RE: Location of stack
From: Sarah Reichelt I'm guessing your stack has a menu. On Mac stacks, Rev does some funny business to hide the menu buttons off the top of the stacks window and create a real Mac menu. But this doesn't happen immediately. If you set the loc in a preOpenStack or startup handler, the menu bar will not have been hidden yet and the stack will effectively be taller. If you set the loc in an openStack handler, then the menu will have been hidden and the height of the stack the same as it was when you stored the loc, so it will work as expected. One workaround is to check if there is a menubar and, if so, check if there is a difference in height between the stack and the card. If they are the same, then the menu has not yet drawn and you need to compensate for this manually. Thanks, Sarah. If I do it in openStack instead of preOpenStack, will it still position the window before it's first displayed? -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Runtime Revolution?
Oui ! Oui ! Oui ! Oui ! Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! Le 14 mai 2010 à 13:16, Robert Mann a écrit : For info I just left this message on his site.. i'm pretty sure we would be quite a few people intresting in such a library -- Hi I got your contact through Robert Marquardt on the revolution nabble list. It seems that you could be interested in building some libraries for runrev?! I just wanted to let you know of a runrev hole that would call for an external library to deal with basic audio functions. -- runrev uses quicktimes, and just allow to play and record, full stop. -- a quicktime external enhanced library does add a quite a lot of functions. But it is mostly targeted at video. Example : the transition filter does not seem to deal with the audio channels.. so no audio fade in an out. Up to now it is the great and only existing sound library for runrev, thanks to Trevor de Vore. Sound quality is something important to users, even unconsciously it brings a sense of quality. Se we miss just a few basic sound functions like : A to enhance quality of recorded wave files : - fade in / fade out - cross mix fade in and out - normalization - a simple basic reverb/echo combined for voice/music with basic setting == Just that would be a really nice helper that could let you test the runrev world! B to output mp3 (so far we have to use lame which is great, but, implies installing that on each computer... an included plugin would be much more simple and reduce risks of support issues) C ?? if hunger for .. basic mix functions between deifferent sound files, opening up a new era for runrev for music tools... There are a few people who have done a few great music programs already on runrev. The challenge is that a runrev library has to be ok in Os X and windows.. and possibly linux.. ! have a good day from France, Robert Maniquant ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
On 16/05/2010, at 4:34 PM, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: From: Sarah Reichelt I'm guessing your stack has a menu. On Mac stacks, Rev does some funny business to hide the menu buttons off the top of the stacks window and create a real Mac menu. But this doesn't happen immediately. If you set the loc in a preOpenStack or startup handler, the menu bar will not have been hidden yet and the stack will effectively be taller. If you set the loc in an openStack handler, then the menu will have been hidden and the height of the stack the same as it was when you stored the loc, so it will work as expected. One workaround is to check if there is a menubar and, if so, check if there is a difference in height between the stack and the card. If they are the same, then the menu has not yet drawn and you need to compensate for this manually. Thanks, Sarah. If I do it in openStack instead of preOpenStack, will it still position the window before it's first displayed? No, in that case, it should work fine, except that your users will see the window flash up and then move. A compromise might be to set the loc in both handlers. Then it will appear almost in the right place and then shuffle a little bit. Cheers, Sarah___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
You could also hide the stack on preOpenStack then do your business and show the stack on openStack. Best, Jerry Daniels Create iPad web apps with Rodeo: http://rodeoapps.com On May 16, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/2010, at 4:34 PM, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: From: Sarah Reichelt I'm guessing your stack has a menu. On Mac stacks, Rev does some funny business to hide the menu buttons off the top of the stacks window and create a real Mac menu. But this doesn't happen immediately. If you set the loc in a preOpenStack or startup handler, the menu bar will not have been hidden yet and the stack will effectively be taller. If you set the loc in an openStack handler, then the menu will have been hidden and the height of the stack the same as it was when you stored the loc, so it will work as expected. One workaround is to check if there is a menubar and, if so, check if there is a difference in height between the stack and the card. If they are the same, then the menu has not yet drawn and you need to compensate for this manually. Thanks, Sarah. If I do it in openStack instead of preOpenStack, will it still position the window before it's first displayed? No, in that case, it should work fine, except that your users will see the window flash up and then move. A compromise might be to set the loc in both handlers. Then it will appear almost in the right place and then shuffle a little bit. Cheers, Sarah___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Location of stack
From: Sarah Reichelt No, in that case, it should work fine, except that your users will see the window flash up and then move. A compromise might be to set the loc in both handlers. Then it will appear almost in the right place and then shuffle a little bit. Alternatively, is there a way to know in advance how much to twiddle the vertical location by? It's 12 in my system, and I assume that's half the height of the non-existent menu bar, but I expect that varies depending upon the screen resolution or something-or-other, just as it would under Windows. There really ought to be a clean way to get a program to remember its window location without momentarily appearing at the wrong location whenever it's opened. It surprises me that the menu causes problems on the Mac (including all the weirdness about menu items being moved around) that don't occur on Windows, given that Rev is descended from Hypercard, a Mac program. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Location of stack
