Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
How would that differ from the QQC? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Robert Mann r...@free.fr wrote: Problem is always... priorities! So maybe what could help all parties, runrev included and us too, would be a way to ORGANIZE, PRIORITIZE, ideas, feedback, problems and solutions... in an organized WIKI place... rather than firing all round (sorry for that image.. no personnal scratch!!). I'm preparing one for the audio side. I'll see how to extend it if it catches on and helps produce something. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Reading-the-Supercard-manual-1-tp2221650p2221891.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
hum sorry .. what is QCC? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Reading-the-Supercard-manual-1-tp2221650p379.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev
I'm guessing Andre is the guru to answer this one. How does one populate a postgreSQL db on On-Rev in bulk? MySQL's phpMyAdmin gives you both an Import option and the ability to enter raw SQL commands, ie LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE, but the postgreSQL's phpPgAdmin has neither option. I'm not going to manually type in thousands of records. Thanks in advance And Ruslan, if you're reading, if On-Rev offered Valentina Free Server, I'd be trying to figure out how to do this with Valentina rather than postgreSQL, especially as I'd assume it would be as easy as using Valentina Studio's Connect to... Server option. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
Robert, if you don't know what it is, how did you know to correct my QQC to QCC? You must be psychic ;-) http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/ It's where you go to search, enter and expand on bug reports and improvement requests. You also get to vote on which ones are most important to you, thereby sending a message to RunRev that the ones with most votes are most important to the community. Sounds like what you intended doesn't it? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Robert Mann r...@free.fr wrote: hum sorry .. what is QCC? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Reading-the-Supercard-manual-1-tp2221650p379.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
Good idea Tereza ! But the other also ! :-) René Le 19 mai 2010 à 02:35, Tereza Snyder a écrit : but if I really had a month's paid vacation I'd go to France instead! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote: I'll say it again: Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it. Judy And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay that way . . . . On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
Hello Richmond, Bill Atkinson and Dan Winkler are the Scott Raney's Granddad ! No ? But Scott moved the Bill's and Dan's shoes... I agree with you It is necessary to move Scott's shoes ! And quickly ! ;-) Bon souvenir de Paris et de nos anciennes discussions... René Le 19 mai 2010 à 10:40, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote: I'll say it again: Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it. Judy And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay that way . . . . On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev
On 19/5/10 11:01 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kay, About postgre -- may be you can prepare db on local computer then upload to server? And Ruslan, if you're reading, if On-Rev offered Valentina Free Server, I'd be trying to figure out how to do this with Valentina rather than postgreSQL, especially as I'd assume it would be as easy as using Valentina Studio's Connect to... Server option. Well, A) REC community you can ask for that REV team. The more requests the better. Right? :) B) as far as I see On-Rev is a commercial service. Right? So it cannot use Valentina Free Server. But I do not see problems why Lynn and Rev Team cannot make agreement on usage of Valentina Office Server for some small fees. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
On 19 May 2010, at 09:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote: I'll say it again: Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it. Judy And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay that way . . . . Probably more like not adding a basement to Grandad's house even though he's been dead for 25 years... On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
destroystack wrong behavior...
Hi all, from time to time, in Rev IDE ( 4.0 MacOS ) when closing a stack, the stack is still in memory, seen in the Application browser too. DestroyStack and DestroyWindow are set properly ! and Yes, I refresh the application browser. It had happened few times during my developments, and never I could find a solution ? More, sometimes, it works again after a while without being able to know why. Does it sound familiar to someone and any idea what could cause this wrong behavior ? Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin ruslan_zasuk...@valentina-db.com wrote: About postgre -- may be you can prepare db on local computer then upload to server? I'm new to On-Rev and I couldn't see where the db files were stored. I'm hoping Andre or someone else can lead me in the right direction. Well, A) REC community you can ask for that REV team. The more requests the better. Right? :) Exactly - which is why I posted to the Rev Use List. I saw On-Rev and Valentina mentioned in another thread on the List so I figured it could hurt to add to the noise :-) B) as far as I see On-Rev is a commercial service. Right? So it cannot use Valentina Free Server. But I do not see problems why Lynn and Rev Team cannot make agreement on usage of Valentina Office Server for some small fees. Well, and I admit I don't understand it fully, but I think this is where some of the ambiguity of mySQL licensing comes in. I have a local mySQL db, it's non-commercial, so I don't pay licensing fees. If I set up a server at home and accessed it over the internet, it would still be non-commercial and I still wouldn't pay mySQL licensing fees. But that is more expensive than paying for a hosting service, so I use On-Rev. IMO On-Rev serves my content, they are not too involved with what that content is, be it html files, zip file or db files. To me, On-Rev is NOT a commercial DB Server, they are just a Server, if I use the Server to place my Commercial DB, then it is for me to pay licensing fees, not me + On-Rev to both pay fees to mySQL. I can see that this could be difficult to police, but I assume it's no different to me storing and distributing music/movies on a Server. Should On-Rev pay distribution fees for movies I store on their Server which I then download when I'm out of town for the return plane trip? If I let anyone download the movies, then it is me who should be paying the fees. It would be nice if you could come to some workable agreement. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
Thanks for the pointer Mark - seems comparable price wise. I think as I am looking for the easiest migration strategy from small community cheap start-up costs to global scalability - I'd prefer either the ability to use MySQL, or the simplicity of SimpleDB (which is also free for a basic instance)? But it is early days in the research - so thanks again for the pointers! On 18 May 2010 16:29, Mark Stuart mstu...@adaptcrm.com wrote: on Tue May 18 06:23:14 CDT 2010, David Bovill wrote: I'm looking into an application which needs a highly scalable back end database. David, have you checked out Microsoft's Azure cloud services? http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/sqlazure/ Here's some info I copied from that page: SQL Azure Database Features === Relational Database Management Services (RDBMS) - Creating, accessing and manipulating tables, views, indexes, roles, stored procedures, triggers, and functions - Execute complex queries and joins across multiple tables - Insert, Update, and Delete - Constraints - Transactions - Temp tables - Basic functions (aggregates, math, string, date/time) - A subset of the existing SQL Server built-in stored procedures and system views - Support for tracking billable metrics in real time and for historical analysis Programmability - Managed ADO.NET data access - Native ODBC *** - Support for PHP Tools - Deployment Support for running SQL configuration scripts via SQLCMD - Provision Logical Servers and Databases through the SQL Azure Database account portal There's a Get Started Now link near the left/top side of the page. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
