Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Richard Gaskin

When did v2.7.5 go final? I think I missed something

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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 When did v2.7.5 go final? I think I missed something

I don't think you missed anything.  It was the last public beta as far as I
know.

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Re: ejecting a disk after using the files funtion

2007-01-10 Thread Horst

Hi Richard, 

Could you please post the link to ³Listing and Sorting Files in Revolution²?
That sounds interesting, but I can´t find the article.

best regards

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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread André.Bisseret

Hi,
Here :
Mac OS X 10.4.8 ;  RR 2.7.4
Importing (a PNG) does not crash Rev,  either using the menu or CMD 
On the other hand, copy - paste crashes Rev.

Best regards from Grenoble
André


Le 10 janv. 07 à 03:01, Andre Garzia a écrit :


Folks,

can someone confirm that importing JPEG or PNG image files using CMD 
+ crashes Rev?


Andre
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Re: Working with Microsoft Exchange Server

2007-01-10 Thread Luis

Hiya,

I'd first suggest they turn on POP3 and IMAP services: I can't see any 
decent reason to turn these off. Arm wrestle if you need to.

They wanna dictate? Dictate back.

But, there is another way (I'm assuming here that they are using the 
latest version of Exchange). Exchange offers Outlook Web Access, ie: 
Webmail. This can also be accessed with RPC over https, without having 
to have Outlook configured to connect 'directly' to an Exchange server.

I haven't looked too far into the protocol but I reckon it's doable in Rev.

If you have an Exchange email account, the Outlook client is free 
anyhow: Maybe you can use WSH to control it and then script this via Rev 
(this would require a Windows PC).


Another alternative would be to set up a rule in that Exchange email 
account to forward to another email address as well (the rule having 
reformatted the subject line with a specific keyword say, in order to 
parse it in Rev).


Depending on what they are doing with the Exchange setup, they may have 
a 'legitimate' reason for turning off IMAP (multiple domains) but 
turning off POP3 is downright stupid: What if someone wants to access 
their email from a PDA? You could justify the need for POP3 by stating 
that you get service messages sent to your mobile...


Cheers,

Luis.


Sarah Reichelt wrote:

Hi All,

I have just been warned of an approaching problem and I wonder if
anyone has any advice. I run numerous Mac-based kiosk systems which
communicate back to base using email. I wrote a stripped-down email
client in Rev that does POP  SMTP. It ignores any HTML emails,
attachments or any emails that do not match the standard structure,
but deals with the others in a way that the main kiosk program can
then handle.

This works really well but I've just been informed that at one site,
they are closing down their POP servers and switching to Microsoft
Exchange Server with both POP  IMAP turned off. They won't  let me
access an external POP server, so I need to find a way to access their
Exchange server while still keeping programmatic control of the
emails.

So far (although I've only just started looking), I can't find any
published protocol which I could use to adapt my existing client. At
the moment I'm looking at buying Entourage and seeing if I can
Applescript it enough to make it work, but that's a very bad solution
- expensive and less secure.

If anyone has any brilliant ideas, I'd love to hear them

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Working with Microsoft Exchange Server

2007-01-10 Thread Luis
A bit of detail on the RPC over https (you need SSL, although it can be 
bypassed I would not follow that route as it needs a Registry mod to the 
server):


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/2f5737af-f2f7-4fe2-9202-dd9a3ac8ac17.aspx


RPC v2:

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1831.txt


Nice example:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/gui_rpc.php


How RPC works:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/4dbc4c95-935b-4617-b4f8-20fc947c72881033.mspx?mfr=true




Luis wrote:

Hiya,

I'd first suggest they turn on POP3 and IMAP services: I can't see any 
decent reason to turn these off. Arm wrestle if you need to.

They wanna dictate? Dictate back.

But, there is another way (I'm assuming here that they are using the 
latest version of Exchange). Exchange offers Outlook Web Access, ie: 
Webmail. This can also be accessed with RPC over https, without having 
to have Outlook configured to connect 'directly' to an Exchange server.

I haven't looked too far into the protocol but I reckon it's doable in Rev.

If you have an Exchange email account, the Outlook client is free 
anyhow: Maybe you can use WSH to control it and then script this via Rev 
(this would require a Windows PC).


Another alternative would be to set up a rule in that Exchange email 
account to forward to another email address as well (the rule having 
reformatted the subject line with a specific keyword say, in order to 
parse it in Rev).


Depending on what they are doing with the Exchange setup, they may have 
a 'legitimate' reason for turning off IMAP (multiple domains) but 
turning off POP3 is downright stupid: What if someone wants to access 
their email from a PDA? You could justify the need for POP3 by stating 
that you get service messages sent to your mobile...


Cheers,

Luis.


Sarah Reichelt wrote:

Hi All,

I have just been warned of an approaching problem and I wonder if
anyone has any advice. I run numerous Mac-based kiosk systems which
communicate back to base using email. I wrote a stripped-down email
client in Rev that does POP  SMTP. It ignores any HTML emails,
attachments or any emails that do not match the standard structure,
but deals with the others in a way that the main kiosk program can
then handle.