From: Jerry Daniels You could also hide the stack on preOpenStack then do your business and show the stack on openStack. That sounds like it's worth a try. Thanks. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
I'm not positive it will work...maybe openStack won't get sent if the stack isn't visible. You could send your own custom message, tho, on preOpenStack. I do stuff like that on startUp to give libURL time to load. Best, Jerry Daniels Create iPad web apps with Rodeo: http://rodeoapps.com On May 16, 2010, at 5:15 AM, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: From: Jerry Daniels You could also hide the stack on preOpenStack then do your business and show the stack on openStack. That sounds like it's worth a try. Thanks. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
Alternatively, is there a way to know in advance how much to twiddle the vertical location by? It's 12 in my system, and I assume that's half the height of the non-existent menu bar, but I expect that varies depending upon the screen resolution or something-or-other, just as it would under Windows. There really ought to be a clean way to get a program to remember its window location without momentarily appearing at the wrong location whenever it's opened. Yes, once the menu bar is visible, check the height of the stack and the height of the card. I can't recall exactly now, but they are either 24 or 26 pixels different, so if you are using the loc, then you need to allow for half of that. If your routine checks these 2 heights, if they are the same, then the menubar has not yet been drawn and the fudge factor needs to be applied, but the fudge is consistent. It surprises me that the menu causes problems on the Mac (including all the weirdness about menu items being moved around) that don't occur on Windows, given that Rev is descended from Hypercard, a Mac program. Descended fro Mac OS 10 via Unix. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revigniter - Model-View-Controller in Rev terms?
Hi Ralf - I'm going to take a second look at revIgnitor - and pretty much agree with the entire approach and the mapping of MVC concepts to Rev. I am looking forward to integrating my code into your framework :) This is how I see the mapping: *View* Yes the visual appearance of the interface that lays out the data on screen ready for interaction. But specifically it includes any presentation logic such as code for resizing the view, or changing it's visual appearance. Also in general I feel that views map to groups with behaviors - therefore the Datagrid is a view. you should be able to drag and drop views onto cards and ideally nest them within each other, and to do this in a way which is completely independent of your particular applications logic and data. These views usually have custom properties that allow you to get and set their data in a standard way and also to change their appearance - a test of their MVC'ness is the ability to move them around and use them as is without editing their code in any way. I have found it very useful to test out views precisely this way by keeping them in an external library and testing the ability to drag and drop them into a variety of situations (manually or under script control). It would be possible to consider some cards or even stacks as views - so far I don;t do that - but it is possible for instance to automatically create stacks as dialogues which contain group views - so for instance I use the standard video, image, xml, and tree views to display data in a window using a command such as display_Image someUrl which creates a new stack, and copies the image view to that stack. It's a side effect of creating a good view that you also create some good dialogue stacks. *Models* I've not done that much on these and intend to use Trevors sqlYoga, and / or the work that Ralf has done. The important bit for me is the ability to move from arrays to databases - so I have an abstraction layer that uses arrays, but can easily be switched to XML or a database. *Controllers* The glue. I agree with Ralf that the best place usually for this code is the card script. And in simple terms it does everything else required to glue the views to the data. It is where the code that really defines the logic of your application is. I have a way of creating this code which automatically creates a basic interface - so this is often where I start coding -dragging a few basic views onto screen to display the data, and gradually defining the model. At the end I create new custom views for the application - perhaps by cloning one of the existing ones and if it is useful adding it to the library. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: News on revMobile and the iPhone
Hi List, So RunRev just seems to suffer as collateral damage in this stupid war between these big players Yes, I think the same. I'm sure that RunRev will retake the way and take advantage of all present and futures alternatives that we can know in the next months. Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/News-on-revMobile-and-the-iPhone-tp2218042p2218478.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: player object and https URL
I've not tried this but if you can fetch the same url as data with: - put url https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.movhttps://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov And you are not able to set the filename - then it must be a bug? On 15 May 2010 20:02, Martin Koob mk...@rogers.com wrote: Martin Koob mk...@... writes: I tried to set the filename of a player object to the url for a movie which is on an ssl protected server ie https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov The movie does not load One additional thing I noticed. If I set the filename of the player by script to an https url it will return could not create movie reference Any ideas why this happens? Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library or a small audio complementary library!
