Re: get URL returning empty string

2005-06-03 Thread Dave Cragg


On 2 Jun 2005, at 18:14, Alex Tweedly wrote:


Dave Beck wrote:



Thanks Chipp!!

But unfortunately putting the command in a repeat structure like that
doesn't seem to be helping. For some reason get URL returning  
empty is

quite consistent behavior on at least one customer's machine.

Might it help to use the load command instead? Are they  
implemented more
or less the same way internally? What about communicating through  
sockets?
Is that more reliable? (I am currently using a .php script to  
execute some

commands on the server and return a value.)




Not directly answering your question, but 

on the machines which fail, can you try accessing the Web page (php  
script) from a browser and verify that works.

I know you said



I know that the web page that I am
trying to load is NOT empty.


but I explicitly want to check for accessibility from the same  
machine on which it fails via Rev.


After doing what Alex suggests, you should probably use  
libUrlSetLogField to log the exchange between your app and the  
server. The odd thing is that the result is returning empty. This  
should only happen if the server sends a 200 response. If it is  
getting a 200 response, I'd want to see whether there is a Content- 
length header in the server's reponse, and if not, whether there is  
a Transfer-encoding header. If there is neither, libUrl will use a  
socketClosed message to determine the end of the data transfer. In  
this case, a premature close of the socket might produce what you are  
seeing. (When those headers are present, which is normal, a  
socketClosed message during a data transfer will produce an error in  
the result.)


This is the only thing that I can think of to explain what you are  
seeing, unless it's a bug in libUrl. In either case, getting the  
server's response would help.


Cheers
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Re: Property Table Type Doc Index for all entries

2005-06-03 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Dennis

The thing is under testing. After that i hope to spend yet some more 
time to 
compose a simpler documentation (which i already started)... Alas with
just two hands, a full-time job and so little time around it, it's hard to 
make
ends meet. Im doing my best and i noted your comment... I'll try to make 
it
yet simpler ;)

Devon looks like a nice copy of TAOO over a decade ago (but with nicer 
gui)...

Competition gives me hope - proves my data model is right ;)

I do already all they do and much more... 
Included multicolumn previews or editing, file browsing, agents, etc...

My however is open source - not macOSX only and all was written in rev 
with
no external's dependencies - fully portable anywhere. I also wrote my own
photo album and more. When TAOO comes out, their product might be
severly obsoleted ;)

cheers
Xavier

On 03/06/2005 00:23:19 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
Xavier,

Yes, I have visited your TAOO site several times.  It sounds
interesting, but it is beyond my simple understanding.  It sounds
like you are proposing something like DEVONthink Pro (which I use a
lot), but I am not really sure.  You propose to conquer the world of
information usability, but are having a hard time explaining it to
simple minds like mine.  I hope Dan can help you explain it in a way
so that I can understand how I could use it to solve my everyday
needs --which are modest.  I always have to turn complicated problems
into simple ones for me to solve.  This is all to magical and
mysterious for me --I need concrete examples I can relate to.

However, if you are saying that you have already created this simple
idea of mine for beginners (like me) to index into the documentation
in a way that I can learn the answers to my simple questions, without
taking away time from the good folks on this list answering the hard
questions, then please present your stack for all to benefit.  I
would certainly be grateful.

Dennis


On Jun 2, 2005, at 5:23 PM, MisterX wrote:



 Any other thoughts about the utility of this or other ideas?




 Dennis

 Yes, one thought. Please take no offense! Again, this is not a
 rant... Just
 another repeat of a message i've been trying to carry through out
 first the
 hypercard then the metacard and finally the RUnrev community.

 Because what you said is how TAOO will present information to you -
 actually
 how it has for over a decade... Autonaming, auto hiliting,
 autoformating,
 auto correcting, auto remembering my settings, etc... That's
 interesting in
 terms of work flow isn't it?

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Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread Kat
What about a Southeast RUG?  I'm in east central coast of Florida, but 
have a son in the Hotlanta area I wouldn't mind visiting now and then 
;-)  Anybody else from around here?


Cheers,
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Re: Kiosk mode

2005-06-03 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Sean,

Am 03.06.2005 um 02:21 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


backdrop


VERY minimalistic!

In a hurry? ;-)


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Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread revinfo1155
Yes-I'm in Atlanta and would definitely be interested in an Atlanta rev 
user group.


jack

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 What about a Southeast RUG? I'm in east central coast of Florida, but 
have a son in the Hotlanta area I wouldn't mind visiting now and then 
;-) Anybody else from around here? 

 
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RE: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread Jim Bufalini
I wouldn't mind hosting one here in Honolulu, Hawaii but I believe, except
for the occasional visitor, it would be a *group* of one...


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 Are there any Rev. User Groups in the USA and if so,
 is there a listing available?

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Re: possible bug

2005-06-03 Thread Jon

Here is a better URL for RevZilla:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/RevZilla.htm


Mark Wieder wrote:


Jon-

Thursday, June 2, 2005, 5:54:18 PM, you wrote:

J My failing to disable the Geometry when I wrote the on Resize handler
J is obviously a bug on my part.  My only question/comment is to ask 
J whether the Rev run-time system might have detected an attempt to 
J manually alter a value that was being maintained automatically, and flag

J a run-time error.  This would have eliminated much of the mystery, and
J all of the agony.

J Just a suggestion.

It's not a bad suggestion at that. I think that anything that brings
down the IDE should be classified as a bug. I tested your resize
handler earlier and with the included bugs it did indeed cause the IDE
to hang. I'd rather have this be an environment that encourages
experimentation, rather than punishing it. But I'm a bit at a loss as
to how this problem would be trapped. I'd suggest putting this into
Bugzilla with your sample script and letting the runrev folks deal
with it.

The problem, of course, as you've already surmised, is that the Damned
Programming Environment did exactly what you told it to do... just
can't trust computers these days.

If you're not already using Bugzilla, do it the easy way and pick up
RevZilla at http://www.sonsofthunder.com .

 


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RE: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread Ralph R. Forehand
Jim, Kat, Jack,

Thank You for your responses. They is exactly what I was hoping for. I'll keep 
compiling the info on existing RUGs and those interested in possibly forming 
local RUGs.

Since this is a grass roots start so we'll all need to be patient.

More Later and TAKE CARE,
Ralph
-
Jim wrote:

I wouldn't mind hosting one here in Honolulu, Hawaii but I believe, except
for the occasional visitor, it would be a *group* of one...


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  Are there any Rev. User Groups in the USA and if so,
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Re: progress bars

2005-06-03 Thread Jon

So, Klaus: do you play a Steinberger guitar?

:)

Jon
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Re: Another Question about a media player

2005-06-03 Thread Thomas McGrath III

Buddy, - is your name Dan? or Buddy?

Hi, welcome to the list!!!  You would be well served by going through 
the User Spaces in REV Online. I believe there are many sample stacks 
that you could learn from. There is one called PlayWavMCI that uses a 
different approach than Quicktime to play wav files that is very 
interesting although probably not what your looking for.
Also at the REV site is a link to users websites where you can find 
many wonderful websites of users on this list. I believe someone had a 
sample mp3 player on their site. There was a stack Playerstuff 1.0 that 
showed how to use a player in REV but I think was mostly movies.

I know I've seen an mp3 player with skins. I hope someone will help you.

Tom

On Jun 2, 2005, at 11:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you again so much for helping me before, but a new question has 
arose

in my mind x.x;;
Since I dragged the quicktime player into the stack, is there a way to 
change
the look of the buttons and maybe make the volume controls different 
than in

the quicktime look?
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player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread Jon
I am writing a complex media player application.  I decided to hide the 
Player entirely, and use my own buttons instead.  When I make the Player 
invisible, everything stops working, as if I had deleted the Player.  Is 
this what the rest of you would have expected?


:)

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Re: Property Table Type Doc Index for all entries

2005-06-03 Thread Thomas McGrath III

It's actually Tom, and thanks.

I will check out the docs and give some feedback later.

Tom

On Jun 3, 2005, at 1:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Ken,

I fixed it temporarily with a zipped file.

download directly from
http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=64

Something must have gone wrong with the upload...

thanks for the report

cheers
Xavier

On 03/06/2005 00:56:09 use-revolution-bounces wrote:

Stack is corrupted error trying to open in REV.



Tom

On Jun 2, 2005, at 5:23 PM, MisterX wrote:


So here's an example of a typical TAOO ebook that's actually the
taoo documentation:
http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=166




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Re: OT fine musical instruments. WAS progress bars

2005-06-03 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Jon,


So, Klaus: do you play a Steinberger guitar?


Mon dieux, un connaisseur :-)

Although this headless design may have been invented by Mr. Ned  
Steinberger,
this is a 6-string frettless bass-guitar made by a german company  
called Clover.


Like the original it is made of carbon graphite*, which makes it  
almost indestructible

and gives it a very clean hi-fi sound.

And it now serves me VERY well for over 16 years :-)

My guitar, (don't have a photo unfortunately) is a Gibson L5 (a very  
fine and VERY
expensive hollowbody jazz guitar) replica from Aria, a japanese  
company, and

has a beautiful sunburst finish.

