Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Have you look at Quartz Composer ? Le 18 mai 2010 à 07:51, Nicolas Cueto a écrit : Have you checked QuickTime effects? I think Rev's QT effects are for card transitions only, but I'm looking for an image effect. Thanks all the same, Devin. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] (totally OT) on iPhone eQuality and iStupidities
Hi folks.. sorry that was just a little stupidity from me.. and I did suppress this silly msg yesterday from the list.. ok!? After all, it's up to pepole to choose what apps are interesting and if some buy the love champion app well.. it's not much worse than the fart app that started the iphone apps at some stage!!! Oh by the way.. it was pureely humoristic.. and It never cross my mind to actually send such a letter.. have a good day all.. and back to some more concrete stuff! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Re-OT-totally-OT-on-iPhone-eQuality-and-iStupidities-tp2220450p2220940.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
I saw a stack recently in revOnline that shows a nice page effect example, I think it is built with core graphics. CHeck it out. VisualEffects transitions by Bernd Niggemann some of the build in Quicktime and core image transitions of Rev for MacOs X Needs a graphic card 64 Mb and System 10.4 and above. For the core image transitions (I like curl which is a turning of a page, looks a bit like peeling the card off) some horespower is needed. Actually this shows, how to fake a core image effect for a transition. The core image effects operate on images. I wanted to use it for the card to card transition. To the rescue comes Revs snapshot. On these snapshots of the cards work the core image effects when going from card to card. I made this just to see if it could be done and since it came up on the forum I just uploaded it here. Although I think the big times of transitions are gone -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2220947.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audio complementary library!)
Thanks all for your contributions. I propose to set up somewhere a wiki page so that all interested parties can append a specification document with suggestions, reactions and so on.. ?? It sounds a good idea to set the boundaries between several levels of librairies and raw some specifications subsets consequently. In practice It can be a good way to start and see if things go well. Feedbacks : 1) Please do append at this stage with your ideas but do refer to fNumbers that should not change. If you add, add a fNumber. Yhanks. Current number of functions is : 18th may = 15 2) In a second time I'll turn that into a table so that we can all express what we need mostly 300% and have a braod and precise view of the situation. Basically we would have the following possibilities : --- Set1 - BASIC AUDIO trim functions, just to be able to record good quality sounds (Robert Maniquant) fa1 - fade in / fade out possibly auto-trim functions fa2 - cross mix fade in and out between two or more files. fa3 - normalization fa4 - a simple basic reverb/echo combined for voice/music with basic setting these functions should work on raw wave files as recorded by the runrev record function. To be complemented by an mp3 output (see later) --- Set2 - MIDI PLAY (rene Micout) f5 - Command PlayMidiNote (midiChannel,instrument,pitch,duration,velocity,pano,vibrato,reverb) with parameters : midiChannel = Midi channel number instrument = number of Midi instrument (General Midi § General Midi Drum other...) 0-127... pitch = note Midi : 0-127 duration = duration of the note in milliseconds velocity = volume of the note (QuickTime synthesizer) 0-127 pano = panoramic Midi 0-127 vibrato = vibrato effect Midi 0-127 reverb = reverberation effect Midi 0-127 f6 - Command PlayMidiChord(parameters : dito PlayMidiNote with pitch = array of notes) or chord name? (robert M) f7- midi Message Trap USB signal from a musical keyboard by example with parameters midiChannel,pitch,on/off... The latency must be 40 miliseconds Robert : the equality of midi sounds rests on using a good sound lib. So that should be controlled somehow. (set sound lib?) --- Set3 - extended pro AUDIO MIXING (stephen Barncard) f8. Multiple audio streams, multichannel possibilities Robert : interesting point, an audio stream lib, that could be compatible with revWeb too!? f9. Edit window primitives (waveform drawing, edit points) f10. Good level metering hooks robert : I think we do have these in revOnline, they work fine to view the output. f11. RTAS Plugins f12. SMPTE Library f13. Support for OGG and Flac --- Set4 - AUDIO PROGRAMING LIBRARIES f13 : open/save wave file content. Content poured into a data table, ready to deal with. Save back from the result table, empty copy of the input data table. Robert : could be basis for Set3 pro audio mixing, that could be done as much as possible direct in xTalk. --- Set0 - License free NON QUICKTIME AUDIO FRAMEWORK : a non quicktime, concurrent mac, windows and linux compliant audio framework, based on a license free format like org vorbis; with the runrev made installer to make this an ok road to develop apps without risking tons of support calls for that. f14- MP3 output : so far we have to use lame which is great, but, implies installing that on each computer... an included plugin would be much more simple and reduce risks of support issues Robert : I wonder if it could be possible to make an AAC export function license free if it is made available to the pulic, ei non commercial. I think it could work out. e.g. Runrev could not, but a non lucrative asociation could perhaps!? f15- simpler basic : a lame installer and checking utility -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/audio-Call-for-an-updated-enhanced-quicktime-audio-library-or-a-small-audio-complementary-library-tp2216458p2221011.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audio complementary library!)
Hello Robert, Le 18 mai 2010 à 11:54, Robert Mann a écrit : f6 - Command PlayMidiChord(parameters : dito PlayMidiNote with pitch = array of notes) or chord name? (robert M) Chord name is possibly a good thing, but it is better to have possibilities to contruct chords with a list of notes... There is conventional chords (Major, Monor, Seventh, etc.) and there is unconventional chords (all that remains to be invented and which, for the moment is not yet familiar to our ears) Bon souvenir de Paris René ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Robert Mann wrote: I saw a stack recently in revOnline that shows a nice page effect example, I think it is built with core graphics. CHeck it out. The effects were taken from the Core Image Sampler.rev stack in the Resources-Examples folder that ships with Rev (Mac version). They were just adapted for page transition using snapshots since core image effects work, well, on images. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2221049.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Thanks for the Mac advice, but I'm on Windows. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cloud computing: scalable DB
I'm looking into an application which needs a highly scaleable back end database. One with low up front costs and yet won;t fall over if it suddenly takes off. I've noticed Jerry and others describing On-Rev in terms of cloud storage - but AFAIK it is a simple shared host, and there are no services on offer with regard to scaling or true cloud computing? So - I am looking at using true cloud based database solutions. On-Rev would provide that administrative functions but web plugins on users own web sites would directly call the cloud computing backend. I'm looking to prototype this in revWeb and then implement the plugins in a suitable AJAX framework. It seems to be that this is now a reasonable approach to take given the existing state of these services - but I'm only reading about them and would love some feedback from others on the list. In particular I am looking at using Amazon - either their SimpleDBhttp://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2552categoryID=146, or their Relational Database Servicehttp://aws.amazon.com/rds/?ref_=pe_8050_15319810, but maybe also Google equivalent services? Anyone tried these - I've only used Amazon S3 for file storage to date? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
We need someone like Andre to help on this. I have had a similar problem with printing from the shell, the app prints, but if the shell command does not complete, it hangs, so would like to know the answer to the general question of how to get shell commands running in the background. I suspect you have to spin off the process to a separate stack, and call it from that with the opening of the second stack (which could be invisible of course). Then it will fire up and not affect the message flow in the first one. But that's just a guess. Andre could help us. Andre? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Playing-wav-sound-file-in-Linux-in-background-tp2220508p2221137.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can't save stack Error