Robert I am very interested in your requests, myself repeatedly mentioned the lack of Runrev about Audio. Thatt interests me most is related functions Midi, ie to create sounds directly from RunRev for them to be played by the QuickTime synthesizer (or other ...). Unfortunately I have not the skills required to create these functions. I just did a search in Gmane (Midi / audio), the results are 1893 results for Audio and 527 for south I think many RevTalker are interested in the subject. René Robert, Je suis très intéressé par vos demandes, ayant, moi-même à de nombreuses reprises évoqué les manques de Runrev en matière d'Audio. Pour ce qui me concerne, ce qui m'intéresse le plus ce sont des fonctions liées au Midi, c'est à dire pouvoir créer des sons directement depuis RunRev pour qu'ils soient joués par le synthétiseur QuickTime (ou autre...). Je n'ai malheureusement pas non plus les compétences requises pour créer ces fonctions. Je viens de faire une recherche dans GMane (Midi/audio), les résultats sont 1893 résultats pour Audio et 527 pour Midi, je pense que beaucoup de RevTalker sont intéressés par le sujet. René Le 14 mai 2010 à 13:49, Robert Mann a écrit : We have a runrev hole that would call for an external library regarding basic audio functions : -- runrev uses quicktimes, and just allow to play and record, full stop. -- a quicktime external enhanced library does add a quite a lot of functions. But it is mostly targeted at video. Example : the transition filter does not seem to deal with the audio channels.. so no audio fade in or fade out. Up to now it is the great and only existing sound library for runrev, thanks to Trevor Devore. It took me quite a while to come up with a solution to record sounds and concatenate them and then output a mp3 file. The only decent solution I found was to record wave, transcode in mp3 using lame and then re-transform into .mov with trevor devore eQt lib, to finally import a compact internal audio file in the form of a movie, since internally runrev does not read mp3, and finally destroy the intermediate files... pf!!! The next person that talls me that runrev reduces programming by an order of x10... i'll ask to demonstrate with what should be a simple task like that!! for me it was more like complication of x100 magnitude because I nearly found the no solution wall, and frankly, this is not satisfactory to deploy. And there is more now : Sound quality is something important to users, even unconsciously it brings a sense of quality. Se we miss just a few basic sound functions like : A) to enhance quality of recorded wave files : 1- fade in / fade out 2- cross mix fade in and out between two or more files. 3- normalization 4- a simple basic reverb/echo combined for voice/music with basic setting == Just 1) and 2/ would already be great to deal with recorded material within runrev ! B) to output mp3 (so far we have to use lame which is great, but, implies installing that on each computer... an included plugin would be much more simple and reduce risks of support issues) C) ?? if hunger for .. basic mix functions between deifferent sound files, opening up a new era for runrev for music tools... D) some in depth tools like a library to open up a wave file extract content and make it possible to add expand audio libraries in xTalk. There was an revOline stack that showed how to do that already, but outlined one need basic quicker library functions to make it operationnal. I personnaly do not have the competence to do that, otherwise I sure would! Some of you and some french folks in particular, have made some great audio work already using runrev. I do believe that runrev could attract more of that music and sound NRJ. And I personnaly would of course pay for such libraries, if that cost can be shared (smile.. to sell it back tu runrev afeter??!!) Any thought welcomed... -- possibly to confirm the need for that (Am I all alone there??! smile!) -- help target (what do we really need as a whole) ?? -- help set up something to make it happen (hunger strike at runrev or pre-ordering to an interesting party?) So long from France! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/audio-Call-for-an-updated-enhanced-quicktime-audio-library-or-a-small-audio-complementary-library-tp2216458p2216458.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
revIgniter update (1.3.1b)
revIgniter v1.3.1b has been released. This version addresses an engine issue where the $_POST variable of an Ajax request is not present / is empty if FireFox is used. The jQuery library can now be used without restrictions. Info and download at: http://revigniter.com/ Ralf ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN]The Data Grid Helper is on the road