Wait a minute, Who died? Grandpa has been dead for four years now and we sold his house soon after. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 19, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Phil Jimmieson wrote: On 19 May 2010, at 09:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote: I'll say it again: Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it. Judy And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay that way . . . . Probably more like not adding a basement to Grandad's house even though he's been dead for 25 years... On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev
Hi There Kay, What is the format of the data? Is it a csv file or something? Because if it is a text file, then you can upload the text file to your on-rev account and then use a SQL command such as COPY to parse and load the file. You don't need a option in phpPgAdmin to do it, you can just write the SQL command there. Check out http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/sql-copy.html With this you'll be able to load a csv (or similar) file into postgresql It is not as straight forward as LOAD DATA INFILE but it is close. Cheers andre On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm guessing Andre is the guru to answer this one. How does one populate a postgreSQL db on On-Rev in bulk? MySQL's phpMyAdmin gives you both an Import option and the ability to enter raw SQL commands, ie LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE, but the postgreSQL's phpPgAdmin has neither option. I'm not going to manually type in thousands of records. Thanks in advance And Ruslan, if you're reading, if On-Rev offered Valentina Free Server, I'd be trying to figure out how to do this with Valentina rather than postgreSQL, especially as I'd assume it would be as easy as using Valentina Studio's Connect to... Server option. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Show Your Colors on Slashdot - Runrev Coverage about RevMobile Still Hot
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/05/17/1849215/iPhone-SDK-Agreement-S huts-Out-HyperCard-Clone I hope everyone who cares will take the time to comment on this. Even though the coverage is something we've all dealt with in our own community, keeping the story alive does quite a few things for us - - it gets the word out about Revolution as a viable and powerful cross platform solution - it also gets out the word that Rev would make a brilliant solution as a RAD tool for Android - shining a smiley on Rev shines a smiley on Rev developers ready to take on new projects :-) Of course, I continue coverage over on my own blog at http://www.lynnfredricks.com. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Mirye Software Publishing http://www.mirye.com Mirye Community NING http://miryesoftware.ning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Hi Thierry, Yes, I am having the same problem. Once in a while, even after explicitly deleting a stack with the delete command, the stack still pops up somehow. I think this is due to the compexity of the IDE. Probably, the IDE team has used the long ID of a stack in several places, instead of the short name of the stack. If this reference to the long ID of a stack stays in memory, then the IDE will be able to find the stack even after it has been removed from memory. I don't think there is a quick solution for this problem, besides quitting and re-startingi RunRev. Of course, it is also possible that the long ID of a stack is still available in one of your own stacks. You might want to make sure that these references are not there. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 19 mei 2010, at 11:34, Thierry D. wrote: Hi all, from time to time, in Rev IDE ( 4.0 MacOS ) when closing a stack, the stack is still in memory, seen in the Application browser too. DestroyStack and DestroyWindow are set properly ! and Yes, I refresh the application browser. It had happened few times during my developments, and never I could find a solution ? More, sometimes, it works again after a while without being able to know why. Does it sound familiar to someone and any idea what could cause this wrong behavior ? Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Hi Thierry, Yes, I am having the same problem. Once in a while, even after explicitly deleting a stack with the delete command, the stack still pops up somehow. Thanks Mark I'm not alone ! Half the suffering is gone :) I think this is due to the compexity of the IDE. Probably, the IDE team has used the long ID of a stack in several places, instead of the short name of the stack. If this reference to the long ID of a stack stays in memory, then the IDE will be able to find the stack even after it has been removed from memory. As I have only one stack and a substack within can't see the long-id-stack virus from my side. Agree ? I don't think there is a quick solution for this problem, besides quitting and re-starting RunRev. Hmm, so I have to put a Red Banner for my customers :( Of course, it is also possible that the long ID of a stack is still available in one of your own stacks. You might want to make sure that these references are not there. I'll check again... Regards, Thierry Hi all, from time to time, in Rev IDE ( 4.0 MacOS ) when closing a stack, the stack is still in memory, seen in the Application browser too. DestroyStack and DestroyWindow are set properly ! and Yes, I refresh the application browser. It had happened few times during my developments, and never I could find a solution ? More, sometimes, it works again after a while without being able to know why. Does it sound familiar to someone and any idea what could cause this wrong behavior ? Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revWeb: Splash Screen Icon
When you set a splash screen icon in the standalone builder fo a revWeb exported stack - the icon must be copied somewhere to the revWeb plugin. Is there a way to refer to it from within a script in the revWeb stack - or do I have to copy it in twice so to speak? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
Hi All I know nothing at all of Macs I have Rev Studio (windows) and in the standalone builder there is a Mac (OSX) tab and when I build my Windows Standalone, I also get a Mac folder. Is this a Mac standlone of any type? If so, how is it used. What is OSX? I never build for Macs, it just happens in the club this application is for there is one Mac user. All the rest are windows users. Cheers Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
From: Steve King I know nothing at all of Macs I have Rev Studio (windows) and in the standalone builder there is a Mac (OSX) tab and when I build my Windows Standalone, I also get a Mac folder. Is this a Mac standlone of any type? If so, how is it used. What is OSX? I never build for Macs, it just happens in the club this application is for there is one Mac user. All the rest are windows users. Yes, if you checked the box telling it to build an OS-X standalone too. Under the Mac folder, there should be a .app folder, which is the Mac application. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
Steve King wrote: I know nothing at all of Macs I have Rev Studio (windows) and in the standalone builder there is a Mac (OSX) tab and when I build my Windows Standalone, I also get a Mac folder. Is this a Mac standlone of any type? If so, how is it used. What is OSX? OSX is a misspelling of OS X (OS version 10), the Mac operating system Apple ships with their computers. I never build for Macs, it just happens in the club this application is for there is one Mac user. All the rest are windows users. Unfortunately, Apple's Unix core will require an extra step to deploy there: The folder you see is what Apple calls a bundle, and contains all the parts and pieces the app needs to run, things that are embedded into a single file on Windows. Within the bundle at this path: /bundlename.app/Contents/MacOS/exename ...where it says exename you'll find the actual executable. But since it was generated from Windows it has no executable bit, which Unix-based file systems need to run a file as an executable. To make the app runnnable you'll need to copy the *.app bundle to a Mac, then on the Mac use Terminal to change the permissions on the executable using chmod. If there's an easier way to generate Mac standalones from Windows I haven't found it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