And that is almost 30 years old :-)


:)

Jon


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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Jon,

No, it's not a bug.
As a player is designed to play movies, then it stops when it is hidden.
It's a normal behaviour: there is nothing to watch :-)
So, instead of making your player invisible, let it visible but put  
it out of the card window area: set the bottomRight of player  
MyPlayer to -1,-1.
Note that you can put any object out of range of the user's action by  
placing it out of the card window without having to set its visible  
to false.

It's a very old handy trick :-)

Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

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I am writing a complex media player application.  I decided to hide  
the Player entirely, and use my own buttons instead.  When I make  
the Player invisible, everything stops working, as if I had deleted  
the Player.  Is this what the rest of you would have expected?




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Re: Property Table Type Doc Index for all entries

2005-06-03 Thread xbury . cs
i was answering Ken's message - must have replied to the wrong message - 
did i?

incredibly heavy week... sorry...

sorry for the confusion

On 03/06/2005 14:31:40 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
It's actually Tom, and thanks.

I will check out the docs and give some feedback later.

Tom

On Jun 3, 2005, at 1:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Ken,

 I fixed it temporarily with a zipped file.

 download directly from
 http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=64

 Something must have gone wrong with the upload...

 thanks for the report

 cheers
 Xavier

 On 03/06/2005 00:56:09 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
 Stack is corrupted error trying to open in REV.



 Tom

 On Jun 2, 2005, at 5:23 PM, MisterX wrote:

 So here's an example of a typical TAOO ebook that's actually the
 taoo documentation:
 http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=166



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Re: OT fine musical instruments. WAS progress bars

2005-06-03 Thread Jon

Klaus:

Check out these URLs.  I also have a GL

www.jonbondy.com/lacewood1.jpg - custom home-made lacewood guitar with 
graphite (Moses) neck, TransTrem, and Roland GK-2A pickup


www.jonbondy.com/lacewood2.jpg - custom home-made lacewood guitar with 
Moses neck, custom home-made hard tail bridge, and Ghost piezo pickups


End of guitar rant

:)

Jon


Klaus Major wrote:


Hi Jon,


So, Klaus: do you play a Steinberger guitar?



Mon dieux, un connaisseur :-)

Although this headless design may have been invented by Mr. Ned  
Steinberger,
this is a 6-string frettless bass-guitar made by a german company  
called Clover.


Like the original it is made of carbon graphite*, which makes it  
almost indestructible

and gives it a very clean hi-fi sound.

And it now serves me VERY well for over 16 years :-)

My guitar, (don't have a photo unfortunately) is a Gibson L5 (a very  
fine and VERY
expensive hollowbody jazz guitar) replica from Aria, a japanese  
company, and

has a beautiful sunburst finish.

And that is almost 30 years old :-)


:)

Jon



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Re: Property Table Type Doc Index for all entries

2005-06-03 Thread xbury . cs
i just shouldn't work today, i got it all upside down! ;)

It was you after all. Apologies Tom...

cheers
Xavier

On 03/06/2005 14:31:40 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
It's actually Tom, and thanks.

I will check out the docs and give some feedback later.

Tom

On Jun 3, 2005, at 1:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Ken,

 I fixed it temporarily with a zipped file.

 download directly from
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 Something must have gone wrong with the upload...

 thanks for the report

 cheers
 Xavier

 On 03/06/2005 00:56:09 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
 Stack is corrupted error trying to open in REV.



 Tom

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Re: Protecting Log In Info

2005-06-03 Thread Dave Cragg


On 3 Jun 2005, at 02:22, Sivakatirswami wrote:


set the uLogINs of this stack to fooNameUser,barPassword

scripts can later:

put item 1 of the uLogINs of this stack into tUser
put item 2 of the uLogINs of this stack into tPassword

put fld yourEssayOnWhatever into url (ftp:  tUser  :   
tPassword @somedomain.com/incoming/newEssay.txt)


This should work.. but the logIns are unavailable in any context  
without the passkey... correct?


With a copy of Rev, anyone can access the custom properties in a  
stack, even if the stack has the password set. So if someone  
guesses the login info is held in a custom property, it wouldn't  
take them long to find it.




.and this is about as secure as we can make if where the goal is to  
provide an FTP client to a third party that allows uploads to your  
server.


Where I've had to do this before, I had the the client app load the  
FTP credentials from a stack held on a web server. The stack was  
obtained through a CGI which authenticated the request. In this case,  
the client app itself also had a login system with ID and password,  
and these login credentials were used as part of the authentication  
process in the CGI.


It wasn't completely secure, but by keeping the credentials on the  
server instead of embedded in a local stack, it enabled changing the  
FTP user name and password at any time.


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Re: Kiosk mode

2005-06-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  backdrop
 VERY minimalistic!
 In a hurry? ;-)

no.. he just wanted to know what the command was ^_^


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[no subject]

2005-06-03 Thread Marielle Lange
 Any Game Theory adepts in the list?

In theory, yes... in practice too many other things to do :-.

Why not create an entry page on the education wiki, projects page
http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=RevolutionProjects.
It's easier to manage for us, educator... we contribute when we can find a week
where we can actually do some rev programming (wish could do it more often).

Is this: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Staticd1=tutorialsd2=dynProg of
interest to you? Dynamic programming, game-oriented

Thanks for the code, I was looking for a similar solution to another problem.

Marielle
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Re: Kiosk mode

2005-06-03 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Sean,


backdrop

VERY minimalistic!
In a hurry? ;-)


no.. he just wanted to know what the command was ^_^


LOL :-D

OK, but nevertheless... ;-)


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TAOO

2005-06-03 Thread Marielle Lange
Xavier,

I do like your ideas... Printed out the doc and other stuff. It made it in the
pile to read the details... coming closer and closer from the top of the pile
everyday. If we are both lucky, I may get back with questions before a month
time ;-).

Marielle

PS. Do some of you ever do some real work ;-) ??? The days I try to catch up, I
receive a new digest in my mailbox as soon I have finished reading the previous
one (copy/pasting the precious code, etc.)
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RE:

2005-06-03 Thread MisterX

  Any Game Theory adepts in the list?
 
 In theory, yes... in practice too many other things to do :-.

i know the feeling ;) 

 Why not create an entry page on the education wiki, projects 
 page 
 http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Revol
utionProjects.
 It's easier to manage for us, educator... we contribute when 
 we can find a week where we can actually do some rev 
 programming (wish could do it more often).

i'll give it a try later ;) I'll try to dig out my econ notes too ;)

 Is this: 
 http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Staticd1=tutorialsd2=dynP
rog of interest to you? Dynamic programming, game-oriented

Nice but in this case a semantical approach is quite a bit more
insidious shall we say ;)
 
 Thanks for the code, I was looking for a similar solution to 
 another problem.

That relates to
The tao you can describe is not the tao ;)
Meaning if it applies elsewhere, it's a better tao/way...

cheers
Xavier

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RE: TAOO

2005-06-03 Thread MisterX
Thanks Marielle,

I know there's a lot to understand in this new environment but 
i tried to put in my best to make it easy and not just for myself ;)

The problem there is that the TAOO approach is integral and involves
all partners at once if you look at it from top to bottom. The other
way around and you're swamped with the low level dictionary - too many
verbs and objects... ;)

Finding the compromise in an example is not easy but the TAOO documentation
is probably the simplest and most capable example i've made. But it's not
low-level equipped as the library... Just good enough for a smartter ebook

cheers
Xavier 

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 Xavier,
 
 I do like your ideas... Printed out the doc and other stuff. 
 It made it in the pile to read the details... coming closer 
 and closer from the top of the pile everyday. If we are both 
 lucky, I may get back with questions before a month time ;-).
 
 Marielle
 
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Re: TAOO

2005-06-03 Thread Bill
It's not the amount of work we do. It is the amount of sleep we get. Also
attending to ordinary activities (for example looking for a jar of peanut
butter) can cut into productivity as much as taking time out to sleep.


On 6/3/05 9:35 AM, Marielle Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Xavier,
 
 I do like your ideas... Printed out the doc and other stuff. It made it in the
 pile to read the details... coming closer and closer from the top of the
 pile
 everyday. If we are both lucky, I may get back with questions before a month
 time ;-).
 
 Marielle
 
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 receive a new digest in my mailbox as soon I have finished reading the
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mail client (OT)

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Sheffield
I know this is totally off-topic, but as I'm looking for a good mail  
client to read this user list, I thought I'd ask here.  So what's a  
good one?  I've been using Apple Mail, but the fact that it doesn't  
keep track of the message threads very well is really starting to  
annoy me.  So I'd like to play with something else.  Any suggestions?


Please excuse the off-topic-ness of this post :-)

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Alguien habla español?

2005-06-03 Thread Juan de Dios Garcia Diaz
Hola, 

 

Soy un usuario nuevo en Revolution y me parece una herramienta increíble, he
aprendido bastante leyendo la lista, pero ¿Habría alguien de la lista que
hablara español?. ¿Hay algún grupo en español? ¿Existe algo de documentación
en este idioma? Yo vivo en la isla de Cozumel, en México y quisiera saber si
mas personas en México u otro país latinoamericano están usando Revolution.