List: In Revolution Studio 4.0.0-gm-1 I am trying to follow directions to center the answer and ask dialog boxes under windows to the center of the screen. To do this, I use Revolution's View Menu to Show the Revolution UI Elements in the List, and then use the Tools menu to Show the Application Browser . Select the Ask dialog and right-click on it and show it's script. In the preOpenCard handler, add the line set the loc of me to the screenLoc, and apply the change.. Do the same with the *Answer* dialog. Then close Revolution and when it asks if you ant to save the changes to stack Ask Dialog, select Save. Do the same with the *Answer* dialog. When I have completed this and tried to save the Ask Dialog I am getting an error: Can't save stack Ask Dialog due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the path file, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not finding where the stack backup file is located at? So I can check the permissions. Any Insight. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Very nice use of export snapshot with the Core Image Transitions, Bernd. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On May 18, 2010, at 6:18 AM, BNig wrote: Robert Mann wrote: I saw a stack recently in revOnline that shows a nice page effect example, I think it is built with core graphics. CHeck it out. The effects were taken from the Core Image Sampler.rev stack in the Resources-Examples folder that ships with Rev (Mac version). They were just adapted for page transition using snapshots since core image effects work, well, on images. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2221049.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't save stack Error
Graham, Try saving the stack in a different location, e.g. on your desktop or documents folder, and move it to the right place inside the Revolution folder, replacing the old answer and ask dialog stacks. You may need to quit Revolution and you also may beed to make sure to log in as admin before you can replace those files. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 18 mei 2010, at 14:08, Graham Pearson wrote: List: In Revolution Studio 4.0.0-gm-1 I am trying to follow directions to center the answer and ask dialog boxes under windows to the center of the screen. To do this, I use Revolution's View Menu to Show the Revolution UI Elements in the List, and then use the Tools menu to Show the Application Browser . Select the Ask dialog and right-click on it and show it's script. In the preOpenCard handler, add the line set the loc of me to the screenLoc, and apply the change.. Do the same with the *Answer* dialog. Then close Revolution and when it asks if you ant to save the changes to stack Ask Dialog, select Save. Do the same with the *Answer* dialog. When I have completed this and tried to save the Ask Dialog I am getting an error: Can't save stack Ask Dialog due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the path file, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not finding where the stack backup file is located at? So I can check the permissions. Any Insight. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
David, I've been looking at the same things. I am a user of Amazon S3 and I made tests with SDB as well (not from rev at this time). Depending on the data you want to store, you might want to check out the following noSQL databases: * CouchDB http://couchdb.apache.org/ * MongoDB http://www.mongodb.org/ (there's a mongo db hosting service at MongoHQ ) * Cassandra http://cassandra.apache.org/ * Riak http://riak.basho.com/ I think these are the future of storage for stuff that is not too relational. We don't have plugins/adaptors/code to link to any of those tools but if you're going to write yourself a plugin why not something like these? RDBMS are quite complex tools and sometimes they are used for the wrong job and then designing table schemas become like trying to teach an elephant to ice skate, if you're patient and wise enough, the elephant will eventually be able to ice skate but anyone looking into it will be at the same time amazed and afraid. I think most of the data we're trying to store these days is document based where we have something abstract which we call a document and this document have properties and fields where we store data or other documents such as an address book can have different entries and fields for different contacts. This kind of problem is easily solved with the above solutions and harder to code with plain old relational systems. Hope this is useful Cheers Andre On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:23 AM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote: I'm looking into an application which needs a highly scaleable back end database. One with low up front costs and yet won;t fall over if it suddenly takes off. I've noticed Jerry and others describing On-Rev in terms of cloud storage - but AFAIK it is a simple shared host, and there are no services on offer with regard to scaling or true cloud computing? So - I am looking at using true cloud based database solutions. On-Rev would provide that administrative functions but web plugins on users own web sites would directly call the cloud computing backend. I'm looking to prototype this in revWeb and then implement the plugins in a suitable AJAX framework. It seems to be that this is now a reasonable approach to take given the existing state of these services - but I'm only reading about them and would love some feedback from others on the list. In particular I am looking at using Amazon - either their SimpleDB http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2552categoryID=146 , or their Relational Database Servicehttp://aws.amazon.com/rds/?ref_=pe_8050_15319810, but maybe also Google equivalent services? Anyone tried these - I've only used Amazon S3 for file storage to date? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Thomas McGrath III-3 wrote: Very nice use of export snapshot with the Core Image Transitions, Bernd. Thank you Tom regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2221215.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Just for info.. I was impressed by the rendering, quality of turn page, but it takes its time in my macBook. Is it super fast elsewhere? I imagine the time to export the snap to hard disk then read back in, and then apply the effect. Could there be a way to save directly to a variable? Or to read and write nearly at same time with a dispatch message write, immediately followed by a dispatch message read?? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2221234.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
Thanks Andre: On 18 May 2010 13:18, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: * CouchDB http://couchdb.apache.org/ * MongoDB http://www.mongodb.org/ (there's a mongo db hosting service at MongoHQ ) * Cassandra http://cassandra.apache.org/ * Riak http://riak.basho.com/ I think it is only really Amazon SimpleDB and Google App engine that offer automatic cloud-based scaleability? Perhaps MongoDB - but I like the idea of going with a big player on this. At the moment it seems that SimpleDB is offered optimally in different regions, and I am not quite sure yet how you would offer global access based on a single data source offered in all regions (with SimpleDB the regional instances are seperate stores) - maybe AppEngine??? For now I think unless you want to write in Python code as well it is better to use SimpleDB from Rev - that way you can access it from Desktop as well as webApps. Also interesting though more expensive is the idea of using MySQL (sqlLite locally) and being able to move over to Amazon RDShttp://aws.amazon.com/running_databases/#rdsfor scalability - but you only need that for complex DB's I think. This is a really good read and recent review at InfoWorldhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/data-management/slacker-databases-break-all-the-old-rules-599?page=0,7 . I think most of the data we're trying to store these days is document based where we have something abstract which we call a document and this document have properties and fields where we store data or other documents such as an address book can have different entries and fields for different contacts. This kind of problem is easily solved with the above solutions and harder to code with plain old relational systems. I particularly like the idea of not having to get into complex relational db design, but using simple parallel tables and doing the joins in the application layer ( ie revTalk) - seems the way to go to me - if you can break the data into object-like chinks where your parallel queries retrieve small quantities of data that you use revTalk to massage - sounds great. Not for banks maybe - but for most of the rest of use cases. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Robert, it is not super fast, the snapshots are saved to a variable, no disk access. --- export snapshot from this card to tTarget as png set the text of image TargetImage to tTarget --- Part of it is that you take 2 snapshots, one from the present card and one of the card to go to. That takes time, plus a little time for the core image effects to kick in. Smaller objects are faster. regards Bernd Robert Mann wrote: Just for info.. I was impressed by the rendering, quality of turn page, but it takes its time in my macBook. Is it super fast elsewhere? I imagine the time to export the snap to hard disk then read back in, and then apply the effect. Could there be a way to save directly to a variable? Or to read and write nearly at same time with a dispatch message write, immediately followed by a dispatch message read?? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2221249.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