That's seems a ridiculously obtuse process. Not doubting it, but couldn't the application builder be made to take care of this? Mark On May 19, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Steve King wrote: I know nothing at all of Macs I have Rev Studio (windows) and in the standalone builder there is a Mac (OSX) tab and when I build my Windows Standalone, I also get a Mac folder. Is this a Mac standlone of any type? If so, how is it used. What is OSX? OSX is a misspelling of OS X (OS version 10), the Mac operating system Apple ships with their computers. I never build for Macs, it just happens in the club this application is for there is one Mac user. All the rest are windows users. Unfortunately, Apple's Unix core will require an extra step to deploy there: The folder you see is what Apple calls a bundle, and contains all the parts and pieces the app needs to run, things that are embedded into a single file on Windows. Within the bundle at this path: /bundlename.app/Contents/MacOS/exename ...where it says exename you'll find the actual executable. But since it was generated from Windows it has no executable bit, which Unix-based file systems need to run a file as an executable. To make the app runnnable you'll need to copy the *.app bundle to a Mac, then on the Mac use Terminal to change the permissions on the executable using chmod. If there's an easier way to generate Mac standalones from Windows I haven't found it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
Mark Swindell wrote: That's seems a ridiculously obtuse process. Not doubting it, but couldn't the application builder be made to take care of this? Mark I agree that it's way more work than would be desirable, but we discussed this here in a thread a couple months back related to a multi-platform installer I was making and we couldn't come up with a simpler solution. The outcome of that thread was that ultimately this is a difference in file system capabilities, and not something Rev can address. You simply can't set the Unix executable bit from Windows, since the Win file system has no such property. If someone comes up with a way to do it I'd be very happy to learn it, but last time we explored it here we came up empty. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv On May 19, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Steve King wrote: I know nothing at all of Macs I have Rev Studio (windows) and in the standalone builder there is a Mac (OSX) tab and when I build my Windows Standalone, I also get a Mac folder. Is this a Mac standlone of any type? If so, how is it used. What is OSX? OSX is a misspelling of OS X (OS version 10), the Mac operating system Apple ships with their computers. I never build for Macs, it just happens in the club this application is for there is one Mac user. All the rest are windows users. Unfortunately, Apple's Unix core will require an extra step to deploy there: The folder you see is what Apple calls a bundle, and contains all the parts and pieces the app needs to run, things that are embedded into a single file on Windows. Within the bundle at this path: /bundlename.app/Contents/MacOS/exename ...where it says exename you'll find the actual executable. But since it was generated from Windows it has no executable bit, which Unix-based file systems need to run a file as an executable. To make the app runnnable you'll need to copy the *.app bundle to a Mac, then on the Mac use Terminal to change the permissions on the executable using chmod. If there's an easier way to generate Mac standalones from Windows I haven't found it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Thierry D. wrote: Hi all, from time to time, in Rev IDE ( 4.0 MacOS ) when closing a stack, the stack is still in memory, seen in the Application browser too. DestroyStack and DestroyWindow are set properly ! and Yes, I refresh the application browser. It had happened few times during my developments, and never I could find a solution ? More, sometimes, it works again after a while without being able to know why. Does it sound familiar to someone and any idea what could cause this wrong behavior ? What happens if you type into the message box: delete stack main stack Does it go away then? (Make sure you specify the mainstack, not the substack.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
Peter Alcibiades wrote: He has a solution, surely, it is to do it from the shell. His problem is that when he goes out to the shell, it does not then play in the background. If he calls the shell command from a separate stack, will it not then leave the original stack to just go on? So the effect will be to play in the background, and leave the user free to interact with the main stack? If you try this, I'd like to know how it works. I think all scripts will pause while another is running, regardless of the stack the script is in. But let us know. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev
On-Rev is paying the fees to mySQL as a commercial venture, so the licensing restrictions have been satisfied. You ARE paying for mySQL use because you pay for On-Rev. Bob On May 19, 2010, at 4:07 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: To me, On-Rev is NOT a commercial DB Server, they are just a Server, if I use the Server to place my Commercial DB, then it is for me to pay licensing fees, not me + On-Rev to both pay fees to mySQL. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] WebM: another fly in our friend's eye?
http://www.webmproject.org/ another 'Open' initiative started by Google; how OPEN this is, and whether it intended to be something 'real' or just Google chucking something into the current soup brewing between Apple and Adobe I don't know. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Show Your Colors on Slashdot - Runrev Coverage about RevMobile Still Hot
Posted. On May 19, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/05/17/1849215/iPhone-SDK-Agreement-S huts-Out-HyperCard-Clone ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
Ruslan, Thanks for the quick reply. I am commenting your comments mixed in the quote below. I also have a shot to claim my deadliest database schema record Thanks for dropping in the thread. One thing that I think is stopping some rev developers moving to valentina is that there's no valentina server for revServer. The FREE Valentina server has adaptors only for ruby and php, if we had RevServer support or at least a public available protocol to talk to valentina server then we could implement support in RevServer itself. As revServer you mean this? http://www.on-rev.com/home/ Why you talk about Valentina Free Server? Why cannot be used Valentina Office Server? Yes, I mean revServer in the On-Rev service. Any of the options could be cool may it be the Free or the Office server I think that David is doing some web development since most of the uses of SimpleDB and RDS are related to web apps. Right now, we can't do web development with valentina and rev. Which is a pitty since valentina is deadly fast and provides the key-value stuff. Why you can't? Because revServer can't access externals, so the ADK for Rev does not work with revServer. It needs a pure revTalk library that talks to Valentina Server to work. Any OS platform. You install VSERVER, make your REV app. Host them together. What problems? Plus the same VSERVER can be touched by any other Valentina Client from C++, C#, ObjC ... To PHP, RB, REV, Director, ShockWave, ... As the above comment, with revServer we can't access any valentina for rev routines since it does not support externals. We would need a pure revTalk implementation. I too believe that no one here will reach the limit of a single server. I am working right now on a system which has one database with 6 thousand tables and millions and millions of records and it still a single mysql server. And before you all curse me, I didn't design this stuff, I arrived at it after THREE earlier programmers, I would never design anything with 6 thousand tables... That is cool :) 2 weeks ago I have to hear about man with 1000 tables.. You have new record :) Now, check out this screen shot I just took: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/shots/msdb.jpg This is ONE MASSIVE DATABASE with mind melting amount of information, tables with 55 million records... ARGH! I *hate* it. What most users want here is just some kind of persistance and minimal querying. Many here don't even do joins or views or fancy SQL stuff. To keep e.g. Prefs? For this exists ini, xml files :) RDBMS is really not required here. Exactly, but I was thinking more like documents or structured data not unlike what one would put in an XML file but using Valentina would make searching much easier than using xml... -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
