Re: [ANN] Watch tRev's Conditional Breakpoints and Iteration Management

2010-05-22 Thread René Micout
Hello Jerry,
I have updated tRev with last version...
All work well (I think...)
Now I have work to explore all possibilities of tRev !
Thank you
Bon souvenir de Paris
René

Le 22 mai 2010 à 00:27, Jerry Daniels a écrit :

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Re: Who is the author of codes.widged?

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson



Who is the author of the website:
http://codes.widged.com ???



Presumably Marielle Lange.

I did some work for this person about 7 years ago when she was staying in
Edinburgh. The end result was not satisfactory insofar as she felt I had 
taken

a week to do something she could have done in a day; on pointing out that
if she were able to do it in a day there was no point in paying me to do the
thing our 'relationship' took a turn for the worse.

I understand she is now in New Zealand.
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Re: Who is the author of codes.widged?

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 22/05/2010 00:42, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Alejandro Tejada wrote:


Did anybody receive similar promises from
Runrev as codes.widged???


Of course not. Nor any of the other things claimed on that site.



Who is the author of the website:
http://codes.widged.com ?


Someone who's name I won't say here, because this list is publicly 
searchable. Just don't make her aware of you in any way. Once you are 
in her sights it is difficult to escape, and she will invent all sorts 
of imaginary things about you too. And then she will email all your 
friends with her stream-of-consciousness commentary as well.




Oops; Richmond's big mouth already has mentioned her name. And, I can 
bear you out; having experienced a lot

of psychobabble about 6-7 years ago.
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Re: Who is the author of codes.widged?

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 22/05/2010 02:52, zryip theSlug wrote:

2010/5/21 J. Landman Gayjac...@hyperactivesw.com:

Alejandro Tejada wrote:


Did anybody receive similar promises from
Runrev as codes.widged???

Of course not. Nor any of the other things claimed on that site.


Who is the author of the website:
http://codes.widged.com ?

Someone who's name I won't say here, because this list is publicly
searchable. Just don't make her aware of you in any way. Once you are in her
sights it is difficult to escape, and she will invent all sorts of imaginary
things about you too. And then she will email all your friends with her
stream-of-consciousness commentary as well.

The only thing I could say that see her profile on the web, given to
me a bad feeling.
I'm sure she's not a slug's friend.


She'll probably put salt on your tail . . . :)  Elle n'aime pas les limaces!



Regards,


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[OT] A Big, Big Thank You to JLG!

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 I hosed my Linux box the other day (living too close to
the edge) so had to reinstall.

Reinstalled Ubuntu 10.04 followed by my licenced
version of RunRev 4 for Linux; 60 minutes.

The connected via revOnline to JLG's Metacard
setup stack and had Metacard 4 up and running
inside 10 minutes: Wow, Wow and Wow again!

Thank you Jacque! You're a star.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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Re: Who is the author of codes.widged?

2010-05-22 Thread René Micout
Elle pense peut-être que la bave de la limace (du crapaud ...) n'atteint pas 
la blanche colombe
;-)

Le 22 mai 2010 à 10:00, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

 She'll probably put salt on your tail . . . :)  Elle n'aime pas les limaces!

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Re: Who is the author of codes.widged?

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 22/05/2010 11:11, René Micout wrote:

Elle pense peut-être que la bave de la limace (du crapaud ...) n'atteint pas la 
blanche colombe
;-)



Toujours Je suis un crapaud brun avec pustules noirs; et Je vais manger 
tous les colombes blanches

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Re: Who is the author of codes.widged?

2010-05-22 Thread René Micout
Bon appétit !
;-)

Le 22 mai 2010 à 10:15, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

 On 22/05/2010 11:11, René Micout wrote:
 Elle pense peut-être que la bave de la limace (du crapaud ...) n'atteint 
 pas la blanche colombe
 ;-)
 
 
 Toujours Je suis un crapaud brun avec pustules noirs; et Je vais manger tous 
 les colombes blanches
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When it reaches Newsweek....

2010-05-22 Thread Peter Alcibiades
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2010/05/20/sayonara-
iphone-why-i-m-switching-to-android.aspx

MSM is noticing, its getting dangerous:

Today the battlefield is mobile devices, and just as before, Apple jumped 
out to an early lead. And just as before, Jobs got selfish. He won't 
support Flash, or any cross-platform tools—because he wants developers 
locked into his platform, and his App Store, where he collects a 30 percent 
commission.
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Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev

2010-05-22 Thread Kay C Lan
Andre,

thanks for the pointers. Got everything working plus after playing with
phpPgAdmin found a few more features.

Much appreciated.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Hi There Kay,

 What is the format of the data? Is it a csv file or something? Because if
 it
 is a text file, then you can upload the text file to your on-rev account
 and
 then use a SQL command such as COPY to parse and load the file. You don't
 need a option in phpPgAdmin to do it, you can just write the SQL command
 there.

 Check out http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/sql-copy.html

 With this you'll be able to load a csv (or similar) file into postgresql

 It is not as straight forward as LOAD DATA INFILE but it is close.

 Cheers
 andre



 On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I'm guessing Andre is the guru to answer this one.
 
  How does one populate a postgreSQL db on On-Rev in bulk?
 
  MySQL's phpMyAdmin gives you both an Import option and the ability to
 enter
  raw SQL commands, ie LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE, but the postgreSQL's
  phpPgAdmin
  has neither option.
 
  I'm not going to manually type in thousands of records.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  And Ruslan, if you're reading, if On-Rev offered Valentina Free Server,
 I'd
  be trying to figure out how to do this with Valentina rather than
  postgreSQL, especially as I'd assume it would be as easy as using
 Valentina
  Studio's Connect to... Server option.
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Windows 7 Question

2010-05-22 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon

Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

I know little about PC's  :)

But now I have my answers. By searching in
Google for windir and systemroot, I
found systemdrive which does exactly
what I want !

Thanks Paul, thanks Steve !

-Francis

Nothing should ever be done for the first time !







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Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev

2010-05-22 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 I wouldn't look at it that way. You can get an all day ticket at
 Disneyland. You can ride all the rides, or just some of them, or none at
 all. You can't get a cheaper ticket if you promise not to ride some of the
 rides. It's kind of like that.


Well it would be if Disneyland offered 'sepecial pensioners' day ticket for
$72. Pensioners, who are unlikely to run around like mad and get on as many
rides as possible, might think that this a good deal and conclude that
Disney are doing the right thing by pensioners - but the normal day ticket
is $72.

[THE ABOVE IS HYPOTHETICAL, DISNEY DO NOT DO THIS]

mySQL offers it's db free for non-profit. If I were a non-profit I would
assume that it would cost me less to use mySQL than for a commercial outfit.
I appreciate that for LAN use, a non-profit can use mySQL free whilst a
commercial adventure has to pay. I'm just surprised that a commercial
enterprise can save money by moving it's db off a LAN and onto a web host
and have someone else pay their mySQL licensing fees.
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Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev

2010-05-22 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 22/5/10 1:25 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:

 [THE ABOVE IS HYPOTHETICAL, DISNEY DO NOT DO THIS]
 
 mySQL offers it's db free for non-profit. If I were a non-profit I would
 assume that it would cost me less to use mySQL than for a commercial outfit.

 I appreciate that for LAN use, a non-profit can use mySQL free whilst a
 commercial adventure has to pay. I'm just surprised that a commercial
 enterprise can save money by moving it's db off a LAN and onto a web host
 and have someone else pay their mySQL licensing fees.

I will not say that below 100% true, but I believe I have read that on
different lists and mySQL license site

* free for not profit? Okay.

but do you know that on their site was said:

if developer have developed app for use in company (!)
of that developer -- license must be paid.