 

 

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Re: mail client (OT)

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Gaskin

Chris Sheffield wrote:
I know this is totally off-topic, but as I'm looking for a good mail  
client to read this user list, I thought I'd ask here.  So what's a  
good one?  I've been using Apple Mail, but the fact that it doesn't  
keep track of the message threads very well is really starting to  annoy 
me.  So I'd like to play with something else.  Any suggestions?


I love Thunderbird --  secure, flexible, standards-based, regularly 
updated, and free:


http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

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Question about connecting to the Internet

2005-06-03 Thread Stgoldberg
Perhaps someone can help with the following question: Is it possible for 
Revolution, after clicking on a word, to connect to the Internet (Google e.g.) 
and 
automatically paste in the word into Google's search field?   Connecting to 
the Internet is easy (RevGoUrl http://www.google.com;). And I can also direct 
Revolution to   copy the word first so that the user can then paste the word 
into Google's search field once the Google page is opened.   However, is it 
possible to do all this automatically, i.e. after clicking on the word, the 
user 
is taken directly to Google where the word is automatically pasted in?   
Thanks.   This forum has been very helpful.
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Re: Question about connecting to the Internet

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Steve,

It's quite easy:

revGoUrl http://www.google.com/search?q=;  urlEncode(tWord)

The process is very simple: you do it into your web browser and you  
build the right string in Rev.
You will use another strings a bit different depending on the  
engines :-)


Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 3 juin 05 à 17:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

Perhaps someone can help with the following question: Is it  
possible for
Revolution, after clicking on a word, to connect to the Internet  
(Google e.g.) and
automatically paste in the word into Google's search field?
Connecting to
the Internet is easy (RevGoUrl http://www.google.com;). And I can  
also direct
Revolution to   copy the word first so that the user can then paste  
the word
into Google's search field once the Google page is opened.
However, is it
possible to do all this automatically, i.e. after clicking on the  
word, the user

is taken directly to Google where the word is automatically pasted in?
Thanks.   This forum has been very helpful.
Steve Goldberg




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Re: mail client (OT)

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Sheffield
That's kind of what I was thinking of trying.  Do you know if  
Thunderbird will import all my account information from Mail (my  
messages too would be nice)?



On Jun 3, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Chris Sheffield wrote:

I know this is totally off-topic, but as I'm looking for a good  
mail  client to read this user list, I thought I'd ask here.  So  
what's a  good one?  I've been using Apple Mail, but the fact that  
it doesn't  keep track of the message threads very well is really  
starting to  annoy me.  So I'd like to play with something else.   
Any suggestions?




I love Thunderbird --  secure, flexible, standards-based, regularly  
updated, and free:


http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

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Re: possible bug

2005-06-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Jon-

Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:45:58 AM, you wrote:

J Here is a better URL for RevZilla:

J http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/RevZilla.htm

Sure, but if you go straight there you miss all the other cool stuff
on Ken's site. g

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Re: mail client (OT)

2005-06-03 Thread rev
Quoting Chris Sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I know this is totally off-topic, but as I'm looking for a good mail
 client to read this user list, I thought I'd ask here.  So what's a
 good one?  I've been using Apple Mail, but the fact that it doesn't
 keep track of the message threads very well is really starting to
 annoy me.  So I'd like to play with something else.  Any suggestions?

Yes Gemini mail.

I tried thunderbird and it is very good and free. It has toggle on threads so
mails can be threaded.

However, there are some limitations to thunderbird. When you toggle on the
thread you have them nicely grouped, however, when you then sort the threaded
mails it loses the thread action unless you rethread. When you consider the time
you spend on email, it is well worth paying for a client that will do exacctley
everything that you require.

Gemini is great for this and has been on RISC OS for years. It costs money, but
like all good things is money well spent.
You can trial it heren and see a screenshot

http://www.intellegit.com/software/gemini/

cheers
bob (no affiliation)

 Please excuse the off-topic-ness of this post :-)

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Re: OT fine musical instruments. WAS progress bars

2005-06-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Klaus-

Friday, June 3, 2005, 5:32:37 AM, you wrote:

KM this is a 6-string frettless bass-guitar made by a german company
KM called Clover.

I have a very hard time getting used to even *5*-string basses. The
additional freedom afforded by the extra string starts imprinting new
possibilities for playing lines in my head. Then when I switch to my
upright my brain gets stuck because I have to rethink those lines.
After borrowing a friend's 5-string for a gig a while back I made the
decision a long time ago to stop at four.

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Problem with saving standalone

2005-06-03 Thread Stgoldberg
I have a stack I'm working on, which when I want to save as a standalone (for 
either Mac or Windows) comes up with the   message There was an error saving 
the standalone application. I can't figure out why, since other stacks save 
easily as standalones.   I'm using Mac OS X (Panther).   There are about 135 
cards in the stack, with only one small graphic and scripting that isn't 
especially fancy.   Can anyone suggest what might be wrong and how I might go 
about 
correcting this?   Thanks very much.
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Re: mail client (OT)

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Gaskin

Chris Sheffield wrote:
 I know this is totally off-topic, but as I'm looking for a good
 mail  client to read this user list, I thought I'd ask here.  So
 what's a  good one?  I've been using Apple Mail, but the fact that
 it doesn't  keep track of the message threads very well is really
 starting to  annoy me.  So I'd like to play with something else.
 Any suggestions?

 I love Thunderbird --  secure, flexible, standards-based, regularly
 updated, and free:
 http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

 That's kind of what I was thinking of trying.  Do you know if
 Thunderbird will import all my account information from Mail (my
 messages too would be nice)?

Hard to say. After having been burned by Apple's email discontinuations 
in the past (iWorld and later the Emailer bundle) I don't trust them 
with anything as critical to me as email.  I need longevity more than I 
need pre-installation. :)


So without the benefit of having used Mail, I can only report what I 
hear:  older versions are said to have used the standard MDB format for 
the mail database, though this is said to have been abandoned with 
Tiger. So if you're still pre-Tiger it may work well, and there may also 
be AppleScripts and/or other solutions as well.


Given the number of Mac folks who use Thunderbird, I'd be surprised if 
their forum didn't turn up an instant solution.


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RE: Alguien habla español?

2005-06-03 Thread MisterX
Hola Juan

problema es que la lista esta en ingles compadre!
Tampoco vivo cerca pero siempre te podemos ayudar...

Y si hay mas sudamericanos! 

Has tratado la traduccion de Google o babelfish? 

Bienvenido y hasta pronto!
Xavier

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 Subject: Alguien habla español?
 
 Hola, 
 
  
 
 Soy un usuario nuevo en Revolution y me parece una 
 herramienta increíble, he aprendido bastante leyendo la 
 lista, pero ¿Habría alguien de la lista que hablara español?. 
 ¿Hay algún grupo en español? ¿Existe algo de documentación en 
 este idioma? Yo vivo en la isla de Cozumel, en México y 
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[ANN] Tutorials Picker 1.0

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi everyone,

Yesterday, I posted a press release preview about the new plugins I  
am releasing.

Today, everything is operational and is official :-)

Tutorials Picker 1.0 - Real time access to the So Smart Software  
tutorials - Freeware


Tutorials Picker interfaces with my website in order to display all  
available tutorials directly from the web.
By using it you are sure to always have access to the last updates  
and the new releases.
Tutorials Picker provides automatic notification of new releases,  
shows which tutorials you have already visited, which tutorials have  
been updated since your last visit, etc.

Broadband Internet recommended. English only.

Tutorials Picker 1.0 is available from http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
It's also available from Rev Online (user: So Smart Software) and  
will be available from RevNet in a few hours :-)
The How-To stacks are no longer available directly from Rev Online  
(and shortly from RevNet) but, for those who would absolutely  
download them (as dead files on their hard-drive :-), this can be  
done per unit from the new tutorials section of my website.


The tutorials already available deal with the following topics:

How to display and manage Answer Dialogs
How to display and manage Ask Dialogs
How to build and manage dynamic menus
How to manage tabbed buttons
How to manage user waiting time
How to drag and drop for files and folders
How to drag and drop images and different ways to store images
How to manage HTML lists on-the-fly
How to manage contextual tooltips on-the-fly
How to magnify images and only images
How to change card dimensions
How to install brushed metal appearance on all platforms
How to manage Snap to scrollbars
How to fix stack decorations (titlebar appearance)
How to ask for a password
How to use table fields

All are free,
Other are in the works...

Have a good week-end,
Best regards from Paris,

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[ANN] Report Picker 1.0

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi everyone,

Yesterday, I posted a press release preview about the new plugins I  
am releasing.

Today, everything is operational and is official :-)

Report Picker 1.0 - Programming archiving plugin for DreamCard/ 
Revolution - Freeware


Report Picker creates smart reports on your projects and keeps them  
in its library.
Contents specifications (scripts, global variables and properties,  
objects properties, custom properties, etc.)

Reports management, powerful search tool, export as text function, etc.
Bilingual help stack included. Identical appearance on all platforms.