This works really well but I've just been informed that at one site,
they are closing down their POP servers and switching to Microsoft
Exchange Server with both POP  IMAP turned off. They won't  let me
access an external POP server, so I need to find a way to access their
Exchange server while still keeping programmatic control of the
emails.

So far (although I've only just started looking), I can't find any
published protocol which I could use to adapt my existing client. At
the moment I'm looking at buying Entourage and seeing if I can
Applescript it enough to make it work, but that's a very bad solution
- expensive and less secure.

If anyone has any brilliant ideas, I'd love to hear them

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Working with Microsoft Exchange Server

2007-01-10 Thread Todd Higgins
Will this site have to support Entourage (mac) users?  If so, then  
they will have to have Outlook Web Access enabled - which means you  
can use the RPC over http method or applescript Entourage  (Yuck!)


I would argue for POP access...

Todd

On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


Hi All,

I have just been warned of an approaching problem and I wonder if
anyone has any advice. I run numerous Mac-based kiosk systems which
communicate back to base using email. I wrote a stripped-down email
client in Rev that does POP  SMTP. It ignores any HTML emails,
attachments or any emails that do not match the standard structure,
but deals with the others in a way that the main kiosk program can
then handle.

This works really well but I've just been informed that at one site,
they are closing down their POP servers and switching to Microsoft
Exchange Server with both POP  IMAP turned off. They won't  let me
access an external POP server, so I need to find a way to access their
Exchange server while still keeping programmatic control of the
emails.

So far (although I've only just started looking), I can't find any
published protocol which I could use to adapt my existing client. At
the moment I'm looking at buying Entourage and seeing if I can
Applescript it enough to make it work, but that's a very bad solution
- expensive and less secure.

If anyone has any brilliant ideas, I'd love to hear them

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Beta Program

2007-01-10 Thread Dave

Hi,

I tried this, but the change all function doesn't work! I can only  
seem to change one file at a time!


All the Best
Dave

On 9 Jan 2007, at 20:29, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


How do you manage to use 2.7.x and 2.6.6. at the same time?

When I installed the 2.7.x evaluation, it changed all owner of my
stacks to the latest version. I got rid of it, but now I have to
manually change the owner for each stack on my system!



Get info about a Rev stack. In the Open with section, select the
version of Rev that you want to use and then click Change all

Cheers,
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Option Key on Launch?

2007-01-10 Thread Dave

Hi All,

Is there any way to find out if the option key is down when a  
Standalone App is launched? Also when a Stack is opened/run in the IDE?


Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave

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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Bill Marriott
Are you guys setting your clocks back or something? Because 2.7.5 Beta 1 
expired on Dec 1.

 When did v2.7.5 go final? I think I missed something

 I don't think you missed anything.  It was the last public beta as far as 
 I
 know.



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Re: beep-answer-freeze

2007-01-10 Thread Bill Marriott
Works instantly for me on 2.7.4 on an AMD 64 X2 4400+

You can get this to happen reliably just opening up Rev from scratch, making 
a new button, and putting that into the MouseUp handler? What version of 
Rev?

Maybe you need to upgrade your PC buzzer! [just kidding! ;)]

Mark Schonewille 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in 
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello,

 I am currently having the following problem on a very modern and fast  PC 
 with a dual processor --sorry, those are the only specs I  currently have. 
 If I run the following script:

 beep
 answer hi

 it takes a very long time, like 5 minutes or so, before the answer  dialog 
 appears. I might also wait one minute, press control-alt- delete and close 
 the task manager (without interrupting any process)  and the answer dialog 
 will appear while the task manager is on-screen.

 The problem is not necessarily related to the fact that this is a 
 dual-processor PC. I would very much appreciate any information  regarding 
 dual-processor PC's, the described problem, possible  causes, and maybe 
 even possible workarounds besides taking out the beep.

 Thanks,

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Re: Option Key on Launch?

2007-01-10 Thread Bill Marriott
on openstack
  if the optionkey is down then answer OptionKey is down!
end openstack

As for any different behaviors you want for IDE vs. standalone, check the 
environment() function.

Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in 
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 Hi All,

 Is there any way to find out if the option key is down when a  Standalone 
 App is launched? Also when a Stack is opened/run in the IDE?



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Re: Belated Happy 2007

2007-01-10 Thread Phil Davis

Hi Jan,

Glad you're feeling better! I had viral pneumonia as a kid and it almost killed 
me. The main thing is, you're still with us!


Best to you in 2007 -
Phil Davis


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To top it off, it seems that my beloved girlfriend was
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I just returned home today, and have mostly recovered
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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Andre Garzia

Gee, it's only my version 2.7.5-dp-1 that is broken!?


On Jan 10, 2007, at 7:18 AM, André.Bisseret wrote:


Hi,
Here :
Mac OS X 10.4.8 ;  RR 2.7.4
Importing (a PNG) does not crash Rev,  either using the menu or CMD 
On the other hand, copy - paste crashes Rev.

Best regards from Grenoble
André


Le 10 janv. 07 à 03:01, Andre Garzia a écrit :


Folks,

can someone confirm that importing JPEG or PNG image files using  
CMD+ crashes Rev?