On 18/5/10 4:04 PM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv wrote: Hi All, * I wonder if anybody from you going to setup your own 1000 computer-servers cluster(s)? Like this must do Google and Amazon If not - then excuse me, guys you have completely different tasks than google. * Andrea Garcia points few key-value dbs. Okay, I have jump to Riak, Have overview its API, have try to read about Query Language ... https://wiki.basho.com/display/RIAK/Loading+Data+and+Running+MapReduce+Quer ies And it not looks for me clear ... Easy for development ... Even near easy as SQL ... * If somebody DREAMs about API-level access to db data without SQL, welcome to Valentina DB, which provides not only SQL, but **very reach** API to work with data on low level actually, about 1000 methods in 40-50 classes. I particularly like the idea of not having to get into complex relational db design, but using simple parallel tables and doing the joins in the application layer ( ie revTalk) - seems the way to go to me - if you can break the data into object-like chinks where your parallel queries retrieve small quantities of data that you use revTalk to massage - sounds great. Not for banks maybe - but for most of the rest of use cases. * As for me this sounds like usage of API Level ... But it is NOT always great as you may think. You really want write in your app layer joins??? In hundreds of places? Or you will write it once? But then sense? You will just invent a bike which exists for years in SQL engines... And I thin mature SQL engines will do this job much better than you will be ... Than more in not super-fast REV layer. So for me personally this wow-Key-value-clouds thread sounds somehow strange :-) Once again, that tools are only and only for companies which really establish incredible by count computer clusters... Do you? ** But if you do not like Relational model, if you do not like SQL, Again, Welcome to Valentina DB, which provide * Relational model * Object Relational model * Navigational model (remember dbVista?) And all these models can be used in both SQL and pure API way. P.S. We - recommend to use API way, mainly for development of apps which work with local dbs. Then you MAY see speed ups comparing to SQL, because you CAN do hard-coding of algs in your app layer code because YOU KNOW some special things about your app. Thanks Andre: On 18 May 2010 13:18, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: * CouchDB http://couchdb.apache.org/ * MongoDB http://www.mongodb.org/ (there's a mongo db hosting service at MongoHQ ) * Cassandra http://cassandra.apache.org/ * Riak http://riak.basho.com/ I think it is only really Amazon SimpleDB and Google App engine that offer automatic cloud-based scaleability? Perhaps MongoDB - but I like the idea of going with a big player on this. At the moment it seems that SimpleDB is offered optimally in different regions, and I am not quite sure yet how you would offer global access based on a single data source offered in all regions (with SimpleDB the regional instances are seperate stores) - maybe AppEngine??? For now I think unless you want to write in Python code as well it is better to use SimpleDB from Rev - that way you can access it from Desktop as well as webApps. Also interesting though more expensive is the idea of using MySQL (sqlLite locally) and being able to move over to Amazon RDShttp://aws.amazon.com/running_databases/#rdsfor scalability - but you only need that for complex DB's I think. This is a really good read and recent review at InfoWorldhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/data-management/slacker-databases-break-a ll-the-old-rules-599?page=0,7 . I think most of the data we're trying to store these days is document based where we have something abstract which we call a document and this document have properties and fields where we store data or other documents such as an address book can have different entries and fields for different contacts. This kind of problem is easily solved with the above solutions and harder to code with plain old relational systems. I particularly like the idea of not having to get into complex relational db design, but using simple parallel tables and doing the joins in the application layer ( ie revTalk) - seems the way to go to me - if you can break the data into object-like chinks where your parallel queries retrieve small quantities of data that you use revTalk to massage - sounds great. Not for banks maybe - but for most of the rest of use cases. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: player object and https URL
J. Landman Gay jac...@... writes: I know almost nothing about it so I probably shouldn't say anything, but don't you need some kind of certificate to access https pages? Hi, I thought so too and there is the command sslcertificates which the dictionary says is to set the list of files and folders to search for ssl certificates. However if I set the file name of an image object to an https URL the image will load without me specifying sslcertificates. This is what made me think that I don't need to use the sslcertificates command Also if I use revbrowser it will open https sites and it will open a movie hosted on an https page. So RevBrowswer is handling https sites without me specifying the path to ssl certificates. I am not sure if it is a bug that the https URL doesn't work in the player or if there is something that I am supposed to do in terms of handling or providing the path to the ssl certificates on the computer. I am just learning about this so I have been experimenting with a few things. I tried open secure socket to www.mysecuresite.com:443 with message wasConnected this opens the socket which i can see with answer the opensockets() This shows the socket forwww.mysecuresite.com:443 as open Still after I open the socket when I set the filename of the player to a movie on the secure site no movie is loaded in the player Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
Ruslan, Thanks for dropping in the thread. One thing that I think is stopping some rev developers moving to valentina is that there's no valentina server for revServer. The FREE Valentina server has adaptors only for ruby and php, if we had RevServer support or at least a public available protocol to talk to valentina server then we could implement support in RevServer itself. I think that David is doing some web development since most of the uses of SimpleDB and RDS are related to web apps. Right now, we can't do web development with valentina and rev. Which is a pitty since valentina is deadly fast and provides the key-value stuff. I too believe that no one here will reach the limit of a single server. I am working right now on a system which has one database with 6 thousand tables and millions and millions of records and it still a single mysql server. And before you all curse me, I didn't design this stuff, I arrived at it after THREE earlier programmers, I would never design anything with 6 thousand tables... I think the most attractive points of SimpleDB are: * Easy setup. You just sign up and it's there. * Dead easy API makes it quite easy to integrate. As for RDS: * No need to maintain your own server farm * Useful for big guys with big requirements * Useful for those that can't use a traditional RDBMS on their server, for example guys using Heroku might want to use RDS since it is cheaper then using Herokus RDBMS add-ons. Now, if Paradigma Soft was to enter some agreement with RunRev team to have Valentina Server deployed in the On-Rev cloud not only everyones life would be easier but you might also see some new customers since the ability to code once for one DB and use the same code in desktop apps and web app, would reduce the costs of development and increase ROI (this is me channeling Richard). What most users want here is just some kind of persistance and minimal querying. Many here don't even do joins or views or fancy SQL stuff. What people need is an easy way to make a little persistence and querying. Which I think valentina might be a cool solution. Cheers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for anupdated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audiocomplementary library!)