Dear List, The Slug is back with a new idea around the Data Grid Object. After working on a library dedicated to the Data Grid, I decided to build something I think, more useful for all. The Data Grid Helper, is a different way to show the parameters of a Data Grid, but not only: - you could define quickly all the parameters you need for a Data Grid, with no code. It propose for example to define the header and body margins that are not available parameters of the RR's palette. - it will help you to write your code and templates for the Data Grid - it will bring to you, ready-to-use objects and handlers This tool is actually in construction. A french version is planned. To know more about this project, I invite you to read the road map: http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=74:data-grid-helpercatid=41:tools-for-revolutionItemid=64 I invite you especially to watch the video of the Data Grid Helper palette in action. It could give you a preview how it performs. For french members -- The Slug est de retour avec une nouvelle idée autour de l'object Data Grid Après avoir travaillé sur une librairie dédiée à la grille de donnée, j'ai décidé de construire quelque chose qui je pense, sera plus utile pour tous. Le Data Grid Helper est une façon différent de présenter les paramètres de la Data Grid, mais pas seulement: - vous pouvez définir rapidement tous les paramètres que vous désirez pour une Data Grid, sans écrire de code. Il propose par exemple de définir les marges entêtes et corps alors que ce ne sont pas des paramètres disponibles dans la palette de RR. - il vous aidera à écrire votre code et template pour la Data Grid - il vous apportera des objects et des handlers prêts à l'emploi. Cet outil est actuellement en construction. Une version française est prévue ;) Pour en savoir plus à propos de ce projet, je vous invite à lire la road map: http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=74:data-grid-helpercatid=41:tools-for-revolutionItemid=64 Je vous invite particulièrement à regarder la video de la palette Data Grid Helper en action. Cela pourra vous monter comment elle fonctionne. Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audio complementary library!)
Hi all, I am very interested in your requests, myself repeatedly mentioned the lack of Runrev about Audio. We have engineers that could create audio externals. It's the sort of thing though we don't have immediate need for internally though. We could do something using a platform like kickstarter to do it. The question would be, what features and how much? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audio complementary library!)
Hello Lynn, The basic Midi function could be (by example, : 1. Command PlayMidiNote (midiChannel,instrument,pitch,duration,velocity,pano,vibrato,reverb) with parameters : midiChannel = Midi channel number instrument = number of Midi instrument (General Midi § General Midi Drum other...) 0-127... pitch = note Midi : 0-127 duration = duration of the note in milliseconds velocity = volume of the note (QuickTime synthesizer) 0-127 pano = panoramic Midi 0-127 vibrato = vibrato effect Midi 0-127 reverb = reverberation effect Midi 0-127 2. Command PlayMidiChord(parameters : dito PlayMidiNote with pitch = array of notes) 3. Message Trap USB signal from a musical keyboard by example with parameters midiChannel,pitch,on/off... The latency must be 40 miliseconds This is a suggestion, I invite all RevTalkers to complete my proposal... Bon souvenir de Paris René Le 16 mai 2010 à 16:46, Lynn Fredricks a écrit : Hi all, I am very interested in your requests, myself repeatedly mentioned the lack of Runrev about Audio. We have engineers that could create audio externals. It's the sort of thing though we don't have immediate need for internally though. We could do something using a platform like kickstarter to do it. The question would be, what features and how much? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another DataGrid Question
Bonjour, I searched for a solution in case you don't know the number of the line I tested the following script (in a button) : local tIndex,tLineData,tName,tLine on mouseUp ask Which symbol? if the result is cancel then exit mouseUp put it into tSymbol dispatch FindIndex to grp datagrid with Symbol,tSymbol put the result into tIndex if tIndex 0 then put the dgDataOfIndex[tIndex] of grp datagrid into tLineData put tLineData[Securities] into fld fldResult -- or into a variable, or whatever else else answer There is no such symbol end if end mouseUp This might be done with FindLine and dgDataOfLine as well (instead of FindIndex and dgDataOfIndex) I tried to find a solution in case there might be several identical symbols in column 2, but without any success! (yet ;--)) Thanks Joe, for the training :-)) Best regards from Grenoble André Le 15 mai 10 à 22:48, zryip theSlug a écrit : 2010/5/15 lunchnme...@aol.com: Hi Everyone First of all thanks to Zryip for the answer to my last grid question. Now that problem is solved, but I have another. You're welcome ;) I have a dataGrid with 8 columns and 1000 rows. Knowing the data of a line of column 2, I need to retrieve the data of column 1 of that line. I don't want to change anything in the dataGrid while doing this. How is this best accomplished? If it helps Column 1 is titled Securities and column 2 is titled Symbol. Assuming that you know the number of the line, a possible way is to read the data of the line, then read the content of the column securities, like this: put the dgDataOfLine[tTheLine] of tMyDataGrid into tTheDataA put tTheDataA[securities] into tTheValueOfColumn1 Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN]The Data Grid Helper is on the road
zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com on May 16, 2010 at 6:49 AM -0700 wrote: I invite you especially to watch the video of the Data Grid Helper palette in action. It could give you a preview how it performs. This is excellent. I can't wait until you finish and release this. Please keep us up to date. ** Stewart Lynch CreaTECH Solutions sly...@createchsol.com 604.484.8499 Skype:StewartLynch There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't. ** This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you have received this communication by mistake, please notify us immediately. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audio complementary library!)
1. Multiple audio streams, multichannel possibilities 2. Edit window primitives (waveform drawing, edit points) 3. Good level metering hooks 4. RTAS Plugins 5. SMPTE Library 6. Support for OGG and Flac Building this stuff from scratch would be nuts - unless you're a great audio code scientist - and that stuff is for the machine language programmers. It still makes my brain hurt to think of the code that makes Pro Tools play 96 tracks on my old Dual 2.5 G5, with *plugins*! If I got a big audio project right now that required me to include audio editing, I might go out and investigate the offerings from Cycling 74 If you want to develop your own low-level audio algorithms, Max/MSP provides an ideal platform with its C-based API for new unit generators. Max takes care of file I/O and user interface construction as well. Another option for lower-level development is mxj~, a modular Java-based system for audio development. These guys have been in business for years. This stuff takes a lot of work, blown speakers, -- serious code that can easily lock up your machine. On the Mac side, perhaps a lot of what we want is already installed in Core Audio, Core Midi. Not sure of Win. So at the independent author level, I think a core audio plugin might be do-able, not sure of the copyright issues. Sadly, as Richard always asks:What's the ROI? On 16 May 2010 07:46, Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: Hi all, I am very interested in your requests, myself repeatedly mentioned the lack of Runrev about Audio. We have engineers that could create audio externals. It's the sort of thing though we don't have immediate need for internally though. We could do something using a platform like kickstarter to do it. The question would be, what features and how much? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Get size in bytes of object
I am able to get a file from disk, compress it, and encrypt it to save the protected file back to disk. What I want to do is make sure there is enough room on the disk to save it before I try. I don't see a command that gets the size of a variable or a specific item on disk. I am able to do the following: the diskspace --to get available disk space the long files -- gets size information for all files in a folder the size of an object -- only works for image, EPS, audioClip, videoClip, stack types of objects The user selects the file from anywhere on disk. I could use the long files but I would have to change the defaultFolder value to the new folder and then back again and then get the info for all the files just to get the one the user selected. Is there an easier way to do this? Is there a way to get the size of a variable in Rev? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get size in bytes of object
put the length of bills_var --- On Sun, 5/16/10, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: From: Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com Subject: Get size in bytes of object To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 12:25 PM I am able to get a file from disk, compress it, and encrypt it to save the protected file back to disk. What I want to do is make sure there is enough room on the disk to save it before I try. I don't see a command that gets the size of a variable or a specific item on disk. I am able to do the following: the diskspace --to get available disk space the long files -- gets size information for all files in a folder the size of an object -- only works for image, EPS, audioClip, videoClip, stack types of objects The user selects the file from anywhere on disk. I could use the long files but I would have to change the defaultFolder value to the new folder and then back again and then get the info for all the files just to get the one the user selected. Is there an easier way to do this? Is there a way to get the size of a variable in Rev? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hello, I have made a virtual keyboard where the user can move each key when holding controlKey. All is Ok, but I need to change geometry of each key to follow the bottom of the stack. (I want to open the keyboard on the bottom of my main stack) The user can still move each key but when I resize the keyboard stack , the key return to there previous vLocation. Can anybody help me with that ? Thanks, Jean-Pierre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Button drop down...
