issues in Tiger
On 5/5/05 4:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, I tried to add comments to this bug but got an error in Revzilla. Paul Looney Thanks, Paul... it seems that attempting to submit changes to any bug that is marked Linux/Unix in the OS will cause this error... I'll fix this and get a 2.01 version out... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
FW: Cursor issues in Tiger
Ken, I tried to add comments to this bug but got an error in Revzilla. Paul Looney Thanks, Paul... it seems that attempting to submit changes to any bug that is marked Linux/Unix in the OS will cause this error... I'll fix this and get a 2.01 version out... Actually it turns out that if the original bug is marked with an OS of Other, it changes to Linux\/Unix on the option menu when you go to submit comments on the bug... regardless, I'll get it fixed and reissue a new version. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