Hi all, f6 - Command PlayMidiChord(parameters : dito PlayMidiNote with pitch = array of notes) or chord name? (robert M) We need to get something off our plate first but, I wonder if MIDI is necessarily something to bundle in with everything else. Im sure we'd be looking at some available C/C++ libraries like we did with Franklin 3D, and if present that would make a difference. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
A cached version?? thanks for the info! Yeah I guess to optimize things on a stack one could cache the images of static cards. Thus running a script to that effect, and modifying the effect script to look for a cached version first hand, and only take a snapshot if none is found. I do not think that effects are a gone by things, quite the contrary.. all the sleek page transitions we see on iphone set the path, and it is an important aspect to the user experience. SO yes I think it is importatn to set up an efficient way to do it! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2221427.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cloud computing: scalable DB
on Tue May 18 06:23:14 CDT 2010, David Bovill wrote: I'm looking into an application which needs a highly scalable back end database. David, have you checked out Microsoft's Azure cloud services? http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/sqlazure/ Here's some info I copied from that page: SQL Azure Database Features === Relational Database Management Services (RDBMS) - Creating, accessing and manipulating tables, views, indexes, roles, stored procedures, triggers, and functions - Execute complex queries and joins across multiple tables - Insert, Update, and Delete - Constraints - Transactions - Temp tables - Basic functions (aggregates, math, string, date/time) - A subset of the existing SQL Server built-in stored procedures and system views - Support for tracking billable metrics in real time and for historical analysis Programmability - Managed ADO.NET data access - Native ODBC *** - Support for PHP Tools - Deployment Support for running SQL configuration scripts via SQLCMD - Provision Logical Servers and Databases through the SQL Azure Database account portal There's a Get Started Now link near the left/top side of the page. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Cloud computing: scalable DB
Hi Andre, Thanks for dropping in the thread. One thing that I think is stopping some rev developers moving to valentina is that there's no valentina server for revServer. The FREE Valentina server has adaptors only for ruby and php, if we had RevServer support or at least a public available protocol to talk to valentina server then we could implement support in RevServer itself. You are talking about the RevServer in On-Rev, right? Right now, we have server-side Clients that get installed into the installs of PHP (for example) that allow PHP on the server to interact in a native way with Valentina Server (Office and Free). I am not sure if it works the same way with RevServer or not, or if RevServer allows for third party externals in a similar way to the desktop variety (or possible to do the server-side client like we do with PHP). We've started a conversation a few times with Runrev (just cc'd someone because I know we've both lost track of the conversation, thanks for reminding me) but it might be worth pushing that forward a bit now, especially if RevServer becomes a customer installable product. The Free Valentina Server is a special licensed beast for academics and academic institutions. If you are involved with either, its worth checking out. Its different from the restrictions with MySQL (we think better overall, but that's my opinion ;-)). Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
On 18/5/10 4:48 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Hi Andre, Thanks for dropping in the thread. One thing that I think is stopping some rev developers moving to valentina is that there's no valentina server for revServer. The FREE Valentina server has adaptors only for ruby and php, if we had RevServer support or at least a public available protocol to talk to valentina server then we could implement support in RevServer itself. As revServer you mean this? http://www.on-rev.com/home/ Why you talk about Valentina Free Server? Why cannot be used Valentina Office Server? I think that David is doing some web development since most of the uses of SimpleDB and RDS are related to web apps. Right now, we can't do web development with valentina and rev. Which is a pitty since valentina is deadly fast and provides the key-value stuff. Why you can't? Any OS platform. You install VSERVER, make your REV app. Host them together. What problems? Plus the same VSERVER can be touched by any other Valentina Client from C++, C#, ObjC ... To PHP, RB, REV, Director, ShockWave, ... I too believe that no one here will reach the limit of a single server. I am working right now on a system which has one database with 6 thousand tables and millions and millions of records and it still a single mysql server. And before you all curse me, I didn't design this stuff, I arrived at it after THREE earlier programmers, I would never design anything with 6 thousand tables... That is cool :) 2 weeks ago I have to hear about man with 1000 tables.. You have new record :) Now, if Paradigma Soft was to enter some agreement with RunRev team to have Valentina Server deployed in the On-Rev cloud not only everyones life would be easier but you might also see some new customers since the ability to code once for one DB and use the same code in desktop apps and web app, would reduce the costs of development and increase ROI (this is me channeling Richard). This is question to top-managers :) What most users want here is just some kind of persistance and minimal querying. Many here don't even do joins or views or fancy SQL stuff. To keep e.g. Prefs? For this exists ini, xml files :) RDBMS is really not required here. What people need is an easy way to make a little persistence and querying. Which I think valentina might be a cool solution. Well, I can say that Europe AOL team have test Valentina 9 months ago to be used as AD-search key value service. Right now they seems to be on Berkly yet. And of course they have used C++ way. Valentina have win as they have told. In the same resources of RAM and hardware Valentina did produce zero time outs while others did produce failures of searches. And searches was really very simple key/value. Word - AD picture... 1 record in result. Unfortunately economic crisis have prevent that project so far. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for anupdated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audiocomplementary library!)
Indeed the Midi functions are specific and can be a separate library ... Bon souvenir de Paris René Le 18 mai 2010 à 16:23, Lynn Fredricks a écrit : Hi all, f6 - Command PlayMidiChord(parameters : dito PlayMidiNote with pitch = array of notes) or chord name? (robert M) We need to get something off our plate first but, I wonder if MIDI is necessarily something to bundle in with everything else. Im sure we'd be looking at some available C/C++ libraries like we did with Franklin 3D, and if present that would make a difference. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
Not sure if this would help but Mark Smith created a Rev library for working with S3: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-libS3-td326689.html#a326 689 Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, David Bovill wrote: I'm looking into an application which needs a highly scaleable back end database. One with low up front costs and yet won;t fall over if it suddenly takes off. I've noticed Jerry and others describing On-Rev in terms of cloud storage - but AFAIK it is a simple shared host, and there are no services on offer with regard to scaling or true cloud computing? So - I am looking at using true cloud based database solutions. On-Rev would provide that administrative functions but web plugins on users own web sites would directly call the cloud computing backend. I'm looking to prototype this in revWeb and then implement the plugins in a suitable AJAX framework. It seems to be that this is now a reasonable approach to take given the existing state of these services - but I'm only reading about them and would love some feedback from others on the list. In particular I am looking at using Amazon - either their SimpleDB http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2552cat egoryID=146 , or their Relational Database Servicehttp://aws.amazon.com/rds/?ref_=pe_8050_15319810, but maybe also Google equivalent services? Anyone tried these - I've only used Amazon S3 for file storage to date? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audio complementary library!)
I think the below should be added to Set1 - BASIC AUDIO trim functions *f16 - load, save and play audio from a variable* Imagine an array with sounds! Echo/Reverb, IMHO, is hard to do well and be efficient at the same time. Most likely would be cheesy anyway, and this should be saved for plugins. If one is talking about fading in fading out, crossfade, etc then we have to have this one at the start f17 - multiple asynchronous audio streams stream meaning an individual thread of sound, not necessarily an internet stream. I thought I saw a mention of some audio functions being done in RevTalk. I'd say that wouldn't be possible - audio is real-time and binary. One other mention - *Digital audio is dangerous when it runs wild.* The worst case is a blast of digital noise at full scale, which is many db above the usual operating level. Some users of DAW software have heard this occasionally - I myself have experienced this when running Digital Performer on a drive that ran out of space while recording - It's the worst noise I've ever heard, and the most painful and you NEVER want to experience it. It can easily blow ears, headphones and speakers, mostly tweeters. I would suggest to any of those out there considering writing code for audio for the first time to make sure your monitoring system and your ears are protected - get a cheap audio limiter to put across the audio output for testing, so it absorbs the increase in level when things get out of hand - and they always will if you are messing with the bits, just like code crashes during development. Just expect it. The people that commercial audio software like Digidesign have to be continually on the lookout for Full Scale Output and take strenuous steps to make sure it NEVER HAPPENS. Imagine doing an overdub with headphones on and then this ear-splitting noise happens when they punch into record. Ouch. One more issue is sample rate. We've reached an audio plateau at 24 bits/ 96k sample rate. This is 120 db of dynamic range, folks, with a sample rate that allows easier filtering, and disk usage that is reasonable. 120 db, by the way, is waay below the actual noise floor of the surrounding analog electronics! I know of very few people that record with bit width beyond 24, or samples beyond 96k. This means one can record transients detectable up to 44khz ! Faster sample rates are more demanding of processing resources without that much sonic improvement. It's cool to say that your DAW can 'do' 192k, but at the loss of how many tracks? For that reason, limits should be set now to target the 24/96 ceiling and not worry about performance at rates beyond that. Nobody uses it. sqb On 18 May 2010 02:54, Robert Mann r...@free.fr wrote: Thanks all for your contributions. I propose to set up somewhere a wiki page so that all interested parties can append a specification document with suggestions, reactions and so on.. ?? It sounds a good idea to set the boundaries between several levels of librairies and raw some specifications subsets consequently. In practice It can be a good way to start and see if things go well. Feedbacks : 1) Please do append at this stage with your ideas but do refer to fNumbers that should not change. If you add, add a fNumber. Yhanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [ANN] NativeGeometry 2 OPEN BETA, the ultimate geometry manager for Revolution is here for free!