Dear Stewart, That is a lovely piece of software: Thank you very much indeed! On 18/05/2010 20:33, RevList wrote: Richmond Mathewsonrichmondmathew...@gmail.com on May-18-10 at 10:26 AM -0700 wrote: The SuperScript utility allows you to almost instantaneously export all or some of the scripts of your project to text or RTF formatted files. ? Not that I am aware of, but have you checked out this? http://www.createchsol.com/ScriptReporter ** Stewart Lynch CreaTECH Solutions sly...@createchsol.com 604.484.8499 Skype:StewartLynch ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
I thought this was EXACTLY what SQL was created to do? Bob On May 19, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Now, check out this screen shot I just took: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/shots/msdb.jpg This is ONE MASSIVE DATABASE with mind melting amount of information, tables with 55 million records... ARGH! I *hate* it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
Warning, bad analogy on the way... That's kind of like observing a truck full of loose boulders ready to fly out the back. Isn't that what trucks are for, carrying heavy loads? Point being that yes, SQL is one means towards managing large amounts of tables, rows, data, etc -- but it still suffers if you throw just anything at it. Also I can just imagine maintaining the SQL for 1000 tables =). Andre, you deserve a medal for keeping that thing alive (or a sanity check)... I thought this was EXACTLY what SQL was created to do? Bob On May 19, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Now, check out this screen shot I just took: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/shots/msdb.jpg This is ONE MASSIVE DATABASE with mind melting amount of information, tables with 55 million records... ARGH! I *hate* it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
I need a sanity check for many reasons, that is one. Just imagine that I am working on a company that sends email marketing and that we send about 10 million emails per day... it all comes from that database you saw. 6 thousand tables governing the process of mailing and tracking 10 Million emails per day and rising. Everyday when I arrive back at home, I pour myself the easiest thing to open in the fridge (may it be juice, soda or beer, whatever is handy) and just drop on the sofa. The only turing device that I allow myself to use at that mental stage is my iPad because it is simple and just works. There are days that whispering SQL! behind me will just make me scream in horror. And don't let me get started on clients trying to load CSV (yes, comma separated value) files into this database... I've seen CSV files with more than 500,000 (half million) records. And they want to load it thru the use of LOAD DATA INFILE, now, imagine that those files are Excel dumps and other silly stuff and that the clients are not checking those files... now, build a validator for a CSV file with maybe 50 abstract fields one of which is an email, and that data is supposed to go inside that 6k database... And it is all PHP using NROOP paradigm which stands for Not-Really-Object-Oriented-Programming and in reallity means there are a lot of Objects and Classes not doing what they should do and a lot of mix in the MVC where the V plays the role of C sometimes and the M went out to lunch and never came back. Now, here our bottleneck is actually the database machine. It can't pump out the data as fast as we need it. There are also other design bottlenecks, but the email sending part is not one of them. Can valentina hold 6k tables and millions and millions of records? I could create a portable version of this system, almost a portable nightmare. Andre, you deserve a medal for keeping that thing alive (or a sanity check)... I thought this was EXACTLY what SQL was created to do? Bob -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Le 19 mai 2010 à 19:59, J. Landman Gay a écrit : What happens if you type into the message box: delete stack main stack Does it go away then? (Make sure you specify the mainstack, not the substack.) Hmmm, as soon as I sent my email to this list, it starts to work again :) and without changing anything in my stack ! So, I'll try this later... Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
John, Try using the command like shell(aplay path-tofile ) This last will run the command in the background, the command should return imediatly to the stack while the sound play (I think, untested) On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:04 PM, John Patten johnpat...@mac.com wrote: Hi All... I've been having a problem playing back an audio file on a Linux computer using an arecord a shell script to first create the audio file. The audio file gets created on the local machine, it then gets uploaded to an ftp directory, however when I go to play the sound file locally using just Rev it's just static white noise. If I again, use the shell script to play the audio file, aplay path-tofile, it plays fine. However the user can't do anything with my stack until the file completely finishes playing. Is there any way to play the audio file via the shell script in the background and still allow the user to interact with the stack? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
What happens if you type into the message box: delete stack main stack Does it go away then? (Make sure you specify the mainstack, not the substack.) Yes, it does! However, if you have saved the stack it will still exist where it has been saved. All that DELETE STACK does is remove it completely from the memory of the IDE. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Richmond Mathewson wrote: What happens if you type into the message box: delete stack main stack Does it go away then? (Make sure you specify the mainstack, not the substack.) Yes, it does! However, if you have saved the stack it will still exist where it has been saved. All that DELETE STACK does is remove it completely from the memory of the IDE. Right. But that's what he wanted. The issue is whether or not destroystack is working as it's supposed to. I haven't seen any problems with it but since two people think they have, that's what's under investigation. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to create a self-contained custom control
Stephen, Thank you for the suggestion. I tried. But it doesn't work as I wish it. Jérôme Le 18 mai 2010 à 23:38, stephen barncard a écrit : Nested Groups? On 18 May 2010 13:36, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote: I created a custom control. I set the behavior of the group (the custom control) to a button script (I want no script in the group). If I copy the custom control in a new stack, i need to copy the button script too, or the stack that contains the button script as a substack of a new stack. How to make a self-contained custom control that I can simply copy and past where I want ? I tried to put the button script inside the group, but it doesn't work. If I copy the custom control in a new card, the behavior of the group still point to the previous card. Any idea ? Thank you for your help. Jérôme Genève___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Been there as well, came to a little fix if you can call that a fix, instead of closing the stack try something along the lines of: delete stack myStack This will really take it out of the memory, so these days, I close and then I delete or vice versa... On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Thierry D. th.do...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, from time to time, in Rev IDE ( 4.0 MacOS ) when closing a stack, the stack is still in memory, seen in the Application browser too. DestroyStack and DestroyWindow are set properly ! and Yes, I refresh the application browser. It had happened few times during my developments, and never I could find a solution ? More, sometimes, it works again after a while without being able to know why. Does it sound familiar to someone and any idea what could cause this wrong behavior ? Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
On 19/05/2010 22:19, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: What happens if you type into the message box: delete stack main stack Does it go away then? (Make sure you specify the mainstack, not the substack.) Yes, it does! However, if you have saved the stack it will still exist where it has been saved. All that DELETE STACK does is remove it completely from the memory of the IDE. Right. But that's what he wanted. The issue is whether or not destroystack is working as it's supposed to. I haven't seen any problems with it but since two people think they have, that's what's under investigation. Is this chap running on Win, Mac or Linux? Unfortunately I hosed my Linux box (trying to be too clever for my own good; nothing new) and am, right now, in the process of doing a complete reinstall. But can try this in Windows directly and in Linux in about 90 minutes. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to create a self-contained custom control