Report Picker 1.0 is available from http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/

Have a good week-end,
Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

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[ANN] Windows Picker 1.0

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi everyone,

Yesterday, I posted a press release preview about the new plugins I  
am releasing.
Today, after the last changes *, everything is operational and is  
official :-)


Windows Picker 1.0 - On-screen windows management plugin for  
DreamCard/Revolution - Freeware


Windows Picker lets you dock any window and call it up on-screen  
again with a click.
Storage in 3 categories : stacks, scripts/property palettes and IDE  
tools.

Specification of colors, possible sound and visual effects.
Bilingual help stack included. Identical appearance on all platforms.

Report Picker 1.0 is only available from http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/

* I aplogize to Win users (Not Mac ones :-) who have already  
downloaded Windows Picker before receiving this mail: the software  
needed minor correction: they have been done.


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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/3/05 7:38 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Jon,

No, it's not a bug.
As a player is designed to play movies, then it stops when it is hidden.


Actually, I think this only happens on Windows. On Macs, hidden players 
continue to play. So it is maybe a sort-of, kind-of, partial bug. The 
workaround is easy though, and I usually just set the location of the 
player offscreen for all platforms.


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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Jacque,

As I do it usually, I verified with a QT movie before answering (Mac  
OS 10.4.1 - Rev build 77):


on mouseUp
  start player 1
  wait 1 second with messages
  hide player 1 -- then stops
end mouseUp

on mouseUp
  start player 1
  wait 1 second with messages
  set the botRight of player 1 to -1,-1 -- does not stop (of  
course and fortunately :-)

end mouseUp

Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 3 juin 05 à 18:13, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


On 6/3/05 7:38 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Jon,
No, it's not a bug.
As a player is designed to play movies, then it stops when it is  
hidden.




Actually, I think this only happens on Windows. On Macs, hidden  
players continue to play. So it is maybe a sort-of, kind-of,  
partial bug. The workaround is easy though, and I usually just set  
the location of the player offscreen for all platforms.



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Re: How do I script for the effect of menu item Reshape Graphic

2005-06-03 Thread Jim Hurley


Message: 13
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:13:01 -0700
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do I script for the effect of menu item Reshape
Graphic
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Jim Hurley wrote:

 Those are the markerPoints. They give the corners of the little shape
 used for the marker.


 Thanks Jeanne. That was very helpful.

 I see what my problem was. I was setting the MarkerDraw property to
 true, but  there were no marker points to be drawn until I had called
 Reshape Graphic from the Object menu.

 Apparently, if the marker points are empty, Reshape Graphic constructs a
 small 33 point closed, filled polygon to simulate a blackened circle.

 I would like to see how RR does this but I have forgotten how to peek at
 a RR menu script. Could you refresh my memory?


Marker points are a tease if what you're looking for is the equivalent
of SuperCard's editPoints property, as the engine's marker points can be
seen but do not respond to clicks.

You could dig into Rev scripts with devolution easily enough, but the
scripted implementation has some unusual aspects to its behavior.  Also,
for even someone as experienced as yourself, we find that it's not
straightforward to implement, esp. compared with SuperCard's one-liner.

It was a cool hack as a workaround before Rev owned the engine, but now
that they own it there's a request to raise the bar to implement the
behavior in the engine natively to allow us to build things on the order
of SuperCard's SampleDraw (or MacDraw or any basic drawing environment):

http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=624


If such drawing environments are of interest and you need to present
them in scrolling document windows, you may also be interested in:

http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=623

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Richard,

I'm afraid I've forgotten what little I had learned of SuperCard.

I did note that Kevin said during a recent programming conference 
that there are upgrades coming in Rev's graphics capabilities. 
Anxiously awaiting.


Along the lines of programmability of markerpoints, I would hope that 
if RR offers bezier graphics, that the handles are programmable, 
unlike the current marker points--or maybe they are, but I don't know 
how.


I have in mind applications in which the user is allowed to 
manipulate bezier handles to change the graphic shape *and* act upon 
the results. For example, the handles could be programmed to report 
the new area within the closed bezier polygon--easy to do. I am 
thinking in particular of my Manning Formula Calculator which needs 
the perimeter and area inside the bezier closed polygon in order to 
calculate flow rates in the canal.


Wish I could respond more intelligently to your comments about the 
engine's implantation of graphic reshaping. Even after a couple of 
years of use, I still find myself overwhelmed by RR's potential.


Watching the Fedder/Nadal tennis match as I write this. I feel about 
RR the way I would if I were on court against either of these two.


Don't understand how  Maria Sharapova's lost. She is s cute.

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sort question

2005-06-03 Thread revinfo1155
 Greetings,
 
 I need a field to sort numerically and when I try it I get the result below. I 
checked the docs and experimented with the numberformat without success. Help!
 
jack

 

1.101-
10.101- 
10.201-
10.301.1-
10.351-
10.401-
10.501-
11.101.1-
11.151- 
2.101-
2.301-
20.101-
3.101-
4.101- 
4.991-
5.101.1- 
5.151-
5.201-
5.301-
5.351.1-
5.401-
5.451-
5.501-
5.651-
5.701-
6.101.1-
6.201.1-
6.301-
6.401.1-
7.101-
7.151.1-
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7.251-
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8.101-
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Re: TAOO

2005-06-03 Thread Alex Tweedly

Marielle Lange wrote:


PS. Do some of you ever do some real work ;-) ??? The days I try to catch up, I
receive a new digest in my mailbox as soon I have finished reading the previous
one (copy/pasting the precious code, etc.
 


I tried digests once - found it much harder to keep up 
I find it easy to get the individual emails, filter them into a separate 
mailbox - and read them when I have time. And if I do want to reply to 
one, or to keep one for later use of the code, it's easier that way ...


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Question about connecting to the Internet

2005-06-03 Thread Stgoldberg
Thanks Eric!   This is a great convenience and should prove very useful to 
educators who want to enable their students to connect directly to Internet 
searches without intermediate steps.   This forum is great! 
Steve Goldberg

In a message dated 6/3/05 12:43:27 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:25:17 +0200
 From: Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Question about connecting to the Internet
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 It's quite easy:
 
 revGoUrl http://www.google.com/search?q=;  urlEncode(tWord)
 
 The process is very simple: you do it into your web browser and you 
 build the right string in Rev.
 You will use another strings a bit different depending on the 
 engines :-)
 
 Best regards from Paris,
 
 Eric Chatonet.
 
 Le 3 juin 05 à 17:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
  Perhaps someone can help with the following question: Is it 
  possible for
  Revolution, after clicking on a word, to connect to the Internet 
  (Google e.g.) and
  automatically paste in the word into Google's search field?   
  Connecting to
  the Internet is easy (RevGoUrl http://www.google.com;). And I can 
  also direct
  Revolution to   copy the word first so that the user can then paste 
  the word
  into Google's search field once the Google page is opened.   
  However, is it
  possible to do all this automatically, i.e. after clicking on the 
  word, the user
  is taken directly to Google where the word is automatically pasted in?
  Thanks.   This forum has been very helpful.
  Steve Goldberg
 

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Re: sort question

2005-06-03 Thread Wouter

Hi Jack,

You could do for example:

on mouseUp
  get field 1
  sort it
  set the itemdelimiter to .
  sort lines of it numeric ascending by item 1 of each
  put it into fld 2
end mouseUp

Greetings,
Wouter

On 03 Jun 2005, at 18:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Greetings,

 I need a field to sort numerically and when I try it I get the  
result below. I checked the docs and experimented with the  
numberformat without success. Help!


jack



1.101-
10.101-
10.201-
10.301.1-
10.351-
10.401-
10.501-
11.101.1-
11.151-
2.101-
2.301-
20.101-
3.101-
4.101-
4.991-
5.101.1-
5.151-
5.201-
5.301-
5.351.1-
5.401-
5.451-
5.501-
5.651-
5.701-
6.101.1-
6.201.1-
6.301-
6.401.1-
7.101-
7.151.1-
7.201.1-
7.251-
7.401-
7.501.1-
8.101-
8.301-
9.101.1-
9.351-
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RE: TAOO

2005-06-03 Thread MisterX

Digests should be banned IMOHO :)

With single emails you can easily see the thread, can you do that in digest?

Sort by author, date, etc... Can you find the next mail with that subject? 
You have to load of data to get through to find a small part. Replying is 
horrible if you dont take the time to clean up after... 

Are there maillist-digest aware email clients out there that i dont know
of?
Could be added to the TAOO email agent/client template... wouldn't be
hard...

but i haven't replaced outlook for rev... i'd rather not given the load...

cheers
Xavier

 

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 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 18:51
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 Subject: Re: TAOO
 
 Marielle Lange wrote:
 
 PS. Do some of you ever do some real work ;-) ??? The days I try to 
 catch up, I receive a new digest in my mailbox as soon I 
 have finished 
 reading the previous one (copy/pasting the precious code, etc.
   
 
 I tried digests once - found it much harder to keep up 
 I find it easy to get the individual emails, filter them into 
 a separate mailbox - and read them when I have time. And if I 
 do want to reply to one, or to keep one for later use of the 
 code, it's easier that way ...
 