* mySQL server is free for ISP itself.
but if ISP now give access to his clients,
clients should pay commercial license.


May be something was changed after Oracle get mySQL,
I did not check last year.


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev

2010-05-22 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin 
ruslan_zasuk...@valentina-db.com wrote:


 * mySQL server is free for ISP itself.
but if ISP now give access to his clients,
clients should pay commercial license.


That seems sensible to me. I was just replying to comments made by Bob and
in many respects made by yourself in another Thread. Andre mentioned using
Valentina Free Server on On-Rev, but you countered that On-Rev was
commercial therefore it should be Valentina Office Server.

So given that Valentina offers Valentina Free Server for non-profits, like
churches, how is possible for a church to create an online Address Book db,
if you've stated that On-Rev would have to  use the commercial Valentina
Office Server?

I'd love to see Valentina offered as an option on On-Rev, but if it is at
additional cost, because it's Officer Server, then I'll have to continue
with postgreSQL because my dbs are all non-profit.
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Re: revLet: dynamic resizing when browser window resizes

2010-05-22 Thread David Bovill
Hi fellow coders, just figured out the way to fix this visual glitch.
Essentially you can't use the geometry manager at this stage - you need to
use a resizeStack handler and code it yourself.

Interestingly the following geometry seems to work:

the screenrect: 0,0,1440,900
 the rect of this card: 0,0,868,504
 the rect of this stack: 274,212,1142,716


all though setting the width of the card does not - which would have been a
lot of fun.

Here is the test revLet - http://www.revtalk.org/tests/Test/test.html which
seems to work well - though there are a few occasional flashes of grey on
FireFox OSX.


On 20 May 2010 22:50, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote:

 Created a stack with the geometry manager so that the field resizes.
 Uploaded it as a revLet and modified the HTML so that the width and height
 are 80% instead of fixed numbers:

 object classid=CLSID:B2EC94AF-4716-4300-824A-3314BF23664A width=80%
 height=80%
 param name=src value=Test.revlet/
 param name=stack value=Test/
 param name=requestedName value=/
 param name=instanceID value=/
 embed type=application/x-revolution
 src=Test.revlet
 width=80% height=80%
 stack=Test
 requestedName=
 instanceID=
 /embed
 /object


 It resizes nicely - but it does not load nicely. Any ideas how to fix the
 loading so it resizes to the appropriate size?

 You can see the revLet here:  http://www.revtalk.org/tests/Test/test.html


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Re: [ANN] Watch tRev's Conditional Breakpoints and Iteration Management

2010-05-22 Thread Jerry Daniels
A bientöt!

On May 22, 2010, at 2:32 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:

 Hello Jerry,
 I have updated tRev with last version...
 All work well (I think...)
 Now I have work to explore all possibilities of tRev !
 Thank you
 Bon souvenir de Paris
 René
 
 Le 22 mai 2010 à 00:27, Jerry Daniels a écrit :
 
 Lovers of debuggers,
 
 Learn all about making your tRev breakpoints super smart—and how to use our 
 brand new breakpoint iteration navigator:
 
  http://reveditor.com/conditional-breakpoints-and-time-travelers-wi-0
 
 Best,
 
 Jerry Daniels
 
 Use tRev's buy link during your 7 day free trial to get 20% off:
 http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch
 
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Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev

2010-05-22 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 22/5/10 2:15 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin 
 ruslan_zasuk...@valentina-db.com wrote:
 
 
 * mySQL server is free for ISP itself.
but if ISP now give access to his clients,
clients should pay commercial license.
 
 
 That seems sensible to me. I was just replying to comments made by Bob and
 in many respects made by yourself in another Thread. Andre mentioned using
 Valentina Free Server on On-Rev, but you countered that On-Rev was
 commercial therefore it should be Valentina Office Server.
 
 So given that Valentina offers Valentina Free Server for non-profits, like
 churches, how is possible for a church to create an online Address Book db,
 if you've stated that On-Rev would have to  use the commercial Valentina
 Office Server?

If REV-ONLINE will use Valentina Office Server
(on any agreement)

Then we do not care how many dbs/users is used there.
We sale - instance of vserver.

So as far as I see, usage of vserver should not change price model of
rev-online seri


 I'd love to see Valentina offered as an option on On-Rev, but if it is at
 additional cost, because it's Officer Server, then I'll have to continue
 with postgreSQL because my dbs are all non-profit.

As far as I see, REV can pay once for single copy of vserver and after that
start earn on that.

Postgre always is a good choice now, because nobody even discuss yet really
usage of vserver there. Only we here on list :)


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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Re: codes.widged

2010-05-22 Thread Mike Harland
Could somebody please substantiate the claims that Ms Lange purports to have 
disproved?

I find it disturbing to see that people on this list are behaving as she 
describes.

Mike
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Re: codes.widged

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 22/05/2010 17:15, Mike Harland wrote:

Could somebody please substantiate the claims that Ms Lange purports to have 
disproved?


What does she purport to have disproved?


I find it disturbing to see that people on this list are behaving as she 
describes.


Where and what does she describe?


Mike


A long time ago, in another country; when Ms Lange and I were some 6-7 years
younger . . . treat the whole thing as a minor, heretical, episode of 
star wars . . .  :)


No doubt she and I are both older and wiser now.

I have no quarrel with Ms Lange now; and I see no reason why she
should have one with me.

At the time, however, I did (as did the Use-List) receive a number of
messages which were distinctly odd. I, myself, have also been guilty of
sending distinctly odd messages in the past.

So, please look upon my earlier posting as of historical interest only.

Other people, I believe, have been in touch with her more recently; their
opinions are probably more valuable in the long run.
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RE: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev

2010-05-22 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi Kay,

 That seems sensible to me. I was just replying to comments 
 made by Bob and in many respects made by yourself in another 
 Thread. Andre mentioned using Valentina Free Server on 
 On-Rev, but you countered that On-Rev was commercial 
 therefore it should be Valentina Office Server.
 
 So given that Valentina offers Valentina Free Server for 
 non-profits, like churches, how is possible for a church to 
 create an online Address Book db, if you've stated that 
 On-Rev would have to  use the commercial Valentina Office Server?
 
 I'd love to see Valentina offered as an option on On-Rev, but 
 if it is at additional cost, because it's Officer Server, 
 then I'll have to continue with postgreSQL because my dbs are 
 all non-profit.

Business guy here, Valentina hat on :-)

Valentina on On-Rev is still a topic on the table. The reality is that a
malicious curveball launched from a location in California is causing a
momentary distraction to all parties. What Ruslan is talking about is how
other products are licensed to ISPs, who then make choices about how they
handle passing those costs onto their customers. Too many variables at this
point to make much of it as of today.

Another consideration is that On-Rev is currently a combination of app
server licensing + ISP. A new dimension appears when/if On-Rev's App Server
becomes available for licensing to customers so they can run it on their
own.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server 

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Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev

2010-05-22 Thread Richard Gaskin

Kay C Lan wrote:


mySQL offers it's db free for non-profit.


Kinda sorta.

MySQL is released under the GPL, so you can grab the source for free, 
compile it yourself, and sell it for $1000 if you like.


But there's one catch:  anything you make with it must also have its 
source available, and anyone could download your source and sell it too. 
 Or give it away.  Or modify it so it draws dancing chickens all over 
the user's screen if that's what they want to do, so long as they also 
make their source available.


GPL moves the cost-of-entry from cash to skills: rather than be required 
to pay for it with money, you can pay for it with time to set up a C 
compiler and run a make file.


It's only for closed-source projects that a copy of MySQL can be 
obtained under a separate proprietary license.


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How to Dial Using Rev ?