Andre
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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Wow my clock is very accurate and my version os showing nothing  
about expiration. I have it running very fine except for the fact  
that importing images crash it.


Andre

On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Bill Marriott wrote:

Are you guys setting your clocks back or something? Because 2.7.5  
Beta 1

expired on Dec 1.


When did v2.7.5 go final? I think I missed something


I don't think you missed anything.  It was the last public beta as  
far as

I
know.




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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Alex Shaw

hmm I noticed that too..

I think the public beta was 2.7.5-dp-2 (which has expired)

..  the recent update was 2.7.5-dp-1

One of those weird time warp bugs :)

regards
alex

Andre Garzia wrote:

Gee, it's only my version 2.7.5-dp-1 that is broken!?



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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Andre Garzia
I am afraid of my 2.7.5-dp-1, I think it mutated into something to  
avoid expiration... what is lurking in the dark corners of the  
message path, I do not know!!! anyway, it is running here and it  
doesn't like importing images... can anyone confirm that 2.7.5-dp-1  
will not import images?


Bill or RunRev team, am I doing something wrong running 2.7.5-dp-1?  
is it illegal somehow? It did not expired for me, I've updated during  
RevCon Malta after the team asked for our impressions...


Andre


On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Alex Shaw wrote:


hmm I noticed that too..

I think the public beta was 2.7.5-dp-2 (which has expired)

..  the recent update was 2.7.5-dp-1

One of those weird time warp bugs :)

regards
alex

Andre Garzia wrote:

Gee, it's only my version 2.7.5-dp-1 that is broken!?

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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Devin Asay

Is this the same thing as BZ #3945?

Devin

On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Folks,

can someone confirm that importing JPEG or PNG image files using CMD 
+ crashes Rev?


Andre
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Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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adding fields

2007-01-10 Thread robmann

Is there a way to add fields based on a number entered in a field
such as
ON mouseUp
put fld numberofcolumns into tnumberofcolumns
REPEAT with c = 1 to tnumberofcolumns
--add a new field not sure what this code should be or if it can be done

  ask What do you want to label this field?
  IF it is not empty THEN
put it into myLabel
set the name of the target to myLabel
  END IF
END REPEAT
END mouseUp


Thanks
Rob
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Flash

2007-01-10 Thread Jason Holden
How do I play a SWF?

 

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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Bill Marriott
Ah, I understand now:

Rev 2.7.5-dp-1 = pre-beta (alpha?) release to Enterprise users only
Rev 2.7.5-dp-2 = Beta 1 release, part of open beta

Version dp-2 had an expiration date of Dec 1. Version dp-1 has no expiration 
that I know of.

Although it has not expired and certainly not illegal, I would not recommend 
using dp-1 anymore unless you have a specific reason to do so. There is at 
least one feature that was removed (the new resizing thing). There are a 
slew of bugs that were fixed in dp-2, and even more that will be corrected 
in Beta 2, when it is released in a couple weeks.

Basically, dp-1 is not reflective of what the 2.7.5 version will be, and 
probably going to cause more headaches than necessary. Apologies about the 
nomenclature (we're stuck with the dp naming scheme for now) and for 
forgetting that there was a shadow version of 2.7.5 still out there.

Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am afraid of my 2.7.5-dp-1, I think it mutated into something to  avoid 
expiration... what is lurking in the dark corners of the  message path, I 
do not know!!! anyway, it is running here and it  doesn't like importing 
images... can anyone confirm that 2.7.5-dp-1  will not import images?

 Bill or RunRev team, am I doing something wrong running 2.7.5-dp-1?  is it 
 illegal somehow? It did not expired for me, I've updated during  RevCon 
 Malta after the team asked for our impressions...

 Andre


 On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Alex Shaw wrote:

 hmm I noticed that too..

 I think the public beta was 2.7.5-dp-2 (which has expired)

 ..  the recent update was 2.7.5-dp-1

 One of those weird time warp bugs :)

 regards
 alex

 Andre Garzia wrote:
 Gee, it's only my version 2.7.5-dp-1 that is broken!?
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Re: Flash

2007-01-10 Thread Bill Marriott
Jason,

 How do I play a SWF?

Very shortly, Rev will be releasing the technology it acquired from Altuit 
to embed web browsers within Rev stacks. You can play the Flash files from 
within those embedded browsers.

There is no way to play a Flash movie natively within Rev. It could be 
possible with a plugin or external, but I'm not aware of any that perform 
that function. 



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Re: [ANN] RevOnRockets Web Development educational Package! Happy 2007 everyone.

2007-01-10 Thread Alex Shaw

Great work Andre!

Must say it's a nice tidy improvement to the old mchttp stack.. 
particularly when compared to my own which is a mess :)


Not sure if you are going to create a separate forum for it but I 
noticed in the bit where it creates a new stack for the brazilian-magic 
cgi ... here I see a noticeable stack appear briefly particularly when 
you get fast multiple cgi going or even [browser] refresh a cgi page a 
few times quickly. Anyway, a quick change to create invisible stack 
helped.


Even though I work with fairly small networks where the current 
performance of rev server apps is ok [with small to medium sized data], 
things could be better  I really looking forward a super-duper 
multi-threading version of rev now!