Hello, I will try to answer to all your questions :) To answer to Jerome (in English): Bonne et mauvaise nouvelle ! Avez-vous des précisions concernant la création d'applications multilingues avec NativeGeometry 2.0 ? Vous indiquez que NativeSpeak 1.x ne va plus évoluer et vous mentionnez NativeSpeak 2.0 ? Jérôme Good and bad news ! Do you have any precisions about the multilingual application creation with NativeGeometry 2.0 ? You told that NativeSpeak 1.x will not evolve and you say NativeSpeak 2.0 ? NativeGeometry 2.0 will must be used in order to have NativeSpeak 2.0 working properly, let me explain: - In NativeSpeak 1.x, you were designing your application to be localized, with the geometry manager and the localization manager. NativeSpeak 1.x was developed for Revolution 2.2 originally, and there was not multi-dimensional arrays and few other really cool stuff, that was why it was using xml databases, the result was that it was working well, but was a bit hard to use and to implement. - In NativeSpeak 2.0 and NativeGeometry 2.0, you will design your application with NativeGeometry 2.0, that is far far better than the NativeSpeak 1.x geometry manager. Then, once your application has been designed with NativeGeometry 2.0, NativeSpeak 2.0 will parse your stacks, and with it you will generate languages files, then in your application you will just have to load those languages files and voila, your application will be multi-language! The main advantage is that the localization process is far less more intrusive than NativeSpeak 1.x, you develop your application in one and only one language, then you localize. You told that NativeSpeak 1.x will not evolve and you say NativeSpeak 2.0 ? NativeSpeak 2.0 will be released, the release date is not planned, but I will try to get it working as fast as possible. - I was actually going to BUY a license, even though you are still in Beta, just to support what appears to be an excellent and much needed tool, but alas, there is nothing in your storefront that allows me to do so. I noticed that your screenshots are of a vista/win7 look. Just to be sure, may I assume this will work with Macs as well as Windows? Thanks Bob, I am glad to hear that :) I am seeing with my partner Runtime Revolution Ltd to have NativeGeometry in the store, in few days it should be ok. About the screenshot, the application was developed for Windows, but it should work like all our other products, like a charm :) If you notice any problem on MacOS do not hesitate to report them to the bugtracker ! - About the NativeGeometry 2.0 Zip package broken link, it should be fixed. - If you have more question, I will be pleased to answer ! Kind Regards, Damien Girard NativeSoft, France. http://www.nativesoft.net -Message d'origine- De : use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] De la part de Damien Girard Envoyé : lundi 17 mai 2010 18:16 À : use-revolution@lists.runrev.com; 'Improvements to Revolution' Objet : [ANN] NativeGeometry 2 OPEN BETA, the ultimate geometry manager for Revolution is here for free! Dear Runtime Revolution user, I am proud to announce you the OPEN BETA release of NativeGeometry 2.0! NativeGeometry is our latest extension for Runtime Revolution, it is an enhanced Geometry Manager that help you to develop faster cross-platform applications, multi-languages application or simply your applications, with the ease of the use of the Revolution Geometry manager but with the power and the speed like if you were writing your own scripts! To check-out more in depth its features, go to the NativeGeometry website: http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry - - OPEN PUBLIC BETA We are inviting everybody to try this new tool, NativeGeometry is now in beta stage, and in order to have the best quality, we are inviting all of you to try freely without any limitations NativeGeometry! If you find any problems, simply report them to the NativeSoft bug tracker. The NativeGeometry open beta is ending the 14 junes 2010, and the final release is to be expected at this date :) More information, download links and sample are on the NativeSoft website: http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry - Also, you can ask Why NativeGeometry 2.0? Where is 1.0?, the answer is simple: - NativeGeometry 1.0 was the NativeSpeak Create 1.0 Geometry manager, so NativeGeometry is in version 2.0 as it is a complete rewrite from scratch, with new incredible features! - Other news about Dam-pro: - NativeSoft I am pleased to inform you that Dam-pro has been renamed NativeSoft, this new name match better with our Native products lines, and in the future with the upcoming NativeSpeak 2.0, and I prefer
Reading the Supercard manual #1
How about this: The SuperScript utility allows you to almost instantaneously export all or some of the scripts of your project to text or RTF formatted files. ? Can one do this in RunRev? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com on May-18-10 at 10:26 AM -0700 wrote: The SuperScript utility allows you to almost instantaneously export all or some of the scripts of your project to text or RTF formatted files. ? Not that I am aware of, but have you checked out this? http://www.createchsol.com/ScriptReporter ** Stewart Lynch CreaTECH Solutions sly...@createchsol.com 604.484.8499 Skype:StewartLynch There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't. ** This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you have received this communication by mistake, please notify us immediately. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
Richmond Mathewson wrote: How about this: The SuperScript utility allows you to almost instantaneously export all or some of the scripts of your project to text or RTF formatted files. ? Can one do this in RunRev? Sure. Why not? Just loop through the scripts and save them out to text files (I'm sure that's what the rev reporter stack does.) Saving as RTF would be harder now that Rev uses on the fly colorization. In the past you could have grabbed the html custom prop version, but that's no longer created (for which we are grateful.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
Richmond Mathewson wrote: How about this: The SuperScript utility allows you to almost instantaneously export all or some of the scripts of your project to text or RTF formatted files. ? Can one do this in RunRev? Why not? It's just getting scripts and writing them out with object descriptors to a text file. Tedious to write, but not atom-splitting. I used to write dumpers every time I picked up another xTalk, but after while it occurred to me that I never actually do anything with the dumps. They're boring to read, and for working with code I find it far more helpful to work with it in vivo, so I've put the time into things like script search tools instead. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: Can one do this in RunRev? Sure. Why not? Richard Gaskin wrote: Why not? I have simply got to fix the reverb in this email software. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: player object and https URL
Martin Koob wrote: However if I set the file name of an image object to an https URL the image will load without me specifying sslcertificates. This is what made me think that I don't need to use the sslcertificates command I'm not sure about this one, we need a guru. Also if I use revbrowser it will open https sites and it will open a movie hosted on an https page. So RevBrowswer is handling https sites without me specifying the path to ssl certificates. I know in this case it isn't Rev handling the browser, it's webkit or IE. Rev just displays an instance of the OS browser, so that's what handles certificates in that case. I am not sure if it is a bug that the https URL doesn't work in the player or if there is something that I am supposed to do in terms of handling or providing the path to the ssl certificates on the computer. That's why we need a guru. I'm weak in this area too. I am just learning about this so I have been experimenting with a few things. I tried open secure socket to www.mysecuresite.com:443 with message wasConnected this opens the socket which i can see with answer the opensockets() This shows the socket forwww.mysecuresite.com:443 as open Well, sockets are a different animal. I think you're on the right track questioning the url library. Sorry I don't know more. Did you try checking the QCC for similar reports? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: player object and https URL
J. Landman Gay jac...@... writes: I know almost nothing about it so I probably shouldn't say anything, but don't you need some kind of certificate to access https pages? I am just hacking around here but I tried this I created a 'certificates' folder Then I opened my website in Safari then clicked on the lock to show the certificates Then I dragged three certificates that are sown into that folder which created two .cer files and one .crt file in the folder then I used the 'set the sslcertificates' command to set the path to that folder That did not work Then I opened the site in firefox and then exported the certificates into the certificates folder. This still did not work. Again not sure what I am doing here so if there is an obvious error or flaw in the approach let me know. I also tried libUrlSetSSLVerification false This did not solve the problem either. I am trying this on Mac OS X 10.5.8 and I noticed from searching other posts that the was a problem with SSL on the mac. Is this still true? I have also noticed inconsistent behavior with setting the filename of the image object to an https url. Originally it worked. Since I have been trying the other commands to solve the player object issue the image on the https site does not always load. However if I use libUrlSetSSLVerification false the image will load. Thanks in advance for any help. Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