2010-05-22 Thread gary_aitcheson
Hi - I am a long time OOP user, Rev fan and message board lurker.  I 
have a totally off topic question. Many years ago I built a program that 
will dial a phone number through the modem port and then hang up.  My 
handset is on a Y connection to the phone line so it stays open and I 
can speak to the dialed number.  The program records all the time date 
info etc so it is very handy for keeping track of things. Originally I 
wrote it in HyperCard then SuperCard etc where a simple Dial command 
followed by the number was sufficient.  Unfortunately Rev does not have 
this function.  However back in 2005 ago there was a brief discussion 
about this online and I was very lucky to find this little piece of code 
that works perfectly for my PC.


   put *67 before theNumber
   open file com3: for write
   write ATS7=1L0DT  theNumber  cr to file com3:
   wait 5 secs
   close file com3:

I do not understand much of this, but it appears that it's usual 
function is to dial a fax machine in order to transmit letters etc.


My problem is that I want to use this dialing program on my iMac running 
OS X but unfortunately it does not function there.  I imagine the 
dialing code is similar, but figuring it out is beyond my expertise. 
Does anyone have any suggestions at to what to do, where to look, who to 
ask, etc ?


Cheers

Gary
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Re: codes.widged

2010-05-22 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mike Harland wrote:

 Could somebody please substantiate the claims that Ms Lange purports
 to have disproved?

RunRev already has:
http://twitter.com/runrev/status/5835931956

Her claims at http://codes.widged.com/node/8 rest around the 
misrepresentation that the MetaCard engine is somehow different from the 
Rev engine (there is only one engine regardless of which IDE stacks you 
use with it; you can even make your own, as Jerry and I and others 
have), and that the acquisition of MetaCard Corp's technology and 
customer base never happened (it did, in July 2003):

http://www.runrev.com/company/press-room/press-release-archive/revolution-buys-metacard

And FWIW, the page where she makes this misrepresentation contains at 
least one copyright violation, a screen shot for a product owned by one 
of my clients for whom we had granted permission to MetaCard Corp. to 
host in the context provided at metacard.com, but my client has not 
given permission for deep-linking to use the image in a different 
context such as her blog.


A cease-and-desist has been sent.


 I find it disturbing to see that people on this list are behaving
 as she describes.

One could just as well ask why her definitions of others' behavior 
shouldn't apply to her own public attacks against RunRev and this community.


A lot of people type a lot of stuff all over the Internet.

As noted above, not everything one reads on the Internet is true.

When attacks are posted anonymously that should be a warning sign to the 
reader that the material may be suspect.  Earnest writers stand behind 
their words.


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Re: How to Dial Using Rev ?

2010-05-22 Thread DunbarX
I still use a bunch of hyperdialer gadgets that connect between a handset 
and the telephone. The HC dial command generates DTMF tones, so that in 
an address book, a one line script will dial the number. In fact, before I 
found those devices (20 years ago) it was possible to have the tones played 
over the speakers. If you held the handset up close, one could dial a number 
perfectly well.

But I only replied to say that I thought all HC commands were supported in 
Rev to the extent that they at least did nothing. But there is no dial in 
the dictionary. Are there others?

Craig Newman
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How do I decompress BZ2 files?

2010-05-22 Thread Bill Vlahos
My hosting company compresses their log files using bz2. I can download the 
files and the Mac will decompress them when I double click.

The Rev decompress command looks like it uses gzip which is different.

Is there a way in Rev to decompress the file in the bz2 format so that I can do 
it all in Rev or do I need to do the steps manually? This only needs to work on 
the Mac.

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[OT] Divine Bliss

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 Elsewhere on the Use-List I read this:

you are invited to give up everything else and count
on runrev alone to bring you happiness and success.

Nobody in the RunRev community ever invited me
to do anything of the sort.

HOWEVER . . .

Since I discovered RunRev about 9 years ago I
can honestly say, with the odd 'foray' into
Hypernext, I have stuck to RunRev/Metacard
98% of the time and it has given me very little but
happiness, and my 'Devawriter' has been a success.

While I wouldn't advocate giving everything else
up, I would advocate getting into RunRev in a big
way; the deeper one digs the more 'gold' one
finds
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Re: How do I decompress BZ2 files?

2010-05-22 Thread Christian Langers

Hi Bill,

you might try shell()...

http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/bzip2.1.html

e.g. put bunzip2 -k  tSource  tDestination into tShellScript
put/get shell(tShellScript)

and escape space with \  in the path part...

This might work,

Christian


On 22/05/10 18:50, Bill Vlahos wrote:

My hosting company compresses their log files using bz2. I can download the 
files and the Mac will decompress them when I double click.

The Rev decompress command looks like it uses gzip which is different.

Is there a way in Rev to decompress the file in the bz2 format so that I can do 
it all in Rev or do I need to do the steps manually? This only needs to work on 
the Mac.

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Re: How to Dial Using Rev ?

2010-05-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi Gary,

Look at these pages from Ken Ray's website:
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm#port
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/port001.htm

 Hello, 
 
 Few years ago, I have used the dial function
 in Hypercard, e.g. : dial 0555 
 
 What is the corresponding function in Metacard?

There is none in MetaCard. You could try to build
something like that yourself. E.g.:

on dial dNumber
  open file modem: for write
  write ATDT  dNumber to file modem:
  close file modem:
end dial dNumber
Regards, Sjoerd

Posted 2/28/2002 by Sjoerd Op 't Land to the MetaCard List
(See the complete post/thread)

Macintosh users that want to dial a Phone number from
MetaCard using a Global Village Voice-Modem must
add return after dNumber.

on dial dNumber -- function by Sjoerd Op 't Land
  open file modem: for write
  write ATDT  dNumber  return to file modem:
end dial dNumber

As I don't want to close the modem immediately
after dialing, I put the last handler in a button:

on mouseUp
  close file modem:
end mouseUp

Modified 4/8/2002 by Alejandro Tejada
to the MetaCard List



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Re: codes.widged

2010-05-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mike Harland wrote:

Could somebody please substantiate the claims that Ms Lange purports
to have disproved?

I find it disturbing to see that people on this list are behaving as
she describes.


Mike, this person is not credible in any way. She has proved it 
repeatedly. There is a history that goes back many years, and I'm 
confident that if you knew it, you'd agree.


You should use your own experience with us about how list participants 
behave. Have you ever seen anything like she describes? I have not. I 
have, however, seen many, many instances where list members praise the 
people here and say that it is one of the most welcoming and helpful 
groups they've ever known.


There is a disconnect in this person's mind between what happens and 
what she thinks happened. Anyone who has had dealings with her in the 
past will understand what I mean.


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Re: revLet: dynamic resizing when browser window resizes

2010-05-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi David,


David Bovill-4 wrote:
 
 Hi fellow coders, just figured out the way
 to fix this visual glitch.
 Essentially you can't use the geometry
 manager at this stage - you need to
 use a resizeStack handler and code
 it yourself.
 
 Interestingly the following geometry
 seems to work:
 
 the screenrect: 0,0,1440,900
 the rect of this card: 0,0,868,504
 the rect of this stack: 274,212,1142,716
 

Many thanks for posting this information! :-)

I have been thinking about how to solve
the desconfiguration of screen interfaces
when users rezise stacks, or in this case
resizes the webpage.

This problem is especially notorious when
stacks have multiple cards.

Recreating and/or resizing all the elements
of the card interface in a preopencard
handler could position and resize correctly
most controls.

This solution requires to describe all widths,
heights and location of controls as proportions
of card dimensions using (like html) percents.

Have you created such handlers to manage
proportionally position and dimensions of
controls in a card?

Thanks in advance!

Alejandro

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Re: How do I decompress BZ2 files?