What's that *cough* bug number again? Opps.. enhancement number :)

regards
alex

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Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?

2007-01-10 Thread RGould8
http://www.flicscanner.com/


I'd love to use this device with a Rev app I'm making if at all possible.   I 
have no idea how to interface with BlueTooth technology, however.
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Re: adding fields

2007-01-10 Thread Bill Marriott
Rob,

 Is there a way to add fields based on a number entered in a field
 such as

Absolutely. The command is create

as in

create field myLabel

or

create field
set the name of it to myLabel

However, beware of a potential gotcha in that naming a field -- or any 
object in Rev -- with just a number can result in unpredictable results, 
since you will create an ambiguity about whether you are referring to field 
#3 or the field NAMED 3 -- best to start all object names with at least 
one alpha character. 



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Re: Flash

2007-01-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Bill Marriott wrote:

 There is no way to play a Flash movie natively within Rev. It could be
 possible with a plugin or external, but I'm not aware of any that perform
 that function. 

Flash content can be played in Rev using a player object when QuickTime is
available.  However, the degree of support is limited to what QuickTime is
capable of running (I believe the last time anyone checked, Flash 5 was the
going version -- this may have changed).

Regards,

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Re: Flash

2007-01-10 Thread Alex Shaw

Hi

I believe Jiro Harada has successfully used a Adobe-licensed version of 
the flash plugin with a revapp call F-ab.


Haven't looked at it yet but I am curious has to how flexible the api 
is.. Jiro?


regards
alex

Bill Marriott wrote:

Jason,


How do I play a SWF?


Very shortly, Rev will be releasing the technology it acquired from Altuit 
to embed web browsers within Rev stacks. You can play the Flash files from 
within those embedded browsers.


There is no way to play a Flash movie natively within Rev. It could be 
possible with a plugin or external, but I'm not aware of any that perform 
that function. 



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Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?

2007-01-10 Thread Stephen Barncard
There are a lot of bar code scanners out there. Most will work 
substituting for a keyboard and with any software.


USB seems to be the lingua franca these days, in which case it should 
just plug in to a USB port and will simply type a number into 'the 
selection' in a field after scanning. This will work with any app 
that allows input into fields.


some wands can 'remember' and timestamp many scans and could be 
docked periodically for data download.


serial port for interface might be found in older models. Rev can do 
this, either through a real port on a PC or a virtual port with a 
Keyspan USB-serial dongle.


If the device is bundled with inventory software, beware of 
proprietary connections and platform incompatibilities.


bluetooth might work if the drivers patch into the keyboard input, 
the computer in use has bluetooth, and all the compatibility issues 
are met. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a wire?  You won't need 
anything else if you get a USB-as-keyboard unit.


so choose wisely and talk to tech support before you buy.





http://www.flicscanner.com/


I'd love to use this device with a Rev app I'm making if at all possible.   I
have no idea how to interface with BlueTooth technology, however.


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Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?

2007-01-10 Thread RGould8
I'm open to the suggestion of going USB instead of BlueTooth, and picking a 
barcode scanner that types into an input field like a keyboard.   

Can anyone tell me of any favorites?   In particular, any that could be 
wireless, collect a bunch of data, and then plug into the computer to download 
the 
data into a Revolution text field?



In a message dated 1/10/07 11:37:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


 There are a lot of bar code scanners out there. Most will work
 substituting for a keyboard and with any software.
 
 USB seems to be the lingua franca these days, in which case it should
 just plug in to a USB port and will simply type a number into 'the
 selection' in a field after scanning. This will work with any app
 that allows input into fields.
 
 some wands can 'remember' and timestamp many scans and could be
 docked periodically for data download.
 
 serial port for interface might be found in older models. Rev can do
 this, either through a real port on a PC or a virtual port with a
 Keyspan USB-serial dongle.
 
 If the device is bundled with inventory software, beware of
 proprietary connections and platform incompatibilities.
 
 bluetooth might work if the drivers patch into the keyboard input,
 the computer in use has bluetooth, and all the compatibility issues
 are met. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a wire?  You won't need
 anything else if you get a USB-as-keyboard unit.
 
 so choose wisely and talk to tech support before you buy.
 
 
 
 
 http://www.flicscanner.com/
 
 
 I'd love to use this device with a Rev app I'm making if at all possible.   
 I
 have no idea how to interface with BlueTooth technology, however.
 
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Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Stgoldberg
Can anyone suggest a script to hide the Tools Palette on OpenStack?   I have 
not been able to find a way.   Thanks.
Steve Goldberg
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RevRecordVideo- multiple instances within an app?

2007-01-10 Thread Kotthoff, Jon

Is there anyway that a I can creat a stack that captures from 2 webcams 
concurrently?

I need to know this ASAP for a project I am working on...

Thanks in advance

Jon
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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Steve,

Can anyone suggest a script to hide the Tools Palette on  
OpenStack?   I have

not been able to find a way.   Thanks.
Steve Goldberg


Maybe this will do the job?

on openstack
  hide stack revTools
end openstack

? :-)


Regards

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Re: RevRecordVideo- multiple instances within an app?