John Patten wrote: Hi All... I've been having a problem playing back an audio file on a Linux computer using an arecord a shell script to first create the audio file. The audio file gets created on the local machine, it then gets uploaded to an ftp directory, however when I go to play the sound file locally using just Rev it's just static white noise. This is a typical symptom of playing back a file format that Rev doesn't support. You can't use any kind of compressed file format. Try re-recording using an uncompressed format, preferably saving as .au for Linux playback if possible. I'm not sure, even so, whether Rev will wait for the whole file to arrive before playing it. I suspect it will. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
Richard- Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 10:59:01 AM, you wrote: I used to write dumpers every time I picked up another xTalk, but after while it occurred to me that I never actually do anything with the dumps. They're boring to read, and for working with code I find it far more helpful to work with it in vivo, so I've put the time into things like script search tools instead. That's my take on this, too. cutting down the reverb time Why? Richmond- why do you want to do this? Do you have something in mind? Maybe there's a different approach than creating text or rtf files... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
On 18/05/2010 21:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: John Patten wrote: Hi All... I've been having a problem playing back an audio file on a Linux computer using an arecord a shell script to first create the audio file. The audio file gets created on the local machine, it then gets uploaded to an ftp directory, however when I go to play the sound file locally using just Rev it's just static white noise. This is a typical symptom of playing back a file format that Rev doesn't support. You can't use any kind of compressed file format. Try re-recording using an uncompressed format, preferably saving as .au for Linux playback if possible. That seems needlessly bothersome (re-recording); I would be inclined to convert them using Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ I'm not sure, even so, whether Rev will wait for the whole file to arrive before playing it. I suspect it will. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
On 18/05/2010 21:15, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 10:59:01 AM, you wrote: I used to write dumpers every time I picked up another xTalk, but after while it occurred to me that I never actually do anything with the dumps. They're boring to read, and for working with code I find it far more helpful to work with it in vivo, so I've put the time into things like script search tools instead. That's my take on this, too. cutting down the reverb time Why? Richmond- why do you want to do this? Do you have something in mind? Maybe there's a different approach than creating text or rtf files... I don't; but everytime I have a peep into a competitor's manual I see things which RunRev doesn't have, and wonder if RunRev might be better off if it did. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reading the HyperNext manual #1
http://www.tigabyte.com/docs/LanguageReference.pdf There are five dedicated sound channels and any sound or music file must be allocated to a channel. The idea of having sound channels so that 2 or more sounds can be played simultaneously comes up here from time to time; but never seems to get anywhere. Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
It may be bothersome to re-encode, but one does not get better quality by decoding then saving as uncompressed. If the files are going to be full size, why not take advantage of the better quality by 're-encoding'. On 18 May 2010 11:24, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 18/05/2010 21:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: John Patten wrote: Hi All... I've been having a problem playing back an audio file on a Linux computer using an arecord a shell script to first create the audio file. The audio file gets created on the local machine, it then gets uploaded to an ftp directory, however when I go to play the sound file locally using just Rev it's just static white noise. This is a typical symptom of playing back a file format that Rev doesn't support. You can't use any kind of compressed file format. Try re-recording using an uncompressed format, preferably saving as .au for Linux playback if possible. That seems needlessly bothersome (re-recording); I would be inclined to convert them using Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ I'm not sure, even so, whether Rev will wait for the whole file to arrive before playing it. I suspect it will. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mobile Template for Iphone/Ipad/Android Version Alpha 004a : new 18 May
Revision Alpha 004a from 18 May: -Multi-Language -Manage visible/hide for fields -Some modifications based on Iphone look -Optimization existing code -Centralized function in MainStack, goal to use same function from different stack, write once your code and use it for Iphone stack, Ipad stack, Android stack and so... Revision Alpha 003 from 28 April: -Splash screen react diferently if you are on IPad/Iphone or in dev -Save/Read configuration file on your IPhone/IPad This version is a template which could help you to prepare the structure of a mobile application, for using it on mobile you need RevMobile. In parallel I'm starting the Mobile Template Generator which will generate this kind of template. Be free to email me some issues, ideas, new features to : fabrice.mul...@me.com I will post more informations on : http://fmuller.posterous.com/ Thanks, Fabrice *** F.LA.M.A Fabrice Muller Phone : +41 (21) 652.18.10 - Fax : +41 (21) 652.18.24 fmuller.fl...@gmail.com fabrice.mul...@pobox.com - fabricemul...@me.com *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
He has a solution, surely, it is to do it from the shell. His problem is that when he goes out to the shell, it does not then play in the background. If he calls the shell command from a separate stack, will it not then leave the original stack to just go on? So the effect will be to play in the background, and leave the user free to interact with the main stack? Of course, he'll have to handle error conditions in the second stack. This had never occurred to me till he wrote in, but it might be the solution to my printing problem. The problem is similar. You call the shell command to print, using lp, but if the printer is offline, everything freezes until it comes back online and can complete. But if the print command were to take place from a separate stack, presumably the top stack would just carry on running having passed over the shell command to the second one? Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Playing-wav-sound-file-in-Linux-in-background-tp2220508p2221738.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Robert, I did a quick test on a cached version. Caching does indeed speed things up considerably. On a MacBook Pro 2.33 GHz the uncached version took about 700 milliseconds to get the two snapshots of the cards (731 by 744 pixel), having cached the images in a custom property took about 100 milliseconds. 100 milliseconds is barely noticeable and might work. Although this would only work on static cards as you say and it bloats the stack. regards Bernd Robert Mann wrote: A cached version?? thanks for the info! Yeah I guess to optimize things on a stack one could cache the images of static cards. Thus running a script to that effect, and modifying the effect script to look for a cached version first hand, and only take a snapshot if none is found. I do not think that effects are a gone by things, quite the contrary.. all the sleek page transitions we see on iphone set the path, and it is an important aspect to the user experience. SO yes I think it is importatn to set up an efficient way to do it! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2221740.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev audio clips
Hi all, After learning about the binary string produced by compress(), i am curious to know if one of the professional audio experts in this platform have examined the converted audio clips that Rev uses internally, after importing an audio file. By trial and error, you could isolate the audio binary string from a saved stack. Then, analize and compare with the original imported audio clip, saved in different audio formats. Thanks in advance! Alejandro ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev audio clips