2010-05-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Windows users could use code
like this:

put D:/myFiles/mybzip2file.bz2 into tOpenfile
put C:/Developer/bzip2.exe -dkc   tOpenfile into tBzip
set the hideconsolewindows to true
get shell(tBzip)

Now the contents of bzip2 file is
in the variable named it
Then, you could save this content
in another file or display inside
a field (if bz2 file content is text):

put it into fld displaybz2file
or
put char 1 to -4 of tOpenfile  gz into tnewfile
put compress(it) into URL (binfile:  tnewfile)


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Re: [OT] A Big, Big Thank You to JLG!

2010-05-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

 I hosed my Linux box the other day (living too close to
the edge) so had to reinstall.

Reinstalled Ubuntu 10.04 followed by my licenced
version of RunRev 4 for Linux; 60 minutes.

The connected via revOnline to JLG's Metacard
setup stack and had Metacard 4 up and running
inside 10 minutes: Wow, Wow and Wow again!

Thank you Jacque! You're a star.


Thanks. Glad it's still working well and that it's useful.

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[OT] Emsisoft

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 I have been sorting out several machines for a client;
an office that uses a mixture of machines running
Windows XP, Ubuntu and MintLinux. The Windows
machines work in an intranet that has no connexion to
the internet or to the other intranet consisting of
the Linux boxes that are connected to the internet.

One job I had to do was to take 2 hard disks out of a
Pentium 4 running XP and pop them into a faster
machine. However the machine was running slowly
and behaving queerly; so, although it has not direct
contact with the internet I thought just for fun I
would run some anti-virus stuff on it.

I downloaded Emsisoft because it allows one a
3 day full-featured trial. It is extremely impressive
insofar as it does a job which I don't believe should
be necessary on any operating system in an efficient manner.

Well my just for fun very rapidly became egg all
over the face when it became clear that the Windows
machines were infected with an even dozen of nasties;
the most ugly being

Trojan.Win32.FakeAV!IK and

Trojan-Downloader.Agent!IK

The only way I can account for these computers having become
infected is through workers in this office transferring infected
MSWord and MSExcel files from the Linux boxes to the Windows
ones with USB Flash drives.

The only other possibility is that the staff are being 'disingenuous',
and have also been using their Flash drives on computers running
Windows at home or elsewhere.

---

As an essentially Non-Windows person (and my recent finding
only serves to make me even more 'Non' than I was before) I
should be very grateful if somebody who knows more about this
than I do (well, that shouldn't be difficult) could tell me:

1.  Can virusus / trojans attach themselves to MSWord / Excel documents?

2.  Can viruses be downloaded simultaneously as documents onto USB sticks
 plugged into Linux boxes that then infect Windows boxes on transfer?


sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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libURLftpCommand help required please....

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Earp

I'm trying to send an ftp command to a site, and being a neophyte at these 
things I'm not having much success.  This is what I'm using, what's wrong with 
it ?
put libURLftpCommand(LIST,ashford.ca,t...@ashford.ca,myTest) into fld 
results
The example above is using LIST as the ftp command,  ashford.ca as the host 
address, t...@ashford.ca is the username and myTest is the password.  If I use 
the same parameters in FileZilla all works OK.  Yes, these are all real 
parameters, at least until I get things going and delete the ftp site ;-)
Eventually I'm hoping to read  write permissions of a file in that location.  
When I finally get things going I promise I'll share a sample app that demos 
how this all works, for anybody who is interested.  Then again, maybe there is 
one already out there somewhere ? 
Many thanks in advance, Bob...
Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia 
  
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Re: libURLftpCommand help required please....

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Bob,

First of all, we'll need to know the result or any errors that occur.  
Second, it seems that you forgot a few quotes:


put libURLftpCommand(LIST,ashford.ca,t...@ashford.ca,myTest)  
into fld results


and third the address almost always consists of 3 elements, e.g. ftp.ashford.ca 
.


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On 22 mei 2010, at 21:38, Bob Earp wrote:



I'm trying to send an ftp command to a site, and being a neophyte at  
these things I'm not having much success.  This is what I'm using,  
what's wrong with it ?
put libURLftpCommand(LIST,ashford.ca,t...@ashford.ca,myTest)  
into fld results
The example above is using LIST as the ftp command,  ashford.ca as  
the host address, t...@ashford.ca is the username and myTest is the  
password.  If I use the same parameters in FileZilla all works OK.   
Yes, these are all real parameters, at least until I get things  
going and delete the ftp site ;-)
Eventually I'm hoping to read  write permissions of a file in that  
location.  When I finally get things going I promise I'll share a  
sample app that demos how this all works, for anybody who is  
interested.  Then again, maybe there is one already out there  
somewhere ?

Many thanks in advance, Bob...
Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia



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Re: [OT] Emsisoft

2010-05-22 Thread Neal Campbell
Some of the nastiest and earliest viruses were macro viruses in excel and
word documents. Most corporate machines prevent macro's from allowable
execution without a warning (if they allow it at all). Also, thumb drives
are possibly the biggest threat to corporate computers. An audit team from a
top 3 firm I know tested the security mechanisms in a company by dropping
infected thumb drives in the parking lot and watching how people picked them
up and plugged them into the corporate computers.

As the thumb drives, like cds/dvds, will play an autoplay file when mounted,
its a perfect way to inject a virus if people allow it to run.

Most secure shops prohibit thumb drives.

Best wishes
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
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RE: libURLftpCommand help required please....

2010-05-22 Thread Jim Bufalini
And fourth, which version of Rev are you using?

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

Mark Schonewille wrote:
 
 Hi Bob,
 
 First of all, we'll need to know the result or any errors that occur.
 Second, it seems that you forgot a few quotes:
 
 put libURLftpCommand(LIST,ashford.ca,t...@ashford.ca,myTest)
 into fld results
 
 and third the address almost always consists of 3 elements, e.g.
 ftp.ashford.ca
 .
 
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 quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
 Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and
 share the clipboard of your computer over the local network.
 
 On 22 mei 2010, at 21:38, Bob Earp wrote:
 
 
  I'm trying to send an ftp command to a site, and being a neophyte at
  these things I'm not having much success.  This is what I'm using,
  what's wrong with it ?
  put libURLftpCommand(LIST,ashford.ca,t...@ashford.ca,myTest)
  into fld results
  The example above is using LIST as the ftp command,  ashford.ca as
  the host address, t...@ashford.ca is the username and myTest is the
  password.  If I use the same parameters in FileZilla all works OK.
  Yes, these are all real parameters, at least until I get things
  going and delete the ftp site ;-)
  Eventually I'm hoping to read  write permissions of a file in that
  location.  When I finally get things going I promise I'll share a
  sample app that demos how this all works, for anybody who is
  interested.  Then again, maybe there is one already out there
  somewhere ?
  Many thanks in advance, Bob...
  Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia
 
 
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Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread Marty Knapp
OK, so I got the A stack with the same name as the one you are trying 
to load is already open message and I've tried all the options: Save - 
Purge - Cancel and nothing gets me anywhere. I quit Rev, start it up 
again and get the same message when I try to open one of the stacks. I 
quit, reboot the computer, try it again and I still can't get the same 
message and the stack won't open . . . Is this weird or what? How can it 
still be in memory after quitting or rebooting?


Thanks for any help,

Mart Knapp
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Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for anupdated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audiocomplementary library!)

2010-05-22 Thread Robert Mann

I find their licensing terms really fine and I like their attitude too. This
library really smells good to me.

So I have emailed them too. Technically I have not yet used external
libraries. As I understand it we have to create a runrev wrapper in the X
code environment. I guess if one makes one, it can be used by any other, so
long their usage sticks to the license. Since there is a free step and we
should to test it out, if it was something easy to do for an externals
specialist, it would be a great help to share this wrapper. (I took time
to read the rev artice on how to use externals).