2007-01-10 Thread Pierre Sahores

Hi Jon

Untesteded for my own but if it lacks, have an eye to Live Channel  
Pro http://www.channelstorm.com/ (Mac OS X only but works perfect  
for years) or how to play multiple movies simultanious in a simple  
web page in using both the object and emb tags to get fine  
display on both Mac OS and Windows (works perfect too, even within  
MSIE windows).


Best Regards,

Le 10 janv. 07 à 18:30, Kotthoff, Jon a écrit :



Is there anyway that a I can creat a stack that captures from 2  
webcams concurrently?


I need to know this ASAP for a project I am working on...

Thanks in advance

Jon
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Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?

2007-01-10 Thread Stephen Barncard
Google for bar code scanners and find a manufacturer or retail that 
will let you borrow or return one for testing. It's very competitive 
out there in that market. Tell them you're a developer...



I'm open to the suggestion of going USB instead of BlueTooth, and picking a
barcode scanner that types into an input field like a keyboard.  


Can anyone tell me of any favorites?   In particular, any that could be
wireless, collect a bunch of data, and then plug into the computer 
to download the

data into a Revolution text field?



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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Interesting! That does not work from the msg box, but does work from  
the open stack handler; however, once the stack is open the Tools  
Menu does not allow you to show the Tools Palette, and the Menu item  
for the Tools Palette is still checked.  Somewhat strange behavior.


Joe Wilkins

On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


hide stack revTools


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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Joe,


Interesting! That does not work from the msg box,


??? Works here.


but does work from the open stack handler;
however, once the stack is open the Tools Menu does not allow you  
to show the Tools Palette,


This menu item is supposed to open/close the tools palette and is not  
prepared for

weird user-actions like hiding the tools ;-)


and the Menu item for the Tools Palette is still checked.


See above, the stack is still open, so no need for unchecking the  
menuitem!



Somewhat strange behavior.


...whose? :-D


Joe Wilkins

On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


hide stack revTools


Regards

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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The best way to store arrays as text file?

2007-01-10 Thread David Bovill

Like a lot of people I use arrays a lot, and as it is generally good
practice to store data external to the application it is usefull to be able
to save array data to disk as a some sort of file. So my question is what is
the best way of storing arbitrary array data in a cross platform way?

You could do it using a stack - which works and while I cannot think of
anything directly against it - well lets say we don't do that :)
How about those annoying Apple pLists? While they are an ugly looking
structure they do seem to have the right sort of structure to store
arbitrary array data. The array keys can are not used as tags but tag
contents of a key element, and I think it should be possible to create
two general functions:

 - arrayToXML and xmlToArray for storing anything you have in
(multidimensional) arrays to disk and back.

One advantage of using pLists is that you get access to all sorts of other
usefull data stored in that format - but is there a better format / option?
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Contents of a field to XML...

2007-01-10 Thread David Bovill

Related to the lastpost I'm looking for the most general way to take any
text in field an put it into an XML document?

I was hoping that htmltext would do the trick but is is not xHTML compliant,
so I am thinking about using the unicode functions and UTF8 - would that be
the way to go? And if so what are the issues in terms of making the document
cross platform?
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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Hi Klaus,

Thanks, probably my strange behavior; and it did work from the msg  
box when I tried it again; and show then showed it as expected, but  
the Tools Menu wouldn't do anything to either show or hide after  
that. So it is still a little strange! (smile)


Joe Wilkins

On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


Hi Joe,


Interesting! That does not work from the msg box,


??? Works here.


but does work from the open stack handler;
however, once the stack is open the Tools Menu does not allow you  
to show the Tools Palette,


This menu item is supposed to open/close the tools palette and is  
not prepared for

weird user-actions like hiding the tools ;-)


and the Menu item for the Tools Palette is still checked.


See above, the stack is still open, so no need for unchecking the  
menuitem!



Somewhat strange behavior.


...whose? :-D


Joe Wilkins

On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


hide stack revTools


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Steve,

close stack revTools

The IDE does not hide this palette but closes it:
So just do the same ;-)

Le 10 janv. 07 à 17:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

Can anyone suggest a script to hide the Tools Palette on  
OpenStack?   I have

not been able to find a way.   Thanks.
Steve Goldberg
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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Jim Ault
On 1/10/07 10:03 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks, probably my strange behavior; and it did work from the msg
 box when I tried it again; and show then showed it as expected, but
 the Tools Menu wouldn't do anything to either show or hide after
 that. So it is still a little strange! (smile)

You probably toggled the hide/show without also setting a flag and allowing
a handler to do the menu update.  After that, the flag variable (in the menu
handler) is probably out of sync.

Try finding the Rev lib handler and calling that to toggle the tools
palette.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

 
 Joe Wilkins
 
 On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
 
 Hi Joe,
 
 Interesting! That does not work from the msg box,
 
 ??? Works here.
 
 but does work from the open stack handler;
 however, once the stack is open the Tools Menu does not allow you
 to show the Tools Palette,
 
 This menu item is supposed to open/close the tools palette and is
 not prepared for
 weird user-actions like hiding the tools ;-)
 
 and the Menu item for the Tools Palette is still checked.
 