The whole point of a behavior is that it works for multiple objects (in your case a group) and acts a bit like a library for that group - so you can copy and paste the group where you want and all the copies will point to and use the same behavior script. If you want to put the script inside the group and don't mind having multiple copies of the script for each groupd you copy - then you can - basically don;t use a behavior and just put the behavior script in the groups script. There is no way to have both. On 19 May 2010 20:33, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote: Stephen, Thank you for the suggestion. I tried. But it doesn't work as I wish it. Jérôme Le 18 mai 2010 à 23:38, stephen barncard a écrit : Nested Groups? On 18 May 2010 13:36, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote: I created a custom control. I set the behavior of the group (the custom control) to a button script (I want no script in the group). If I copy the custom control in a new stack, i need to copy the button script too, or the stack that contains the button script as a substack of a new stack. How to make a self-contained custom control that I can simply copy and past where I want ? I tried to put the button script inside the group, but it doesn't work. If I copy the custom control in a new card, the behavior of the group still point to the previous card. Any idea ? Thank you for your help. Jérôme Genève___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reading the Supercard manual #2
Using Help From Within the Script Editor The Help System's Language Guide entries can be looked up automatically from within SuperCard's or SuperEdit's script editor window. Simply hilite the word you wish to lookup and press Command-?. If the help system is currently not running it will be launched and the Language Guide window will open to the hilited entry. If the highlighted word is not a SuperTalk word the help system will tell you. Yum! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
I use that all the time with netbeans... why don't we have something like that implemented? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Using Help From Within the Script Editor The Help System's Language Guide entries can be looked up automatically from within SuperCard's or SuperEdit's script editor window. Simply hilite the word you wish to lookup and press Command-?. If the help system is currently not running it will be launched and the Language Guide window will open to the hilited entry. If the highlighted word is not a SuperTalk word the help system will tell you. Yum! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
Andre- Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 12:57:46 PM, you wrote: I use that all the time with netbeans... why don't we have something like that implemented? Control- or right-clicking the highlighted word too much work for you? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
:-O x 1 I never knew that... Thanks Mark, that is even better! (how could I live without it) I mostly use tRev these days, even so, it is very good to know. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Andre- Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 12:57:46 PM, you wrote: I use that all the time with netbeans... why don't we have something like that implemented? Control- or right-clicking the highlighted word too much work for you? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
Quite the conundrum. Thanks for the explanation. New motto: Write once, wrestle lots, and deploy on multiple platforms. Mark On May 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Swindell wrote: That's seems a ridiculously obtuse process. Not doubting it, but couldn't the application builder be made to take care of this? Mark I agree that it's way more work than would be desirable, but we discussed this here in a thread a couple months back related to a multi-platform installer I was making and we couldn't come up with a simpler solution. The outcome of that thread was that ultimately this is a difference in file system capabilities, and not something Rev can address. You simply can't set the Unix executable bit from Windows, since the Win file system has no such property. If someone comes up with a way to do it I'd be very happy to learn it, but last time we explored it here we came up empty. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv On May 19, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Steve King wrote: I know nothing at all of Macs I have Rev Studio (windows) and in the standalone builder there is a Mac (OSX) tab and when I build my Windows Standalone, I also get a Mac folder. Is this a Mac standlone of any type? If so, how is it used. What is OSX? OSX is a misspelling of OS X (OS version 10), the Mac operating system Apple ships with their computers. I never build for Macs, it just happens in the club this application is for there is one Mac user. All the rest are windows users. Unfortunately, Apple's Unix core will require an extra step to deploy there: The folder you see is what Apple calls a bundle, and contains all the parts and pieces the app needs to run, things that are embedded into a single file on Windows. Within the bundle at this path: /bundlename.app/Contents/MacOS/exename ...where it says exename you'll find the actual executable. But since it was generated from Windows it has no executable bit, which Unix-based file systems need to run a file as an executable. To make the app runnnable you'll need to copy the *.app bundle to a Mac, then on the Mac use Terminal to change the permissions on the executable using chmod. If there's an easier way to generate Mac standalones from Windows I haven't found it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
Andre- Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 1:11:16 PM, you wrote: I mostly use tRev these days, even so, it is very good to know. tRev does pretty much the same thing (but better IMO): check out Terms from the popup menu... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
SO YOU are the one sending me all that junk mail! Bob On May 19, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I need a sanity check for many reasons, that is one. Just imagine that I am working on a company that sends email marketing and that we send about 10 million emails per day... it all comes from that database you saw. 6 thousand tables governing the process of mailing and tracking 10 Million emails per day and rising. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
Even better, the terms pane, if left open, will give you the definition for any word the cursor is in. Bob On May 19, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Andre- Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 1:11:16 PM, you wrote: I mostly use tRev these days, even so, it is very good to know. tRev does pretty much the same thing (but better IMO): check out Terms from the popup menu... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
I wish I could lock the definition so that it would not change when I start typing the parameters... On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Even better, the terms pane, if left open, will give you the definition for any word the cursor is in. Bob On May 19, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Andre- Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 1:11:16 PM, you wrote: I mostly use tRev these days, even so, it is very good to know. tRev does pretty much the same thing (but better IMO): check out Terms from the popup menu... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
Richmond Mathewson wrote: Using Help From Within the Script Editor The Help System's Language Guide entries can be looked up automatically from within SuperCard's or SuperEdit's script editor window. Simply hilite the word you wish to lookup and press Command-?. If the help system is currently not running it will be launched and the Language Guide window will open to the hilited entry. If the highlighted word is not a SuperTalk word the help system will tell you. Yum! We already have that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