Also, considering the technicalities of dealing with audio, I understand
that runrev have not commited to it. Now a specific global agreement
allowing runrev to incorporate the major most required functions would be
great!! Special needs would be covered by an additional library with a
direct license from BASS.

Anybody in touch with the runrev team personnaly?

As for sharing things over here, I 'll exchange the BASS wrapper for the
workaround audio trick I found to record mp3 in a stack, as shared revOnline
stacks!  My position is to share technical tricks that should not pose
problems (normally or ideally?) but that in practice  lead to
headaches... that one should not wish for your neigbhour!!!


Stephen Barncard-4 wrote:
 
 I saw no wrong on the licensing. I like their attitude, their pricing
 model.
 Pretty reasonable, even cheap, if one would ask me. Look, this stuff is
 used
 for professional applications, is not easy to write, and the authors
 deserve
 payment. And they are not charging royalties. How could one expect
 quality,
 free, and supported to be in the same product?
 
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Re: [OT] Emsisoft

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 22/05/2010 23:20, Neal Campbell wrote:

Some of the nastiest and earliest viruses were macro viruses in excel and
word documents. Most corporate machines prevent macro's from allowable
execution without a warning (if they allow it at all). Also, thumb drives
are possibly the biggest threat to corporate computers. An audit team from a
top 3 firm I know tested the security mechanisms in a company by dropping
infected thumb drives in the parking lot and watching how people picked them
up and plugged them into the corporate computers.

As the thumb drives, like cds/dvds, will play an autoplay file when mounted,
its a perfect way to inject a virus if people allow it to run.

Most secure shops prohibit thumb drives.

Thank you for that useful information.

However; all my client's computers (whether they run Windows or Linux)
use Open Office; I was unaware that a Word Macro virus could operate
via Open Office.
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Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for anupdated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audiocomplementary library!)

2010-05-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi all,

Remember these externals that plays MOD music:

For Mac OS X, Andre Garzia published in 2007:

RevMikMod is an external for MacOS X Runtime Revolution.
It is built upon on MikMod library which is licensed with LGPL,
so this is freeware with source. This external uses Carbon
Thread API, the music will play on another thread so there's
no performance issue. You can play only one music at a time
but you can change speed, tempo and volume. 

http://andregarzia.com/revmikmod.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg98790.html

FMODforRev external published by Bill Griffin  Tobias Opfermann in 2003,
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-October/025163.html

Fmod is a music library that is free to use in freeware products, and 
costs varying amounts of money for other shareware and commercial uses. 
http://www.fmod.org/ has more info on that.

(Not available from authors website, but probably some
developers have these externals among their Backup files)

Mac Version: http://www.igame3d.com/FMODforRev.sit
PC Version: http://www.igame3d.com/FMODforRev.zip

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Re: [OT] Emsisoft

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Neal-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:20:38 PM, you wrote:

 Most secure shops prohibit thumb drives.

...and disable autoplay as well.

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Re: Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread Paul Looney

Marty,
I've had a few incidences of this, where the only thing that worked  
was to shut down the computer (not just restart it).

A complete shut down always worked.
Fortunately, this has been very rare - once or twice a year.
Good luck.
Paul Looney

On 23/05/2010, at 8:27 AM, Marty Knapp wrote:

OK, so I got the A stack with the same name as the one you are  
trying to load is already open message and I've tried all the  
options: Save - Purge - Cancel and nothing gets me anywhere. I quit  
Rev, start it up again and get the same message when I try to open  
one of the stacks. I quit, reboot the computer, try it again and I  
still can't get the same message and the stack won't open . . . Is  
this weird or what? How can it still be in memory after quitting or  
rebooting?


Thanks for any help,

Mart Knapp
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Re: Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Marty-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:27:56 PM, you wrote:

 OK, so I got the A stack with the same name as the one you are trying
 to load is already open message and I've tried all the options: Save -

What's the name of the stack you're trying to open? Could it be the
same as one of the existing stacks in the IDE or a plugin stack?

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Re: [OT] Emsisoft

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:34:20 PM, you wrote:

 However; all my client's computers (whether they run Windows or Linux)
 use Open Office; I was unaware that a Word Macro virus could operate
 via Open Office.

If macro execution is not disabled then there's no reason why a macro
virus shouldn't propagate. I realize that's tautological, but you
asked...

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Re: Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread Marty Knapp
The name isn't a problem - it's not a plugin or IDE stack name. I've 
been using it for over a year. I do have another stack of the same name 
in a different directory. When I build a standalone I take the original 
and do some things to it, then copy it to a different folder before the 
build. On the rare occasions I've had trouble before, I just quit and 
restarted. The weird part now is that the problem persists after quiting 
and even after rebooting the computer. It's like there's something in a 
cache file or something. I've even loaded up the project in a secondary 
copy of Rev and get the same problem . . .


Marty

Marty-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:27:56 PM, you wrote:

  

OK, so I got the A stack with the same name as the one you are trying
to load is already open message and I've tried all the options: Save -



What's the name of the stack you're trying to open? Could it be the
same as one of the existing stacks in the IDE or a plugin stack?

  


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Re: [OT] Emsisoft

2010-05-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 22/05/2010 23:47, Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:34:20 PM, you wrote:


However; all my client's computers (whether they run Windows or Linux)
use Open Office; I was unaware that a Word Macro virus could operate
via Open Office.

If macro execution is not disabled then there's no reason why a macro
virus shouldn't propagate. I realize that's tautological, but you
asked...


Right; first thing tomorrow I will have to disable macro execution
on all 10 machines.

Thanks so much.

As 99% of my work is with Linux and Mac I had actually forgotten about
Word Macro viruses, although I had one messing up my LC 475 in
illinois a while back.
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Re: Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Marty Knapp wrote:
The name isn't a problem - it's not a plugin or IDE stack name. I've 
been using it for over a year. I do have another stack of the same name 
in a different directory. When I build a standalone I take the original 
and do some things to it, then copy it to a different folder before the 
build. On the rare occasions I've had trouble before, I just quit and 
restarted. The weird part now is that the problem persists after quiting 
and even after rebooting the computer. It's like there's something in a 
cache file or something. I've even loaded up the project in a secondary 
copy of Rev and get the same problem . . .


It sounds like the stack is opening automatically on launch. If it isn't 
a rev-related stack, then look for a plugin or frontscript that opens 
it, puts it in use, or requests data from it. Any of those things will 
load it into memory. Also, the next time you have it open, make sure the 
destroystack property is set to true.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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RE: When it reaches Newsweek....

2010-05-22 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2010/05
 /20/sayonara-
 iphone-why-i-m-switching-to-android.aspx
 
 MSM is noticing, its getting dangerous:
 
 Today the battlefield is mobile devices, and just as before, 
 Apple jumped out to an early lead. And just as before, Jobs 
 got selfish. He won't support Flash, or any cross-platform 
 tools-because he wants developers locked into his platform, 
 and his App Store, where he collects a 30 percent commission.

Just begging for comments :-)

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server 

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altAccordion problem

2010-05-22 Thread charles61

I am having problems with the accordion menu that I created with
altAccordion. The appearance of my menu has gray headers and the sub headers
have a white background with black fonts on my Mac. When I make standalones,
the menu has the same appearance on my Mac but in Windows XP the green
background of my card bleeds through my menu changing the gray and white to
green. 

I read the docs but there is nothing pertaining to the color of the menu
created with altAccordion. And the Inspector show not show any color
selected although the menu is gray.

Anybody have any suggestions on how to fix this problem?
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Monitor Shell Copy File Progress

2010-05-22 Thread Sivakatirswami
Work working on an in-house file manager - RCS for Indesign (since Adobe 
did an end of life for Version Cue)


It's coming along well, in fact really well.