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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/3/05 11:25 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:

 Hi Jacque,

 As I do it usually, I verified with a QT movie before answering (Mac  OS
 10.4.1 - Rev build 77):

Okay, I believe you. :)

I had a commercial app written in an older version of Revolution and the 
Mac player worked while hidden but the Windows player did not. So maybe 
they changed things to be more consistent now.


Or, maybe the Mac player worked because it was always hidden. I did not 
show it and hide it from a script. Or maybe it worked because I wasn't 
playing a QT movie, I was playing sound files in a player. I haven't had 
time to re-test this though.


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Re: Problem with saving standalone

2005-06-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/3/05 10:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a stack I'm working on, which when I want to save as a standalone (for 
either Mac or Windows) comes up with the   message There was an error saving 
the standalone application. I can't figure out why, since other stacks save 
easily as standalones. 


I've been collecting a list of possible causes. Check these things:

1. The path to the stack contains non-ASCII characters, such as 
diacritical marks or accent marks.  Avoid the use of accented or 
non-ASCII characters in path names.


2. The standalone builder is set to search for inclusions but the stack 
is password protected. Select the inclusions manually instead, or remove 
the password.


3. Alternately, the standalone builder may be having trouble searching 
for the required inclusions regardless of password protection. Turn off 
Search for required inclusions and turn on Select inclusions for the 
standalone application. Then choose the resources you need to include 
yourself in the Standalone Settings dialog.


4. The folder name is the same as your standalone's name. You need a 
unique folder name; make sure you select an empty folder with a name 
different from the standalone's name.  If you have previously built a 
standalone from the same stack, do not try to build a new one into the 
same folder. Trying to overwrite an existing standalone with a new one 
can casue problems. Rename or remove the old folder first, and then build.


5. Your source stack's file name does not use an extension, or uses an 
incorrect extension. Make sure your stack's file name ends with the 
extension .rev


6. Your source stack contains duplicate message box or ask or 
answer dialogs. Remove the embedded stacks and let the standalone 
builder add them instead. (This usually only occurs with stacks 
originally created in MetaCard.)


Make sure you have done Check for updates to be sure you have the most 
recent version of the standalone settings stack.





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clear fields

2005-06-03 Thread Bob Hartley
Hi All

I have a script that clears the contents of fields in cards.

on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
   put empty into fld x
end repeat
end mouseUp

Now this works ok except that the card has some labels and the script clears
the label contents. 

All the text fields are called field1, field2 etc

so I thought of doing this
on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x is field *
  then put empty into fld x
end repeat
end mouseUp

But I don't ge tthe fields clearing. I tried variations on the field  *
etc without any luck.

Any ideas

Cheers
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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Jacque,

I did not want to hurt you.
Sometimes, my bad english makes things seemingly a little bit hard...
And I found it when I read again my mail...
Do you want to excuse me?

On the other hand, I dug the question by testing if there was a  
difference when the file did not have any video track: that's should   
have shown how much the engine is precise :-)

Infortunately not.

Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 3 juin 05 à 19:17, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


On 6/3/05 11:25 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:

 Hi Jacque,

 As I do it usually, I verified with a QT movie before answering  
(Mac  OS

 10.4.1 - Rev build 77):

Okay, I believe you. :)

I had a commercial app written in an older version of Revolution  
and the Mac player worked while hidden but the Windows player did  
not. So maybe they changed things to be more consistent now.


Or, maybe the Mac player worked because it was always hidden. I did  
not show it and hide it from a script. Or maybe it worked because I  
wasn't playing a QT movie, I was playing sound files in a player. I  
haven't had time to re-test this though.



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Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread Jim Lyons
I am in Tallahassee, Florida and would travel to Atlanta, Jacksonville, 
Orlando, etc to attend a RevCon, and I would help support a regional 
group. Thanks.


Jim Lyons

On Jun 3, 2005, at 5:17 AM, Kat wrote:


What about a Southeast RUG?  I'm in east central coast of Florida, but
have a son in the Hotlanta area I wouldn't mind visiting now and then
;-)  Anybody else from around here?

Cheers,
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Re: clear fields

2005-06-03 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Bob,


Hi All

I have a script that clears the contents of fields in cards.

on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
   put empty into fld x
end repeat
end mouseUp

Now this works ok except that the card has some labels and the  
script clears

the label contents.

All the text fields are called field1, field2 etc

so I thought of doing this
on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x is field *
  then put empty into fld x
end repeat
end mouseUp

But I don't ge tthe fields clearing. I tried variations on the  
field  *

etc without any luck.


sorry, but *, if used as a wildcard, only works with filter and  
regex...



Any ideas


But you could use:

on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the short name of fld x CONTAINS field then
put empty into fld x
end if
  end repeat
end mouseUp

Hope that helps...


Cheers
Bob


Best

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Re: clear fields

2005-06-03 Thread Bob Hartley
You wrote:

 Hi All
 
 I have a script that clears the contents of fields in cards.
 
 on mouseUp
   repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
put empty into fld x
 end repeat end mouseUp
 
 Now this works ok except that the card has some labels and the script
 clears the label contents.
 
 All the text fields are called field1, field2 etc
 
 so I thought of doing this on mouseUp
   repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
 if the name of fld x is field *
   then put empty into fld x
 end repeat end mouseUp
 
 But I don't ge tthe fields clearing. I tried variations on the field  *

Then I thought that since the field is number x and the fields are field1,
field2 etc then 
on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x is field  x
   then put empty into fld x
end repeat 
end mouseUp

No luck there

bob

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Re: clear fields

2005-06-03 Thread Bob Hartley
You wrote:

 Hi Bob,
 
Hi Klaus

 But you could use:
 
 on mouseUp
repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
  if the short name of fld x CONTAINS field then
  put empty into fld x
  end if
end repeat
 end mouseUp
 
 Hope that helps...

Helps?? Absolutely brilliant the short name is one to remember. 

Thanks again.

Cheers
Bob
 
  Cheers Bob
 
 Best
 
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Re: sort question

2005-06-03 Thread Jim Ault
Greetings, jack

First point is that these are not numbers, so numeric has no meaning.
These are text strings and are sorted as such.
You also have some lines with trailing spaces.  You need to clean these up
some how to make the sorting work as you wish.

Try converting these strings to a number format by using a technique of
sorting 'each' line

This is a bit confusing when you first attempt it, but hang in there because
it is really a valuable tool.

1) syntaxsort lines of strList numeric by numberVersion(each)
each tells Rev to send each line to a function to be converted *before*
sorting

2) now the function that creates a number from the string (for each line of
the strList), and subsequently sorts that number list, giving back the
original strList in the new sort order based on the numbers.

on sortFldSource
  put fld source into tSource  --lines to sort
  sort lines of tSource numeric by numberConvert(each)
  put tSource into fld destination  --output for your review
end sortFldSource

function numberConvert pStrToConvert
  if pStrToConvert is  then
return 
  else 
set itemdel to  .
if the last char of pStrToConvert is - then
  put the last char of pStrToConvert into tSign
  delete the last char of pStrToConvert
end if
put item 1 of pStrToConvert into tIntPart
put item 2 of pStrToConvert into tDecPart1
if the number of items in pStrToConvert  2 then
  put item 3 of pStrToConvert into tDecPart2
else
  put  into tDecPart2
end if
put tSign  tIntPart  .  tDecPart1  tDecPart2 into tReply
return tReply
  end if
end numberConvert

Thanks to jeanne a. e. devoto for this (each) form of the sort lines of
command.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 6/3/05 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Greetings,
  
  I need a field to sort numerically and when I try it I get the result below.
 I checked the docs and experimented with the numberformat without success.
 Help!
  
 jack
 
  
 
 1.101-
 10.101- 
 10.201-
 10.301.1-
 10.351-
 10.401-
 10.501-
 11.101.1-
 11.151- 
 2.101-
 2.301-
 20.101-
 3.101-
 4.101- 
 4.991-
 5.101.1- 
 5.151-
 5.201-
 5.301-
 5.351.1-
 5.401-
 5.451-
 5.501-
 5.651-
 5.701-
 6.101.1-
 6.201.1-
 6.301-
 6.401.1-
 7.101-
 7.151.1-
 7.201.1-
 7.251-
 7.401-
 7.501.1-
 8.101-
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Re: clear fields

2005-06-03 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Bob,


You wrote:



Hi All

I have a script that clears the contents of fields in cards.

on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
   put empty into fld x
end repeat end mouseUp

Now this works ok except that the card has some labels and the script
clears the label contents.

All the text fields are called field1, field2 etc

so I thought of doing this on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x is field *
  then put empty into fld x
end repeat end mouseUp

But I don't ge tthe fields clearing. I tried variations on the  
field  *




Then I thought that since the field is number x and the fields are  
field1,

field2 etc then
on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x is field  x
   then put empty into fld x
end repeat
end mouseUp



sorry, i misunderstood you.

You need brackets :-)

on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x = (field  x) then
 put empty into fld x
end if
  end repeat
end mouseUp


No luck there


This will work, since the string will be evaluated first and without
the brackets the engine will only look for a field - field, but  
with the
brackets it will evaluate the string first to - field1 etc... in  
the loop.