I see your point. That would be a good request to Jerry. Bob On May 19, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I wish I could lock the definition so that it would not change when I start typing the parameters... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Le 19 mai 2010 à 21:38, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : On 19/05/2010 22:19, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: What happens if you type into the message box: delete stack main stack Does it go away then? (Make sure you specify the mainstack, not the substack.) Yes, it does! As I said in the last email, sometimes it works just the way is has, sometimes not. All that DELETE STACK does is remove it completely from the memory of the IDE. Right. But that's what he wanted. The issue is whether or not destroystack is working as it's supposed to. I haven't seen any problems with it but since two people think they have, that's what's under investigation. I don't really mind from my side, but it's annoying for those I'm sending my work... One problem out of this is when you start again the stack, the init processing ( depending on my own design doesn't work correctly then. ) and from the user's point of view it just doesn't work ! This is the real side effect for me :( So, I have to investigate this and make a consistent workaround. Maybe it's because of my code, maybe not... but I need to fix it. Is this chap running on Win, Mac or Linux? Hey , Richmond ! I said on Mac with Rev 4.0 :) Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
guilt as charged... but our doubleoptout works, so people can actually unsubscribe. We just provide the system to some really big companies here, think wall mart big (Actually wall mart is one of the customers and responsible for 2,5 million emails) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: SO YOU are the one sending me all that junk mail! Bob On May 19, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I need a sanity check for many reasons, that is one. Just imagine that I am working on a company that sends email marketing and that we send about 10 million emails per day... it all comes from that database you saw. 6 thousand tables governing the process of mailing and tracking 10 Million emails per day and rising. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Le 19 mai 2010 à 21:34, Andre Garzia a écrit : Been there as well, came to a little fix if you can call that a fix, instead of closing the stack try something along the lines of: delete stack myStack This will really take it out of the memory, so these days, I close and then I delete or vice versa... So, we are at least 3 to have experienced it ! Sounds a good one. I'll try it for a while and see... Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
Mark Swindell wrote: Quite the conundrum. Thanks for the explanation. New motto: Write once, wrestle lots, and deploy on multiple platforms. To be fair, it's easy and as advertised to build on all platforms from any OS, with this one exception of building for OS X from Windows. You can't really blame Rev for not being able to support something that Windows isn't capable of doing. Windows is completely unaware of any unix-based permissions. Going the other direction -- building on other platforms for Windows deployment -- works fine and as expected. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Subject: Re: Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
Hi Paul, Richard Thanks for your help. I should be able to get it working from this, even if I have to help the user myself! Unfortunately, Apple's Unix core will require an extra step to deploy there: The folder you see is what Apple calls a bundle, and contains all the parts and pieces the app needs to run, things that are embedded into a single file on Windows. Within the bundle at this path: /bundlename.app/Contents/MacOS/exename ...where it says exename you'll find the actual executable. But since it was generated from Windows it has no executable bit, which Unix-based file systems need to run a file as an executable. To make the app runnnable you'll need to copy the *.app bundle to a Mac, then on the Mac use Terminal to change the permissions on the executable using chmod. If there's an easier way to generate Mac standalones from Windows I haven't found it. Cheers Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
oh and this is to the Brazilian public, I don't think we send anything overseas... it is mostly promotions and ads for big shops and companies in here... now, if you think I am sending you email, you can send me your email and I will search the 55 Million email database to check if you're in any of them. :-D On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: guilt as charged... but our doubleoptout works, so people can actually unsubscribe. We just provide the system to some really big companies here, think wall mart big (Actually wall mart is one of the customers and responsible for 2,5 million emails) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: SO YOU are the one sending me all that junk mail! Bob On May 19, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I need a sanity check for many reasons, that is one. Just imagine that I am working on a company that sends email marketing and that we send about 10 million emails per day... it all comes from that database you saw. 6 thousand tables governing the process of mailing and tracking 10 Million emails per day and rising. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Thierry, does your stack have any substacks that are still open? Rev can not destroy it in that case. Do you reference to it with a filePath? - Will be reopened each time you reference to it then. Does it carry an external that is still used? - Rev won´t destroy it then AFAIK Other than those cases, I have never seen destroystack fail. All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
Andre, If you mean by this that the bottleneck is READ access for sending the emails, would replication be an option? You could set up a second slave DB which shouldn't affect WRITE much unless you are already saturated on that end as well. Then when you need that burst of data, just alternate (or some smarter load balancing) between the two machines. READ access can scale close to linearly that way with a pretty simple setup. Now, if you are running out of WRITE capacity, that's a harder problem... HTH? Now, here our bottleneck is actually the database machine. It can't pump out the data as fast as we need it. There are also other design bottlenecks, but the email sending part is not one of them. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
I meant to be more silly than sarcastic. :) It works fine the way I use it, from Mac to Windows. But it can't be denied it's not so simple if you write on Windows and wish to deploy on Mac, and that is sort of 1/2 of the common equation for x-platform deployment, isn't it? Mark (Not meaning to offend the Linux folks, but Windows and Mac are still the main supported platforms from all I read here.) On May 19, 2010, at 1:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Mark Swindell wrote: Quite the conundrum. Thanks for the explanation. New motto: Write once, wrestle lots, and deploy on multiple platforms. To be fair, it's easy and as advertised to build on all platforms from any OS, with this one exception of building for OS X from Windows. You can't really blame Rev for not being able to support something that Windows isn't capable of doing. Windows is completely unaware of any unix-based permissions. Going the other direction -- building on other platforms for Windows deployment -- works fine and as expected. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: Thierry, does your stack have any substacks that are still open? Rev can not destroy it in that case. Do you reference to it with a filePath? - Will be reopened each time you reference to it then. Does it carry an external that is still used? - Rev won´t destroy it then AFAIK Other than those cases, I have never seen destroystack fail. Right. Other things that prevent a stack closing are drivers that haven't been closed (i.e., revSpeech, etc.) and any pending messages that haven't been cancelled. Externals aren't a problem, stacks will still close when using those. So to ensure that a stack is really removed from memory when closing: 1. Destroystack must be set to true 2. Substacks must be closed 3. Pending messages must be cancelled 4. Any open drivers must be closed -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Built our first web app on the iPad with Rodeo!