 See above, the stack is still open, so no need for unchecking the
 menuitem!
 
 Somewhat strange behavior.
 
 ...whose? :-D
 
 Joe Wilkins
 
 On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
 
 hide stack revTools
 
 Regards
 
 Klaus Major
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.major-k.de
 
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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Now that's the way it should be done. It handles the menu checking  
and then the Tools Menu item works just as it should.

Thanks, Eric.
Joe Wilkins

On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Steve,

close stack revTools

The IDE does not hide this palette but closes it:
So just do the same ;-)

Le 10 janv. 07 à 17:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

Can anyone suggest a script to hide the Tools Palette on  
OpenStack?   I have

not been able to find a way.   Thanks.
Steve Goldberg
__


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Eric Chatonet
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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-10 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:30 PM, chris bohnert wrote:

Did I miss a spec?  Does the phone actually have GPS or are you  
referring to
the time differencing data that most carriers use to triangulate a  
phones

location?


I thought I heard that Google Maps knew where you were on the  
iPhone so I assumed that some sort of GPS data was available.


I watched the iPhone presentation last night and noticed when talking  
about Google Maps that Steve started at the Moscone center using a  
saved location.  I think the live coverage I was reading mistakingly  
thought that Google Maps knew the actual location.


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Re: external editor for Revolution

2007-01-10 Thread Reinhold Venzl-Schubert

Hi Stephen, hi Ken,


Well you might try Galaxy.
http://www.runrev.com/section/revselect/galaxy/index.php
But that's a pro product - you said you were 'tinkering' - it costs a
little bit, but is quite more than just an 'external editor' - it's
an incredibly well-tested alternate IDE and well loved by this author.

Or try BBEDIT or TextWrangler (free)
http://barebonessoftware.com/products/textwrangler/



You can also use TextMate and SubEthaEdit, but make sure you download
the STS/MLXEditor plugin so you can have your text editor
automatically open when you choose to edit a script, and have it
automatically saved back again.


Thanks for your advices. I tried them but all of them are too  
powerful  for me (tinkering ;-).


I helped myself in this way:
I created a small stack with only a field.
Then I wrote my script in the scripteditor of it.
I can colorize and format it und compose it in my way until I copy it  
in its final place.

And I can store it over night without changing my program.

Reinhold
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Re: Option Key on Launch?

2007-01-10 Thread Ken Ray

On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Bill Marriott wrote:


on openstack
  if the optionkey is down then answer OptionKey is down!
end openstack


It may be better to use the 'startup' handler instead of 'openstack'  
if you want to specifically trap for when the standalone is launched  
as 'startup' is ONLY sent to a standalone.


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Re: The best way to store arrays as text file?

2007-01-10 Thread Stephen Barncard

Well I use two ways to store arrays...

Does the data need to be read outside of rev or not?
If they're going to be read by a revolution app, then

they can be stored and recovered intact as a custom property set in 
an external stack.


I also pack them into a single custom property using tabbed fields 
for each record. One record on each line. First item is the key. If 
returns and other special characters are in the array then 
URLEncoding/Decoding can be used for certain data.


If text files are needed to move that data to anywhere else, you're 
probably limited to tab delimited fields with linefeeds subbed for 
returns in data and returns for records unless you use XML.


I would use XML like methods, but they all seem cumbersome compared 
to just rigidly formatting the data and using properties, at least 
for state and prefs purposes.





Like a lot of people I use arrays a lot, and as it is generally good
practice to store data external to the application it is usefull to be able
to save array data to disk as a some sort of file. So my question is what is
the best way of storing arbitrary array data in a cross platform way?

You could do it using a stack - which works and while I cannot think of
anything directly against it - well lets say we don't do that :)
How about those annoying Apple pLists? While they are an ugly looking
structure they do seem to have the right sort of structure to store
arbitrary array data. The array keys can are not used as tags but tag
contents of a key element, and I think it should be possible to create
two general functions:

 - arrayToXML and xmlToArray for storing anything you have in
(multidimensional) arrays to disk and back.

One advantage of using pLists is that you get access to all sorts of other
usefull data stored in that format - but is there a better format / option?


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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread J. Landman Gay

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Hi Klaus,

Thanks, probably my strange behavior; and it did work from the msg box 
when I tried it again; and show then showed it as expected, but the 
Tools Menu wouldn't do anything to either show or hide after that. So it 
is still a little strange! (smile)


Note the difference between a stack that is hidden (invisible but still 
open) and closed. The menu is toggling the open/closed state, not the 
visible state.


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Re: Contents of a field to XML...

2007-01-10 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Related to the lastpost I'm looking for the most
 general way to take any
 text in field an put it into an XML document?
 
 I was hoping that htmltext would do the trick but is
 is not xHTML compliant,
 so I am thinking about using the unicode functions
 and UTF8 - would that be
 the way to go? And if so what are the issues in
 terms of making the document
 cross platform?
 