Brackets are necessary most of the time when it comes to strings! :-)


bob


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Re: clear fields

2005-06-03 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Bob,

looks like i misunderstood that i misunderstood you :-D


Hi Bob,



You wrote:




Hi All

I have a script that clears the contents of fields in cards.

on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
   put empty into fld x
end repeat end mouseUp

Now this works ok except that the card has some labels and the  
script

clears the label contents.

All the text fields are called field1, field2 etc

so I thought of doing this on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x is field *
  then put empty into fld x
end repeat end mouseUp

But I don't ge tthe fields clearing. I tried variations on the  
field  *


Then I thought that since the field is number x and the fields are  
field1,

field2 etc then
on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x is field  x
   then put empty into fld x
end repeat
end mouseUp


sorry, i misunderstood you.


See above :-D


You need brackets :-)
on mouseUp
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
if the name of fld x = (field  x) then
 put empty into fld x
end if
  end repeat
end mouseUp

No luck there



This will work, since the string will be evaluated first and without
the brackets the engine will only look for a field - field, but  
with the
brackets it will evaluate the string first to - field1 etc... in  
the loop.


Brackets are necessary most of the time when it comes to strings! :-)



bob


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Re: clear fields

2005-06-03 Thread Jim Ault
On 6/3/05 11:02 AM, Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Then I thought that since the field is number x and the fields are field1,
 field2 etc then 
 on mouseUp
   repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
 if the name of fld x is field  x
then put empty into fld x
 end repeat 
 end mouseUp
 
 No luck there
 
 bob
 
You do not want the literal x, so use the following

if the name of fld x is (field  x)
--without the quotes and preferentially the parens

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RE: sort question

2005-06-03 Thread MisterX
set the itemdelimiter to .
sort lines of mylist numeric by item 2 of each
sort lines of mylist numeric by item 1 of each

or you decimal places will not be sorted right

but a simple

sort lines of mylist numeric by word 1 of each would sufice

;)

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ault
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 20:10
 To: How to use Revolution
 Subject: Re: sort question
 
 Greetings, jack
 
 First point is that these are not numbers, so numeric has no meaning.
 These are text strings and are sorted as such.
 You also have some lines with trailing spaces.  You need to 
 clean these up some how to make the sorting work as you wish.
 
 Try converting these strings to a number format by using a 
 technique of sorting 'each' line
 
 This is a bit confusing when you first attempt it, but hang 
 in there because it is really a valuable tool.
 
 1) syntaxsort lines of strList numeric by numberVersion(each)
 each tells Rev to send each line to a function to be 
 converted *before* sorting
 
 2) now the function that creates a number from the string 
 (for each line of the strList), and subsequently sorts that 
 number list, giving back the original strList in the new sort 
 order based on the numbers.
 
 on sortFldSource
   put fld source into tSource  --lines to sort
   sort lines of tSource numeric by numberConvert(each)
   put tSource into fld destination  --output for your 
 review end sortFldSource
 
 function numberConvert pStrToConvert
   if pStrToConvert is  then
 return 
   else 
 set itemdel to  .
 if the last char of pStrToConvert is - then
   put the last char of pStrToConvert into tSign
   delete the last char of pStrToConvert
 end if
 put item 1 of pStrToConvert into tIntPart
 put item 2 of pStrToConvert into tDecPart1
 if the number of items in pStrToConvert  2 then
   put item 3 of pStrToConvert into tDecPart2
 else
   put  into tDecPart2
 end if
 put tSign  tIntPart  .  tDecPart1  tDecPart2 into tReply
 return tReply
   end if
 end numberConvert
 
 Thanks to jeanne a. e. devoto for this (each) form of the 
 sort lines of
 command.
 
 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas
 
 On 6/3/05 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Greetings,
   
   I need a field to sort numerically and when I try it I get 
 the result below.
  I checked the docs and experimented with the numberformat 
 without success.
  Help!
   
  jack
  
   
  
  1.101-
  10.101-
  10.201-
  10.301.1-
  10.351-
  10.401-
  10.501-
  11.101.1-
  11.151-
  2.101-
  2.301-
  20.101-
  3.101-
  4.101-
  4.991-
  5.101.1-
  5.151-
  5.201-
  5.301-
  5.351.1-
  5.401-
  5.451-
  5.501-
  5.651-
  5.701-
  6.101.1-
  6.201.1-
  6.301-
  6.401.1-
  7.101-
  7.151.1-
  7.201.1-
  7.251-
  7.401-
  7.501.1-
  8.101-
  8.301-
  9.101.1-
  9.351-
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Managing Bookmarks in the Help Stack

2005-06-03 Thread Gregory Lypny

Hello Everyone,

	How do I manage bookmarks in Rev's help stack?  For example, how do I 
delete a bookmark or change the name of a bookmark category?


Regards,

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Thank You Eric! (was Re: [ANN] Windows Picker 1.0 and Re: [ANN] Report Picker and Re: [ANN] Tutorials Picker and ...)

2005-06-03 Thread Andre Garzia

Eric,

You're the man! Thank you so much for those tools! now along with 
altToolbar and Devolution, your tools occupy most part of my Rev IDE! 
:D


and they are becoming unvaluable additions, yesterday I was installing 
Rev on a spare win32 machine and without all those tools I felt a 
little dizzy (that's the sign of a good tool!)


thanks
andre



On Jun 3, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi everyone,

Yesterday, I posted a press release preview about the new plugins I am 
releasing.
Today, after the last changes *, everything is operational and is 
official :-)


Windows Picker 1.0 - On-screen windows management plugin for 
DreamCard/Revolution - Freeware


Windows Picker lets you dock any window and call it up on-screen 
again with a click.
Storage in 3 categories : stacks, scripts/property palettes and IDE 
tools.

Specification of colors, possible sound and visual effects.
Bilingual help stack included. Identical appearance on all platforms.

Report Picker 1.0 is only available from 
http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/


* I aplogize to Win users (Not Mac ones :-) who have already 
downloaded Windows Picker before receiving this mail: the software 
needed minor correction: they have been done.


Have a good week-end,
Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

So Smart Software

For institutions, companies and associations
Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc.
Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch

Plugins, tutorials and more on our website

Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62
Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86



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[FR,EN] No sound with the Player!

2005-06-03 Thread Dom
Aujourd'hui, j'ai passé une petite pile (Voices) à mon fils pour
écouter la prononciation d'une phrase anglaise...+

Sur sa machine, j'ai juste installé le Player... le problème est qu'il
n'y a pas de son !!!

Où est le bug ???


Today I passed along a small stack (Voices, you know ;-)) to my son
for hearing the english prononciation of a phrase.*

On its machine, I only installed the Player...the problem is, that there
is no sound!!!

Where is the bug???

* As a young french boy, he has a very distinct french accent ;-
+ I had to slow down the speech (revspeechspeed) but the the result is
not very convincing...

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Re: sort question

2005-06-03 Thread Ralph R. Forehand
Jack,

1. Open a new stack, place 2 scrolling fields and 1 button Modify_Sort on it

2. Copy (cut  paste) your data into fld 1 - must be 1 number/line

3. Copy the following script into your Midify_Sort button

on mouseUp  -- by Ralph forehand  06/03/05
  -- inset leading 0s into numers where needed
  put empty into card field 2
  repeat with i = 1 to number of lines in fld 1
put line i of fld 1 into myNumber
if char 2 of myNumber =. then 
put 0 myNumber into line i of fld 2
else
put myNumber into line i of fld 2
end if
  end repeat
  
  -- sort modified numbers
  sort cd fld 2
  
  -- Remove leading Zeros returning numbers to original form
  repeat with i = 1 to number of lines in fld 2
put line i of fld 2 into myNumber
if char 1 of myNumber = 0 then
  put char 2 to 12 of myNumber into line i of fld 2
else
  put myNumber into line i of fld 2
end if

  end repeat
end mouseUp

4. Button will put your numbers in the right order.

Trust the above helps and Good Luck,
Ralph

 Greetings,
 
 I need a field to sort numerically and when I try it I get the result below. 
 I checked the docs and experimented with the numberformat without success. 
 Help!
 
jack

 

1.101-
10.101- 
10.201-
10.301.1-
10.351-
10.401-
10.501-
11.101.1-
11.151- 
2.101-
2.301-
20.101-
3.101-
4.101- 
4.991-
5.101.1- 
5.151-
5.201-
5.301-
5.351.1-
5.401-
5.451-
5.501-
5.651-
5.701-
6.101.1-
6.201.1-
6.301-
6.401.1-
7.101-
7.151.1-
7.201.1-
7.251-
7.401-
7.501.1-
8.101-
8.301-
9.101.1-
9.351-
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Re: [FR,EN] No sound with the Player!

2005-06-03 Thread Malte Brill

Bonjour Dom,

c´est une problem avec la version 2.5 de le player. Faire une download 
de la version nouvelle peut etre...


No. I shouldn´t try that. my french is just too bad. :-)

There has been a problem with the first versions of the player and 
externals. If you download the most recent version it should work.