Check out the screen shots of a Rodeo app being editing, etc. on an iPad: http://rodeoapps.com/built-our-first-web-app-on-the-ipad-with-rode Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your 7 day free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
on my macBook.. oldy.. 1,83 core duo with lots of ram, it takes 2 seconds on the whole. As I splitted it up.. nearly one sec to prepare and the other to actualy curl.. so chacing in just reduces by half still one long second!! too much still.. sniff!! Well.. we'll do without the curl then!! smile. alos same size of stack 700 someting by 700 something Here is the code I used (I changed a few things but it is nearly the original one..) on mouseUp if (noCore()) then exit mouseUp put the milliseconds into tStart prepareCurl put the milliseconds into tEnd put tEnd-tStart into tdiff1 -- answer doCUrl? tdiff1 with go put the milliseconds into tStart -- if it is go then doCurl doCurl put the milliseconds into tEnd put tEnd-tStart into tdiff2 answer doCUrl took tdiff1 + tdiff2 = (tdiff1+tdiff2) with go end mouseUp on prepareCurl lock screen -- go next card export snapshot from the next card to tTarget as png set the text of image TargetImage to tTarget set the loc of image TargetImage to the loc of this card hide image TargetImage export snapshot from this card to tSource as png set the text of image SourceImage to tSource set the loc of image SourceImage to the loc of this card show image SourceImage unlock screen end prepareCurl on doCurl show image TargetImage with visual effect CIPageCurlTransition fast with angle -280 and backsideImage ID (the short ID of image sourceImage) and extent (the rect of this card) and radius 120.00 and shadingImage ID (the short ID of image shadingImage) lock screen go to next card hide image TargetImage hide image sourceImage put empty into image targetImage put empty into image SourceImage unlock screen end doCurl -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2223690.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] WebM: another fly in our friend's eye?
WebM is supposed to be as open as HTML, Javascript and CSS, where the rights were freely given. It's a great step forward in the standardization and modernization of the web, like HTML5. I'm checking the special Opera browser now. Something else to watch: Web Fonts http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssatten On 19 May 2010 11:16, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.webmproject.org/ another 'Open' initiative started by Google; how OPEN this is, and whether it intended to be something 'real' or just Google chucking something into the current soup brewing between Apple and Adobe I don't know. ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Robert, you changed the curl to fast. On my MacBook Pro 2.33 that gives about 800 milliseconds. BUT: it is what transitions are for, I did not even test the timing for curl because the user sees a transition without much latency, that is more important than the time. I agree with you that waiting 1000 milliseconds for something to happen is very long. But that is the snapshot part. If you cut that down with caching in a custom property and you come down to 150 milliseconds or so I think that is ok. if you want to try it: watch out for linebreaks on mouseUp if (noCore()) then exit mouseUp lock screen go next card set the text of image TargetImage to the uImage of this card set the loc of image TargetImage to the loc of this card hide image TargetImage set the text of image SourceImage to the uImage of prev card set the loc of image SourceImage to the loc of this card show image SourceImage unlock screen show image TargetImage with visual effect CIPageCurlTransition very slow with angle -280 and backsideImage\ ID (the short ID of image sourceImage) and extent (the rect of this card)\ and radius 120.00 and shadingImage ID (the short ID of image shadingImage) lock screen put empty into image targetImage hide image TargetImage put empty into image SourceImage hide image sourceImage end mouseUp --- to create the custom properties with the snapshot of the cards: in the script of the stack: on MakeImages repeat with i = 1 to the number of cards export snapshot from card i to tTarget as png set the uImage of card i to tTarget end repeat end MakeImages - call MakeImages once from the message box and you have your card images in the custom properties. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2223712.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: destroystack wrong behavior...
4. Any open drivers must be closed How to tell what are the open drivers? Is there a commad like openStacks for drivers? BTW, I too've suffered this destroystack wrong behavior, always shrugging it off as something of my own doing rather than Rev's. Something I'm even more convinced of after reading Jacqueline's warning to make sure everything and the kitchen sink is truly closed. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
gigapan
The ability to zoom in on this image is amazing. http://gigapan.org/gigapans/15374/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Has anyone integrated PayPal's website payments pro into a Rev stack?
Has anyone integrated PayPal's website payments pro into a Rev stack? I just put a test stack together, and POSTed a name-value pair string: METHOD=DoDirectPaymentPAYMENTACTION=AuthorizationIPADDRESS=76.173.63.106CREDITCARDTYPE=MasterCardFIRSTNAME=JoshLASTNAME=MellickerBUSINESS=STREET=2286+Ronda+Vista+DrSTREET2=CITY=Los+AngelesSTATE=CAZIP=90027PHONENUM=323-661-5626EMAIL=josh%40leapingbrain.comACCT=5423796149114721CVV2=640COUNTRYCODE=USEXPDATE=032011AMT=1.00USER=userna_1271887449_biz_api1.gmail.comPWD=xSIGNATURE=A9L7paNl5NDQvEvD3bNKUk4uhotZAPWp1MTDBCfdwfJf2MH1Nmbl0mV3VERSION=2.3 to this URL: https://api-3t.sandbox.paypal.com/nvp and got this error returned: error -Error with certificate at depth: 1 issuer = /C=US/O=VeriSign, Inc./OU=Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority - G2/OU=(c) 1998 VeriSign, Inc. - For authorized use only/OU=VeriSign Trust Network subject = /C=US/O=VeriSign, Inc./OU=VeriSign Trust Network/OU=Terms of use at https://www.verisign.com/rpa (c)09/CN=VeriSign Class 3 Secure Server CA - G2 err 20:unable to get local issuer certificate --- We have no problem POSTing to an https:// Authorize.net URL from Rev, either I'm doing something wrong, or Paypal requires more authentication? I'm going to pursue this with PayPal, but suddenly realized some RunRev developer might have already invented this wheel.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Strange behavior in the IDE
Hello all. Last night I built a splash loader for my application that loads sqlYoga, negotiates the database connection and opens up all the stacks needed for my program. Well, I wake up today and the revIDE has been extremely erratic! Last night the loader ran as it was supposed to, it worked very well with StackRunner 2.0 from sons of thunder as well. Today, it works exactly the same when opened with StackRunner but the rev IDE doesn't load it correctly. No messages get sent when watching the message watcher. The only way I can get the rest of the script to execute is to choose Close and remove from memory several times until it finally (seemingly at random) loads properly. I have noticed some other strange behavior such as my SQLYoga object loses the schema for my db. When this happens closing and re-opening the IDE is the only thing that can try to fix it. All the while, these same stacks work flawlessly in StackRunner 2.0 I tried re-installing revEnterprise, and installing revEnterprise to another directory. Is this a problem with my code or something else entirely? I may have copied my sqlButton containing my SQLYoga Object to another stack along with the code that invoked it. Would this cause this sort of problem? I am at a loss for what to do. It wont really let me develop anymore without these very very large quirks. Any help or shared experience would be greatly appreciated. Learning revTalk while developing an app with it has left my program in a state semi-disarray and chock full of code revisions and refactoring. I am tempted to recreate what I have from the pool of spaghetti code. I am thinking this will take less time than cleaning up the code and debugging it. Thoughts on this? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Strange-behavior-in-the-IDE-tp2223808p2223808.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange behavior in the IDE