Hi David,

A while ago I needed a way to make the htmlText of a
field XML-compliant. The main difficulty was in the
img tags which aren't closed. Here's what I came up
with:
##
function htmlText2xml pHtmlText
  put img src=  quote into kOPENTAG
  put quote   into kCLOSETAG
  --  
  put 0 into tStart
  put offset(kOPENTAG,pHtmlText,tStart) into tOffset
  repeat until tOffset = 0
put offset(kCLOSETAG,pHtmlText,tStart+tOffset)
into tEnd
put  / after char tStart+tOffset+tEnd of
pHtmlText
add tOffset + 10 to tStart
put offset(kOPENTAG,tText,tStart) into tOffset
  end repeat
  return ?xml version=  quote  1.0  quote 
?  return  \
  html  return  pHtmlText  return 
/html
end htmlText2xml
##

As the htmlText will automatically replace any
non-Latin characters with enity numbers, you don't
have to worry too much about Unicode.
Some XML parsers will complain that these entities
aren't specified anywhere. But at least you can
process the resulting xml with Rev's xml library
calls.

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

Quartam Reports for Revolution
http://www.quartam.com

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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Thanks, that would be the only thing that would account for the results.

JW

On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:03 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Hi Klaus,
Thanks, probably my strange behavior; and it did work from the msg  
box when I tried it again; and show then showed it as expected,  
but the Tools Menu wouldn't do anything to either show or hide  
after that. So it is still a little strange! (smile)


Note the difference between a stack that is hidden (invisible but  
still open) and closed. The menu is toggling the open/closed state,  
not the visible state.


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Re: Working with Microsoft Exchange Server

2007-01-10 Thread Sarah Reichelt

I'd first suggest they turn on POP3 and IMAP services: I can't see any
decent reason to turn these off. Arm wrestle if you need to.
They wanna dictate? Dictate back.



Thanks Luis  Todd for your suggestions. The arm-wrestling one is
looking much the best, but I'll study those examples and have at look
at the RPC stuff just in case...

Cheers,
Sarah
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Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread Stgoldberg
Thanks for the word revTools Klaus to refer to the tools palette.   I 
didn't find it in the Rev dictionary.   However, in order to hide the tools 
palette, I   suggest modifying the command to CLOSE stack revTools rather 
than HIDE 
stack revTools, since the HIDE command, while hiding the tools palette, 
does not uncheck the tools palette option in the Tools menu and it is then not 
possible to reshow the tools palette through the Tools menu.   Switching the 
command to CLOSE stack revTools, though, permits one to reopen the tools 
palette through the Tools menu.   The value of having this command is that when 
someone else who is not a programmer uses the stack they will be less likely to 
mess things up through an open Tools palette.
Steve Goldberg

In a message dated 1/10/07 12:53:07 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 From: Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Command to hide the tool palette
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
 
 Hi Steve,
 
  Can anyone suggest a script to hide the Tools Palette on 
  OpenStack?   I have
  not been able to find a way.   Thanks.
  Steve Goldberg
 
 Maybe this will do the job?
 
 on openstack
    hide stack revTools
 end openstack
 

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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-10 Thread Jerry J

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



By this time next year the iPhone may even bake bread.
Paul Looney


As Ralph Kramden once said: Will it core a apple?

Cheer,
Jerry Jensen

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Re: RevRecordVideo- multiple instances within an app?

2007-01-10 Thread Richard Miller

Jon,

Yes, you can use Rev to do this. Create two separate Rev apps that  
each capture from one camera. When the first program starts  
capturing, have it tell the second one to begin as well. One way to  
do that, as has been suggested to me here, is by having the first app  
set some kind of flag through a saved text file, which the second app  
will scan for. When it sees a change to the flag, it starts capturing.


I've tried this on a relatively low-powered PC laptop with two  
firewire webcams. It works fine, though it takes a bit of tweaking to  
get it going. You can use a codec like 3ivx. No problem capturing 30  
fps at 640 x 480, with excellent results.


Richard Miller
Imprinter Technologies


On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Kotthoff, Jon wrote:



Is there anyway that a I can creat a stack that captures from 2  
webcams concurrently?


I need to know this ASAP for a project I am working on...

Thanks in advance

Jon
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Re: Command to hide the tool palette

2007-01-10 Thread J. Landman Gay

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the word revTools Klaus to refer to the tools palette.   I 
didn't find it in the Rev dictionary.


The IDE stacks aren't generally listed there (you aren't really expected 
to mess with them,) but here is a handy trick:


 put the short name of the mousestack

This will put the name of the stack the mouse is currently in. So just 
move your mouse someone over the stack you want to know about (no need 
to click) and then execute the line from the message box.


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Re: mousemove crash

2007-01-10 Thread Brad Sampson

If you are just using mouseMove as a handler that you want to be sent a lot
of times, I would suggest this.  Also, if you are drawing a line, it might
be more stable just to use this script anyway, and just ignoring any
mouseLocs that are the same as the previous recorded mouseLoc.

on openStack
global backgroundMessageCount
add 1 to backgroundMessageCount
backgroundMessages
end openstack

on backgroundMessages
global backgroundMessageCount
add 1 to backgroundMessageCount
if backgroundMessageCount mod 50 is 0 then
-- Do whatever you need to here
end if
if backgroundMessageCount mod 1000 is 0 then
-- Do whatever else you need to here
end if
if backgroundMessages is not in the pendingMessages then send
pendingMessages to me in 1 millisecond
end backgroundMessages

This is just a sample script.  The point of the backgroundMessageCount is
that you can have multiple scripts running at different rates.