On 18/05/2010 22:17, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi all, After learning about the binary string produced by compress(), i am curious to know if one of the professional audio experts in this platform have examined the converted audio clips that Rev uses internally, after importing an audio file. By trial and error, you could isolate the audio binary string from a saved stack. Oh Yuck! I made a new stack ZOUND and imported an AIFF sound ZND.aiff into it. I then cracked both the stack and the sound file open with HexEdit: http://hexedit.sourceforge.net/ and could NOT find the 'audio binary string' in the stack. Maybe I went about things the wrong way . . . :) Then, analize and compare with the original imported audio clip, saved in different audio formats. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Adding to standard dialogs
There is no way to add to the present ask and answer dialogs. But there's nothing to prevent you from making your own! See the dialogdata in the documentation for methods to send data back and forth between your custom dialog window and your application. You get and set the dialogdata (a global property) as you please. I don't even think there is any reason why you could not use an array. I would recommend having all your dialog windows as cards in a special stack. You can lock the screen, open them modally, set things up the way you want, and then show and hide the stack. Once the user clicks whatever ok or cancel or other button, you set the dialog data according to the contents of the particular dialog, then hide or close the stack. Bob On May 17, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: Is there any way to modify the standard file open/save dialogs, to add things like checkboxes? -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev audio clips
Assuming that Rev stores audio file data sequentially in the first place, one would have to search for a pattern of binary data AFTER the headers, which would not be stored in the stack. Check for where the headers end and where your test data starts and just use a small sample to search for, like the first 50 bytes.. Use a tiny sound for tests. http://www.sonicspot.com/guide/wavefiles.html http://www-mmsp.ece.mcgill.ca/Documents/AudioFormats/AIFF/AIFF.html On 18 May 2010 13:02, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 18/05/2010 22:17, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi all, After learning about the binary string produced by compress(), i am curious to know if one of the professional audio experts in this platform have examined the converted audio clips that Rev uses internally, after importing an audio file. By trial and error, you could isolate the audio binary string from a saved stack. Oh Yuck! I made a new stack ZOUND and imported an AIFF sound ZND.aiff into it. I then cracked both the stack and the sound file open with HexEdit: http://hexedit.sourceforge.net/ and could NOT find the 'audio binary string' in the stack. Maybe I went about things the wrong way . . . :) Then, analize and compare with the original imported audio clip, saved in different audio formats. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to create a self-contained custom control
I created a custom control. I set the behavior of the group (the custom control) to a button script (I want no script in the group). If I copy the custom control in a new stack, i need to copy the button script too, or the stack that contains the button script as a substack of a new stack. How to make a self-contained custom control that I can simply copy and past where I want ? I tried to put the button script inside the group, but it doesn't work. If I copy the custom control in a new card, the behavior of the group still point to the previous card. Any idea ? Thank you for your help. Jérôme Genève___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
Problem is always... priorities! So maybe what could help all parties, runrev included and us too, would be a way to ORGANIZE, PRIORITIZE, ideas, feedback, problems and solutions... in an organized WIKI place... rather than firing all round (sorry for that image.. no personnal scratch!!). I'm preparing one for the audio side. I'll see how to extend it if it catches on and helps produce something. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Reading-the-Supercard-manual-1-tp2221650p2221891.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address
Hi Mike. It is the generally accepted rule of thumb that some kind of firewall appliance between your cable modem and your computer is highly advisable. First, it almost certainly will use some form of NAT, which is Network Address Translation. This converts the packet info containing your local IP to the public IP of the gateway/firewall, effectively hiding your local IP from any casual bots or even a real hacker. I think all modern gateways detect IP spoofing so the packets would be dropped. By default, most home gateway products allow all outbound traffic, while only allowing approved inbound traffic that you have configured. Mostly you won't need to do this, but some older PC games require you to open up ports. Peer to peer file sharing will as well. I recommend you avoid those like the plague. A personal firewall is also recommended in a situation where there are several computers connected to yours locally, say throughout the house, and especially if you have a wireless access point on your local network. Wireless access points are not very secure, unless you take the time to lock them down which most people have no idea how to do well. If everyone has a personal firewall running on their computers, it becomes much harder for a determined hacker who got in (like your neighbor's kid who cracked your encryption on your wireless access point) or a worm on a computer on your network trying to compromise other local computers, say from your neighbor's kid who brought over his laptop for he and your kid to use. If you take these precautions, along with some decent form of antivirus/antispyware (avoid the free ones please) and you keep your computer up to date with Windows Update, your chances of being compromised are almost nil. Bob On May 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Michael Kann wrote: snip The part that scares me a little is Bob's remark: --- Still, I think the more likely scenario for this thread is that he -- that being me -- doesn't have a firewall solution that is not a personal firewall, which I always recommend for any home user or business. --- What that tells me is that a personal firewall isn't really sufficient. Thanks again for the info, Mike snip___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
My elephant skates quite well. I just could never teach him to stop! Bob On May 18, 2010, at 5:18 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: RDBMS are quite complex tools and sometimes they are used for the wrong job and then designing table schemas become like trying to teach an elephant to ice skate, if you're patient and wise enough, the elephant will eventually be able to ice skate but anyone looking into it will be at the same time amazed and afraid. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Adding to standard dialogs
Bob Sneidar wrote: There is no way to add to the present ask and answer dialogs. But there's nothing to prevent you from making your own! Yup. But Paul wanted to know about open/save file dialogs. Unfortunately there's no way to modify those. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Adding to standard dialogs
Silly me. Same principle applies though. It's one of the reasons I like hypercoding so much. You can fairly easily make things look pretty much like anything you want. I wrote a Monopoly stack once in my Hypercard heyday. There was no color at the time though, so I gave it up. Bob On May 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: There is no way to add to the present ask and answer dialogs. But there's nothing to prevent you from making your own! Yup. But Paul wanted to know about open/save file dialogs. Unfortunately there's no way to modify those. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address
Bob, Thank you very much for the good info. You've fired me up install the setup you describe. Until now I've probably just been luckier than I deserve to be. Mike --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com Subject: Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:10 PM Hi Mike. It is the generally accepted rule of thumb that some kind of firewall appliance between your cable modem and your computer is highly advisable. First, it almost certainly will use some form of NAT, which is Network Address Translation. This converts the packet info containing your local IP to the public IP of the gateway/firewall, effectively hiding your local IP from any casual bots or even a real hacker. I think all modern gateways detect IP spoofing so the packets would be dropped. By default, most home gateway products allow all outbound traffic, while only allowing approved inbound traffic that you have configured. Mostly you won't need to do this, but some older PC games require you to open up ports. Peer to peer file sharing will as well. I recommend you avoid those like the plague. A personal firewall is also recommended in a situation where there are several computers connected to yours locally, say throughout the house, and especially if you have a wireless access point on your local network. Wireless access points are not very secure, unless you take the time to lock them down which most people have no idea how to do well. If everyone has a personal firewall running on their computers, it becomes much harder for a determined hacker who got in (like your neighbor's kid who cracked your encryption on your wireless access point) or a worm on a computer on your network trying to compromise other local computers, say from your neighbor's kid who brought over his laptop for he and your kid to use. If you take these precautions, along with some decent form of antivirus/antispyware (avoid the free ones please) and you keep your computer up to date with Windows Update, your chances of being compromised are almost nil. Bob On May 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Michael Kann wrote: snip The part that scares me a little is Bob's remark: --- Still, I think the more likely scenario for this thread is that he -- that being me -- doesn't have a firewall solution that is not a personal firewall, which I always recommend for any home user or business. --- What that tells me is that a personal firewall isn't really sufficient. Thanks again for the info, Mike snip___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Adding to standard dialogs