On May 19, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Learning revTalk while developing an app with it has left my program in a state semi-disarray and chock full of code revisions and refactoring. I am tempted to recreate what I have from the pool of spaghetti code. I am thinking this will take less time than cleaning up the code and debugging it. Thoughts on this? A long time ago, doing some consulting work for Claris (rememver them?) in a meeting, a very wise man whose name I have forgotten said something on the order of: Take any opportunity to rewrite your code. The first pancake is never the best! -- the other Jerry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Show Your Colors on Slashdot - Runrev Coverage about RevMobile Still Hot
Did my part. Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
Thanks Everyone... ... and Andre all try out you suggestion on the shell command when I get a second. I solved the issue by just looking a little closer and the man file for arecord and discoverd that I could just change the file format to one that Revolution could handle. It used -f u8 and that did the trick. I have one other question about getting the correct path to a directory in a standalone where I save my stack saves the audio file. It works fine when I'm in Revolution editor, but after I save it as a standalone it saves the audio file in the wrong location. I was under the impression that Windows and Linux did not have an issue with file paths when saved as standalones, but I may be doing something incorrectly. Here's what i have: put the effective filename of current stack into theTargetPath set the itemDel to / delete last item of theTargetPath delete first item of theTargetPath put / theTargetPath /recordings/ into theRecordingTarget convert the date the long time to seconds put it into tFileNameRec put tFileNameRec into cd fld audioFileName send mouseUp to btn Stop Recording in 10 secs put arecord -d 10 -fu8 -t wav into tShellCmd put shell(tschellCmdtheRecordingTargetFilenameRec) This works fine when I'm in the editor (saves to the recordings folder), but when I create a standalone the standalone saves the audio file as student in the location of the directory that I select to build the standalone. Any advice on what I'm missing with this little Linux process? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
HyperNext is hardly developed by 1 person. It is based on REALbasic, using RB's scripting language as its programming language. So the fact that it can play multiple sounds, run on multiple platforms, etc., comes courtesy of the hard work of the team at REAL Software. It would be about the same as giving Ken Ray credit for the amazing graphics capabilities of stackrunner (no offense, Ken). gc On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.tigabyte.com/docs/LanguageReference.pdf There are five dedicated sound channels and any sound or music file must be allocated to a channel. The idea of having sound channels so that 2 or more sounds can be played simultaneously comes up here from time to time; but never seems to get anywhere. Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
On 19/5/10 9:36 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Hi Andre, Ok I see. So we agree that Valentina can be used, of course, for WEB development in any way including Revolution, What you cannot now is to use vserver with rev-online service. I think that David is doing some web development since most of the uses of SimpleDB and RDS are related to web apps. Right now, we can't do web development with valentina and rev. Which is a pitty since valentina is deadly fast and provides the key-value stuff. Why you can't? Because revServer can't access externals, so the ADK for Rev does not work with revServer. It needs a pure revTalk library that talks to Valentina Server to work. Any OS platform. You install VSERVER, make your REV app. Host them together. What problems? Plus the same VSERVER can be touched by any other Valentina Client from C++, C#, ObjC ... To PHP, RB, REV, Director, ShockWave, ... As the above comment, with revServer we can't access any valentina for rev routines since it does not support externals. We would need a pure revTalk implementation. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #1
long long ago I wrote a full stack - XML - stack converter. It's been about ten years so I wouldn't be surprised if it's broken, but here: http://inspiredlogic.com/mc/ripper.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
On 19/5/10 9:47 PM, Brian Yennie bri...@qldlearning.com wrote: Warning, bad analogy on the way... That's kind of like observing a truck full of loose boulders ready to fly out the back. Isn't that what trucks are for, carrying heavy loads? Point being that yes, SQL is one means towards managing large amounts of tables, rows, data, etc -- but it still suffers if you throw just anything at it. Also I can just imagine maintaining the SQL for 1000 tables =). Just single query of course will not touch 1000 tables. Single query == human question. May be 2-3-4 logical objects are touched. Logical object - can take few tables of course. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloud computing: scalable DB
On 19/5/10 10:04 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Can valentina hold 6k tables and millions and millions of records? I could create a portable version of this system, almost a portable nightmare. In theory there is no limits. I have hear about 50-100GB dbs on Valentina. With many records. And only once I have hear about 1000+ tables db not so far. * So far not clear to me - why 6000 tables? They all really different and implement 6000 objects of real world? Or this is some optimization attempts to split info to reduce by vertical? * when your mails are generated from DB then A) how many queries is required to generate single letter? B) how many tables are touched for this? C) does different letters touch different tables? If yes then where is IF control? In the REV code? Or SQL? * what exactly is your problem(s) now? You do not like SQL because you write each day on it? But then by this logic members of this list should hate REV talk, and me should hate C++ :-) * and if your 6000 tables mirror lets says 1000 real world objects and rest is links between them ... Then you still have huge DOMAIN in your task. Even if translate this task to some OO language as C++/Java/PHP5/ObjC you still will need 1000 classes to mirror that real world objects. Right? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the Supercard manual #2
On 19/05/2010 23:51, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: Using Help From Within the Script Editor The Help System's Language Guide entries can be looked up automatically from within SuperCard's or SuperEdit's script editor window. Simply hilite the word you wish to lookup and press Command-?. If the help system is currently not running it will be launched and the Language Guide window will open to the hilited entry. If the highlighted word is not a SuperTalk word the help system will tell you. Yum! We already have that. That's funny; I tried that and it didn't work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