Regards,

Malte
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Re: clear fields

2005-06-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob-

Friday, June 3, 2005, 10:40:06 AM, you wrote:

BH All the text fields are called field1, field2 etc

I name all my label fields with a lbl prefix, so in your example:

lblField1, lblField2, etc

then:

BH on mouseUp
BH   repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds
  if char 1 to 3 of the name of fld x is not lbl then
BHput empty into fld x
  end if
BH end repeat
BH end mouseUp

...one of the joys of naming conventions...

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Re: [FR,EN] No sound with the Player!

2005-06-03 Thread Dom
Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There has been a problem with the first versions of the player and 
 externals. If you download the most recent version it should work.

Merci pour cette réponse répide, je vais essayer...
Thanks for this quick answer, I will try.
Viele Danken für diese schnelle antwort, Ich (?)

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Re: [FR,EN] No sound with the Player!

2005-06-03 Thread Klaus Major

Bon soir Dom,


Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



There has been a problem with the first versions of the player and
externals. If you download the most recent version it should work.



Merci pour cette réponse répide, je vais essayer...
Thanks for this quick answer, I will try.

Viele Dank für diese schnelle antwort, Ich (?)

Ich werde es versuchen :-)


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Best

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Problem with saving standalone

2005-06-03 Thread Stgoldberg
Thanks Jacqueline,
Your suggestion worked immediately and there was no difficulty saving the 
standalone as soon as I turned off Search for required inclusions and turned 
on 
Select inclusions for the standalone. I'm impressed with the great talent 
in the forum.   Thanks.
Steve Goldberg

In a message dated 6/3/05 2:31:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


 
 On 6/3/05 10:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have a stack I'm working on, which when I want to save as a standalone 
 (for
  either Mac or Windows) comes up with the   message There was an error 
 saving
  the standalone application. I can't figure out why, since other stacks 
 save
  easily as standalones.
 
 I've been collecting a list of possible causes. Check these things:
 
 1. The path to the stack contains non-ASCII characters, such as
 diacritical marks or accent marks.  Avoid the use of accented or
 non-ASCII characters in path names.
 
 2. The standalone builder is set to search for inclusions but the stack
 is password protected. Select the inclusions manually instead, or remove
 the password.
 
 3. Alternately, the standalone builder may be having trouble searching
 for the required inclusions regardless of password protection. Turn off
 Search for required inclusions and turn on Select inclusions for the
 standalone application. Then choose the resources you need to include
 yourself in the Standalone Settings dialog.
 
 4. The folder name is the same as your standalone's name. You need a
 unique folder name; make sure you select an empty folder with a name
 different from the standalone's name.  If you have previously built a
 standalone from the same stack, do not try to build a new one into the
 same folder. Trying to overwrite an existing standalone with a new one
 can casue problems. Rename or remove the old folder first, and then build.
 
 5. Your source stack's file name does not use an extension, or uses an
 incorrect extension. Make sure your stack's file name ends with the
 extension .rev
 
 6. Your source stack contains duplicate message box or ask or
 answer dialogs. Remove the embedded stacks and let the standalone
 builder add them instead. (This usually only occurs with stacks
 originally created in MetaCard.)
 
 Make sure you have done Check for updates to be sure you have the most
 recent version of the standalone settings stack.
 
 
 
 
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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/3/05 12:42 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:

 Hi Jacque,

 I did not want to hurt you.

Oh, not at all. No offense taken in the least.

 Sometimes, my bad english makes things seemingly a little bit hard...

Your English is excellent, and much better than my French. I don't know 
any French. :)


 And I found it when I read again my mail...
 Do you want to excuse me?

There is nothing to excuse. You haven't done anything wrong at all.


 On the other hand, I dug the question by testing if there was a
 difference when the file did not have any video track: that's should
 have shown how much the engine is precise :-)
 Infortunately not.

I just did a test too. I set a player to the filepath of an mp3 file and 
hid the player. In Revolution, starting the player shows it again! I 
couldn't make the player start and remain hidden.


Then I did the same thing in MetaCard. Here, I can keep the player 
hidden and it does play. These tests are all on Mac OS X.


So it looks like the difference is in the IDE. Rev does not allow me to 
start a hidden player. Possibly this is to prevent the Windows bug from 
occuring. MetaCard does play correctly with the player hidden.


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Re: Thank You Eric! (was Re: [ANN] Windows Picker 1.0 and Re: [ANN] Report Picker and Re: [ANN] Tutorials Picker and ...)

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Andre,

Many thanks.
When I see my website traffic, I may hope that my contributions are  
useful but nothing can replace a mail like yours!
A few hours ago, someone told on this list that south Americans  
brought luck in your life :-)

He was right!

Best wishes and regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 3 juin 05 à 20:30, Andre Garzia a écrit :


Eric,

You're the man! Thank you so much for those tools! now along  
with altToolbar and Devolution, your tools occupy most part of my  
Rev IDE! :D


and they are becoming unvaluable additions, yesterday I was  
installing Rev on a spare win32 machine and without all those tools  
I felt a little dizzy (that's the sign of a good tool!)


thanks
andre



So Smart Software

For institutions, companies and associations
Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc.
Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch

Plugins, tutorials and more on our website

Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62
Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86


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Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread Andre Garzia


On Jun 3, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Jim Lyons wrote:

I am in Tallahassee, Florida and would travel to Atlanta, 
Jacksonville, Orlando, etc to attend a RevCon, and I would help 
support a regional group. Thanks.


Jim Lyons


I am from Brazil and I am travelling to attend RevCon! :D would support 
regional group too but we don't have one here, yet.


Andre



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Re: possible bug

2005-06-03 Thread Jon
Perhaps when you go there.  When I go to your original URL, all I saw 
was a 404 URL not found error screen


:)


Mark Wieder wrote:


Jon-

Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:45:58 AM, you wrote:

J Here is a better URL for RevZilla:

J http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/RevZilla.htm

Sure, but if you go straight there you miss all the other cool stuff
on Ken's site. g

 


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Alternating Sizes of a Drawer and a Regular Window

2005-06-03 Thread Gregory Lypny

Hello Everyone

For reasons unknown to me, the following handler does not increase the 
height of the window to 538 when it is about to be displayed as a 
drawer.


Greg

drawer theStack

on preOpenStack
  if the mode of this stack is 13
  then
revChangeWindowSize 261,538
set the scrollbarWidth of fld Hit List to 12
  else
revChangeWindowSize 720,440
set the scrollbarWidth of fld Hit List to 16
set the loc of this stack to the screenLoc
  end if
  revUpdateGeometry
end preOpenStack

So I have to close it with the desired drawer size instead.

on closeStack
  lock screen
  revChangeWindowSize 261,538
  revUpdateGeometry
  save this stack
end closeStack

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1 button for mutliuses

2005-06-03 Thread Buddyb3ar22
I have a question, lets say you want only one button for a play and pause 
function, If a player was playing, the button would say Pause and when you 
pressed it, the button would pause the player and the word on it would change 
to 
Play, Vise versa 
Someone tried to explain this before, but I don't really get what they meant 
by what they said
Thanks, (You can call me buddy)
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Re: 1 button for mutliuses

2005-06-03 Thread Brian Yennie

Buddy,

In order to use the one button for multiple functions, you'll need to 
set some information about it.


For example, when the user hits play, change its name and its icon 
property.

It will still be the same button, just appear differently to the user.

Here are some pieces:

set the name of me to Play
set the name of me to Pause
set the icon of me to 1000 ## the ID of an image you want to use

on mouseUp
   if (the short name of me is Play) then
  ...
   else
  ...
   end if
end mouseUp

HTH,
Brian

I have a question, lets say you want only one button for a play and 
pause
function, If a player was playing, the button would say Pause and 
when you
pressed it, the button would pause the player and the word on it would 
change to

Play, Vise versa
Someone tried to explain this before, but I don't really get what they 
meant

by what they said
Thanks, (You can call me buddy)
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Re: 1 button for mutliuses

2005-06-03 Thread Buddyb3ar22
So does that mean I would have to insert all of this code into the Script 
part? 
And for the ID, what would an example look like x.x like on the C:/ Drive or 
something like that.. I'm sorry, I'm just kinda confused
---
 
set the name of me to Play
set the name of me to Pause
set the icon of me to 1000 ## the ID of an image you want to use

on mouseUp
if (the short name of me is Play) then
...
else
...
end if
end mouseUp
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Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread Dennis Brown
I am in Asheville, NC --which is in the same basic neighborhood, but  
much prettier and cooler than Hotlanta ;-)

I could get interested if it were not too far from here.

Dennis

On Jun 3, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Ray Bennett wrote:


I'm in Pennsylvania.

I have 2 others working with me and could rationalize a road trip -  
either driving a day (so, Hotlanta's about the limit - that's 11  
hours) or flying somewhere for which it's possible to get good  
flight deals.



On Friday, June 03, 2005, at 01:56PM, Jim Lyons  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I am in Tallahassee, Florida and would travel to Atlanta,  
Jacksonville,

Orlando, etc to attend a RevCon, and I would help support a regional
group. Thanks.