One *could* make a great ask/answer file dialog from scratch, complete with the 'correct' icons that would be very close to the standard. Do a search of Rev archives for 'Directory Walker' . There are many, many threads about this. *You could use a datagrid and lay it out any way you want.* On 18 May 2010 14:20, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: There is no way to add to the present ask and answer dialogs. But there's nothing to prevent you from making your own! Yup. But Paul wanted to know about open/save file dialogs. Unfortunately there's no way to modify those. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Adding to standard dialogs
In 4.0 the dialogdata property is a full fledged data object and can be multi-dimensional, easily converted back and forth into an array. This simplifies creating complex dialog boxes with many parameters. Before 4.0, complex systems needed to be created to get multiple data blocks, some with multiple lines and sensitive formatting, through the eye of the needle. All the parameters had to be sent in an exact order as well, and contributed to many scripting errors. This simple change in dialogdata has made a world of difference in the way I create dialog boxes. A technique I use to extend the usefulness of a dialog is using some extra tags I've created to use in addition to the htmltext property. Often I need to package formatted text in a field in a dialog, but I require more than the htmltext property will allow, like centering, textcolor and backgroundcolor (of the entire field), but I want all of the properties to be described in the htmltext. After the last line of the gathered htmlText, I add name-value pairs like this: backgroundcolor=whitelocked=truealign=right As it turns out, if you set the htmltext of a field and include tags it doesn't know about, Rev just silently ignores those tags and only changes what it knows. So first, I'll parse out the extra tags and process them after first setting the htmlText. Works like a champ - keeps all display parameters in one block of text, rather that spread out in two or more areas. On 18 May 2010 13:33, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: There is no way to add to the present ask and answer dialogs. But there's nothing to prevent you from making your own! See the dialogdata in the documentation for methods to send data back and forth between your custom dialog window and your application. You get and set the dialogdata (a global property) as you please. I don't even think there is any reason why you could not use an array. I would recommend having all your dialog windows as cards in a special stack. You can lock the screen, open them modally, set things up the way you want, and then show and hide the stack. Once the user clicks whatever ok or cancel or other button, you set the dialog data according to the contents of the particular dialog, then hide or close the stack. Bob On May 17, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: Is there any way to modify the standard file open/save dialogs, to add things like checkboxes? -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to create a self-contained custom control
Nested Groups? On 18 May 2010 13:36, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote: I created a custom control. I set the behavior of the group (the custom control) to a button script (I want no script in the group). If I copy the custom control in a new stack, i need to copy the button script too, or the stack that contains the button script as a substack of a new stack. How to make a self-contained custom control that I can simply copy and past where I want ? I tried to put the button script inside the group, but it doesn't work. If I copy the custom control in a new card, the behavior of the group still point to the previous card. Any idea ? Thank you for your help. Jérôme Genève___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
On May 18, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: My elephant skates quite well. I just could never teach him to stop! Bob Ahhh, but can it do a camel ? Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev audio clips
Hi, Download these stacks and this audio clip: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/New_stacks_with_sample_au.zip This compressed file contains 3 files: 1 new stack, created and saved inmediatly without any change. (1k) 1 stack, created and inmediatly imported the audio clip sample.au (138k) 1 audio clip sample.au from Wikipedia. After opening the stack (with audio clip) and the audio clip in Hex viewer, i noticed that almost the whole audio clip is appended to the stack. Just like Steven wrote, probably only file headers are left out of the stack. Now, more test are needed to verify which other formats are appended as is and which audio clips are converted. This is relevant, given than previously in this mail list, someone ask about how to export audioclips from Runrev. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rev-audio-clips-tp2221758p058.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
I'll say it again: Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it. Judy On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
On May 18, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Judy Perry wrote: I'll say it again: Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it. Judy On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? That's right. It turns out to be non-trivial. When I was programming in C I wrote--ahem, I adapted--a cross-platform multi-channel sound library (for Mac OS 9 Windows 95). It was exacting and confusing because the two platforms had very different approaches to sound production. A couple of years ago, I sat down to write an external for RunRev but ran out of both funds and time. If I had a month of paid vacation--and nothing better to do--I might tackle it again for the challenge, but if I really had a month's paid vacation I'd go to France instead! t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev audio clips
RIGHT. But there's a way to go; what you are trying to do is go behind Rev's back and obtain the data. Simpler with one audio file, but what if there are hundreds? One could find the start and stop points for audio data that Rev uses in the files, find the parts that will be stripped, put them into the audioclip as a custom property (yes audioclips have custom properties.) Another way would be to tap into the IDE asset database to obtain the location of this data. I guess one could just get one to work, and copy single audio clips to an invisible stack for export, then delete the stack. Another way to do it that will work right now would be to import the audio file as an audioclip, and at the same time save the same audio file into a custom property *of* the audioclip. Two copies; one to export and one to play. And will require no reverse engineering or making wild guesses about what the API does. Bloated for sure, but does it matter in this day of monster hard drives? Creeps me out about the waste though. On 18 May 2010 16:19, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Download these stacks and this audio clip: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/New_stacks_with_sample_au.zip This compressed file contains 3 files: 1 new stack, created and saved inmediatly without any change. (1k) 1 stack, created and inmediatly imported the audio clip sample.au (138k) 1 audio clip sample.au from Wikipedia. After opening the stack (with audio clip) and the audio clip in Hex viewer, i noticed that almost the whole audio clip is appended to the stack. Just like Steven wrote, probably only file headers are left out of the stack. Now, more test are needed to verify which other formats are appended as is and which audio clips are converted. This is relevant, given than previously in this mail list, someone ask about how to export audioclips from Runrev. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rev-audio-clips-tp2221758p058.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Keep Pull down Menus from changing on mousedown
How can I keep a pull down menu from doing the reversed out thing with the foreground color switching to the background color on mouse down, I have some white text color pull down menus on a black ground, when the user click down we want the button name itself not to change at all, just show the items in the menu below. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