One challenge is that I'm using  lots of these:

  put (mv   quote  gLocalFilePath  quote   quote  
(gLocalProjectPath / tShortFileName)  quote) into tShell

   get shell (tShell)

   put (cp   quote  (gLocalProjectPath / tShortFileName)  
quote   quote  (gServerProjectPath / tShortFileName)  quote) 
into tShell

   get shell (tShell)

to more files around and rename them... it works great.

Is there a way to monitor a background shell process like this?

The problem is if you copy from the Big Server on the LAN... to my 
Little MacBook Pro... you won't know when the file is completely copied 
to the local hard drive before doing:


 launch (gLocalProjectPath /  pFileName) with the uInDesignPath 
of this stack


Typically RunRev will issue the unix cp command and then immediately 
launch inDesign, which crokes because the file is incomplete on the 
local hard drive.


Now I have some ideas about how to do this: get the checksum some of the 
remote file, do a send in 30 ticks (repeatedly) test of the local file 
until the local file's checksum matches the remote file and then launch it.


But before I go after this, I was wondering if anyone had any other 
method?  Most cool would be a progress bar, but I'm not sure RunRev 
can monitor a local unix copy file processor, if it can, how to do it.


Thanks!
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Re: Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread Marty Knapp
I figured it out - this stack is a template and I have an openstack 
routine to check a version number to see if it needs to be updated. The 
stack that it checks is the same name as my original so I scripted 
around that and I'm fine. Thanks to Paul, Mark and Jacque for the input 
though! Once you figure these things out it seems so clear!


Marty

Marty Knapp wrote:
The name isn't a problem - it's not a plugin or IDE stack name. I've 
been using it for over a year. I do have another stack of the same 
name in a different directory. When I build a standalone I take the 
original and do some things to it, then copy it to a different folder 
before the build. On the rare occasions I've had trouble before, I 
just quit and restarted. The weird part now is that the problem 
persists after quiting and even after rebooting the computer. It's 
like there's something in a cache file or something. I've even loaded 
up the project in a secondary copy of Rev and get the same problem . . .


It sounds like the stack is opening automatically on launch. If it 
isn't a rev-related stack, then look for a plugin or frontscript that 
opens it, puts it in use, or requests data from it. Any of those 
things will load it into memory. Also, the next time you have it open, 
make sure the destroystack property is set to true.




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revWeb - revlet - examples please

2010-05-22 Thread Richard K. Herz
Do you have web pages with revlets? I would appreciate receiving a link 
to your site.


I plan to present a talk about making interactive simulations with 
revMedia at an on-line learning conference in July. My revlets are 
math-oriented. I would like to provide links, with attribution, to 
revlets that also demonstrate graphics, multimedia, database use, etc. 
So far, I know of Sarah's page and that of Kirk Hagen.


Thanks!
Rich Herz
---
Sarah's revlets
http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Revlets#stacks
Kirk Hagen's revlets
http://lkirkhagen.com/portfolio.htm
My revlets
www.simzlab.com/revlets
Link to talk abstract:
http://www.sloanconsortium.org/et4online/you-can-build-interactive-web-simulations-yourself 



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Re: libURLftpCommand help required please....

2010-05-22 Thread Dave Cragg

On 22 May 2010, at 20:38, Bob Earp wrote:

 
 I'm trying to send an ftp command to a site, and being a neophyte at these 
 things I'm not having much success.  This is what I'm using, what's wrong 
 with it ?
 put libURLftpCommand(LIST,ashford.ca,t...@ashford.ca,myTest) into fld 
 results

Bob, you won't be able to get LIST to work like this. libURLftpCommand sends 
ftp commands through the ftp command connection. But the actual listing data is 
transferred over a separate data connection. This requires opening a separate 
socket after you get a response to the LIST command.

However, you don't need to do that.  A simple get url to a directory on an 
ftp server  actually performs a LIST command for you. So something like this:

put url ftp://myname:mypassw...@my.server.com/images/; into tListData

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Re: (no subject)

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Sneidar

Hi Ruslan.

2 things weigh against your assessment. First, one of the databases is  
remote and it happens to be the one I am querying 1 record at a time.  
The second thing is that to my knowledge you cannot create joins  
between 2 tables in different databases. The source database is a  
local file based SQLite database to further complicate matters.


I want to employ a method that could work with databases of 1000  
records or 1,000,000 records. To do that means I cannot risk memory  
overflow in runrev by huge query results. For this particular  
application I would never hit that limit, but what if I want to take  
the functionality of my data import module and make it available by  
itself?it needs to work in all situations or not at all. That's how I  
think.


My goal here is to import/merge data from a Spiceworks database of  
devices, software and other things. But in the future it could be  
anything. I am learning the limitations of querying remote SQL  
servers. For this application I think a local SQL server would be much  
better, but for the dev phase where I am out and about with my laptop  
on-rev will suffice.


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
Sent from iPhone

On May 21, 2010, at 22:58, Ruslan Zasukhin ruslan_zasuk...@valentina-db.com 
 wrote:



Еexcuse me but this still sounds like a very bad result.
SQL dbs can make joins of thousands records in say .001 sec

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Re: [SQL][On-Rev] Bulk import into PostgreSQL on On-Rev

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Sneidar
Sure but read my recent posts on the limitations of a remote SQL  
server. Not a speed demon by any means. On-rev SQL is really primarily  
intended as a backend database for you web based apps. The way I am  
going at it has shown me that with certain applications I face serious  
limitations using a remote SQL. I should add a disclaimer to my app,  
don't try this at home!


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
Sent from iPhone

On May 22, 2010, at 3:25, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:

I appreciate that for LAN use, a non-profit can use mySQL free  
whilst a

commercial adventure has to pay. I'm just surprised that a commercial
enterprise can save money by moving it's db off a LAN and onto a web  
host

and have someone else pay their mySQL licensing fees

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Re: altAccordion problem

2010-05-22 Thread stephen barncard
have you contacted the author, Chipp Walters?

On 22 May 2010 15:32, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:


 I am having problems with the accordion menu that I created with
 altAccordion. The appearance of my menu has gray headers and the sub
 headers
 have a white background with black fonts on my Mac. When I make
 standalones,
 the menu has the same appearance on my Mac but in Windows XP the green
 background of my card bleeds through my menu changing the gray and white to
 green.

 I read the docs but there is nothing pertaining to the color of the menu
 created with altAccordion. And the Inspector show not show any color
 selected although the menu is gray.

 Anybody have any suggestions on how to fix this problem?
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Re: [OT] Divine Bliss

2010-05-22 Thread Phil Davis

On 23/05/10 4:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

While I wouldn't advocate giving everything else
up, I would advocate getting into RunRev in a big
way; the deeper one digs the more 'gold' one
finds

Amen!

Phil Davis

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Re: codes.widged

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Sneidar
Let all who read this take heed and consider it well. A lot of crap is  
spouted in every arena of communications these days, without one shred  
of real data, study or science to back it up. What we seem to have  
lost, and what we desperately need to regain dear friends, is a love  
for Truth that exceeds our own love of self or self-rightness.


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
Sent from iPhone

On May 22, 2010, at 9:10, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com  
wrote:


When attacks are posted anonymously that should be a warning sign to  
the reader that the material may be suspect.  Earnest writers stand  
behind their words

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Re: Monitor Shell Copy File Progress

2010-05-22 Thread Alex Tweedly
First thought : I thought (according to Dictionary) that shell would 
wait until the command was complete before returning - dictionary says
The current handler pauses until the shell returns its result. If the 
command was successful but did not return anything, the shell function 
returns empty.
Second try :   why take a checksum, why not just use the file size ?  
Getting the checksum may involve copying the file from the remote server 
into your laptop to calculate the checksum.