For the example of substituting for a mouseMove script, I would use this:

on backgroundMessages
global backgroundMessageCount,theMouseLoc
add 1 to backgroundMessageCount
if the mouseLoc is not theMouseLoc then
put the mouseLoc into theMouseLoc
-- Do whatever you need to here
end if
if backgroundMessages is not in the pendingMessages then send
pendingMessages to me in 1 millisecond
end backgroundMessages

I hope it helps!
Brad
CMSEC
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Re: The best way to store arrays as text file?

2007-01-10 Thread Jim Ault
On 1/10/07 11:00 AM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Well I use two ways to store arrays...
 
 Does the data need to be read outside of rev or not?
 If they're going to be read by a revolution app, then
 
 they can be stored and recovered intact as a custom property set in
 an external stack.
 
 I also pack them into a single custom property using tabbed fields
 for each record. One record on each line. First item is the key. If
 returns and other special characters are in the array then
 URLEncoding/Decoding can be used for certain data.

One handy, and very fast custom prop technique I use is ...
Start with the concept that a custom property set *is* an array.

on packCustomProps
   put the customproperties of this stack into tempArr
   combine tempArr using cr and tab --now tab delim
   put tempArr into url (file: pathToFile  filename .txt)
   --the current property set is now saved
end packCustomProps


--the reverse direction to use the data
on openstack
   put url (file: pathToFile  filename .txt) into tempArr
   split tempArr using cr and tab --now an array
   set the customproperties of this stack into tempArr
   --the current property set is now restored
end openstack
 --and the variable tempArr is purged by Rev when the handler ends

-
 If text files are needed to move that data to anywhere else, you're
 probably limited to tab delimited fields with linefeeds subbed for
 returns in data and returns for records unless you use XML.
There are more options for storage if you consider Applescript for the Mac
or VBA for Windows, but that gets into exchanging data with companion apps
(which I do everyday), but definitely not simple.

Caution about text file storage.  Watch for the use of

put cr  newData after url (file: pathToFile  filename .txt)
--where over the weeks the file size can grow to over 2 Mb.  Performance
will slow dramatically, esp over 10 Mb.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: beep-answer-freeze

2007-01-10 Thread Brad Sampson

I was just recently experiencing problems that are probably attributed to
the same thing.  I had an image called image Play Output.  In the script,
it said:

wait 15 ticks with messages
show image Play Output

It would show the image, then it would get the error that image Play
Output doesn't exist.  It was because I was having an... imaginary error
somewhere else in script.  I tried for hours to track down the error, but
everything else was working fine.  Finally, I had to use a roundabout way to
do it.  The beep command takes time to execute, so another command might be
getting an error that doesn't really exist... I mean... its not a real
error, but revolution thinks it is... anyway, Revolution throws the error
out and the very next line of code has problems.  These are all roundabout,
but one of them might work:
1.  Put the line wait 0 ticks in between those lines of code
2.  Try replacing answer hi with something else, and see if that line
has problems instead
3.  If nothing else works, and your desperate, write your own handler that
makes a substack answer box

On number 3, I had the same problem, but with the revCopyFile command.  It
would take 30 seconds to execute, even on miniscule files.  I had to use a
shell command, and then it took a matter of milliseconds.

I hope one of those fixes your problem... although they're not fixing the
problem, they're going around it.  But if you can use a roundabout way and
save a few hours of debuging, that's worth it, right?
Brad
CMESC
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Re: adding fields

2007-01-10 Thread Brad Sampson

To avoid problems with renaming fields, you can just:

set the name of the templateField to fieldName

You can set any property that you could a regular field of the
templateField.  Then, when you create a field, it will have all of those
properties.

Brad
CMSEC
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Re: BUG: importing image files crash rev 2.7.5

2007-01-10 Thread Richard Gaskin

Bill Marriott wrote:

Ah, I understand now:

Rev 2.7.5-dp-1 = pre-beta (alpha?) release to Enterprise users only
Rev 2.7.5-dp-2 = Beta 1 release, part of open beta


If the nomenclature describing these releases confuses the head of Q/A,
imagine what it does for the rest of us.  ;)

Is there a plan to adopt the more common industry convention of simply
Development, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Release?

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Broadcasts On OS X

2007-01-10 Thread Bridger Maxwell

Hey,
 Today I was trying to get broadcasts working for a simple (very simple)
chat program for use on a LAN that sends using broadcasts.  I was able to
get the Windows version working fine, it sent to the IP 192.168.0.255 and
all the other clients received it (PC and Mac), but I can't seem to send a
broadcast on my OS X machine.  I am sending it to the same address, but no
one receives it.  I ran the shell command ifconfig to divine the broadcast
address (which was the same as the one the PC was using), but it didn't
work.  Is there a different address I should be sending it to?

TTFN
  Bridger
  CMSEC
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