Hello, I have made a virtual keyboard where the user can move each key when holding controlKey. All is Ok, but I need to change geometry of each key to follow the bottom of the stack. (I want to open the keyboard on the bottom of my main stack) The user can still move each key but when I resize the keyboard stack , the key return to there previous vLocation. Can anybody help me with that ? Thanks, Jean-Pierre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
Paul D. DeRocco wrote: Alternatively, is there a way to know in advance how much to twiddle the vertical location by? It's 12 in my system, and I assume that's half the height of the non-existent menu bar, but I expect that varies depending upon the screen resolution or something-or-other, just as it would under Windows. There really ought to be a clean way to get a program to remember its window location without momentarily appearing at the wrong location whenever it's opened. It surprises me that the menu causes problems on the Mac (including all the weirdness about menu items being moved around) that don't occur on Windows, given that Rev is descended from Hypercard, a Mac program. Here is an explanation of how Rev menus work on Mac: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rraboutMenus.html Rev will scroll the top of the stack out of view by the height of the menubar. What appears to be 0,0 in the topleft corner is really more like 0,26 because the top section of the stack is out of view of the window frame. The default Rev menu height is 26, so if you set the stack to the screenloc you will see about what you describe: 13 pixels shorter at the top and another 13 shorter at the bottom. That's just how it works. When you set a menubar on Mac, the stack is visibly (but not really) shorter and its top and bottom edges on screen will be less than on Windows. If it is important that the top of the stack be at a particular location, then you can do what Jerry described: open the stack invisibly and adjust its location on openStack, then show it. All system messages are sent normally to stacks that are open invisibly. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button drop down...
My guess is that you are using the geometry manager in Rev? The geometry manager isn't that great, sadly, and it's much easier (and faster/more reliable!) to just do the work yourself. For example, in my card script I have something like so: on resizeStack updateGeometry end resizeStack on updateGeometry # re-resize/position all my controls here end updateGeometry It might seem like a bit of a hassle, because you have to constantly keep updating the code, etc. But trust me, once you start down this road, you'll love it - you can do a lot more and it executes a LOT faster. However, you may be in a position where you don't have the time to do this. In that case, you may want to take a look at the function revCacheGeometry. When you setup a control to use the geometry manager, Rev will cache where that control is supposed to be in relation to what's around it (or however you have it setup in the geometry manager). Regardless of where you move that control to, when Rev or you call revUpdateGeometry, the control will go right back to where it should be. To get around this, after you move the control, run revCacheGeometry, which should update the geometry manager's cache of where the control should be. Hope this helps, Jeff M. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jean-Pierre Soto jean-pierre.s...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Hello, I have made a virtual keyboard where the user can move each key when holding controlKey. All is Ok, but I need to change geometry of each key to follow the bottom of the stack. (I want to open the keyboard on the bottom of my main stack) The user can still move each key but when I resize the keyboard stack , the key return to there previous vLocation. Can anybody help me with that ? Thanks, Jean-Pierre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
Oh, please, RunRev gods working on the roadmap... can we *please* get this fixed finally? Menus - like unicode - should just work out of the box. Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audio complementary library!)