Third try : instead of doing shell 'cp file '   could you do
   load url (file:  tRemotepathname)
      check the cachedURLs 
   put url(file:  tRemotepathname) into url('file:  tLocalfilename)

-- Alex.

On 22/05/2010 23:35, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Work working on an in-house file manager - RCS for Indesign (since 
Adobe did an end of life for Version Cue)


It's coming along well, in fact really well.

One challenge is that I'm using  lots of these:

  put (mv   quote  gLocalFilePath  quote   quote  
(gLocalProjectPath / tShortFileName)  quote) into tShell

   get shell (tShell)

   put (cp   quote  (gLocalProjectPath / tShortFileName)  
quote   quote  (gServerProjectPath / tShortFileName)  quote) 
into tShell

   get shell (tShell)

to more files around and rename them... it works great.

Is there a way to monitor a background shell process like this?

The problem is if you copy from the Big Server on the LAN... to my 
Little MacBook Pro... you won't know when the file is completely 
copied to the local hard drive before doing:


 launch (gLocalProjectPath /  pFileName) with the 
uInDesignPath of this stack


Typically RunRev will issue the unix cp command and then immediately 
launch inDesign, which crokes because the file is incomplete on the 
local hard drive.


Now I have some ideas about how to do this: get the checksum some of 
the remote file, do a send in 30 ticks (repeatedly) test of the local 
file until the local file's checksum matches the remote file and then 
launch it.


But before I go after this, I was wondering if anyone had any other 
method?  Most cool would be a progress bar, but I'm not sure RunRev 
can monitor a local unix copy file processor, if it can, how to do 
it.


Thanks!
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Re: Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Marty-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 3:51:04 PM, you wrote:

 though! Once you figure these things out it seems so clear!

Yeah - hindsight is a wonderful tool. I wish the IDE had it built in
so I could turn in on *before* I get into trouble.

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Re: altAccordion problem

2010-05-22 Thread charles61

Steve,

I did contact Chipp and sent him a screenshot of my menu but I have not heard 
anything from him.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On May 22, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Stephen Barncard-4 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 have you contacted the author, Chipp Walters? 
 
 On 22 May 2010 15:32, charles61 [hidden email] wrote: 
 
  
  I am having problems with the accordion menu that I created with 
  altAccordion. The appearance of my menu has gray headers and the sub 
  headers 
  have a white background with black fonts on my Mac. When I make 
  standalones, 
  the menu has the same appearance on my Mac but in Windows XP the green 
  background of my card bleeds through my menu changing the gray and white to 
  green. 
  
  I read the docs but there is nothing pertaining to the color of the menu 
  created with altAccordion. And the Inspector show not show any color 
  selected although the menu is gray. 
  
  Anybody have any suggestions on how to fix this problem? 
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Re: Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread Marty Knapp

That's it - a Hindsight plug-in for tRev :)

Marty-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 3:51:04 PM, you wrote:

  

though! Once you figure these things out it seems so clear!



Yeah - hindsight is a wonderful tool. I wish the IDE had it built in
so I could turn in on *before* I get into trouble.

  


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[Datagrid] How to : skip rows appearing, without deleting them in dgData?

2010-05-22 Thread Robert Mann

The point is to be able to navigate through a data-tree structure.

Datagrid doc and runrev how to's show how to implement a foldable row,
that can show more or less information but from the same row.

To navigate within a data tree structure, there is a need to by-pass the
drawing of some lines (not wanted children rows, or not wanted father rows).

Within the layout script of a row, I tried to set the rect row to 0,0,0,0.
This works fine... the line/row disappears. But then... when you navigate
with the arrow in the datagrid, the selected line disappers, while it
hilites the unvisible row... forcing the user to press again the navigation
arrow at that point. So : no good!

Is there a more radical and more efficient way to skip lines without
deleting them from the dgData ?

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Re: Stack in memory problem

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Marty-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 6:02:13 PM, you wrote:

 That's it - a Hindsight plug-in for tRev :)

If you build it they have already come...

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Re: [OT] A Big, Big Thank You to JLG!

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond-

I should mention that I spent literally months on and off trying to
get MetaCard working by fiddling with the bits myself without success.
Then I discovered Jacque's setup stack and in about the same 10
minutes I was up and running. Kudos.

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Re: Monitor Shell Copy File Progress

2010-05-22 Thread Web Admin Himalayan Academy

Aloha, Alex:

Nalla Cintanai (Tamil for good thoughts also the name of a famous book 
in our tradition)


Hmmm, I will have to test that wait for shell completion. I'm not 
seeing that behavior at the moment, it sure seems like the next line 
runs immediately.


 I'll throw in an a put statement dialog immediately and watch.

I think libURL uses the HTTP protocol. I'm thinking AFP will be faster 
and better


Yes, Filesize, Oh, right... checksum is the wrong thing. I  meant to 
parse the detailed files and use that.




On 5/22/10 2:26 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
First thought : I thought (according to Dictionary) that shell would 
wait until the command was complete before returning - dictionary says
The current handler pauses until the shell returns its result. If the 
command was successful but did not return anything, the shell 
function returns empty.
Second try :   why take a checksum, why not just use the file size ?  
Getting the checksum may involve copying the file from the remote 
server into your laptop to calculate the checksum.


Third try : instead of doing shell 'cp file '   could you do
   load url (file:  tRemotepathname)
      check the cachedURLs 
   put url(file:  tRemotepathname) into url('file:  tLocalfilename)

-- Alex.

On 22/05/2010 23:35, Sivakatirswami wrote:

I'm using  lots of these:

   put (cp   quote  (gLocalProjectPath / tShortFileName)  
quote   quote  (gServerProjectPath / tShortFileName)  
quote) into tShell

   get shell (tShell)

to more files around

Is there a way to monitor a background shell process like this?

The problem is if you copy from the Big Server on the LAN... to my 
Little MacBook Pro... you won't know when the file is completely 
copied to the local hard drive before doing:


 launch (gLocalProjectPath /  pFileName) with the 
uInDesignPath of this stack


Typically RunRev will issue the unix cp command and then immediately 
launch inDesign, which crokes because the file is incomplete on the 
local hard drive. 


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Re: Remote SQL databases

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark-

Friday, May 21, 2010, 5:04:57 PM, you wrote:

 SELECT cus.Customer_Number, cus.Customer_Name, ctyp.Customer_Type_Name
 FROM database1.customers AS cus LEFT OUTER JOIN
 database2.customer_types as ctyp ON cus.Customer_Type =
 ctyp.Customer_Type_ID

Nice one - someone actually found a use for an outer join. I've
wracked my brain trying to come up with a situation where I'd want to
use one, and never come up with anything.

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[ANN] Data Grid Helper - Column Builder Tool is in construction

2010-05-22 Thread zryip theSlug
Dear List,

We added new features in the Data Grid Helper:
- new dialogs to edit margins and styles
- a new tool to give free time with the manipulation of columns,
templates and behaviors: The Column Builder

The project still in development, so all is not perfect, but we have
new screenshots and a new video for you to let you know how this new
tool perfoms:

http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=74:data-grid-helpercatid=41:tools-for-revolutionItemid=64


Best regards,
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Re: Monitor Shell Copy File Progress

2010-05-22 Thread Phil Davis
I bet you could use cURL for this, using the FILE protocol. Build your 
curl command line with filenames formatted for curl; open it as a 
process for read; read that process's output every 500 msecs or so to 
get the progress info.


I'm on assignment in NZ right now so I don't have everything at my 
fingertips. Josh Mellicker made me aware of curl a few months ago, and 
Ken Ray may have made a rev library of it by now.  ;-)  Also Mark Smith 
created a rev curl lib some time ago.


Food for thought...