Jim Lyons

On Jun 3, 2005, at 5:17 AM, Kat wrote:


What about a Southeast RUG?  I'm in east central coast of  
Florida, but
have a son in the Hotlanta area I wouldn't mind visiting now and  
then

;-)  Anybody else from around here?

Cheers,
Kat



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Re: possible bug

2005-06-03 Thread Ken Ray

 Perhaps when you go there.  When I go to your original URL, all I saw
 was a 404 URL not found error screen

No you're right... Mark provided: http://www.sonsofthunder.com, and
unfortunately my domain is 'sonsothunder' not 'sonsofthunder' (I've been
trying to get that domain for 5 years!), so perhaps you should go to:

  http://www.sonsothunder.com/

to see all the goodies...

:-)

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

P.S. You can also use the longer: http://www.sonsofthundersoftware.com/.


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Keyboard Layout under Windows 98

2005-06-03 Thread tim

Hi everyone,

This is my first post here. I bought Rev Studio a few weeks ago and I have 
really
enjoyed working with it, and reading about how to from this list, which has
helped me a great deal!

I have a question, though, that I haven't been able to find an answer for yet.

 I am using Windows 98 Japanese OS. When I open Rev, the text input mode
automatically switches to a US English keyboard layout. Even if I go
into the keyboards control panel and delete this layout, when I open
Rev, it just comes back, almost as if Rev is creating it.

This means that the punctuation characters do not display as typed. For example,
on my
keyboard  is shift-6, but I have to type shift-7 to get it in Rev. Almost all
the other punctuation characters on the right of the keyboard have the same 
problem.

What I need to work out is why Rev isn't using the default keyboard
layout and input method editor. I have other English software on this
machine, and all of it honors the keyboard layout setting provided by
the OS. (in fact, I am typing this now in an English version of
Firefox, and there are no problems.)

Although I personally can live with this
problem, I want to distribute my software to people using Japanese
systems - and then it becomes a much bigger issue for me. They will
expect that when they type a bracket, or apostrophe, or ampersand,
then that's what they get! 

Any fix / workaround gratefully appreciated! 


Regards,


Timothy Due


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Re: sort question

2005-06-03 Thread Wouter


On 03 Jun 2005, at 20:09, Jim Ault wrote:


Greetings, jack


snip



on sortFldSource
  put fld source into tSource  --lines to sort
  sort lines of tSource numeric by numberConvert(each)
  put tSource into fld destination  --output for your review
end sortFldSource

function numberConvert pStrToConvert
  if pStrToConvert is  then
return 
  else
set itemdel to  .
if the last char of pStrToConvert is - then
  put the last char of pStrToConvert into tSign
  delete the last char of pStrToConvert
end if
put item 1 of pStrToConvert into tIntPart
put item 2 of pStrToConvert into tDecPart1
if the number of items in pStrToConvert  2 then
  put item 3 of pStrToConvert into tDecPart2
else
  put  into tDecPart2
end if
put tSign  tIntPart  .  tDecPart1  tDecPart2 into tReply
return tReply
  end if
end numberConvert

Thanks to jeanne a. e. devoto for this (each) form of the sort  
lines of

command.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 6/3/05 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Jim,

I don't know on your computer but on my mac this handler gives the  
following result for Jack's list:


10.101-
11.151-
4.101-
5.101.1-
20.101-
11.101.1-
10.501-
10.401-
10.351-
10.301.1-
10.201-
9.351-
9.101.1-
8.301-
8.101-
7.501.1-
7.401-
7.251-
7.201.1-
7.151.1-
7.101-
6.401.1-
6.301-
6.201.1-
6.101.1-
5.701-
5.651-
5.501-
5.451-
5.401-
5.351.1-
5.301-
5.201-
5.151-
4.991-
3.101-
2.301-
2.101-
1.101-

To make it more universal (no matter leading or trailing - and +) one  
could change it to:


on mouseUp
  get field 1
  put numsort(it,ascending) into fld 2
end mouseUp

function numSort pList,pDirection
  set the itemdelimiter to .
  repeat for each line i in pList
put i into x
if char -1 of word 1 of i is in -+ then put char -1 of word 1  
of i  char 1 to -2 of word 1 of i into x
if the num of items in x  2 then put item 1 to 2 of x  item 3  
of x into x

put i into numArray[x]
  end repeat
  put the keys of numArray into y
  if pDirection = ascending then sort lines of y numeric ascending
  else sort lines of y numeric descending
  repeat for each line i in y
put numArray[i]  cr after tList
  end repeat
  return tList
end numSort

Greetings,
Wouter
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Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread Thomas McGrath III

I'm in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania.

and a beautiful city it is

Tom

On Jun 3, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Ray Bennett wrote:


I'm in Pennsylvania.

I have 2 others working with me and could rationalize a road trip - 
either driving a day (so, Hotlanta's about the limit - that's 11 
hours) or flying somewhere for which it's possible to get good flight 
deals.



On Friday, June 03, 2005, at 01:56PM, Jim Lyons 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am in Tallahassee, Florida and would travel to Atlanta, 
Jacksonville,

Orlando, etc to attend a RevCon, and I would help support a regional
group. Thanks.

Jim Lyons

On Jun 3, 2005, at 5:17 AM, Kat wrote:

What about a Southeast RUG?  I'm in east central coast of Florida, 
but

have a son in the Hotlanta area I wouldn't mind visiting now and then
;-)  Anybody else from around here?

Cheers,
Kat


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SCS
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Pittsburgh, PA 15234
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Re: 1 button for mutliuses

2005-06-03 Thread Thomas McGrath III

Hey Buddy,

Make a button and name it Play without the quotes then put this 
script into it:


on mouseUp
if (the short name of me is Play) then
set the name of me to Pause
-- pause script for player goes here
--play stop audioClip Trust No One -- or pause
else
set the name of me to Play
-- play script for player goes here
--play audioClip Trust No One
end if
end mouseUp

Tom

On Jun 3, 2005, at 8:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So does that mean I would have to insert all of this code into the 
Script

part?
And for the ID, what would an example look like x.x like on the C:/ 
Drive or

something like that.. I'm sorry, I'm just kinda confused
---

set the name of me to Play
set the name of me to Pause
set the icon of me to 1000 ## the ID of an image you want to use

on mouseUp
if (the short name of me is Play) then
...
else
...
end if
end mouseUp
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Re: possible bug

2005-06-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Ken-

Friday, June 3, 2005, 6:05:45 PM, you wrote:

KR No you're right... Mark provided:
KR http://www.sonsofthunder.com, and
KR unfortunately my domain is 'sonsothunder' not 'sonsofthunder' (I've been
KR trying to get that domain for 5 years!), so perhaps you should go to:

Sheesh... seems like I've been typing like that for the last several
days. What good is a computer if it can't figure out what I really
meant to say?

You've got a little longer to wait - the domain doesn't expire until 6
March 2006.

-- 
-Mark Wieder
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Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-03 Thread Todd Higgins
I live in beautiful Lancaster County PA (home of the Amish).  It is a  
nice central location for people traveling from Philadelphia,  
Pittsburgh, Wash. DC, Baltimore, etc.



Regards,

Todd

On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:52 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


I'm in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania.

and a beautiful city it is

Tom

On Jun 3, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Ray Bennett wrote:



I'm in Pennsylvania.

I have 2 others working with me and could rationalize a road trip  
- either driving a day (so, Hotlanta's about the limit - that's 11  
hours) or flying somewhere for which it's possible to get good  
flight deals.



On Friday, June 03, 2005, at 01:56PM, Jim Lyons  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I am in Tallahassee, Florida and would travel to Atlanta,  
Jacksonville,

Orlando, etc to attend a RevCon, and I would help support a regional
group. Thanks.

Jim Lyons

On Jun 3, 2005, at 5:17 AM, Kat wrote:


What about a Southeast RUG?  I'm in east central coast of  
Florida, but
have a son in the Hotlanta area I wouldn't mind visiting now and  
then

;-)  Anybody else from around here?

Cheers,
Kat



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running rev cgi on Mac OS X Server

2005-06-03 Thread Todd Higgins
xcellent article on http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/   
(Thanks for the resource.)  I was not able to find the Darwin engine  
to download, so I pulled the executable out of the Revolution.app


I am getting the following error in my web server log when I try to  
run the hello.cgi.


[Fri Jun  3 23:36:59 2005] [error] [client 192.168.254.2]  
Premature end of script headers: /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/ 
hello.cgi



When I run the script in the message box I get this error:

Script compile error:
Error description: Handler: error in command

What am I doing something wrong?  I have retyped the script verbatim  
(w/ TextWrangler) and saved it to the server with the proper  
permissions.



hello.cgi script begin --

#!revolution

on startup
  put Content-Type: text/plain  cr  cr
  put Hello World!
end startup

-- script ends

Any suggestions?  Is it possible that the rev engine is not running?   
Or is there something wrong with the formatting of my script?


Thanks in advance.

Todd




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Re: possible bug

2005-06-03 Thread Ken Ray

 You've got a little longer to wait - the domain doesn't expire until 6
 March 2006.

Longer still, I'm afraid... the owner of the domain renews it every year,
even though he doesn't do anything with it.

(sigh)


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/



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