Hi all, Lynn Fredricks-2 wrote: We have engineers that could create audio externals. It's the sort of thing though we don't have immediate need for internally though. We could do something using a platform like kickstarter to do it. The question would be, what features and how much? Lynn, Could you produce plug-ins in two versions: basic and advanced? Basic versions would be cheap, (From US$10 to US$25) audio or video or OpenGL players/viewers with basic functions: (play, stop, pause, go next audio/movie/object, etc...). These basics functions requires minimal or no support from developers. Advanced versions (From US$200 to US$500) allows more detailed control of parameters, have many more commands and functions and complete support from developers. In my particular wish list, basic SWF Flash player and FLV Flash video player could be really useful. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/audio-Call-for-an-updated-enhanced-quicktime-audio-library-or-a-small-audio-complementary-library-tp2216458p2218796.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: searching for a put that opens message box
William, I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like put variable and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that I should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to find a put that doesn't have an into Here is a small Rev plugin that finds orphaned puts in any open stack you so designate. It was written by Eric Chatonet. Offered as is. It will also find other lines of code. Please put it in your plugins folder and launch it from there. www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
Jeff Massung wrote: Oh, please, RunRev gods working on the roadmap... can we *please* get this fixed finally? Menus - like unicode - should just work out of the box. I've never had much trouble with it, aside from the known bug where stacks with destroystack set don't always scroll correctly (I think that one is fixed for the next version but I can't remember.) Since Windows/Linux show menus in the stack window and Macs do not, it seems reasonable to just scroll the menu out of view on Macs. But if you don't like that, you can do it a different way. You can just hide the group if the platform is MacOS. That leaves a blank area at the top of the stack, but some people do it that way. Then there is no scrolling. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads
Actually, i hope that this feud between Apple and Adobe could bring more attention from Adobe to Linux and Mobile Platforms. If this is the final result of all this discussion, then everybody should said Thanks Steve! :D -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Adobe-s-New-Anti-Apple-Ads-tp2216622p2218875.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: That nice XML exporter for stacks...
Hi Andre, Will you update Geoff Canyon's stack? If so, please post a link to download this updated version. Recent versions of Rev added many new properties to objects. Thanks in advance! Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/That-nice-XML-exporter-for-stacks-tp2172738p2218887.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Looking for stack with Runrev Controls Test Suite
Hi all, I am looking for one or many stacks that demostrate the different configurations or/and effects that users could produce or create with different control types available in this platform. Check, for example, from a SVG compatible browser like Opera, Safari or Google Chrome the SVG test suite: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/20080912/htmlObjectHarness/index.html http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/20080912/htmlEmbedHarness/index.html Thanks in advance. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-stack-with-Runrev-Controls-Test-Suite-tp2218926p2218926.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN]The Data Grid Helper is on the road
2010/5/16 RevList revl...@createchsol.com: zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com on May 16, 2010 at 6:49 AM -0700 wrote: I invite you especially to watch the video of the Data Grid Helper palette in action. It could give you a preview how it performs. This is excellent. I can't wait until you finish and release this. Please keep us up to date. Thanks Stewart, and thanks for all the positives comments I received off-list. I just add a more convenient interface to edit properties like text style, margins, etc. Users can now edit properties directly in plain text or open a dialog to set the properties values: http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/images/stories/Preview/DGH_Project/DGH_Palette_Preview_02.png I prefer not precipitate things, to obtain something of quality, providing simplicity and flexibility. In the other side, to reach the goals I need constant feedback. A possible way could be presumably to follow the example of the Jerry's tRev script editor. The Data Grid Helper could be a constant project with regular updates. That way, users could give me constant feedback that would allow me to keep the simplicity on the track, and I could bring features more quickly than waiting a definitive product. However I have not the same experience than Jerry with that, and it is the very beginning of my project. But it is a possible way I have in mind. Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: player object and https URL
David Bovill da...@... writes: I've not tried this but if you can fetch the same url as data with: - put url \ https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov\ https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov I can download the data with put URL but how do I get that data into a player? I suppose I could download the file then open the file but that doesn't allow you to start playing the movie while downloading. I can set the filename to the HTTPS URL but the movie does not appear in the player as it does when you use an HTTP URL. I have entered it as a bug, #8773 Martin Koob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Using python