Phil Davis



On 23/05/10 12:26 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
First thought : I thought (according to Dictionary) that shell would 
wait until the command was complete before returning - dictionary says
The current handler pauses until the shell returns its result. If the 
command was successful but did not return anything, the shell 
function returns empty.
Second try :   why take a checksum, why not just use the file size ?  
Getting the checksum may involve copying the file from the remote 
server into your laptop to calculate the checksum.


Third try : instead of doing shell 'cp file '   could you do
   load url (file:  tRemotepathname)
      check the cachedURLs 
   put url(file:  tRemotepathname) into url('file:  tLocalfilename)

-- Alex.

On 22/05/2010 23:35, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Work working on an in-house file manager - RCS for Indesign (since 
Adobe did an end of life for Version Cue)


It's coming along well, in fact really well.

One challenge is that I'm using  lots of these:

  put (mv   quote  gLocalFilePath  quote   quote  
(gLocalProjectPath / tShortFileName)  quote) into tShell

   get shell (tShell)

   put (cp   quote  (gLocalProjectPath / tShortFileName)  
quote   quote  (gServerProjectPath / tShortFileName)  
quote) into tShell

   get shell (tShell)

to more files around and rename them... it works great.

Is there a way to monitor a background shell process like this?

The problem is if you copy from the Big Server on the LAN... to my 
Little MacBook Pro... you won't know when the file is completely 
copied to the local hard drive before doing:


 launch (gLocalProjectPath /  pFileName) with the 
uInDesignPath of this stack


Typically RunRev will issue the unix cp command and then immediately 
launch inDesign, which crokes because the file is incomplete on the 
local hard drive.


Now I have some ideas about how to do this: get the checksum some of 
the remote file, do a send in 30 ticks (repeatedly) test of the local 
file until the local file's checksum matches the remote file and then 
launch it.


But before I go after this, I was wondering if anyone had any other 
method?  Most cool would be a progress bar, but I'm not sure RunRev 
can monitor a local unix copy file processor, if it can, how to 
do it.


Thanks!
Sivakatirswami


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Re: Apad - The Andriod iPad

2010-05-22 Thread Colin Holgate
There are a number of things you might want to worry about:

The resolution is the same as the 4 inch Android phones.

The screen is two inches smaller than the iPad.

The CPU is 1/2-1/3 of the speed of other Android devices. It's perhaps close to 
the speed of an iPhone 3GS, but it has 2.5 times the number of pixels to drive.

Its screen is resistive instead of the better capacitive touch, you may need to 
press harder to make things work.

The battery capacity is 1/8th that of the iPad.

The memory of the cheapest one is most likely 1/8th of the memory in the lowest 
end iPad.

It comes with the 1.5 version of Android, which is not uncommon, but some 
features (such as Flash player 10.1) will need version 2.1. I'm not so 
confident that the device will be first in line to get OS updates.

It is quite likely to have the typical number of touch points for low 
resolution Android devices, which means two at a time. iPad can be ten at a 
time.



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Re: Apad - The Andriod iPad

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 7:35:58 PM, you wrote:

 There are a number of things you might want to worry about:

The one I'd worry about is Sorry, we don't accept Paypal, we accept
credit card payment via Moneybookers. I'm holding out for more news
on the eeePad myself.

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Re: Apad - The Andriod iPad

2010-05-22 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:
 Colin-

 Saturday, May 22, 2010, 7:35:58 PM, you wrote:

 There are a number of things you might want to worry about:

 The one I'd worry about is Sorry, we don't accept Paypal, we accept
 credit card payment via Moneybookers. I'm holding out for more news
 on the eeePad myself.

 --
 -Mark Wieder
 mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Mark - What's an eeePad? Is it like the eeePC (I have one)? Or is it
another Android device? I definitely want an Android device since that is
where revMobile is going.

Colin - I am not interested in the iPad. Not right now anyway. I appreciate
the tech-spec comparison, but I just need something just good enough to
test Android apps. I do like the look of the iPad, and that is why I
mention the Apad. Because of the similar appearance, it will probably be
very popular with lower income consumers. Therefore Android market share
will increase even more, and that increases the success ratio for revMobile
developers. Even lower income consumers will buy a killer app for 99 cents.

~Roger Eller

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Re: Apad - The Andriod iPad

2010-05-22 Thread stephen barncard
I would worry about this paragraph - they seem to be on the edge of the law.

I sense Hong Kong here.

 Do i have to pay custom taxes and duties?
No, you don't have
to. We will mark the Apad as gift at very low value so that  you can avoid
paying custom taxes and duties.

On 22 May 2010 19:45, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Colin-

 Saturday, May 22, 2010, 7:35:58 PM, you wrote:

  There are a number of things you might want to worry about:

 The one I'd worry about is Sorry, we don't accept Paypal, we accept
 credit card payment via Moneybookers. I'm holding out for more news
 on the eeePad myself.

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Back home in SF
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Re: Apad - The Andriod iPad

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Roger-

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 8:04:48 PM, you wrote:

 Mark - What's an eeePad? Is it like the eeePC (I have one)? Or is it
 another Android device? I definitely want an Android device since that is
 where revMobile is going.

Nothing's definite about the eeePad yet, I've seen some conflicting
stories about it, and nothing's been officially announced, but
there's a good bet that it'll be an Android device.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100423PD207.html
http://www.gadgetvenue.com/asus-eeepad-launch-july-04235635/

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Re: Apad - The Andriod iPad

2010-05-22 Thread Roger . E . Eller
stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:
 I would worry about this paragraph - they seem to be on the edge of the
law.

 I sense Hong Kong here.

  Do i have to pay custom taxes and duties?
  No, you don't have to. We will mark the Apad as gift at very low value
 so that  you can avoid paying custom taxes and duties.

I noticed that one in the FAQ too.  This is only one of several suppliers
of the device. This is the only one I have seen that makes that statement.
It may be a more common practice than we know, just without saying it.

~Roger Eller


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Re: How to Dial Using Rev ?

2010-05-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

gary_aitcheson wrote:


   put *67 before theNumber
   open file com3: for write
   write ATS7=1L0DT  theNumber  cr to file com3:
   wait 5 secs
   close file com3:

I do not understand much of this, but it appears that it's usual 
function is to dial a fax machine in order to transmit letters etc.


I'm not sure what it's dialing, but what the script does is this, line 
by line:


prefix the phone number with *67
open a connection to the com3 port on the PC, which is a serial port 
where presumably a modem is attached
send the phone number digits and an end-of-line carriage return through 
the serial port to the modem

wait a bit for the modem to get the data and start dialing
close the connection to the port



My problem is that I want to use this dialing program on my iMac running 
OS X but unfortunately it does not function there.  I imagine the 
dialing code is similar, but figuring it out is beyond my expertise. 
Does anyone have any suggestions at to what to do, where to look, who to 
ask, etc ?


The equivalent on a Mac would be identical, except instead of com3 
you'd want to use modem as the port specifier. Both the PC com3 port 
and the Mac modem port are serial ports. Rev can write to those just 
fine, but the problem you will find on your iMac is that it won't have 
any serial ports; Macs haven't supported those for some years, nor do 
they ship any longer with internal modems. You can buy USB modems, but 
unfortunately Rev can't read or write to USB ports.


So if you have an older Mac that has a real serial modem port, you can 
dial with the above script by substituting modem for the port. But on 
your iMac, no go.


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Re: How to Dial Using Rev ?

2010-05-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

dunb...@aol.com wrote:

But I only replied to say that I thought all HC commands were supported in 
Rev to the extent that they at least did nothing. But there is no dial in 
the dictionary. Are there others?


Maybe, but I can't think of any offhand. I've never done a direct 
comparison though. If you get bored, you could. :)


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