Hi, Out of interest, mainly because I am familiar and comfortable with Python, I have been trying to work through Bryan McCormick's revUp (50, June 6 2008) description of working with Python and numPy in Revolution. I installed ActivePython and NumPy 1.4.1. They work well together in the Python environment. So the install seems good. I then checked in Revolution as to whether Python was picked up as an alternate language. All clear there and I spent some time fiddling with Bryan's language checking functions just to make sure the language could be found from within a script- not just in checking from the message box. All good. Am happy. Then I went on and tried Bryan's check for the numpy version. The result, however, was alternate language not found. Hmm, not all is good. Am puzzled. Has anyone got any ideas on what I am missing here? Python is recognised as an alternate language. I called it using Python.AXScript.2 as indicated by Bryan. But something about actually asking it to do some work meant it lost whatever it said it had found previously. If someone has a good tutorial on working with Python from revtalk I would be interested in the link. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Using-python-tp2219010p2219010.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] (totally OT) on iPhone eQuality and iStupidities
Dear Steve, As the iconic defender of the highest possible quality in software, I wanted to express my sympathy and full support. However, I just faced an unconfortable evening in front of my 10 year old son, 9 year old daughter and beloved wife : they came accross the Love Champion iphone app that YOU market on YOUR store. This application claims you can easily time your love intercourse, compare your performances locally, within your town, and across the world. This has raised numerous questions from my children, anxiety to my wife and strange behaviour of my son (he asked for a penis-muscular course to compete). i'm now suffering severe sexual disconfort with my wife, who, I assume could at last compare my performance, worldwide. Many thanks Steve, I hope you will never suffer like this from YOUR apps! I also happen to have lost 6 months investment in developping an iPhone app on runrev mobile platform which you banned from YOUR apple store recently. Many thanks, again. I am now suffered severe desolation syndrom in the view of asking my banker a supplementary loan to move over to the Android platform. The application I was working on, was dedicated to old people who could use an iTablet to keep in touch with each others and their families. This is a growing problem in France maybe it is too in US. Your recent iapps policy makes no sense to me. I wish you would reconsider what is quality for apps, and how the app store should aim for quality. I humbly suggest you bring the iStupidity issue, on top priority, way above the technical qualities issues you raised against runrev. Faith lessly, yours, Robert p.s. feel free to copy this letter sent to Steve Jobs today. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-totally-OT-on-iPhone-eQuality-and-iStupidities-tp2219012p2219012.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: player object and https URL
Martin Koob wrote: David Bovill da...@... writes: I've not tried this but if you can fetch the same url as data with: - put url \ https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov\ https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov I can download the data with put URL but how do I get that data into a player? I suppose I could download the file then open the file but that doesn't allow you to start playing the movie while downloading. I can set the filename to the HTTPS URL but the movie does not appear in the player as it does when you use an HTTP URL. I have entered it as a bug, #8773 I know almost nothing about it so I probably shouldn't say anything, but don't you need some kind of certificate to access https pages? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads
Alejandro Tejada wrote: Actually, i hope that this feud between Apple and Adobe could bring more attention from Adobe to Linux and Mobile Platforms. I found this take on things interesting: Ubuntu wants Adobe, even if Apple doesn't I recently suggested that, given Apple and Adobe's growing war over iPad and iPhone applications, it would make sense for Adobe to move not only its end-user applications, but its Creative Suite development stack, to Linux. While I don't know if Adobe is considering it, Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu Linux, would welcome Adobe. Canonical marketing manager Gerry Carr told me that in a recent survey we did of the Ubuntu User base where we got 32,000 plus responses, Adobe Photoshop as a potential application for Ubuntu got a 3.52 rating out of 5 being the second most popular potential app after Skype. ... http://blogs.computerworld.com/15991/ubuntu_would_welcome_adobe_to_linux -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads
After Apple reduces Flash to a reasonably weak state, perhaps they'll have a change of heart toward the rest of us and lighten up some. Just a (probably naive) thought. -Mark http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/16/mefeedia_html5_survey/ Non-Flash video surges onto the web Maniacal chuckling at One Infinite Loop Steve Jobs is one-quarter of the way to victory in his increasingly heated take-no-prisoners assault on Adobe Flash. According to a survey conducted by video aggregator MeFeedia, 26 per cent of all web video is now available for playback with the HTML5 video tag and the H.264 codec. That means that 26 per cent of web video is now viewable on the iPhone/Pod/Pad. And, of course, Steve Jobs asserts that it's the most important 26 per cent. Alejandro Tejada wrote: Actually, i hope that this feud between Apple and Adobe could bring more attention from Adobe to Linux and Mobile Platforms. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
